Chibuzoc:


How

one of the reason you've senators and house of reps is to tame any breach of constitution or the executive overriding the federal character not all these noise people make online here


since Abaribe have been elected/appointed as minority leader he always support the motion without questioning just because he had a case with federal govt and he's trying to play safe.


make noise till tomorrow, citizens cries don't bother that mallam in Asorock

calyto:

You're still not making sense.

Check federal character and quota system in the constitution and tell me where it was indicated that every cadre of the military/paramilitary MUST have equal representation based on region and when a particular region doesn't have officers of that cadre, a junior officer from the affected region should be promoted to that cadre unconditionally.

Please how old are you sef?

solomons wisdom has nothing to do with methuselahs age

is it not when u refuse to promote people that they become junior officers?
higher military officers require more academics than other things because they are the ones that will do the map reading, weather reading,bring in attack strategies etc - have u ever asked urself why we have not been able to defeat boko haram. if the right things are done like merit based promotions - the sky will be our starting point
so u mean the igbos are not that educated to be promoted ?
do they have academic deficiency or what?


wasnt the older yar' adua double promoted to meet up political expediency?
but pls , can u give me the reason why igbo officers are not promoted? as in, what are they lacking?

Sweeetheart:




nonsense. what's the effect of federal character in the common lives of average Nigerians?


you're only crying for the middle rich people who give no damn about you. there are many way of expressing your displeasure against breach of constitution without wailing and ranting

Even amongst middle class there should be equality and fairness.

Sweeetheart:



one of the reason you've senators and house of reps is to tame any breach of constitution or the executive overriding the federal character not all these noise people make online here


since Abaribe have been elected/appointed as minority leader he always support the motion without questioning just because he had a case with federal govt and he's trying to play safe.


make noise till tomorrow, citizens cries don't bother that mallam in Asorock

Well said, In all honesty what you wrote, is it possible in nigeria Just be honest. If your senators are concerned I doubt nigeria will be world poverty capital

Chibuzoc:


Lies while the Biafrans were fighting for freedom the Hausa/Fulani and the Yoruba were busy designing this hell called nigeria.

which freedom Biafra dey fight for abi selfish interest. Isaac Adaka Boro began the struggle for the emancipation of the Niger Delta, but was condemned by Aguiyi Ironsi so wat are u saying d structure of dis country waz in d hands of the Igbos due to nepotism they render themselves useless

South-East already has several CPs in Biafra Security Services.

You're truly not making sense.

Who on earth told you that junior officers are not promoted let alone, Igbo junior officers?
I think your thought pattern have been beclouded with hate to an extent that you don't even realize that you're contradicting yourself.
It was you that said quota system of federal character, the Igbos should be equally represented even if they don't have enough officers in that cadre.
It is you again that is talking about 'Merit based promotions'.

You see these kind of malicious falsehood that you cannot prove beyond whatsapp group discussions from your kind is why Senators are proposing the 'Social Media Bill'.

You don't know anything, but you don't know that you don't know so you are confidently discussing topics that you have no idea about

bigfish3k:

solomons wisdom has nothing to do with methuselahs age

is it not when u refuse to promote people that they become junior officers?
higher military officers require more academics than other things because they are the ones that will do the map reading, weather reading,bring in attack strategies etc - have u ever asked urself why we have not been able to defeat boko haram. if the right things are done like merit based promotions - the sky will be our starting point
so u mean the igbos are not that educated to be promoted ?
do they have academic deficiency or what?


wasnt the older yar' adua double promoted to meet up political expediency?
but pls , can u give me the reason why igbo officers are not promoted? as in, what are they lacking?

GermanPoison:
which freedom Biafra dey fight for abi selfish interest. Isaac Adaka Boro began the struggle for the emancipation of the Niger Delta, but was condemned by Aguiyi Ironsi so wat are u saying d structure of dis country waz in d hands of the Igbos due to nepotism they render themselves useless

Which one is selfish interest Why was Biafra declared Who were killing who even before the coup

Compare when the British industries were in the hands of Igbos and now that it's in the hands of hausa/Fulani/Yoruba

What you call nepotism was based on merit then not now that we have affidavit holders

calyto:
You're truly not making sense.

Who on earth told you that junior officers are not promoted let alone, Igbo junior officers?
I think your thought pattern have been beclouded with hate to an extent that you don't even realize that you're contradicting yourself.
It was you that said quota system of federal character, the Igbos should be equally represented even if they don't have enough officers in that cadre.
It is you again that is talking about 'Merit based promotions'.

You see these kind of malicious falsehood that you cannot prove beyond whatsapp group discussions from your kind is why Senators are proposing the 'Social Media Bill'.

You don't know anything, but you don't know that you don't know so you are confidently discussing topics that you have no idea about

yes, i deliberately mentioned both "merit based and/or political patronage" because i know that whichever way u swing the pendulum - igbos are qualified
i need u to proof me wrong with facts and higher reasoning and stop using abusive words as if u are right
mind you, i never told u junior officers are not promoted
i told u that the effect of not promoting igbo junior officers is the reason we are not having "ogas at the top" - its a ripple effect
ur comprehension skill is zero

itsme01:




Ndi Marginalisation at it again

perhaps the IGP doesnt trust Ndi invicticus and Ndi Onyeama

when Professor ben nwabueze and Gen Aguiyi Ironsi where busy destroying regional government constituition and writting the unitary one they where happy and smiling, kaduna Nzeogwu and his friends even braged and smilled while killing Sarduna , Tafa balewa, Samuel Ladoke Akintola and many more

..

what is the relationship between this rubbish u drop here and story?

Chibuzoc:


Well said, In all honesty what you wrote, is it possible in nigeria Just be honest. If your senators are concerned I doubt nigeria will be world poverty capital

is it the Senators and reps that will developed and eradicate poverty in Nigeria? there roles is to check balance the executive political discrepancies and make law


you don't know the relevance and influence of your reps

His people planned and carried out the coup, even tho he was not literally involved, he had the opportunity to clean his hands and exonerate himself by bringing those that committed the atrocities to book, but he kept dragging his foot by being reluctant.. this implies that he had a tacit support or symphaty for the coup plotters, hence, we have no regrets in whatever happened to him!!

Lol "he was on the verge of bringing them to book at his own time", don't take us for illiterates pls!! You can tell this crap anf bullshit to ur delusion friends in a bear parlour... when was it his time, did he personall tell you his time?? People that intentionally, vividly and clearly massacred soldiers in a brutal way, and he could not bring them to book for 8 good months and ur foolishly talking about time

The truth is that had no intention in bringing his people to justice, that's why he kept foot dragging the case while playing to the gallery

Northerners were not in support of unitary system, but that was not the genesis of the counter coup, because if that was the case, they would have done it long time before any other coup.. read all the articles by authors and eye witness and ull know it was the initial coup that killed northern soldiers that led to the counter coup

bigfish3k:


than thank God u agreed that he didnt plan the coup but u killed him for it, for a coup that he didnt plan nor execute but he was the one that foiled the coup for the northerners.
and he was on the verge of bringing them to book at his own time

and you that dont want to change history, pls remind me whether the north/country was in support of the unitary system he was practicing
Mr . man they killed him because of the coup he didnt plan and mostly because of the unitary system which they dont like thats why the north wanted to declare independence after the counter coup but was stopped by the british - we are all suffering it today

Who stopped teaching history?? My people?? Who are those people please?? Be specific and stop being vague

bigfish3k:

btw, why did u people stop teaching history in schools if not to carry out this kind of distorted write ups by people like u

My comprehension can only be Zero if you are making sense.

You don't even have a prove that Igbo junior officers are not being promoted but that tribal sentiments will make you think that you are stating a fact.

You played yourself when you mentioned both.

The only ripple effect here is the 'victim mentality' which someone somewhere has fed you all with and you are holding it too close to your hearts as a fact.

bigfish3k:

yes, i deliberately mentioned both "merit based and/or political patronage" because i know that whichever way u swing the pendulum - igbos are qualified
i need u to proof me wrong with facts and higher reasoning and stop using abusive words as if u are right
mind you, i never told u junior officers are not promoted
i told u that the effect of not promoting igbo junior officers is the reason we are not having "ogas at the top" - its a ripple effect
ur comprehension skill is zero

People that support this government are classified into four.
1.People that are currently benefiting from the status quo.
2. People who hope to benefit when this administration concludes its tenure
3. People who HATE Igbo's
4. Illiterates who lack any knowledge of economics
5. Lastly, people who just wish to punish some Nigerians for being so myopic and gullible to have allowed the most incompetent set of Nigerians to be at the helm of affairs.

What an irredeemable geographical area called Nigeria....

Sweeetheart:



is it the Senators and reps that will developed and eradicate poverty in Nigeria? there roles is to check balance the executive political discrepancies and make law


you don't know the relevance and influence of your reps

Abuja errand boys you mean

Aaronzy:
Una mumu Neva do.
A high profile man from the southern part of the country will rather put his child to work in oil company or CBN
While a high profile man from northern part Of the country will put his child in the military and paramilitary. Wen promotion comes, those that are from high profile families will be favoured most

Igbo's are still learning the game of power. That's why they will never taste the seat of power. Whomever controls the military and paramilitary institutions in a country dictates who rules. Presidency is just a figure head.... its an open secret

celeiyke:
*Concerns Mount over Constitutionality of Police Command Appointments

•North-west tops list with 12 CPs, South-east gets one in contravention of federal character principle enshrined in S14 (3) of 1999 Constitution as amended

•Abia, 13 others have none


•PSC pushes for implementation of policy on balance, equality of states

There are mounting concerns over the constitutionality of appointment of Commissioners of Police (CPs) to the 36 states of the federation and the Federal Capital Territory (FCT).

While some states have more than three CPs heading state police commands, many others have none contrary to the provision of Section 14 (3) of the Constitution as amended, which forbids domination of one section of the country by the other.

It states: “The composition of the Government of the Federation or any of its agencies and the conduct of its affairs shall be carried out in such a manner to reflect the federal character of Nigeria and the need to promote national unity, and also to command national loyalty thereby ensuring that there shall be no predominance of persons from a few states or from a few ethnic of other sectional groups in that government or in any of its agencies.”

Police sources that spoke to THISDAY yesterday said there were concerns in the force that it was in breach of this section of the constitution, contending that it had become necessary for the police authorities to make amends.

A breakdown of the list of commissioners of police in state command positions obtained by THISDAY shows that while Katsina has four slots, 14 other states, including Abia, Anambra, Bayelsa, Benue, Delta, Ebonyi, Ekiti, Enugu, Jigawa, Kogi, Nasarawa, Ondo, Oyo and Rivers have none.

It also showed that of the six geopolitical zones, the North-west dominated with 12 of its indigenes in such a powerful position.

Of the 12, four are from Katsina State, the home state of President Muhammadu Buhari, while Kebbi has three, Sokoto two, with Zamfara, Kano and Kaduna producing one apiece. However, Jigawa, the seventh state in the zone has no indigene holding any state command.

Trailing the North-west is the North-east with eight of its indigenes in command positions. Of the eight, two each are from Adamawa and Taraba States while Borno, Bauchi, Gombe and Yobe have one each.

With seven of their indigenes holding command positions, the South-west came third in order of ranking.

Osun has three, while Lagos and Ogun States produced two each. The three other states in the zone, Ekiti, Oyo and Ondo, have none.

As for the South-south, three of the five CPs are from Cross River, one each from Akwa Ibom and Edo, while Rivers, Delta and Bayelsa have none.

The North-central, with four CPs is next to the South-south. Niger, Plateau, FCT and Kwara have one each, while Benue, Kogi as well as Nasarawa have no indigene leading any of the 36 state commands and FCT.

At the bottom of the ranking is the South-east, which has only one CP from Imo State. The other four states in the geopolitical zone, Anambra, Abia, Enugu and Ebonyi have none.
The situation, analysts say, makes a joke of the Buhari administration’s community policing policy, which places emphasis on localization of the police.

“The whole idea is that people who are more knowledgeable about an area are better placed to police the community, hence the indigenisation of the police. Asking a Northerner from landlocked Kano State to head the policing of riverine Bayelsa State turns logic on its head,” an analyst said.

Indeed there are deafening complaints in police circles, that the entire mobile police squadrons in the South are commanded by Northern officers. “Does that make sense to you?” a serving senior officer asked THISDAY.

THISDAY checks have shown that in a bid to ensure adherence to the federal character principle and adequate representation of the 36 states of the federation in the posting of police commissioners, the PSC is pushing for the implementation of its policy that stipulates that each state of the federation must produce a commissioner of police heading a state police command at any given time.

The policy states that each state must produce a commissioner of police, who must serve at least two years in a command before redeployment. If a particular state does not have an officer of the rank of a commissioner, a neighbouring state that satisfies the requirement may take its place.
THISDAY gathered that some states produced many commissioners of police, none of whom is heading any state police command.

Said a knowledgeable source: “Some states may have let’s say four commissioners of police but none of them would be heading any state command. They may just be at the Admin Department of the Force Headquarters.
“It is an existing policy which has not been implemented. We are pushing for its implementation.”

The source said the policy envisaged that a police commissioner should serve at least two years in such a command before redeployment.

“The policy states how CPs should be appointed and tenure. That every state will have a state command CP. I mean it puts to an end to the practice where one state will produce four CPs while some will have their sons and daughters on CP ranks posted to head admin and other redundant offices.

“The policy says that command CPs will now have a tenure of not less than two years and should not be removed unless on promotion, disciplinary issues or death,” the source said.

THISDAY further learnt that the PSC is expected to post commissioners as required by the constitution but the policy on state command CPs has not been implemented by the IG.
It was learnt that the IG is allegedly frustrating the implementation of the policy.

“The policy says the commission will now post CPs to commands as it is stated in the constitution that such posting is an appointment and the responsibility of the commission.

“This policy came into effect several months ago but has not been respected by the IGP. Currently many states with officers on CP rank don’t have state command CP,” the source said.

THISDAY also learnt that most of the MOPOL commanders posted to the Southern part of the country are from the North, a situation that is at variance with the federal character principle.

“The issue of Commanders of Police Mobile Force, PMF is terribly lopsided. This is not in the policy but there is need to spread it so that every state, region should be represented. There is need for federal character in these appointments. Presently, MOPOL commanders in squadrons in the South are northerners,” a security source said.

When contacted, spokesman of PSC, Ikechukwu Ani, said the commission had since sent the policy document to the IG for implementation.

“I am aware there is a policy on that from the commission. We have since sent it to the IGP,” he said.
Force Police Public Relations Officer, Mr. Frank Mba, a deputy commissioner, told THISDAY he was attending a retreat when he was contacted for responses to the constitutional and operational issues raised.

Answers to THISDAY enquiry, listing the areas of concerns forwarded to his mobile phones yesterday afternoon were still being awaited at press time.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2019/11/26/concerns-mount-over-constitutionality-of-police-command-appointments/

They have refused to decentralized the police command. My solution is this let every police officers be transferred to there respective states and let have rotational IGP every year from the six geopolitical zones. This way it will still be command by the federal government.

calyto:
My comprehension can only be Zero if you are making sense.

You don't even have a prove that Igbo junior officers are not being promoted but that tribal sentiments will make you think that you are stating a fact.

You played yourself when you mentioned both.

The only ripple effect here is the 'victim mentality' which someone somewhere has fed you all with and you are holding it too close to your hearts as a fact.

nobody fed me any thing - i am educated and independent minded and i am not hating anybody, just lets do things right - chikena-
i am bemoaning the fact that igbos are not represented at the top security echelon of the country. its not healthy for the country if a zone that thrives so well in so many things and is highly educated is marginalized unnecessarily and schemed out of the countrys developmental equations- not that those that they were schemed out for are even doing any better and we want development

the proof of marginalization is found in the report above - only one person from the whole SE is a commissioner of police while another less educated region has twelve - how then can we develop like this

Igbo:
His people planned and carried out the coup, even tho he was not literally involved, he had the opportunity to clean his hands and exonerate himself by bringing those that committed the atrocities to book, but he kept dragging his foot by being reluctant.. this implies that he had a tacit support or symphaty for the coup plotters, hence, we have no regrets in whatever happened to him!!

Lol "he was on the verge of bringing them to book at his own time", don't take us for illiterates pls!! You can tell this crap anf bullshit to ur delusion friends in a bear parlour... when was it his time, did he personall tell you his time?? People that intentionally, vividly and clearly massacred soldiers in a brutal way, and he could not bring them to book for 8 good months and ur foolishly talking about time

The truth is that had no intention in bringing his people to justice, that's why he kept foot dragging the case while playing to the gallery

Northerners were not in support of unitary system, but that was not the genesis of the counter coup, because if that was the case, they would have done it long time before any other coup.. read all the articles by authors and eye witness and ull know it was the initial coup that killed northern soldiers that led to the counter coup

how did he drag his foot - you kept saying that he dragged for 8 months while he ruled for only 6 months , so how is 8 months possible
how many months did it take this govt to name ordinary ministers since u said that 6 months is too much a time for him
do u know that nzeogwu and his team where not outrightly defeated? they had to reach an agreement to surrender to avert more loss of lives

in that situation do u expect ironsi to swoop on them immediately and renege on their peace agreements?
he wanted to do it his own way but u people killed him without understanding him. its so bad the country has never recovered from such senseless killings

A CONSTITUTIONAL STATE THAT DOESN'T HAVE A CP WHO IS AN INDIGENE OF THE STATE IS A SLAVE STATE.

And you wonder why they hate Nigeria or Buhari with passion? Even the blind knows that South East is marginalized beyond description in Nigeria. I don't blame them for agitating for cessation

Modivs:
The whole south south is equivalent to kaduna and katsina in terms of land mass and population so if you are giving them thesame number of slots that means you are cheating on north

U see your life. The entire north contributes nothing to sustain the federation. How do we share our proceed? Pls answers needed.

itsme01:




Ndi Marginalisation at it again

perhaps the IGP doesnt trust Ndi invicticus and Ndi Onyeama

when Professor ben nwabueze and Gen Aguiyi Ironsi where busy destroying regional government constituition and writting the unitary one they where happy and smiling, kaduna Nzeogwu and his friends even braged and smilled while killing Sarduna , Tafa balewa, Samuel Ladoke Akintola and many more

..

Intact u took d words right out my mouth.
One of their greedy fathers that destroyed regional govt for unitary is still alive.
They should direct their grievances to him biko.

Igbo:
Sharap!! Don't try to change history, he was killed because of the coup that killed mainly northern soldiers.. You see how u nyamuri flat.heads like to take everyone as fools and illiterates!

U don't need to begrudge him biko, dts d version of 'truth' his lying forefathers fed him with!

jahsharon:
South-East already has several CPs in Biafra Security Services.

Azin ehn.....

This is a major problem with Buhari's government.

I don't see how this should surprise anyone. Igbos are not many in the police force compared to northerners and yorubas.

Chibuzoc:


Which one is selfish interest Why was Biafra declared Who were killing who even before the coup

Compare when the British industries were in the hands of Igbos and now that it's in the hands of hausa/Fulani/Yoruba

What you call nepotism was based on merit then not now that we have affidavit holders

nothing waz base on merit u Igbos align with hausa to be at the realms of power

Ezewuzie01:
I don't see how this should surprise anyone. Igbos are not many in the police force compared to northerners and yorubas.

Maybe low level recruits (privates and constables), but I'm quite sure when recruiting in the Police College and when recruiting graduates as Inspectors and Assistant Superintendents, it's done on federal character/quota basis. Those officers are the people who later become commissioners, not barely educated constables. If Northerners are the ones predominantly rising to the top, the only reason is ingrained, systemic, institutionalized tribalism and nepotism.
The irony is that Federal Character benefits the core North far more than other regions, but when they rise to the top in any organization, they don't even have the decency to maintain the equity system that favors them ALREADY. They go a step further to enshrine dominance. They've turned organizations like NNPC, DPR, Customs etc to their personal property, and much of the national security apparatus as well.

That is the cheating we have been talking about, even made worst under buhari, APC, government, and this same reason,had caused the problem between PSC and the police, north takes all, while few just shared by other states

Are you qualified and you were denied the opportunity?
Or are you fighting for people who are not even fighting?

bigfish3k:

yes, i deliberately mentioned both "merit based and/or political patronage" because i know that whichever way u swing the pendulum - igbos are qualified
i need u to proof me wrong with facts and higher reasoning and stop using abusive words as if u are right
mind you, i never told u junior officers are not promoted
i told u that the effect of not promoting igbo junior officers is the reason we are not having "ogas at the top" - its a ripple effect
ur comprehension skill is zero