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Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by lazarusokafor90(m): 8:33am On Oct 06, 2019 |
GREATESTPIANIST:You know that when you keep saying that you sound like a broken record. |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by GREATESTPIANIST: 8:35am On Oct 06, 2019 |
lazarusokafor90:GET THEE BEHIND ME SATAN |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by gnykelly(m): 8:36am On Oct 06, 2019 |
GREATESTPIANIST: Amen |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by lazarusokafor90(m): 8:37am On Oct 06, 2019 |
GREATESTPIANIST:Hahahaha you are very funny. |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by GREATESTPIANIST: 8:38am On Oct 06, 2019 |
lazarusokafor90:, |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by TUANKU(m): 8:44am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Michaelcas: There are millions of planets yes, no one said earth is the only planet with life on it if you read well. What he said was what about the others with no life? Now go and rant elsewhere kid. 1 Like |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by helinues: 8:51am On Oct 06, 2019 |
sagieramos: I replied |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by Xclusiveme: 8:57am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Uyi168:Go and cement fish. Bewildered soul 1 Like |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by ecclize: 9:22am On Oct 06, 2019 |
gnykelly:and it is God that caused it? |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by Finallydead: 9:34am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Before I begin, I would like us all to acknowledge that we only know in part and prophesy in part(1Cor 13:9-11) ( I included) and our ignorance does not in any way discredit God but only reveals that we are not God(omniscient), so in trying to reveal the knowledge of God let us never think that whatever we have seen is all there is to it. Now @OP, u made a few valid points by saying that we see God clearly only in Jesus Christ over any other divine inspiration but don't forget we only see Jesus Christ in the measure of His revelation in us that we have. So we understand Jesus (including the partial exposé given in scriptures about him) only according to this measure. A good scripture that could give light concerning the subject is that u mentioned, about The Lord stopping the wind and the waves (the storm) on more than one occasion. If God stopped the storm, then He didn't initiate it. So obviously God is not behind every natural disaster. What then is behind natural disasters? The challenge humanity has in these issues is that we have limited the scope of science to only the physical universe and excluded the metaphysical. We know that we have a tangible body that we can experiment with in the lab but should we then deny the real emotions we feel which are intangible or our thoughts we think which are intangible. So there are metaphysical realities then with physical effects. Likewise, as we have learnt to cooperate with physical laws (which God set), mankind must also learn to cooperate with metaphysical laws (by obeying Gods laws guiding our character). We don't blame God when someone touches a high tension wire and gets electrocuted to death, it's just messing with physical laws that caused that, right? And if you bounce a hard ball off a wall and it bounces back to hit your head, you don't blame God, no, it's just physical laws ("Action and reaction". Likewise natural disasters are only a reaction of nature to our breaking metaphysical laws which govern it even though we refuse to acknowledge that. When Abel killed Cain unjustly the earth drank innocent blood and immediately reacted but only God heard it because it's reaction was infinitesimal, however with more innocent blood going into the earth (through murders e.t.c.) and all other perversions perpetrated by men, we have reactions on a magnified scale causing earthquakes, tsunamis e.t.c. and the sacrifice of Jesus Christ cannot stop this without first dealing with the sin in men which makes them break the laws thereby preventing their sin and hence the effects (including some natural disasters). Note also that some natural disasters are caused by spiritual beings according to the degree of Liberty men consciously or unconsciously give them. In the book of Job for instance we see that when Satan afflicted Job, he caused hailstones to consume his property (Job 1:16) and as the habit of men is, they attributed it to God. Today as men interact with some of these beings for some selfish interests, they likewise give them certain levels of Liberty which could lead to some disasters and other evils we see on the earth. And God also at the time of his wrath spoken of in revelation, will bring certain natural disasters on the earth which will be side effects of restoring equilibrium to his universe which has been altered by sins of men. I'll have to stop here for now, will return soon. |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by sagieramos(m): 9:42am On Oct 06, 2019 |
helinues: I just sent you a reply |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by Finallydead: 9:44am On Oct 06, 2019 |
TUANKU:Sorry bro, ain't deep at all, rather myopic, whoever said God was punishing anyone, whoever said there's no life on other planets just cause we haven't scientifically detected it, whoever said our actions here on earth don't affect other planets? |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by Finallydead: 9:46am On Oct 06, 2019 |
jarrot:Bro, whoever said God was punishing anyone, whoever said there's no life on other planets just cause we haven't scientifically detected it, whoever said our actions here on earth don't affect other planets |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by anyicosta: 9:47am On Oct 06, 2019 |
[color=#990000][/color]yes.dat is even d jugdement day d bible is talkin about(because it is unpredictable).but so many sinner r waiting 4 jesus to come down frm d sky.generation wil com n go but d earth stil d same |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by TUANKU(m): 9:50am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Finallydead: You totally lost it. |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by aksule(m): 10:30am On Oct 06, 2019 |
What l found disturbing is attributing what clearly was a human mistakes or doing to our merciful God. God or Allah did not create airplane nor motor vehicles nor guns or even nuclear weapons, but when human beings decided to test their capabilities and met with disastrous results while flouting the laws and regulations governing it's own creations, we religiously attributed it to God. |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by Ihedinobi3: 10:33am On Oct 06, 2019 |
unstoppable51:Hello. This is an unfortunate thing to read. There is much falsehood in the Church, but it is always particularly difficult to read people blatantly deny that the Bible says what they themselves quote it to say. It is even worse to read someone claim that parts of the Bible may be uninspired (re: "not everything they said and wrote down can be said to have directly come from God, word for word"). Suffice to say that there is nothing to be done for anyone who presumes to put words in God's Mouth. What God has said He has said. If we are not content with it, well then, we will soon find ourselves allotted a portion with His enemies (Matthew 25:24-30). |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by Finallydead: 10:39am On Oct 06, 2019 |
TUANKU:Newton must have lost "it" too when he proposed the law of the universe that "every object exerts a gravitational force on every other object in the universe". That's as true as that our actions on this earth affect every other planet both physically and metaphysically |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by gnykelly(m): 10:51am On Oct 06, 2019 |
ecclize:Yes God created both good and evil and uses it at will |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by Marvyx(m): 10:53am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Uyi168:He gave us His thoughts already bro in the Scriptures. While we yet sinners, He died for us. Why don't you try giving yourself to knowing God? If He is a scam, you can abort mission. But I can assure you, He's not. Some of us used to be the most logical beings even if we were born in a Christian family, until we encountered God for ourselves and not the 'general being' religious people propose. If you seek Him with your heart to know Him, you'll find Him I assure you. Give Jesus a chance man. Shalom. |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by ecclize: 10:57am On Oct 06, 2019 |
gnykelly:
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Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by gentiles98: 11:18am On Oct 06, 2019 |
To many minds, the origin of sin and the reason for its existence are a source of great perplexity. They see the work of evil, with its terrible results of woe and desolation, and they question how all this can exist under the sovereignty of One who is infinite in wisdom, in power, and in love. Here is a mystery, of which they find no explanation. And in their uncertainty and doubt, they are blinded to truths plainly revealed in God's Word, and essential to salvation. There are those who, in their inquiries concerning the existence of sin, endeavor to search into that which God has never revealed; hence they find no solution of their difficulties; and such as are actuated by a disposition to doubt and cavil, seize upon this as an excuse for rejecting the words of Holy Writ. Others, however, fail of a satisfactory understanding of the great problem of evil, from the fact that tradition and misinterpretation have obscured the teaching of the Bible concerning the character of God, the nature of his government, and the principles of his dealing with sin. It is impossible to so explain the origin of sin as to give a reason for its existence. Yet enough may be understood concerning both the origin and the final disposition of sin, to fully make manifest the justice and benevolence of God in all his dealings with evil. Nothing is more plainly taught in Scripture than that God was in nowise responsible for the entrance of sin; that there was no arbitrary withdrawal of divine grace, no deficiency in the divine government, that gave occasion for the uprising of rebellion. Sin is an intruder, for whose presence no reason can be given. It is mysterious, unaccountable; to excuse it, is to defend it. Could excuse for it be found, or cause be shown for its existence, it would cease to be sin. Our only definition of sin is that given in the Word of God; it is “the transgression of the law;” it is the outworking of a principle at war with the great law of love which is the foundation of the divine government. 1 Like |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by gentiles98: 11:20am On Oct 06, 2019 |
But there was one that chose to pervert this freedom. Sin originated with him, who, next to Christ, had been most honored of God, and who stood highest in power and glory among the inhabitants of Heaven. Before his fall, Lucifer was first of the covering cherubs, holy and undefiled. “Thus saith the Lord God: Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering.” “Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so; thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.” [Ezekiel 28:12-15, 17.] Lucifer might have remained in favor with God, beloved and honored by all the angelic host, exercising his noble powers to bless others and to glorify his Maker. But, says the prophet, “Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness.” [Ezekiel 28:12-15, 17.] Little by little, Lucifer came to indulge a desire for self-exaltation. “Thou hast set thine heart as the heart of God.” “Thou hast said: . . . I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation.” “I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the Most High.” [Ezekiel 28:6; Isaiah 14:13, 14.] Instead of seeking to make God supreme in the affections and allegiance of his creatures, it was Lucifer's endeavor to win their service and homage to himself. And, coveting the honor which the infinite Father had bestowed upon his Son, this prince of angels aspired to power which it was the prerogative of Christ alone to wield. |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by follock007(m): 11:44am On Oct 06, 2019 |
the first natural disaster happened during the time oh Noah (10th from Adam). 10 is Pluto but is divided into 1-8-1 (H20-Water), the 8 represent Uranus the golden heart whose price value is meant to always go higher when the Masses (Mars - the good Samaritan who saves a DYING MAN) sings his praises... The dying man inside of the Masses is Neptune inside Mars, therefore Mars is a freezer while Neptune is a dead meat that needs preservation... The Moon represent the government, God or Saturn the record keeper or withdrawal of Karmic depths with the 11 (two hands/two opposition parties/right and wrong choices) in 1-8-1. Hence 1+1+5=7(Saturn-Certain).... When the value of Uranus-Gold dwindles, it is because the Mars (Mars) is not preserving Human life (Neptune 9 or 6-3, body & soul respectively), that is when rain (Pluto 1-8-1, H2O) drops on Mars and Scorpion (Mars/Pluto) is born (valuable item has been thrown to the dogs). There you have your natural disaster. Benin pidgin lingo calls it falling hand because Saturn's (God,Government,Elite)hands is a part of the rain (Pluto).... People may loose things in this drama to reset nature or go back to the drawing table Ever heard of the word, "hungry in the midst of water"? that's referring to Mars... Mars is a combination of 1+3 and the dying man 9, that is 1+9+3 = 10+3... all equals to 4..... 10 contains what Donald Trump recently calls "The Big Cut" or what we call our share of the national cake in politics... This is why Jesus said in the days of Noah they where eating and drinking and building and marrying wives... but this hunger exceeded that it draw the other cut that is persevered for Saturn... Saturn is the ruling planet of January and all the leftovers (reserve) of the previous year go to January |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by ABOVEDELAW: 12:22pm On Oct 06, 2019 |
NATURAL DISASTERS AFFECT BOTH THE WICKED AND THE SO CALLED RIGHTEOUS. GREATESTPIANIST: |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by tunary(m): 12:49pm On Oct 06, 2019 |
hmm |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by nextstep(m): 2:14pm On Oct 06, 2019 |
What we call "Natural disasters" (floods, no rain, hurricanes, earthquakes, asteroid impacts, volcanoes, etc) happened on this planet way before humans showed up. There are no humans on Io (moon of Jupiter) but it's very volcanic. There are no humans on Jupiter, yet it has a HUGE, continuous thunderstorm the size of Earth (Great Red Spot, 350 years and still storming). Jupiter was also hit by massive asteroids in 1994 (Comet Shoemaker-Levi). There are recurring quakes on Mercury that produce huge fissures. All these things would kill 10s of thousands of humans were they inhabited. Should we also assume these events are punishments for non-existent humans in those places? Not to talk of billions of stars and planets in our galaxy alone (of which there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe). These events will continue to happen when the human race is no longer. Earth itself is doomed to be overheated and swallowed by the Sun as the Sun loses the mass it needs to keep the gas together (see Solar death). We have gas giants and supernovae that detail the spectacular demise of stars all over the universe. Our star is not special; neither is our planet; and for the record, neither is our species. 1 Like |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by Jahskid24(m): 3:43pm On Oct 06, 2019 |
never let this escape ur notice: natural disasters are mainly the end products of man's scientific and technological exploits. men have completely succeeded in ruining the earth. |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by tunary(m): 3:45pm On Oct 06, 2019 |
Interesting question with no definite answer. |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by orisa37: 4:28pm On Oct 06, 2019 |
Let us know that they're The Manufacturer's Way of chiselling out the roughness of this world. |
Re: Are Natural Disasters God's Way Of Punishing The World For Sin? by Image123(m): 4:50pm On Oct 06, 2019 |
OP is wrong. The devil doesn't cause natural disasters too. |
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