bukatyne:

Which is back to where we are all trying to run from:

That women are beneath men.

Only children or mentally impaired people are expected not to think their decisions through and take responsibility for their actions.

crackhaus:

Ideally, they both raped and took advantage of each other.

But between a drunk man and a drunk woman, guess who is supposed to have more clarity?
Same reason why leadership remains indisputably the natural territory of a certain gender.

crackhaus:

I don't discard it as lies, but I perfectly understand those who do.

It can't be proven to be true, it can't be proven to be a lie...hence, I remain indifferent. Of course for a romantic partner or family member, it's deeper...but it still won't be more than empathy and assistance to bring healing.

The line between rape and consensual sex is just too thin and I have known this for a very long time. During my wild days, I would never have sex with any girl who was struggling or resisting, same thing now. I subconsciously have always been averse to giving a woman sexual power over me which is how I interpreted the act of cajoling her to have sex with me - if she no want, brother man will jejely go to sleep, stretch well, and snore very loudly.

And I was not even doing that to avoid crossing the rape line because this was way before the debate of consent/no-consent became widespread. I guess I have just always been woke and very protective of my self-pride, before one daughter of belial will wake up the next morning to tell me how I made her have sex when she never wanted to.

bukatyne:


I wanted to draw this statement out of you.

I know you don't care about the man's consent; all you care about is the woman's consent.

Except the modern definition of rape has changed, rape is sex without consent.

If they are both drunk irrespective of the degree of drunkenness, they 'raped' themselves or sensibly had drunken sex.

Whether they have buyer's remorse the next morning is a different thing.

If a lady wants to avoid the situation above, the solution is to avoid getting drunk outside the comfort of safety.

Why do people think such things are enjoyment and fun anyways?

The bold is me thinking aloud.

All these snearios are taking away a woman's capacity to think and make the right decisions for herself.

Which is back to where we are all trying to run from:

That women are beneath men.

Only children or mentally impaired people are expected not to think their decisions through and take responsibility for their actions.

bukatyne:


I wish it were a competition; it is not.

A drunk man forcing himself on a drunk woman is what?

fieryy:


What a way to blame the victim.

crackhaus:

bukatyne:


What victim?

CHoccolaTE:


What you asked me before



So even though the drunk man has enough clarity of mind to force the woman we should still blame the woman for raping him? Even when she was forced?

Na real wa ooo

You yourself mentioned on this thread that a drunk person who commits murder can't be absolved of murder became they were drunk so I dont understand how a man who forced a drunk woman, the man in this situation being the initiator and perpetrator of forced unconsented sex,

how is he the one being raped?

CHoccolaTE:


Fierry are you seeing something!

Tell me why is it that when women have a crush on a guy they start uttering crap to impress him? I was just wondering about it because of something that happened in my school before

bukatyne:


Thank God for your life, brother Crackhaus.

I was brought up to avoid stories that touch and send clear signals.

I remember when I was still friends with hubby and he went home. As per fresher, different guys wanted to try their luck.

This brother asked he out and after saying no, he insisted. I said 'OK, pay for my pictures' to put him off. I later had to develop better rejection mechanisms.

He did and came to my off campus house (we lived on adjacent streets). He said I should follow him home to 'drink tea' and I ran back to my house. My cousins though I was crazy (I am sure they still do ).

I might be 17+ but I instinctively knew that it did not make sense following someone to his house to drink tea. I knew it was wrong even though my cousins urged me on.

Ladies should engage their intuition more.

crackhaus:

In your cousins' eyes, you were probably a dull boring girl who didn't know how to have fun.

It's their type that will go to campus parties or clubs, get drunk, then come back to start complaining about one guy who kept touching them inappropriately on the dance floor.
Zero responsibility.

bukatyne:


You know, all these 'laws' recently created to 'protect' women seems great until you discover that they all imply women cannot be trusted to think and take responsibility for their actions.

People now sound more whinny, more it's not my fault, more bla bla bla.

How can a normal thinking girl claim not know when a heterosexual guy is interested in sleeping with her?

Why would you go to his house, request for stuffs (you know he will be malleable to give because he wants you), go on a date with him when you do not want to sleep with him?

I fear for the next generation because they women who can't take responsibility train responsible and accountable children.

It is not like the guys are any better.

fieryy:


Those are just silly women because women should not be trying to impress their crush at all. That's you showing green lights, which means you are giving him the permission to rape you. In fact, you should not even smile at your crush. That could also be you sending green light signals.

Let those who have ears hear o

crackhaus:

About the gender-protective laws, believe me, every intuitive person already knows what it implies.
It implies that the gender being protected in cases where both genders are culpable, is by consequence of the law, the weaker gender with little or no responsibility to think and make good decisions.

Many clear-thinking people already know this but just prefer keeping mute to remain politically correct.

bukatyne:


I got my ears full on how I was not enjoying my youth from different people.

I am following one boy, I am tying myself down, I should groove before I get married bla bla bla.

Let's just say we were trained from a very early age to live an intentional life.

No 'just have fun'; everything you do or don't do go into building your life.

I discovered myself and realized I neither have the strength or patience to go from pillar to post. I rather get it right once and build on it.

I also have a very sensitive conscience and I don't want anything to tamper with my peace of mind. I also don't want to be a victim of anything out of my stupidity

bukatyne:


I read some of them and I cringe:

How did women get here?

Some universities in the US even have 'safe spacies' where ladies run to when they feel overwhelmed or 'victimized' by their fellow male classmates?

What happened to the ladies who would gang up and shame guys who jumped from one friend to another or messed up and they gave themselves high five later?

University and Sec Schl were drama filled with plots and counterplots from male and females before perpetual victim hood.

Now they run into 'safe spaces' and cry.

No wonder depression is on the high side.

If a lady can't handle her male classmates in college, how would she face life's challenges?

fieryy:


Those are just silly women because women should not be trying to impress their crush at all. That's you showing green lights, which means you are giving him the permission to rape you. In fact, you should not even smile at your crush. That could also be you sending green light signals.

Let those who have ears hear o

CHoccolaTE:


Lol
You didnt code me well

There is also one woman on Nairaland who writes all sorts of funny stuff when her crush is around but never mind about that now

fieryy:


Lmaooooo!!! Oh my gosh, I totally got it wrong! Loooö

Now it all makes sense

CHoccolaTE:


See, I knew you were a sharp babe

bukatyne:


I wish it were a competition; it is not.

A drunk man forcing himself on a drunk woman is what?

bukatyne:


I am wondering because the drunk man was unable to give his consent and can claim to be raped too.

Prettiedame:
When I saw the creator of the thread, I didn't bother. I knew she would start off like she knows what she is saying, before she starts contradicting herself in an attempt to sound logical to her male cheerleaders

doitforyou:
Bukatyne issa male!

For someone that has been married with kids for a considerable number of time is always missing in threads that need the in-depth knowledge and experience of a woman with that profile. If he’s in such threads, he reels out questionnaires for the OP.

Ignore him, this is what he wants and lives for, back and forth with (f)s in the family section.

No pick-me has such an abhorrent view on rape.

fieryy:


I think she's a female, but a confused one. This is not the first time she created controversy threads about rape. She's just so.... clueless

doitforyou:


lol at clueless.

Well, now that we know ‘she’ craves attention from rape threads, then it’s best we don’t feed that craving.

At the end of the day ‘she’s’ a non-factor. There are real victims of rape that live in a society where they will never get justice. Let’s continue (for those that do it already) to channel our frustration to where it matters, the politicians and law enforcement that have the power to draft and enforce laws.

crackhaus:

While some may be of the opinion that your lifestyle then was not exciting enough, I personally feel that for a lady, this is always the better alternative. Yes, for a lady - and as much as it seems like I'm creating different standards for the sexes, I make no apology for it because it is what it is.

I lived the life as you would say - the youthful exuberance, the fun, the 'grooving'...knew all the 'lit' places, the koros, the jungles, etc
But I can attest for a fact that males are simply better equipped for all of this. Females on the other hand and in the same situations, will be subject to so many vices which they have little control over.

This is why I have always been weary of women who have made it their unofficial job to tackle inequality in social vices. On the one hand, they want it and yet on the other hand, will not take responsibility for the consequences that can come as a result of indulging in those vices.
So what gives, I wonder.

crackhaus:

This is exactly what 'woke' women are being taught to see as normal these days - complete lack of responsibility to themselves and their bad decisions. Some man, some religion, some tradition, some society, is always to be held responsible.
It's the reason they are becoming more angry, more unhappy, more depressed, more lonely even while having men in their lives, and in extreme cases, more suicidal.

Victimhood is a mask and it has a choking effect because a victim who has not accepted responsibility for their part in the circumstances, remains a prisoner to themselves and that 4X4ft prison will only continue getting smaller as they get older.

No one can heal under a mask (victimhood), wounds need air (responsibility) .

ibkayee:


Your initial question mentioned forcing though, second post makes it seem like you’re just talking about two drunk people having sex, which isn’t the same, c’mon now