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|Christians Will Be Cool With ECKANKAR If... by chieveboy(m): 9:01pm On Dec 30, 2019|
People who genuinely wish to actively contact the Holy Spirit and realize God/truth for themselves will look no further than the teachings and methods popularized by Eckankar.
The Holy Spirit is a Vortex of extra-powerful energy, a nuclear plant which could power the moon, the earth and all the galaxies is not so powerful comparatively to the ECK, you start with small dosage of it till you are able to stand it's power...l am not speaking of the showmanship done in pulpits nowadays done in the name of showing the power of God. The blinding light of Saul in the Bible is an example...
The word "Eckankar" sends shivers down some spine while it causes other reactions from person to person, thanks to folklores, fear, and outright misdirection by especially Christians and of course the internet.
The word 'Eckankar' had become to most Christians what the name of Jesus was supposed to be to a demon...ironical! very ironical especially if you grasp that the high point and effort of Jesus Christ was to connect people to the Holy Spirit otherwise known as ECK--The Holy Spirit, Logos, Bani, Ruh etc.
To be continued...
|Re: Christians Will Be Cool With ECKANKAR If... by chieveboy(m): 9:31pm On Dec 30, 2019|
A guy was once instructed to follow a girl to an Assemblies of God church by a voice. At first he wondered, a girl? Is God now asking him to chase women? Abnormal was the instruction but obey he did. He attempted toasting the babe along the way...
He soon found out it was about a Holy Ghost Convention going to hold in a couple of weeks ahead in the church. On the day of the convention during the prayer session, he said a Holy Saint appeared with a very illumined countenance and touched his forehead with a rod of light which felt like thousands of electric volts burning his whole body. He exclaimed in an unearthly tongue which he too did not know the meaning of...
Although his baptism of the Holy Ghost happened in a church, he remarked he didn't last a week in that church because what he experienced "was not a church thing".
This is a classic experience of an encounter with the Holy Spirit, like the ones the disciples of Jesus had in the upper room. Contrary to what religious folks would have you think, a personal encounter with God via the Holy Spirit is never a religious phenomena. Not Eckankar (as a religion), not Islam, not Christianity!
|Re: Christians Will Be Cool With ECKANKAR If... by Subduer: 10:14pm On Dec 30, 2019|
No Christian will EVER JOIN eckanka. NEVER
|Re: Christians Will Be Cool With ECKANKAR If... by chieveboy(m): 7:39pm On Dec 31, 2019|
The teachings of Eckankar rather focus on people awakening to their true identities as Souls than converting people. The teachings of Eckankar are not really the teachings of Eckankar any more than the sun worshipers do not own the sun.
I was at Deeper life, Christ Embassy, ECWA, Lutheran, etc.
A prayer warrior from Mountain of Fire just joined after push came to shove for her spiritually. She was merely given the HU to sing...if she was to go back to Christianity, she won't fit in anymore having experienced heaven firsthand, rather than only reading and being told about it.
The high path is for ready souls, hence we know the futility of trying to convert people when there are not ready. This thread is not to for the crowd. It will mark time till a ready soul out there is directed to it.
|Re: Christians Will Be Cool With ECKANKAR If... by Bluezy13(m): 12:14am On Jan 01|
Please, tell me a practical brief history of Eckankar before Paul Twitchell in 1965.
Does it mean Eckankar as a belief was not in existence before 1965 ??
|Re: Christians Will Be Cool With ECKANKAR If... by chieveboy(m): 8:52pm On Jan 02|
Eckankar originally is not a religion, even now. It is a name of a Practice, just like you have Yoga Kungfu, skydiving etc. When Paul reestablished the teachings, he didn't run it as a religion either till the USA policies necessitated Eckankar be registered as a Not for profit organization and then later as a religion...for the books.
What then is Eckankar? It is reestablishing man's connection with the Holy Spirit which we know manifests as light or sound towards self-realization (as a divine spark) and unto God-realization. The practice had been known with so many names and was originally from the planet Venus.
There had been over 900 line of an unbroken chain of Living ECK Masters (Spiritual Leaders) since man migrated to earth. Some where popular like Pythagoras, Shams (teacher of Rumi the Persian poet), Rumi, Saint Francis of Asisi and others who worked with only a handful of students who were ready and sometimes with a large crowd.
As you can see, Rumi and Shams are Muslims, Saint Francis of Asisi a Catholic... The catch then about Eckankar is your mastery of the ways of the Holy Spirit regardless of your religion, and also how much detached Love you can generate amidst negativity.
The Holy Spirit and the high things of God are never and will never ever be a matter of religion, regardless that religions a built around them. Thanks.
|Re: Christians Will Be Cool With ECKANKAR If... by Bluezy13(m): 12:22am On Jan 04|
Since Eckankar was originally not a religion.
And the Masters you mentioned where religious interdenominational;
When the USA policy demanded it be registered as a Religion, why didn't Paul refuse knowing fully well that registering it as a religion will give rise to religious diversity, segregation and fanatism in which a Catholic would not want to associate with an Eckankar faithful etc. thereby narrowing it's spread and painting it an inferior religion by some people ??
For instance; Yoga is not regarded as a religion and it is still being practiced all over the world by different people of various religious affiliations. The US would have as well mandated Yoga to be registered as a religion.
I think that if all you've explained is true...a fact... without an underlining secret... registering Eckankar as a religion, whether for the books or as mandated by the governing policy; It has done more harm than good.
It should have been allowed to remain open like Yoga without any religious undertone or doctrine.
Please I would like to have a reference link or source of your explanation
|Re: Christians Will Be Cool With ECKANKAR If... by chieveboy(m): 1:56am On Jan 04|
You sure made interesting observations which right now is a hot subject among some Eckists. Iran has some of the spiritually advances Souls on earth. The matter had caused a division of some sorts in especially Iran which has a very high number of Eckists. Eckankar flourished there so much that seminars, book fares etc were held openly by Iranians.
This went underground after Eckankar's tag by Paul as "The Science of Soul Travel" was changed to the "Religion of the Light and Sound of God" by the current leader. The Iranian government rounded up anyone practicing that just because of the "religion" in the tag, they would not have any other religion other than Islam. This saw a lot of imprisonment and executions in Iran.
The tag had now been changed to the "Path of Spiritual Freedom" which really represents the mainstay of the teachings.
Talking about Paul refusing, there was about 2- 3 things involved. After the teachings were revoked from the open during the time the church used deadly means to thwart truth or any spiritual information which was threat to the existence of the church as ruling system, the pure teachings and ways of the Holy Spirit went underground and latter became scattered and later lost or reduced to some of the crude rituals, practices, religions and dogmas you have circulating now in almost all of the place like the music or ringing of bells in church, witchcraft, sorcery, yoga, scriptures, water baptism, oracles, fortune telling, astral projection, cultures, doctrines etc.
Paul was to gather these teachings, remove the cultural trappings or outright distortions as the case may be and then restore them to their original or purer states and so on.
He also has to gather these teachings under one roof. This means a physical organization was necessary, but then to run an organization, you have to pay taxes...so tax and government regulation was what Paul beat by registering it as a religion. This was the last resort for him and a good one really because taxes were almost grounding him. This is yet the case even now.
Who would have thought the power of the Holy Spirit needed grounding (as in electrical engineering)? On and for Terra (earth), the temple of ECK in Chanhassen Minnesota USA plays that part whether this is recognized or not. Same role anyone who is the spiritual leader of Eckankar plays. The present one was a Lutheran pastor in the making before his arrest like Saul in the Bible. The qualifier is always the purest love for God and creation, not religion. He can give anyone the pure water of the Holy Spirit--not him as a person though, but as the primary tool of the ECK, the Holy Spirit. This means unlike yoga, Eckankar needs the buildings and the leaders.
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