immhotep:

Long live hammerT and IPOB.

LZAA:

So you just want igbo domination
It's settled

gidgiddy:
Doesnt matter who produces the president, it wont help the common man on the street. All the presidents Nigeria has produced since 1960, where is Nigeria today? I have nothing against my fellow Igbo becoming president but I know that it wont help us same it didn't help all those who had it in the past.

The Igbo nation should be striving for it's own separate country or at the barest minimum, it's own autonomous Region where they control and manage their affairs

This is what is important, not the useless office of president that had helped nobody

MrHyde:

Why is this? Does this not justify the agitation due to marginalization?

MetaPhysical:


Each ethnic group has its list of grievances on that aspect.

Here are few of Yorubas. Everything in Yorubaland is about orderliness and authority. This is how we maintain expectations in behaviorals and manneisms. In every Yoruba domain and institution there will always be a heirarchy and a mandate. Those who fail to comply are viewed as anti-culture....disorderly and disharmonious.

1. Market and Iyaloja issue.
There is a authority, an heirarchy and a mandate.

Igbos in Yorubaland rebel against it. They will setup a parallel authority to circumvent the Iyaloja Council.


2. Sacred days with curfew, whether in observation of deity worship or the mourning of a passing monarch.
There is a authority and a mandate.

Igbos dont respect it and repeatedly violate the order....some even calling it archaic, not recognising that Sunday is set aside for exactly same reason and they do not fail to observe it in their life....with good spirit.

3. Yoruba Oba is the sole authority in his domain, no competition.
These dynasties are older than the German dynastic thrones....the oldest and root of all present monarchies in Europe. Yoruba dynasties have authority that surpasses the authority of the Nigerian President or its constitution.

Igbos dont respect Yoruba monarchies and its institutions. They appoint Ezes who hold themselves as absolute power and even will challenge an Oba's authority. Example - Isolo, Akure, Lagos.

Its a long list...

Binikingdowm:
Igbo man as president? After insulting my tribe, insult our king and elders, laugh at us and you expect me to cast my vote?

MetaPhysical:
If PDP thought it could win a National election with Igbo as its flag bearer it would long ago have put an Igbo man forward. APC does not believe so either, judging by the hatred for it in Igboland. These two parties hold influence to address Igbo aspiration.

Over the years, and even as recent as this week evident in Abaribe's speech infront of his brothers in US, Igbo continues to tell the rest of the country that the development of Nigeria is its credit. The Igbo ambition and rush for recognition is an anti-culture that turn others off and without exception every other ethnic group, major or minor, remote or next door are irritated by Igbo's disruption and disrespect. There is fear that what Igbo represent locally in every community it is in will be multiplied and magnified many fold when the reins of national power is given to them.

Igbo wants Presidency, but Igbo is not ready to act and behave Presidential. There is a hurdle Igbo must first cross before it should ask for Presidency. Before you ask others to do what you want first do what they have asked of you for decades and you ignore, with pride.

Other ethnic groups have asked you continously for decades that regardless of what Nigerian Constitution says about citizenship each land is a sacred ground with its dos and donts and you should not desecrate their culture, their land and their people. When are you going to do what they've asked of you? This is at the root of why many of your neighbours and those who are not your neighbors reject you as a choice to this point.

DeHitMan450:

My friend,what maginalisation do you mean?Nobody stops the south east from presenting a candidate in an election.You people boast of being economically competitive,so Nigerians are saying that you people should also be politically competitive,is that TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR?

LabDNA:
Igbos in APC must start asserting themselves and start gearing up to contest the presidential ticket in that party.

Ohaneze should stop fooling themselves start creating awareness. Buy up airtime on TV, radio, billboards and start selling the SE presidency project.

Before 2011, AIT, Raypower, guardian l, Silverbird drummed up support for SS. I remember travelling on ore and saw a billboard saying
'Sw done get presidency, North done get presidency, SS never get even though na dem dey lay eggs for Nigeria'
The campaign was everywhere. Ohaneze should go back and learn.
Call a meeting with all Eastern-owned and Eastern-friendly media outlets, engage them a start a compelling campaign. Forget the naysayers and just do it.

Vanguard, Arise TV, Authority, Sun news, AIT, daily independent, Silverbird etc, all have the ears of Nigerians.
Call these people together, engage them and start the compelling compelling campaign to ready the minds of the country for an Eastern presidency.

Leadership is not wearing Ishiagu and redcaps all over the place and claiming to represent a people, yet you can't proffer solutions to their problems.

DeHitMan450:

My friend,what maginalisation do you mean?Nobody stops the south east from presenting a candidate in an election.You people boast of being economically competitive,so Nigerians are saying that you people should also be politically competitive,is that TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR?

MetaPhysical:


I can tell an Igbo in twitter just by words and phrases, dont need to see name or picture.

"Domination"
"Supreme"
"Storm"
"Fearless"

godox2:

No party hates any section of the country. When politicians were busy forming APC, the Igbos hates the party with passion, they avoided the party like ebola. They label the party islamic party, they call Rochas, Keneth Okwonkwo, Fr Mbaka and others names. Now Igbo want to be President, under which party? APC is not ready to loose 2023, and giving its ticket to Igbo is sucidal. In PDPs 16 years of leadership igbo man did not smell vice president not to talk of president. Do you think PDP will gamble? No! If care is not taken the next president will come from the North, if Tinubu refused to support Osinbajo or Fayemi. As for Igbo presidency may be 2031 or 2039 that is if they learnt not to put their eggs in one basket and eschew politics of hatred. Kingsley Moghalu of YPP would have make a good president but the party is still infant.

MrHyde:
I just read the Vatsa's statement, Igbo Presidency being a right and not a privilege and it got me thinking on the possibilities and strategies;
Well I align with vatsa on this. For a 2023 igbo presidency, I believe consultations and strategies have to start in earnest; personally I think Peter Obi, Orji Uzor Kalu, Rochas Okorocha are candidates with a winning chance. I also believe the Igbo nation will have to put up a United front and form alliances with other geo political regions.
Kindly share your thoughts.

MetaPhysical:


The class of Igbos eligible for Presidency have voiced their preference. They choosed ONE NIGERIA over Biafra. Those clamoring for Biafra are ineligible for the Presidency anyway....and their voice is not the Igbo mainstream.

Once your mainstream want Biafra Metaphysical will become an Nwafor and paint my car in Biafran colors.

GMbuharii:



CHOOSED!!!!!

OJIGBIJIGBIJIGBI!!!!!!! CHOOSED Kwa!!!

What a model nepa bill degree holder!!!

What a gargantuan illiterate!!!!
BAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAA....


lzaa helinues bastardmod adaibeku greenback

GMbuharii:



CHOOSED!!!!!

OJIGBIJIGBIJIGBI!!!!!!! CHOOSED Kwa!!!

What a model nepa bill degree holder!!!

What a gargantuan illiterate!!!!
BAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAA....


lzaa immhotep bastardmod adaibeku greenback

immhotep:

Metaphysical was inspired by the Daura dvllard

Kpoikpoi:
Why do we always talk about Igbo presidency?
How come nobody is talking about Ibibio presidency?
We the Ibibios are now the biggest producers of oil in Nigeria but we have never ruled this country.
What do Igbos contribute to Nigeria?
Nonsense.

MrHyde:

Ok,I have a better understanding, but you will agree with me that if it's not written it is not binding, why don't the west promulgate laws that make such contrary acts illegal, making it clear and sustainable.

MetaPhysical:



Dr Lugard,
We are all infected, are we not?

MetaPhysical:


Our people dont need laws to follow authority or comply with the mandates. Why should we make laws for foreigners to bring them into compliance? Thats a dangerous territory. If we enact codes to make non compliance an offense for foreigners, guess what else we will be making law to do? ...we could use the law to target and profile them for discriminatory practices.....and that will really be opposite of our love for diversity. Not good!

MrHyde:


Truth is without laws, we cannot hold people accountable, and the laws cannot be targeted towards certain tribes or religion, it should bind all. We can't assume that people will align to unwritten laws (traditional laws) of the land.

GMbuharii:


Sifia pains lolsssssss...


Auto correct turned or to it. Now tell us how auto correct turned CHOSE/CHOSEN to CHOOSED!!!!!

What a gargantuan illiterate!!!!

Lzaa immhotep bastardmod adaibeku greenback

MetaPhysical:


Military exercises is my focus, not your misspellings, even though that is inexcusable as well if you are to police grammatical errors on web.

It should be military exercise in that context. The exercise is same, the template is uniform....it is SINGULAR!....the name changes in different locality. So it cannot be "exercises"....but military exercise in the manner you composed it.

The use of "Military exercises" would have to be contextualized and written in a different sense, not in the manner your's was written.

Olodo, trying to be smarter than Lugard but turned out to be Jonathan.

MetaPhysical:


Customary laws do exist. The problem with Yoruba is our mainstreaming of knowledge flow is no longer native....Western ideals and philosophies have taken priority in our social orgarnization and we seek solutions in constitutional and civil law for challenges that truly need customary and native sense to address. All the issues of culture and traditional Yoruba social structure, its customs and rituals are addressed already in Customary Laws. We pushed it to back burner....we dont even have police trained in its enforcement to begin with. This is why people behave any kind of way and get away with a lot of crimes and offenses that go against the ethos of Yorubaland.

Mr Hyde, lets not derail thread. Return to thread focus. Open new topic if you want discuss Yoruba.

MrHyde:


So the problem is not the foreigners, it is the non enforcement of already laid down laws that has caused the breach, you see the ball comes back to the host.
We haven't derailed the thread, we are only exploring reasons other tribes won't push an Igbo Presidency in 2023.
In my honest opinion, I believe the Igbo nation have a lot of work to do if they really want to actualize this dream and not just pay lip service.