salford1:

Canada belongs to the first Nation aka aboriginal aka real Americans. The ones the British used to refer to as Indians.

I have been told to go back to the jungle I came from in Africa a number of times in the UK but never in Canada, because everyone that is not first Nation is an immigrant or descendant of an immigrants.

Here in Canada, we all lead the way.

Not saying Canada is a perfect or model first world country, but atleast we identify and acknowledge faults and problems and try to fix same. But the British, they won't even accept that something is bad and would use words to downplay stuffs.

As per the naija stuff. That is a story for another day

sassysure:

U be immigrant, when chips are down, the owners of the land will lead the way.

So also when blacks in America, Britain or other European or whatever country aside sub Saharan Africa make mouth anyhow when it comes to politics, they lead, we follow.

If u want to make mouth,enter naija and the coast is clear for u
Even in naija, I'm not sure we have voice anymore

crackkhaus:

See this newbie.
You most certainly arrived Canada within the last 10years & already forming landlord.

Go ask your seniors who got there in the 80s, 90s and early 2000s, let them tell you what they had to hear and go through in the hands of Canadians, worse things than you can ever imagine.

Imagine a former refugee becoming the chief landlord

salford1:

Atleast, Canada identified a race problem and fixed it, and still trying hard to fix them or whatever reminants that are left. The "senior" Nigerians I met here are all successful in their careers and are doing well.
Our last minister of immigration,.Ahmed Hussein was a Somalian refugee that moved to Canada in 1994. Imagine a former refugee becoming the chief landlord

I have never felt more at home since I moved here. I am a bonafide landlord. No more hostility like I felt when I lived in Britain.

crackkhaus:

Okay landlord, no issue there.

I only just needed you to admit that bit in bold, instead of making it seem to those who don't know better, that Canada is the most racially equal country on earth.

Save it mahn...

salford1:

At least we are far ahead of Britain, that was my point

crackkhaus:

Sure, in producing maple syrup.

salford1:

Nothing wrong with maple syrup. We and our American cousins love it.

salford1:

Canada belongs to the first Nation aka aboriginal aka real Americans. The ones the British used to refer to as Indians.

I have been told to go back to the jungle I came from in Africa a number of times in the UK but never in Canada, because everyone that is not first Nation is an immigrant or descendant of an immigrants.

Here in Canada, we all lead the way.

Not saying Canada is a perfect or model first world country, but atleast we identify and acknowledge faults and problems and try to fix same. But the British, they won't even accept that something is bad and would use words to downplay stuffs.

As per the naija stuff. That is a story for another day

sassysure:

I live and work in UK but I have never been told to to back to any jungle. Once, one of my kids was called coconut head bc he barbed off all his hair by one of his classmates and he was very unfortunate to say it close to my hearing.
The mum shed all the tears in river Thames that day cos she thought I will report her boy and it's close to expulsion if not expulsion instantly.
I school in UK too.

The only diff is that they expected( especially in school) that we don't have something in our head.
But in my class, the blacks there are showing them pepper. These are people that left school maybe 10 yrs ago.

I have been to the mall in my early days in UK like twice and had problem with my purchase, money and stuffs.
Both times, British people next to me thought I needed those stuffs but don't have money to pay for them as I just abandoned them and went out to clear my head, one tried to pay for them, another ran after me and stuffed 10pounds bill in my hand. Had to run back and gave her the money back after convincing her I don't actually need those stuffs immediately and can still buy them if I want to.

My husband's landlady when he moved over was a brit, when he got his own place, this lady equipped his house from start to finish except fridge and washing machine and tv. The guy don't know how to say no to her.
Subtly told her I want to replace some so she won't feel offended and shipped them to charity.

She bought lots of designer wears for me, and when we arrived, made us feel at home with her kindness.
I had to insist she stop at a time cos I'm not used to that.
So will i say now they are bad?

Every country has their good and bad.

And yes, u all model yourself after British. Britain paved way for women revolution. Almost all first world country look up to them. Without Britain, we would still be answering our husbands sir.

U will not win this at all.
I made my research very well.

(I love Canada o, don't get me wrong) but every country has their strength and weakness.
Don't try to rubbish Britain cos u wanna massage your ego

salford1:

My ego
The majority of black Britons know better.
I schooled in Manchester and my experience was different. Told to go back to my country a couple of times. I should have asked which one then sef. (Nigeria, Ghana or Austria) but I was young then?
A Polish would not have been told to FO based on the colour of his skin.

Another woman almost hit myself and my cousin in a bus in Dagenham. (My cousin has same complexion like Meghan). The offence was that their were lots of non white in the bus, and she was so angry and bitter.

sassysure:


I just told u my experience, everybody have their own experiences.

Just like the one I posted about Canada.

So until I suffer racist attack, I still remain neutral.

U hate Britain and don't want to see anything good about brit. So also some people will tell you confidently that Canada is very racist subtly. Infact from.what I have been reading so far, Canada tend to sweep such under the carpet. Exactly like u are doing. And show the world what they want to see.

salford1:

I admitted that Canada has it's own problem too, but atleast they are making serious effort to fix the racial problems, but Britons try too hard to downplay and act like they don't have a race issues. A good example was the video posted earlier on this thread.

please don't get me wrong, I do not hate Britain. All my siblings live in Britain. I was just an outcast that decided to move away. I felt the country was holding me back from reaching my full potential.

Is BNP still a significant political party in Britain? When I left the UK in 2012, they had strongholds in Barking/Dagenham and some other London borough.

I was also appalled when I visited the UK last summer (my first visit since I left). I was shopping around Oxford and somehow found myself in a free Tommy Robinson protest .
Like seriously, in 2019

I had to take pictures to show my work colleagues of Britain in 2019. . They were shocked. I felt like a tourist and also was a bit shocked to be honest i.e. seeing a bunch of racists having the guts to lead a protest in broad daylight . This would have been a norm to me in previous years.

I still miss Britain though, and the craziness that goes on there, the pomp and circumstance marches played at events, the crazy football fans (especially when there is a champions league match played at home), the aroma from the fish and chips shops, the kebabs etc. I have promised myself that I would visit atleast once every year. Canada can be very boring due to the cold and, the peeps here being so laid back.

Rule, Britannia!

crackkhaus:

Surely you must realize that when people don't like you, it really won't matter if you're doing nothing wrong, they would still find a way to make you look bad.

The bias against Meghan was watered by none other but herself. You can see one of the articles you posted called her 'dictatorial', they may not be far from the truth.

I followed the whole ruckus leading up to their wedding in 2018 up until the wedding itself. You should not take my word for it though, you could make some findings on your own regarding just how much she tried to break almost every protocol regarding how the wedding should go.
A lot of things were changed/altered just to accommodate her preferences - from the flower choices, to the aisle leading up to the alter that was made wider because it's what she wanted, etc.. There was a lot more which I can't even recall off the top of my head.

Now no one is saying she couldn't have creative control over her own wedding, but when you marry into a monarchy that has a certain way of doing things in keeping with age-long traditions as old as her own ancestors, then she probably should have simmered down a little. She got what she wanted most of the time because the monarchy were happy enough to make Diana's little boy happy, but she took it too far and got used to it.
After the wedding, she kept trying to get them to do things her way and most of the time she would get it, but guess what, the British people only resented her for it because she was now effectually implying that their ways of doing things was not good enough for her, her own way was better...it wasn't just an emotional bride trying to make her wedding day perfect anymore, this was a woman who had no respect for the Monarchy and its ways. She confirmed what they already suspected and gave oxygen and water to the bias already working against her. And to make it worse, she was not even that big a celebrity in Hollywood in the first place.

This kind of resentment will obviously make them troll her at every given opportunity...no one holds a grudge more than the British.

If say, a single never divorced well brought-up Beyoncé (still black and American) was the one who married into the royal family, she may even get a softer landing than Meghan. If a Beyoncé DIL wanted the Queen MIL to dance single ladies inside Buckingham Palace, she may have gotten away with it, just because she is a Beyoncé. Get my point?

Meghan already had everything working against her from the start - previous failed marriage, dysfunctional family set-up, being biracial, and an American actress (not even an A-list, which may have been a plus). The least she could have done to warm her way into the hearts and minds of the British people, is to at least appear that she gave a shit about the way things are done.

I'm NOT sorry to type this, but I will because it is what it is:
Meghan did not do Windsor a favor by marrying Harry, Windsor in fact did her a favor by allowing her become a part of their family and she should have acted accordingly and not take a mile when given an inch.

It's what it is.

sassysure:

The first sentence is what I want to hear.

No where is bed of roses but some places are better.

sassysure:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/23/opinion/trudeau-canada-election-racism.amp.html&ved=2ahUKEwjxotaei5XnAhUHZMAKHXWeAdgQFjADegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw2FiXXInau5yS470aXm8TyW&ampcf=1

Salford1,no country is perfect

sassysure:
https://www.theguardian.com › ...
Canada is overdue for a reckoning with its anti-black racism | Tayo Bero | Opinion | The ...

My point is that the grass is always greener on the other side.

yeyeosoronga:
An interesting perspective from Phrankleen here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E632E82hVk

Parablesonmarble:


Reserve your unity preaching for the marauding Fulani herdsmen and just spare me. It has not worked for sixty years and you think we don't need a review?! In your mind, this right here is working, huh? Its because its broken that we asking for a fix. You think people just develop this kind of mentality overnight? Teach us how to prosper as a nation so we can learn. I maintain, I've got absolutely no business with the reality soap happening in England. I'm more concerned about this contraption called Nigeria. Just this morning, it was reported that another problem between the natives and the Fulanis is loading in Kogi with about 3-5 valuable Nigerian lives lost already. Are we gonna go on this way without doing something to stop the rot except verbally encouraging ourselves to learn to live together while entertaining ourselves with the fiasco in the palace as a distraction from the painful reality of our existence? For me its a no-no. If drifting apart will preserve more lives than remaining united, so be it. After all, no one is indispensable and every single live matters. If you've ever lost a loved one to the pervasive insecurity in this country, I doubt you will still be mouthing unity. If you want to preach unity to me, come to me with facts and figures of what is being done and the advantages of staying united in view of the overwhelming evidences and disadvantages of staying together.

sweetrace:


Marriage is certainly not a favor. Meghan has her own money, celebrity status and following even before she got married to a member of the British family. Every bride wants things done her way at her wedding. Even those that can’t rub two cents together. Meghan is not an exception.

As for being a divorcée, it does not make her subhuman. It probably makes her a more mature individual. And what is the comparison with Beyoncé? Please?

Oh and you’re absolutely wrong. Meghan Markle is a first rate actress. That you don’t know or follow her does not mean you should even consider reducing her worth. She does not need the money or fame from the royal family. What she needed and asked for was acceptance and not to mold her into anyone’s concept of a princess. She adhered to major rules, and things that were insignificant, she like most members of the royal family did not bother with.

Agree or not, from the very days of their courtship, her being mixed race was a very big deal with some members of the British public and not even the royal family. Most often, when people’s minds are made up, there is practically nothing one can do to change it. They did not want the black part of her and made no effort to hide this. Thankfully, the most important person in her life understands her and supports her.

baby124:

Yes Na. That guy doesn’t know how the system works. He’s just reading Oyinbo newspaper and getting his boxers in a twist. Talking about contexts he doesn’t understand. Kate is a commoners daughter. Even her net worth is not from her but her father. Meghan worked for everything she has. So what if she divorced that numbskull she married?

The girl stood, married a prince against all odds and tried to live in that evil society. How can over 1 million people be hating at the same damn time . She finally decided that enough. Harry actually and they decided to live a quiet life to give their family a chance. But these fake negroes are here saying that she’s this and that. The marriage won’t work. If it won’t work, that’s their business. They gave it a good try so that’s very good for them.

crackkhaus:

Lol, girl we have gone way past that comment.. but please, allow me welcome you to the party.
It's never too late to get intoxicated.

So how do you like your drink baby?

Cocktail with a slice of racism, or some Chapman with a tinge of arrogance?

sweetrace:

Please stop being patronizing. It is ridiculous and demeaning. On a nameless and faceless forum you address one as girl? You can choose to address the points I raised or ignore them completely. But to be patronizing??

crackkhaus:

Surely you must realize that when people don't like you, it really won't matter if you're doing nothing wrong, they would still find a way to make you look bad.

The bias against Meghan was watered by none other but herself. You can see one of the articles you posted called her 'dictatorial', they may not be far from the truth.

I followed the whole ruckus leading up to their wedding in 2018 up until the wedding itself. You should not take my word for it though, you could make some findings on your own regarding just how much she tried to break almost every protocol regarding how the wedding should go.
A lot of things were changed/altered just to accommodate her preferences - from the flower choices, to the aisle leading up to the alter that was made wider because it's what she wanted, etc.. There was a lot more which I can't even recall off the top of my head.

Now no one is saying she couldn't have creative control over her own wedding, but when you marry into a monarchy that has a certain way of doing things in keeping with age-long traditions as old as her own ancestors, then she probably should have simmered down a little. She got what she wanted most of the time because the monarchy were happy enough to make Diana's little boy happy, but she took it too far and got used to it.
After the wedding, she kept trying to get them to do things her way and most of the time she would get it, but guess what, the British people only resented her for it because she was now effectually implying that their ways of doing things was not good enough for her, her own way was better...it wasn't just an emotional bride trying to make her wedding day perfect anymore, this was a woman who had no respect for the Monarchy and its ways. She confirmed what they already suspected and gave oxygen and water to the bias already working against her. And to make it worse, she was not even that big a celebrity in Hollywood in the first place.

This kind of resentment will obviously make them troll her at every given opportunity...no one holds a grudge more than the British.

If say, a single never divorced well brought-up Beyoncé (still black and American) was the one who married into the royal family, she may even get a softer landing than Meghan. If a Beyoncé DIL wanted the Queen MIL to dance single ladies inside Buckingham Palace, she may have gotten away with it, just because she is a Beyoncé. Get my point?

Meghan already had everything working against her from the start - previous failed marriage, dysfunctional family set-up, being biracial, and an American actress (not even an A-list, which may have been a plus). The least she could have done to warm her way into the hearts and minds of the British people, is to at least appear that she gave a shit about the way things are done.

I'm NOT sorry to type this, but I will because it is what it is:
Meghan did not do Windsor a favor by marrying Harry, Windsor in fact did her a favor by allowing her become a part of their family and she should have acted accordingly and not take a mile when given an inch.

It's what it is.

Chi59:

You care. That's why you're frying your balls over another person's decision.

LewsTherin:
Usually, I couldn't care less about the Royal Family. They fill in blank spaces on my news feed. But seeing the amount of shtick Harry and Meghan have been getting for wanting to move on without the burden of the Royal Family and all its accoutrements, I read up on a few stories and came across some massively biased reporting.

Not everything is as it seems, and everything is definitely coloured according to the reporter's bias. Yes, pun intended.

Check out some reports of Meghan doing the same thing as Kate and ask yourself why Harry is pissed.

Hotfreez:
Did she divorce her former husband because of racism too?

Is that racism that made Meghan have issues with her biological father and her own family too?
How many of her family members did you see at her wedding? Tell me.

Megan's former husband dumped her and ran. Her father ran, her own family ran.
Shebi it is towtow that isn't allowing Harry reason straight, she would wreck him and dump him.

sassysure:

I live and work in UK but I have never been told to to back to any jungle. Once, one of my kids was called coconut head bc he barbed off all his hair by one of his classmates and he was very unfortunate to say it close to my hearing.
The mum shed all the tears in river Thames that day cos she thought I will report her boy and it's close to expulsion if not expulsion instantly.
I school in UK too.

The only diff is that they expected( especially in school) that we don't have something in our head.
But in my class, the blacks there are showing them pepper. These are people that left school maybe 10 yrs ago.

I have been to the mall in my early days in UK like twice and had problem with my purchase, money and stuffs.
Both times, British people next to me thought I needed those stuffs but don't have money to pay for them as I just abandoned them and went out to clear my head, one tried to pay for them, another ran after me and stuffed 10pounds bill in my hand. Had to run back and gave her the money back after convincing her I don't actually need those stuffs immediately and can still buy them if I want to.

My husband's landlady when he moved over was a brit, when he got his own place, this lady equipped his house from start to finish except fridge and washing machine and tv. The guy don't know how to say no to her.
Subtly told her I want to replace some so she won't feel offended and shipped them to charity.

She bought lots of designer wears for me, and when we arrived, made us feel at home with her kindness.
I had to insist she stop at a time cos I'm not used to that.
So will i say now they are bad?

Every country has their good and bad.

And yes, u all model yourself after British. Britain paved way for women revolution. Almost all first world country look up to them. Without Britain, we would still be answering our husbands sir.

U will not win this at all.
I made my research very well.

(I love Canada o, don't get me wrong) but every country has their strength and weakness.
Don't try to rubbish Britain cos u wanna massage your ego

crackkhaus:

While some of you are busy forming happy on their behalf, the Prince says the opposite and expressed how he truly feels about the whole situation.

How you or anyone can be happy for someone who is deeply saddened, is beyond all human comprehension.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55OQ7aC7hW4