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Re: Religion: The Greatest Delusion Of All Time by OnPointMan(m): 7:09pm On Nov 30, 2019 |
OtemAtum:now you are talking! Who gives psychics their powers? |
Re: Religion: The Greatest Delusion Of All Time by OtemAtum: 7:11pm On Nov 30, 2019 |
OnPointMan:I didn't say that other people cannot receive revelations, but what I'm saying is that currently Jehovah cannot reveal anything to anyone because he is currently in a spiritual cage. There are many beings out there in the spiritual realm, any of them can reveal something to anybody. Even our ancestors can reveal something to we their descendants. There are many revelations we can even get without knowing who actually is revealing them. They could even be our guardian angels. |
Re: Religion: The Greatest Delusion Of All Time by OtemAtum: 7:14pm On Nov 30, 2019 |
OnPointMan:The brain. It is capable of doing everything. All records of the events of the universes, past and present, are in every single brain on earth, but to access them is the difficulty we might be facing. The brain is a store of universal information and not a tabula raza. 2 Likes |
Re: Religion: The Greatest Delusion Of All Time by OnPointMan(m): 7:21pm On Nov 30, 2019 |
OtemAtum: Hmmm. So it's not God or gods, as the case might be? |
Re: Religion: The Greatest Delusion Of All Time by OtemAtum: 7:27pm On Nov 30, 2019 |
OnPointMan:Somehow |
Re: Religion: The Greatest Delusion Of All Time by OnPointMan(m): 7:32pm On Nov 30, 2019 |
OtemAtum: Oh! So you believe in Angels? |
Re: Religion: The Greatest Delusion Of All Time by OnPointMan(m): 7:35pm On Nov 30, 2019 |
OtemAtum: Will like to meet you one on one someday sire. |
Re: Religion: The Greatest Delusion Of All Time by OtemAtum: 8:07pm On Nov 30, 2019 |
OnPointMan:There are just so many beings out there. Even when we die, we could become guardian angels to others. 1 Like |
Re: Religion: The Greatest Delusion Of All Time by oaroloye(m): 8:13pm On Nov 30, 2019 |
MISHIGAS! DikeDiMighty: CHILDREN SUCH AS YOURSELF MOCK THINGS YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT, TRAINED AND ENCOURAGED BY PEOPLE WHO DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU. DikeDiMighty: THE UTTER STUPIDITY OF THE ATHEIST WHO IS SO MENTALLY-DEFECTIVE, THAT THEY HAVE TO DISTORT WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS, IN ORDER TO DECLARE IT ILLOGICAL AND FOOLISH. The Bible never said anything about The Ark containing a whole Planet. Your mind is so shallow, that you have to imagine that every Animal native to unique locations today must have been located there, thousands of years ago. Your intelligence is so low, that you cannot think that God had prepared for the Flood for many years before implementing It. NOAH only had to have KINDS of Animals on the Ark- not every single one of the thousands into millions of species. The secular Scientists believed that every one of the millions of species evolved from a chance combination of Chemicals (ABIOGENESIS), until millions of dollars expended in trying to practicalize this Theory for decades ended in nothing but consistent failure. These so-called SCIENTISTS now believe that Organic Compounds responsible for life were formed somewhere in the alleged "Outer Space," traversed an environment far more capable of destroying them than the Primordial Earth, and then miraculously formed every living thing that exists via Evolution. [See: EXPELLED! NO INTELLIGENCE ALLOWED, by Ben Stein (the Richard Dawkins interview clip).] They further declare that no intelligence is involved in this Theory- which seems to be the only part of it that is possibly true. The Ark was not leaking- if it were you would have no way to know that, but lie to buttress your non-existent case. The Bible specifically states that GOD had to close the door of the Ark. He surely saw to any possible other technological shortcoming of Noah. DikeDiMighty: IT IS DISGUSTING THAT SOMEONE SO IGNORANT OF BASIC GEOGRAPHY SHOULD BE MAKING SUCH STATEMENTS- MAKING THE INTELLIGENT ATHEISTS LOOK STUPID BY ASSOCIATION! An Atheist has to rebuke "MARSHALL BRAIN," the author of the HOW STUFF WORKS DOT COM Website, for his vain "FIFTY PROOFS THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST." None of the objections were valid, but some of them were more nonsensical than others. One of his "proofs" was that if you demand: "GOD- IF YOU EXIST, MANIFEST YOURSELF TO ME RIGHT NOW!" He does not manifest. That is supposed to prove that God, Who has never had any agreement with THEM to manifest to them in that way, does not exist. These Oyinbos were basically spoilt brats, with no manners, who had no respect for their own Elders-in-Faith, whom they could visit and see, let alone God. Whom they could neither visit nor see. The Staff of Moses signaled the parting of the part of the Red Sea that the Children of Israel had to cross. Nowhere does The Bible say that the entire sea was parted. Nowhere does The Bible say that the Power to do this was in Moses Staff. In Modern Oyinbo Military tactics, soldiers on-ground shine little laser flashlights onto targets, so that missiles that they themselves could not carry can be guided to those targets, to destroy them. It would be stupid and ignorant to say that the soldiers, or the flashlights, were so "powerful," that they were able to destroy those targets. You know about that, and understand that. How then can you not understand that the Power to deflect tins of water did not have to come from Moses, but was merely triggered and directed by Moses? Your failure to diligently use the Mind God gave you has earned you your Damnation. DikeDiMighty: WHEREAS THE BIBLE SPECIFICALLY SAID THAT YESHUA COMMANDED THE SUN AND MOON TO STAND STILL, YOU HAVE TO BE STUPID AND USE OYINBO IGNORANCE TO EDIT THE BIBLE, IN ORDER TO MAKE IT SEEM STUPID. The only stupidity is with you. "THE SUN" is that source of light and heat seen to move through the sky during the day. "THE MOON" is that source of cold light seen to move through the sky at night. Everyone can see them move. For some Oyinbo idiot to tell us that the Sun is not moving, therefore, Yeshua bar Nun could not have told It to stop moving is the height of foolishness. All he cared about was the Sun and Moon's LIGHT: that didn't have to go anywhere. The status of the bodies themselves was irrelevant. Yeshua was not concerned with theoretical bodies. He only wanted an EFFECT. He got that effect. His army got the light they wanted to finish their battle. DikeDiMighty: SPIRITUAL POWER CAN LEVITATE THE HUMAN BODY- AFRICANS, NATIVE AMERICANS- PROBABLY EVERY PEOPLE ON EARTH- EVEN THE OYINBOS-HAVE KNOWN THIS. The Oyinbos hate any idea that they cannot patent and own, restrict and meter, so that they can outlaw it, or make people pay them money for it. Therefore, they brainwash their Agents to spread the Propaganda that those things do not exist. Who cares about "ESCAPE VELOCITY," "SPACE-SUITS," and such Oyinbo nonsense? The Evidence-on-Ground strongly proves that there is no such thing as a "SPACE-SUIT." There has NEVER been any authentic record of any in operation. There are several publicly-available records of "SPACE-WALKS" where the "ASTRONAUT" was proven to actually be in a SWIMMING POOL, pretending to be in Outer Space. Air-bubbles trapped in the equipment have inconveniently floated free, and crossed the screen, in plain view, during live broadcasts meant to deceive the World that they can actually go to Space. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS5U5UNzVJM In one extreme case, the "Astronot's" suit sprang a leak, and his helmet began filling up with water. Pressed to explain where this water came from, NASA finally adopted the "JOSEPH (GOOD AS GOLD) HELLER Defense" and said: "WE DON'T KNOW!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddj1s9rvSeA WHO TOLD YOU THAT LORD YESHUA HAD TO GO THROUGH THE PHYSICAL UNIVERSE TO REACH HEAVEN? What do you know about the process? You really know nothing at all, and are trying to measure Knowledge with Ignorance- a process like dividing by zero. In Sorcery there are several techniques of Teleportation, using Shadows, Fire, Water, Clouds, or Fog. A phenomenon that exists in one location can be used to access the same phenomenon in another location- even if that location is on another CONTINENT, another WORLD, or in another UNIVERSE. [See: THE EAGLE'S GIFT, by Carlos Castaneda. THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda. THE WAY OF THE SHAMAN, by Michael Harner. THE CELESTINE PROPHECY, by James Redfield.] Lord Yeshua entered a cloud above his Disciples' heads, and would have emerged from another cloud in Heaven. The cloud does not have to be made of Water-Vapour. Spiritual Power that breaches Space can be interpreted by the weak Mind as a "CLOUD." A strong Mind could see a Gateway, or a Tunnel. In another technique, the Event Horizon of a Teleportation Field is *seen* as a "pillar of cloud," which moves as one turns one's head. If one can *will* it to stop moving, one can enter into the cloud, and emerge elsewhere. The Oyinbos would love to control these effects, so that they can weaponize them, and use them to deliver killers or bombs to their perceived "enemies." Their greatest fear is that someone will do the same to them. They have good reason to fear that, because they richly deserve it. DikeDiMighty: THE LIONS IN THE DEN DANIEL WAS DUMPED IN NOT FEEDING ON HIM IS ONE OF THE LEAST MIRACLES OF THE BIBLE. When animals are in the presence of HOLINESS, they know. They know that this is not their dinner. When they are in the presence of SINFULNESS it is the exact opposite. They sense that these are beings they do not have to respect. Even Scientists know that some carnivores deliberately terrorize their prey- by roaring at them, or playing around with them- in order to cause the secretion of enzymes that tenderize the meat, and make it more palatable. It must be remembered that animals cannot cook. Even Sinners who can control their fear to the point that it is undetectable by carnivores, can discourage the carnivores from attacking, because it knows- probably from painful experience- that creatures that do not fear it make terrible meals. They do not taste good, and do not digest well. DANIEL was explicitly proven to be a master of Mind-Control, and, even without Supernatural Power, could have presented as the worst possible prey, to be avoided at all costs. Fools who try to prove that they are more Righteous than others, by climbing into Lion's Dens, walking on Crocodile-infested Rivers, jumping off skyscrapers, and such nonsense, are trying to start from the middle, instead of From The Beginning. Before they can achieve those feats, there are many lesser feats that they should achieve first. Before acquiring Power for themselves, they should first seek It for those who need It before them. People who lose their sick children, by trying to Heal them with The Prayer of Faith, instead of applicable Medicine are invariably Hypocrites, who were quite okay with other people, weak in Faith, losing their own children to sickness. They only became interested in praying earnestly to Heal sick children, crying in pain, and writhing in agony, WHEN IT WAS THEIR OWN CHILDREN. In what Universe can parents like that deserve to have children? Therefore, there have been people who have tried to acquire Power over Animals, Walking on Anything, and Levitation- for whatever motive is irrelevant- but they failed, because they only believed in, and wanted the Power for themselves. Fools deny the accounts of The Power of Lord Yeshua, but do not challenge the accounts of him getting up to pray before daybreak, or praying all night. Did they think that he did that for fun? Did they think that there was no connection between that groundwork, and the later Miracles? DikeDiMighty: SHAMANISTIC /WITCHCRAFT SOCIETIES THE WORLD OVER ARE FAMILIAR WITH TALKING ANIMALS AND TELEPATHY. It appears that when one attains a certain Spiritual Level, one can communicate with any living Creature, and get intelligent responses. Even non-living things can intelligently respond- if a pillar of rock were asked by a Spiritual Man: "WHO PASSED HERE?!?" the rock can respond. That is called "DIVINATION." Intelligent interaction with Beasts is well-known in Witchcraft- it is called "FAMILIARITY." In The Beginning, when the Earth was charged with Spiritual Energy, every Animal was a potential Familiar. In Modern Times, Familiarity is rare, and the technique is largely lost. The self-proclaimed TIBETAN BUDDHISM Missionary, LOBSANG RAMPA, devoted an entire volume to intelligent two-way conversations he had with his pet cats. The Anthropologist, CARLOS CASTANEDA asked for proof of the Spiritual, was shown a (dangerous) Divination technique, using Desert Lizards as familiars, to find out events occurring even thousands of miles away. [See: LIVING WITH THE LAMA, by Lobsang T. Rampa. THE TEACHINGS OF DON JUAN: A Yaqui Way of Knowledge, by Carlos Castaneda.] Silly children should not blab nonsense about things going on in the World that they know nothing about. DikeDiMighty: GOD CREATED THE UNIVERSE: WHY THEN, SHOULD HE NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CREATE ONE SINGLE SPERM CELL TO FERTILIZE ONE OVUM? Can your Oyinbo Masters explain where the first Sperm cell to fertilize the first Mammalian ovum came from? Of course they cannot. Do you know where the ISRAELITES came from? Of course you don't- being a functionally-illiterate fool! God made a ninety-year old barren woman conceive a son and survive the childbirth. When she was kidnapped by a king, God rendered his whole household barren, until he released her. He proved that HE is the determining factor, allowing conception to take place. THREE TIMES God PROVED that He does not even NEED two fertile mates to produce an offspring, when He might need one. Instead of FEARING God, you instead mock like a FOOL, having heard of the extent of His Powers. Atheism is thus proven to be a weakness of the Mind- an ATTENTION-DEFICIT DISORDER- not a product of mental strength, intelligence, nor intellect. 2 Likes |
Re: Religion: The Greatest Delusion Of All Time by OnPointMan(m): 8:30pm On Nov 30, 2019 |
OtemAtum: Who's going to assign us that role of guardian angels? |
Re: Religion: The Greatest Delusion Of All Time by OtemAtum: 11:30pm On Nov 30, 2019 |
OnPointMan:We can assign it to ourselves, or a human coming to the earth can ask that we should be his or her angel. |
Re: Religion: The Greatest Delusion Of All Time by OnPointMan(m): 1:21am On Dec 01, 2019 |
OtemAtum: Ok now. Does Atum have power to heal the sick? |
Re: Religion: The Greatest Delusion Of All Time by MadLogan(m): 3:08am On Dec 01, 2019 |
CaveAdullam: As a human being, when it comes to what you believe, you have to be concrete about it.... what if you discover that humans are not the most intelligent being in the universe will your mentally about Christianity change? What if the way we humans created some robots that are currently in Mars is how an advance race created humans on earth? (Mind you, other forms of life have been discovered Mars)... as an intelligent person that you are, I don’t have any right to tell you what to believe but I surely will advise you to be open minded to things you don’t know maybe you will learn better that way.... You can’t just believe what was told by other humans that have not been proven or that has a lot of questions yet unanswered... |
Re: Religion: The Greatest Delusion Of All Time by OtemAtum: 8:00am On Dec 01, 2019 |
OnPointMan:The beings out there don't interfere to much in the affairs of humans. They want things to be done in a scientific manner. If Atum were to be physically in the world today, he could have chosen to be a doctor, user of herbs, psychologist, etc then he would heal the sick through such means. But Atum is currently out deep in the universes exploring the universes as much as he could. The most proper way of healing the sick is what Atum has revealed and it is through medicine/science. So when anyone is sick, seek medical assistance. |
Re: Religion: The Greatest Delusion Of All Time by OnPointMan(m): 8:15am On Dec 01, 2019 |
OtemAtum:Ok sire. Good morning |
Re: Religion: The Greatest Delusion Of All Time by oaroloye(m): 8:39am On Dec 01, 2019 |
MISHIGAS! God created Man for the expressed Purpose of Exercising Dominion over the Earth and Its inhabitants. . GENESIS 1:26-31. 26. And God Said, "Let us make Man in Our Image, after Our Likeness: and let them have Dominion over the Fish of the Sea, and over the Fowl of the Air, and over the Cattle, and over all the Earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the Earth." 27. So God created Man in His Own Image, in The Image of God created He him; male and female created He them. 28. And God Blessed them, and God Said unto them, "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the Earth, and subdue It: and have Dominion over the Fish of the Sea, and over the Fowl of the Air, and over every Living Thing that moveth upon the Earth." 29. And God Said, "Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the Face of all the Earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30. And to every Beast of the Earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the Earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat:" and it was so. 31. And God saw every thing that He had made, and, behold, it was Very Good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. FROM THE BEGINNING, GOD MADE IT CLEAR THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MAN AND BEASTS. BEASTS could eat anything Green, but MEN could not. This should tell us that there is a difference between those who only assimilate Selectively, and those who assimilate any nonsense they find. . MARK 11:12-14, 20-26. 12 And on the morrow, when they had come from Bethany, he was hungry: 13 and seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he went to see if perhaps he might find any thing thereon: But when he came to it he found nothing but leaves; for the time for figs was not (yet). 14. And Jesus answered and Said unto it, “Let no man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever.” And His Disciples heard (it). 20 And in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig tree dried up from the roots. 21. And Peter, calling to remembrance saith unto him, “Master, behold, the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered away.” 22. And Jesus answering, Said unto them, “Have Faith in God. 23. "For verily I Say unto you, 'THAT WHOSOEVER SHALL SAY UNTO THIS MOUNTAIN, "BE THOU REMOVED, AND BE THOU CAST INTO THE SEA;' AND SHALL NOT DOUBT IN HIS HEART, BUT SHALL BELIEVE THAT THOSE THINGS WHICH HE SAITH SHALL COME TO PASS; HE SHALL HAVE WHATSOEVER HE SAITH.'[/i 24. "Therefore I Say unto you, [i]'WHAT THINGS SOEVER YE DESIRE, WHEN YE PRAY, BELIEVE THAT YE RECEIVE (THEM), AND YE SHALL HAVE (THEM).' 25. "And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have aught against any, that your Father also which is in Heaven may forgive you your trespasses. 26. "But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father Which is in Heaven forgive your trespasses.” THE BIBLE TEACHES THAT THOSE WHO DISCIPLINE THEMSELVES TO BE BETTER THAN THE BEASTS ACQUIRE AS MANY AS TEN POWERS TO IMPLEMENT DOMINION OVER THE EARTH AND ITS UNDISCIPLINED INHABITANTS. . THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (Matt. 25.) 1. TOTAL RECALL. 2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION. 3. TELEKINESIS. 4. TELEPORTATION. 5. TRANSLATION. 6-10. EVERLASTING LIFE. DikeDiMighty: CHILDREN SUCH AS YOURSELF MOCK THINGS YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT, TRAINED AND ENCOURAGED BY PEOPLE WHO DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU. |
Re: Religion: The Greatest Delusion Of All Time by CaveAdullam: 1:50pm On Dec 01, 2019 |
Thanks for this mention madLogan. MadLogan you will agree with me that no human on earth is COMPLETELY OBJECTIVE, we all have our different experiences that cannot be prove in the laboratory at least for now. There are some of your experiences that you can die for and I on the other hand might dispute it, saying it is false and vice versa. Humans are limited in many areas, even if we are to confirm every scientific facts on our own in the laboratory, how many can we carryout considering the fact that our time on earth is very short. If we are to read all the books in the library, how many can we read? The truth is that we tend to believe what we want to and what is making sense even when we can't prove it on our own or when others reject it. However, whatever claim to be the truth must be open for investigations and the resources to get to it must be accessible to all; but lame and strong. Even as a Christian, God did not seal my brain from reasoning, He left it there so that I can investigate His claims and find out if He is true. To a larger extent I have come to the certainty that yes He is true and He is the Lord Jesus Christ. MadLogan:Yes there are more intelligent beings than human if your definition of universe covers the Heavens, the Earth and Beneath the Earth. God, the Holy Spirit, Angels, Demons etc are examples. MadLogan:You are not far from the truth my dear, humans on earth were/are created by an intelligent being; that being is GOD. MadLogan:I am always open minded my dear, in fact the non religious people here in nairaland made me to start investigating my claims as a Christian. I once believed everything in the Bible by Faith, but now I no longer use faith alone but alongside with LOGIC. i will always dispose anything that I cherish if at anytime it is found wanting. It is not easy but the relief is great. MadLogan:My dear I don't know if you are a non religious person, the fact is that all humans dead or alive has FAITH towards something they believe(d) without any iota of prove. It might be coded or open faith but non is void of it. MadLogan have you carried out a DNA TEST ON YOUR PARENTS AND SIBLINGS IN ORDER TO PROVE IF ALL OF YOU BELONG TO THE SAME BLOODLINE? Thanks. God bless. |
Re: Religion: The Greatest Delusion Of All Time by MadLogan(m): 8:20pm On Dec 01, 2019 |
CaveAdullam: I think your quote deserves reply considering the fact that you are open minded. Firstly, since you know there are other higher intelligent races than humans in the universe, I will be pleased to let you know as a fact that there are hundreds of millions if not billions of life forms in the universe humans have made contact with some of these highly intelligent extraterrestrials and are striking deals with them to exchange their technology for bad energy and bad vibes etc(these extraterrestrials use these bad energies for what is not clear to humans; these kinds of extraterrestrials are what we call the demons{please don’t argue if you have not made heavy research} on the other hand a group of extraterrestrials that are humanoid have also met with USA government in the 60’s offering them technologies so that USA could call off their huge nuclear project then; these extraterrestrials are white in complexion but humanoids and are the closest in resemblance to humans; they love human race and want to protect human race(these are what we call the angels). These extraterrestrials have been visiting earth even before they created humans, they built the Egyptian pyramids and the wonders of the worlds, they taught early humans mathematics, astronomy etc.. not to forget, these extraterrestrials came in to earth space jets(UFOs) and when they left they left in their space jets early humans which they created watched them leave in their space jets too(that’s why it’s a common tradition amongst every human races to always pray or worship their creators that literally flew into the skies(heavens)). For your extra information, these extraterrestrials good ones and bad ones adopt humans for their scientific purposes etc and they return some humans(research to hear accounts from the people they adopted and decided to air what they went through). The Bible is a book that has the highest sitings of extraterrestrial activities in earth of which the stories have been taught in a different way... what we believe to be miracles are miracles because we humans have not been able to prove it scientifically. As time pass more miracles will be proven scientifically just like how science have been able to prove the earth is spherical as said in the Bible... The universe is a isolated system nothing is new, nothing is old everything is energy; the living things, the non-living things, thoughts, emotions, food, everything etc is energy of you have the ability to tap and utilize the energy, you can just do anything(research Ki, Tai chi, yoga meditation etc) As for if I’m same bloodline with my siblings; we may not be the same bloodline from the inception of the creation of my race, but we sure have close linked DNA. You can save this my write up for the next 30 years to confirm everything I just explained firsthand or you can research immediately to get your confirmation... I know more than what I just stated but can’t say all at once. I KNOW WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT. peace! |
Re: Religion: The Greatest Delusion Of All Time by CaveAdullam: 8:45pm On Dec 01, 2019 |
MadLogan:well done my dear. I think both of us are saying one thing in different versions. The truth will always reveal itself in the passage of time. Since 30years is a start lets observe and wait till then. Thanks. God bless. |
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