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Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 8:01am On Mar 29
Maximus69:


You're now turning the table ooooooo! wink

My question is about Sabbath not those ones Sir!

A Christian who LOVE JEHOVAH will always do things that will not bring REPROACH to his holy name.

None of those things you mentioned bring praise to our Creator, so one who LOVE JEHOVAH will always try to abstain from all that! wink

But your pigheaded Sabbatical rule of a special day is what i'm asking you NOT those ones that God's holy spirit have helped us to map out as no go area! Act 15:26-29 cheesy


If those other 9 are compulsory than the sabbath must also be compulsory.

If not God would not have bothered to include it.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Maximus69(m): 8:05am On Mar 29
blueAgent:


Pure Crap.
Jesus is referring to all his followers weather gentiles or Jews, weather present or future.

Miracles are taking place everyday in peoples lives. am a witness,
you would not know it because your cult does not have the presence of God.

You're turning the table again ooooooo! wink

If it's about daily miracles, God does it for everyone living whether good or evil Sir! Matthew 5:45

What we are saying is, you LAYING YOUR FILTHY HAND ON Covid19 PATIENT AND GETTING THEM HEALED as you said Jesus promised his followers {Mark 16:17} NOT WHAT GOD DOES FOR ALL HIS CREATURES ON DAILY BASIS.

You Confused Dullard and Liar! cheesy
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Maximus69(m): 8:19am On Mar 29
blueAgent:



If those other 9 are compulsory than the sabbath must also be compulsory.

If not God would not have bothered to include it.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

Mr 10 commandments, humble yourself and learn!

God's laws as presented to the Israelites were over 600, God purposely wrote the first ten with his own fingers to prove that he is the one demanding obedience to all the rest, secondly a toddler or foreigner who just came to Israel can't memorize all the 600, so the 10 must be inculcated in his/her minds before he could be granted a stay amongst the Israelites.

But there are rules included to teach them important things, the Sabbath was purposely included to teach them that everyone needs to rest at least for a day {Exodus 23:12} their animals (used for laborious works) slaves and maids will have at least one day to rest!

That's why God told them to separate that day for him, today a Christian who LOVE God will know that if he need rest his workers must also be allowed to have day to rest, as for worship Jesus said that one will be done in spirit and in truth. John 4:24

So the showy display of sacred services on a special day becomes OBSOLETE.

That's what we're saying here Sir! cheesy
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by orunto27: 9:58am On Mar 29
Still searching for a Clue? Try this.

Righteousness goes to Heaven.
Selfishness goes to Hell.
The Two are SPIRITS.
AND THEY HAVE BODIES AND SOULS.


Got that?
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 10:10pm On Mar 29
Maximus69:


Mr 10 commandments, humble yourself and learn!

God's laws as presented to the Israelites were over 600, God purposely wrote the first ten with his own fingers to prove that he is the one demanding obedience to all the rest, secondly a toddler or foreigner who just came to Israel can't memorize all the 600, so the 10 must be inculcated in his/her minds before he could be granted a stay amongst the Israelites.

But there are rules included to teach them important things, the Sabbath was purposely included to teach them that everyone needs to rest at least for a day {Exodus 23:12} their animals (used for laborious works) slaves and maids will have at least one day to rest!

That's why God told them to separate that day for him, today a Christian who LOVE God will know that if he need rest his workers must also be allowed to have day to rest, as for worship Jesus said that one will be done in spirit and in truth. John 4:24

So the showy display of sacred services on a special day becomes OBSOLETE.

That's what we're saying here Sir! cheesy

See story telling.

I wonder how you can twist God's word and still sleep well at night?
It shows your conscience is dead.

Let assume we fellow your false interpretation.
1. That means we are still expected to obey the 600laws.

Romans 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.




2. It also mean that God intends to write the 600laws in our hearts as part of the new covenant.

Hebrews 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;


3. it also mean that we will need to keep all the 600laws for us to enter Heaven.
Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.


The reason given for God set the sabbath apart is that it makes the end of his creation and it points to God as the creator of all things.

You can see that your excuse based on rest it false.





Another misinformed Interpretations.
What do you know to worship God in spirit and truth means?
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 10:13pm On Mar 29
Maximus69:


You're now turning the table ooooooo! wink

My question is about Sabbath not those ones Sir!

A Christian who LOVE JEHOVAH will always do things that will not bring REPROACH to his holy name.

None of those things you mentioned bring praise to our Creator, so one who LOVE JEHOVAH will always try to abstain from all that! wink

But your pigheaded Sabbatical rule of a special day is what i'm asking you NOT those ones that God's holy spirit have helped us to map out as no go area! Act 15:26-29 cheesy




Compare this 2 verses.

Nehemiah 9:13 Thou camest down also upon mount Sinai, and spakest with them from heaven, and gavest them right judgments, and true laws, good statutes and commandments:

Daniel 9:10 Neither have we obeyed the voice of the LORD our God, to walk in his laws, which he set before us by his servants the prophets.

Here the law of Moses prescribes punishment for the sinner that is those who transgress the 10commandments.

Daniel 9:11 Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him.


The sabbath is called God's sabbath and it is Called holy.

Nehemiah 9:14 And madest known unto them thy holy sabbath, and commandedst them precepts, statutes, and laws, by the hand of Moses thy servant:
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 10:15pm On Mar 29
Maximus69:


You're turning the table again ooooooo! wink

If it's about daily miracles, God does it for everyone living whether good or evil Sir! Matthew 5:45

What we are saying is, you LAYING YOUR FILTHY HAND ON Covid19 PATIENT AND GETTING THEM HEALED as you said Jesus promised his followers {Mark 16:17} NOT WHAT GOD DOES FOR ALL HIS CREATURES ON DAILY BASIS.

You Confused Dullard and Liar! cheesy

So you admit God does miracles everyday.
Now who mentioned Covid-19?

Did Jesus mention Covid-19 in that Bible verse.

why bring it into this topic?

For miracles I have seen someone who was completely mad for years become healed after prayers.

I have Seen someone with Full blown Aids totally healed.

I have seen patients with Kidney sickness getting healed.

People with Cancer and heart problems getting healed.

Just this week someone testified on Salvation Ministry how God healed him of Covid-19.

I have witnessed my younger brother pour petrol not knowing it was petrol into a stove and lamp and both could not light.

Only for him to go outside to check the product poured it on rags and it immediately it cut fire.
10litres of petrol refused to lit even with naked flame. That same petrol was used in a car.

Back then in School my hostel was attacked by the youths of the community during students community clash.
And among 24rooms only my room was spared not because I knew anyone neither was I or any student there to save the Hostel, it was just by divine grace and prayer.
Note: the entire Hostel was vacated that morning after we had they were coming

So if you think miracles have stopped than you must be a toddler or you have brain issues.

Although am not surprise your cult lacks God's presence so miracles can never take place.
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 10:17pm On Mar 29
Maximus69:


You're now turning the table ooooooo! wink

My question is about Sabbath not those ones Sir!

A Christian who LOVE JEHOVAH will always do things that will not bring REPROACH to his holy name.

None of those things you mentioned bring praise to our Creator, so one who LOVE JEHOVAH will always try to abstain from all that! wink

But your pigheaded Sabbatical rule of a special day is what i'm asking you NOT those ones that God's holy spirit have helped us to map out as no go area! Act 15:26-29 cheesy
.


If you heard sense you will know that the reason we keep the Sabbath day is not to suit us but to obey God. It is not debatable.

God's punishment was stoning to death for breaking the other 9commandments and it is the same punishment that God prescribes for those who break the sabbath day.
That means it is not a small offense to God neither does he see it as a less offense than the other 9.
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 10:21pm On Mar 29
orunto27:
Still searching for a Clue? Try this.
Righteousness goes to Heaven. Selfishness goes to Hell. The Two are SPIRITS. AND THEY HAVE BODIES AND SOULS.

Got that?

As written in your fantasy book.
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 10:22pm On Mar 29
Maximus69:


What we are saying is ALL GOD'S LAWS PRESENTED TO THE ISRAELITES ARE EQUAL, IF YOU BREAK ONE YOU'VE BROKEN ALL! cheesy

So are we still under obligation to mount all those laws in our brains?

That's the question Sir! cheesy


You keep parroting 600laws yet am sure you cannot mention the laws or prove them.

Were is it written that all the 600laws are equal and must be kept by all the Israelites and people?

Are all the laws in Nigeria pertaining to you?
Are the laws governing artists relevant to you if you are not an artist?

The laws of Moses governing the office of priesthood and Levites was it meant for the entire Israelites?
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Maximus69(m): 10:28pm On Mar 29
blueAgent:


See story telling.

I wonder how you can twist God's word and still sleep well at night?
It shows your conscience is dead.

Let assume we fellow your false interpretation.
1. That means we are still expected to obey the 600laws.

Romans 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.




2. It also mean that God intends to write the 600laws in our hearts as part of the new covenant.

Hebrews 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;


3. it also mean that we will need to keep all the 600laws for us to enter Heaven.
Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.


The reason given for God set the sabbath apart is that it makes the end of his creation and it points to God as the creator of all things.

You can see that your excuse based on rest it false.





Another misinformed Interpretations.
What do you know to worship God in spirit and truth means?

This is how to know people whose ego and self pride will lead them to destruction!

Am i the one who explain what the Sabbath meant or God himself! cheesy

@ Exodus 23:12 God himself said the reason why he issued such order is for people to allow their domestic staffs and beasts of burden to rest!

If you're not of the devil deceiving your own soul, haven't i told you before that all those laws had been summarized into LOVE?

You were arguing like a madman back then, now you're quoting Roman 13:9 saying exactly what i've told you few weeks back that you were blindly arguing against back then! cheesy

My friend i've told you, if you want to argue i will allow you and your cohorts to continue dribbling yourselves, just don't quote me because i'll make you start speaking against yourself after all your stupid blind arguments! cheesy
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Maximus69(m): 10:39pm On Mar 29
blueAgent:





Compare this 2 verses.

Nehemiah 9:13 Thou camest down also upon mount Sinai, and spakest with them from heaven, and gavest them right judgments, and true laws, good statutes and commandments:

Daniel 9:10 Neither have we obeyed the voice of the LORD our God, to walk in his laws, which he set before us by his servants the prophets.

Here the law of Moses prescribes punishment for the sinner that is those who transgress the 10commandments.

Daniel 9:11 Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him.


The sabbath is called God's sabbath and it is Called holy.

Nehemiah 9:14 And madest known unto them thy holy sabbath, and commandedst them precepts, statutes, and laws, by the hand of Moses thy servant:

See confirmed madness o! cheesy

I said you claim people who go against Sabbath will go to hell.

You stupidly started denying you never said so.

Later you said whatever makes the other 9 laws mentioned in the first ten commandments also means the Sabbath is compulsory. After thorough scrutiny you changed again saying God won't roast people in your imaginary hellfire simply because of Sabbath day.

Now you're quoting the Old Testament again.

Please try to be consistent and straight forward for once Sir.

My question again to you is

What will happen to faithful people who do not worship on Saturday (Sabbath), will they gain God's approval for their virtuous deeds or they must worship on Saturday? cheesy

Settle this one first before jumping to any other topic again, and if you don't know simply say so! cheesy
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Maximus69(m): 10:49pm On Mar 29
blueAgent:


So you admit God does miracles everyday.
Now who mentioned Covid-19?

Did Jesus mention Covid-19 in that Bible verse.

why bring it into this topic?

For miracles I have seen someone who was completely mad for years become healed after prayers.

I have Seen someone with Full blown Aids totally healed.

I have seen patients with Kidney sickness getting healed.

People with Cancer and heart problems getting healed.

Just this week someone testified on Salvation Ministry how God healed him of Covid-19.

I have witnessed my younger brother pour petrol not knowing it was petrol into a stove and lamp and both could not light.

Only for him to go outside to check the product poured it on rags and it immediately it cut fire.
10litres of petrol refused to lit even with naked flame. That same petrol was used in a car.

Back then in School my hostel was attacked by the youths of the community during students community clash.
And among 24rooms only my room was spared not because I knew anyone neither was I or any student there to save the Hostel, it was just by divine grace and prayer.
Note: the entire Hostel was vacated that morning after we had they were coming


So if you think miracles have stopped than you must be a toddler or you have brain issues.

Although am not surprise your cult lacks God's presence so miracles can never take place.

The underlined Sir!

How come this your god suddenly turned powerless before Covid19?

Is Covid19 not a disease?

Why are you lying without shame like this?

If that your god has been doing all that, what exactly has gone wrong with it now that Covid19 is killing people to the extent worldly authorities ordered all places of worship to be closed, yet this your shameless god can't come out to defend itself. Don't this your useless god know that when it's place of worship is closed that's tantamount to saying Covid19 is more powerful than it? cheesy

My friend, STOP DECEIVING YOURSELF! cheesy
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Maximus69(m): 10:56pm On Mar 29
blueAgent:

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If you heard sense you will know that the reason we keep the Sabbath day is not to suit us but to obey God. It is not debatable.

God's punishment was stoning to death for breaking the other 9commandments and it is the same punishment that God prescribes for those who break the sabbath day.
That means it is not a small offense to God neither does he see it as a less offense than the other 9.

Walahi Talahi

You're a confirmed insane! cheesy

Please what will your stupid god do now to billions of people not worshiping on Saturday (Sabbath day) Sir? cheesy

You deny they won't go to hell and your hopeless god can't do a single thing to them now, so what is it going to do as 99% say they will NOT worship on Saturday? cheesy?
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Maximus69(m): 11:04pm On Mar 29
blueAgent:



You keep parroting 600laws yet am sure you cannot mention the laws or prove them.

Were is it written that all the 600laws are equal and must be kept by all the Israelites and people?

Are all the laws in Nigeria pertaining to you?
Are the laws governing artists relevant to you if you are not an artist?

The laws of Moses governing the office of priesthood and Levites was it meant for the entire Israelites?




See madness again! cheesy

The same God gave rules to a whole nation telling them it's a covenant between them and himself.

You are here saying it's not equal laws.

If you're not sick upstairs, do you think someone who is NOT from the lineage of the Levitical priesthood have any right to violate rules pertaining to the priestly office simply because he/she is not a priest?

My friend, go and sleep.

You're not a match for Jehovah's Witnesses.

Don't forget that Jehovah is coming with great anger and he is coming to destroy all those criticizing his people.

So be warned, if you're not with JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, you're DOOMED! embarassed
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by TATIME: 7:37am On Mar 30
Maximus69:


Walahi Talahi

You're a confirmed insane! cheesy

Please what will your stupid god do now to billions of people not worshiping on Saturday (Sabbath day) Sir? cheesy

You deny they won't go to hell and your hopeless god can't do a single thing to them now, so what is it going to do as 99% say they will NOT worship on Saturday? cheesy?

What point exactly is he trying to make?

If God said murder, idolatry, illicit sex, stealing, dishonouring elderly ones, false testimonies and false oath are forbidden. I think all these reflects in the way the first century Christians were organized. And anyone violating these will not inherit God's Kingdom~ Galatians 5:19-21

But what is the significance of Sabbath in all of these?
Is it not done away with once people now realize they must rest, allow their workers to rest and create time for sacred service?
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Maximus69(m): 9:40am On Mar 30
TATIME:


What point exactly is he trying to make?

If God said murder, idolatry, illicit sex, stealing, dishonouring elderly ones, false testimonies and false oath are forbidden. I think all these reflects in the way the first century Christians were organized. And anyone violating these will not inherit God's Kingdom~ Galatians 5:19-21

But what is the significance of Sabbath in all of these?
Is it not done away with once people now realize they must rest, allow their workers to rest and create time for sacred service?

He is suffering from shamelessness!

After realizing that his theory has been flawed, he's now struggling to mend his sinking ship! cheesy

He is saying~

"Sabbath must hold as part of the 10 commandments"

Simply because he's now confused on how to defend his claim that the 10 commandments is part of the laws that has been replaced by the two laws Jesus coined out of LOVE (Love for God and Neighbours). So he's now battling to smuggle Sabbath as a universal rule that all believers must keep, yet he's confused on whether his stupid god will keep defaulters of Sabbath alive to roast them forever or spare them!

Please he's just a Confused Dullard! cheesy
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by MuttleyLaff: 11:47pm On Mar 30
blueAgent:
Go through my previous post on the page before this and find my opinion on this case.
My dear brother, with the utmost respect, sorry for this "better late than never" post, its something like in the local parlance of "case of plenty water dey inside garri in bowl".

blueAgent, brother, I have in vain gone through your previous post on the page you suggested to go find your opinion on this case. I have also done a search using an "electricity" and even an "electric" string unsuccesfully. Results going back as far as three years plus without any related hit

Now because of my lack of successes, I am hereby repeating the two simple, easy, direct and straightforward question.

1/ Do you, on Saturday being Sabbath, flick on the electric switches in your home providing electricity coming from the national grid and managed or supplied by the local Electricity Distribution Company (DISCO), hmm?
2/ Have you considered that if you believe Saturday is Sabbath, and so is a sin to work on that day, then you're complicit in breaking the Sabbath through your making use of electricity generated by another person working on Saturday, erhn?

I believe both questions #1 and #2, require made simple, binary answers, which either will be just a: Yes or No.

I anxiously and patiently await your answers and thank you in advance for them.
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Acehart: 12:38pm On Mar 31
blueAgent:
What is rewarded at death?

*Body of Moses.
When Moses died the Bible tells us that Satan came to claim the body of Moses but he was resisted by an Angel of God.
Jude 1:9

Secondly it was not the Spirit of Moses and Elijah that appeared before Jesus, but it was  the ressurected body of Moses, and Elijah who did not experience death that appeared to Jesus. Luke 20:37,Matthew 17:2.

*Paul's words and teachings.

1 Corinthians 15:16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. 15:18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. 15:19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable. 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,


1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

1 Corinthians 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 15:43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.


In Conclusion.
The word of God is clear on this subject, it is the physical body of people, changed for the just and unchanged for the unjust  that is rewarded after judgement and not some imaginery spirit or soul.

Thank you.

Hello,

Your quotes are emphatic but your conclusion doesn’t meet the high standard with which your build up is set.

I’d like to ask the following questions based on your conclusion and topic :

1. What stage of death are you speaking of?
2. Hebrews 9:27 says, “And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment”: what part of man is judged?
3. If Michael and Satan contended for the body of Moses (Jude 9), what part of Moses appeared at Caesarea Phillipi? Also, what part of Elijah’s being ascends to heaven?
4. What part of Samuel’s being appeared to the witch at Endor?
5. When Jesus said: If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also; what part of man’s being goes to meet Christ where He is?
6. Could you talk about the “Souls” in Revelation 6:9, please?

Thank you.
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 9:52am On Apr 01
Maximus69:


See madness again! cheesy

The same God gave rules to a whole nation telling them it's a covenant between them and himself.

You are here saying it's not equal laws.

If you're not sick upstairs, do you think someone who is NOT from the lineage of the Levitical priesthood have any right to violate rules pertaining to the priestly office simply because he/she is not a priest?

My friend, go and sleep.

You're not a match for Jehovah's Witnesses.

Don't forget that Jehovah is coming with great anger and he is coming to destroy all those criticizing his people.

So be warned, if you're not with JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, you're DOOMED! embarassed

Rather than throw insults why not refute my arguments?

Is the law of priesthood and Levities to be applied to Judah's and the other 10 tribes?

Why do cannot violate it, are they given the office of priesthood or are they excepted to obey laws required for Levites only?

Yes its true am not match for JW with their lies and false prophecy.

I agree am no match.
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 10:01am On Apr 01
Maximus69:


Walahi Talahi

You're a confirmed insane! cheesy

Please what will your stupid god do now to billions of people not worshiping on Saturday (Sabbath day) Sir? cheesy

You deny they won't go to hell and your hopeless god can't do a single thing to them now, so what is it going to do as 99% say they will NOT worship on Saturday? cheesy?


So God is stupid?

Mind what you say, The sabbath was set apart by God, so when you insult the sabbath you insult God.

I said it before anyone who knowingly breaks the sabbath day will go to Hell.

The only one who can go to Heaven, is those who were ignorant about the truth concerning the human change of the sabbath day to Sunday.

but anyone who has the privilege of knowing the truth like you and still refuse to abide by God's command will wroth in Hell simple.
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 10:03am On Apr 01
Maximus69:


The underlined Sir!

How come this your god suddenly turned powerless before Covid19?

Is Covid19 not a disease?

Why are you lying without shame like this?

If that your god has been doing all that, what exactly has gone wrong with it now that Covid19 is killing people to the extent worldly authorities ordered all places of worship to be closed, yet this your shameless god can't come out to defend itself. Don't this your useless god know that when it's place of worship is closed that's tantamount to saying Covid19 is more powerful than it? cheesy

My friend, STOP DECEIVING YOURSELF! cheesy




Where in the Bible did God say there will be no sickness and diseases in this World before he comes?

Its a great insult to God, that I shared my testimonies and you called them a lie.

Before the end of this year you will cry to God for a miracle.
mark my word I do 't talk anyhow.
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 10:07am On Apr 01
Maximus69:


See confirmed madness o! cheesy

I said you claim people who go against Sabbath will go to hell.

You stupidly started denying you never said so.

Later you said whatever makes the other 9 laws mentioned in the first ten commandments also means the Sabbath is compulsory. After thorough scrutiny you changed again saying God won't roast people in your imaginary hellfire simply because of Sabbath day.

Now you're quoting the Old Testament again.

Please try to be consistent and straight forward for once Sir.

My question again to you is

What will happen to faithful people who do not worship on Saturday (Sabbath), will they gain God's approval for their virtuous deeds or they must worship on Saturday? cheesy

Settle this one first before jumping to any other topic again, and if you don't know simply say so! cheesy


Signs of defeat when you lose grounds you resort to insults.

Its obvious that your lies cannot hold water nor can they be proved In the Bible.

JW is a cult .
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 10:10am On Apr 01
Maximus69:


This is how to know people whose ego and self pride will lead them to destruction!

Am i the one who explain what the Sabbath meant or God himself! cheesy

@ Exodus 23:12 God himself said the reason why he issued such order is for people to allow their domestic staffs and beasts of burden to rest!

If you're not of the devil deceiving your own soul, haven't i told you before that all those laws had been summarized into LOVE?

You were arguing like a madman back then, now you're quoting Roman 13:9 saying exactly what i've told you few weeks back that you were blindly arguing against back then! cheesy

My friend i've told you, if you want to argue i will allow you and your cohorts to continue dribbling yourselves, just don't quote me because i'll make you start speaking against yourself after all your stupid blind arguments! cheesy

What is love?

How do you prove your love for God?


1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.


1 John 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

2 John 1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.


Lol.......ARE YOU NOT TIRED OF LIARING AGAINST GOD'S WORD?
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 10:14am On Apr 01
Maximus69:


See confirmed madness o! cheesy

I said you claim people who go against Sabbath will go to hell.

You stupidly started denying you never said so.

Later you said whatever makes the other 9 laws mentioned in the first ten commandments also means the Sabbath is compulsory. After thorough scrutiny you changed again saying God won't roast people in your imaginary hellfire simply because of Sabbath day.

Now you're quoting the Old Testament again.

Please try to be consistent and straight forward for once Sir.

My question again to you is

What will happen to faithful people who do not worship on Saturday (Sabbath), will they gain God's approval for their virtuous deeds or they must worship on Saturday? cheesy

Settle this one first before jumping to any other topic again, and if you don't know simply say so! cheesy

Why not post or quote what I wrote?

Why do you have to lie? is it because everything is against you?

I said those who ignorantly violated the sabbath command but who served God faithfully will go to Heaven.

but those who have knowledge of the truth abouth the sabbath and still break it cannot enter into Heaven.


Quote me and stop liaring against me.
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 10:17am On Apr 01
Maximus69:


This is how to know people whose ego and self pride will lead them to destruction!

Am i the one who explain what the Sabbath meant or God himself! cheesy

@ Exodus 23:12 God himself said the reason why he issued such order is for people to allow their domestic staffs and beasts of burden to rest!

If you're not of the devil deceiving your own soul, haven't i told you before that all those laws had been summarized into LOVE?

You were arguing like a madman back then, now you're quoting Roman 13:9 saying exactly what i've told you few weeks back that you were blindly arguing against back then! cheesy

My friend i've told you, if you want to argue i will allow you and your cohorts to continue dribbling yourselves, just don't quote me because i'll make you start speaking against yourself after all your stupid blind arguments! cheesy


Stop liaring against God.
This is the reason for the sabbath.

Exodus 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

Exodus 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Exodus 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.

Exodus 31:14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.

Exodus 31:15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.

Exodus 31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.

Exodus 35:2 Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.

No where it is called Man's sabbath or rest.rather it is called God's sabbath and Holy day.
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 10:22am On Apr 01
MuttleyLaff:
My dear brother, with the utmost respect, sorry for this "better late than never" post, its something like in the local parlance of "case of plenty water dey inside garri in bowl".

blueAgent, brother, I have in vain gone through your previous post on the page you suggested to go find your opinion on this case. I have also done a search using an "electricity" and even an "electric" string unsuccesfully. Results going back as far as three years plus without any related hit

Now because of my lack of successes, I am hereby repeating the two simple, easy, direct and straightforward question.

1/ Do you, on Saturday being Sabbath, flick on the electric switches in your home providing electricity coming from the national grid and managed or supplied by the local Electricity Distribution Company (DISCO), hmm?
2/ Have you considered that if you believe Saturday is Sabbath, and so is a sin to work on that day, then you're complicit in breaking the Sabbath through your making use of electricity generated by another person working on Saturday, erhn?

I believe both questions #1 and #2, require made simple, binary answers, which either will be just a: Yes or No.

I anxiously and patiently await your answers and thank you in advance for them.


Another point I want to get across to you is that, while God wants us to
observe the sabbath day, that is to cease from our own works and to
worship him.
He knows it cannot be perfectly done in this our fallen state.
E.g on a sabbath day it would be impossible for everyone to attend
service because there are certain professions that cannot stop working
24hrs 365days example the police force, oil refinery, Oil rigs offshore,
emergency personnel's e.t.c even the taxi one will board in order to get
to his or her Church will not be available if we all observed the sabbath
at the same time, that does not mean that Sunday is acceptable, No.
Rather am trying to show you the reality of the situation
Jesus knew about this that was why he rebuked the Pharisees who
questioned him for doing good(healing)on the sabbath day.
What God expects is that we try as much as possible to avoid work or
any activity that would cause us to miss the sabbath day.
Secondly work activities on the sabbath for unavoidable services can be
reduced to the smallest possible size.
Workers in such establishment can still pray together worship and praise
God.
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 10:23am On Apr 01
MuttleyLaff:
My dear brother, with the utmost respect, sorry for this "better late than never" post, its something like in the local parlance of "case of plenty water dey inside garri in bowl".

blueAgent, brother, I have in vain gone through your previous post on the page you suggested to go find your opinion on this case. I have also done a search using an "electricity" and even an "electric" string unsuccesfully. Results going back as far as three years plus without any related hit

Now because of my lack of successes, I am hereby repeating the two simple, easy, direct and straightforward question.

1/ Do you, on Saturday being Sabbath, flick on the electric switches in your home providing electricity coming from the national grid and managed or supplied by the local Electricity Distribution Company (DISCO), hmm?
2/ Have you considered that if you believe Saturday is Sabbath, and so is a sin to work on that day, then you're complicit in breaking the Sabbath through your making use of electricity generated by another person working on Saturday, erhn?

I believe both questions #1 and #2, require made simple, binary answers, which either will be just a: Yes or No.

I anxiously and patiently await your answers and thank you in advance for them.


Is it good to do good or evil on the sabbath day?
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Maximus69(m): 11:46am On Apr 01
blueAgent:



So God is stupid?

Mind what you say, The sabbath was set apart by God, so when you insult the sabbath you insult God.

I said it before anyone who knowingly breaks the sabbath day will go to Hell.

The only one who can go to Heaven, is those who were ignorant about the truth concerning the human change of the sabbath day to Sunday.

but anyone who has the privilege of knowing the truth like you and still refuse to abide by God's command will wroth in Hell simple.

In that case you need to stop all this pointless lengthy epistles of unwarranted arguments regarding soul, body or spirit going to your imaginary hell and go straight telling people that they will all go to your imaginary hellfire because they disagree with you to worship on Saturday! cheesy

If you're not insane for real, whether spirit, soul or body what matters is if they obey God's word, they will be favoured in the day of judgment.

So instead of arguing profusely like a mad man, just go straight telling MuttleyLaff, Shadeyinka and all your cohorts to stop Sunday worship and return to Saturday so that they will not end up in your imaginary Hell! cheesy

Confused Dullard! cheesy

Mind you what i've been saying has now become like a common line of thought, as you're also claiming now that only those who agree to worship on Saturday like you will go to your imaginary heaven.

But let me resound it again before leaving you, if you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses, you can not be saved!

Now it's either what your god says or what Jehovah our own God says, so let's here from others! cheesy
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 11:54am On Apr 01
Maximus69:


In that case you need to stop all this pointless lengthy epistles of unwarranted arguments regarding soul, body or spirit going to your imaginary hell and go straight telling people that they will all go to your imaginary hellfire because they disagree with you to worship on Saturday! cheesy

If you're not insane for real, whether spirit, soul or body what matters is if they obey God's word, they will be favoured in the day of judgment.

So instead of arguing profusely like a mad man, just go straight telling them to stop Sunday worship and return to Saturday so that they will not end up in your imaginary Hell! cheesy

Confused Dullard! cheesy



You are so bitter why?
Because you lost?Lol........I can stop laughing. God willing all false cults must be exposed.

For your information this thread was about reward of a person. the purpose of this thread was to re-educate people on the true word of God that says a person's body is what is resurrected and rewarded and not their soul or spirit which had lead billions to believe in the doctrine of a eternal soul.

The issue of sabbath worship is not the purpose of this thread but was brought in by distractors like you.


On the issue of going to Hell, God's word is clear, anyone who knowingly breaks any of his 10commandments will go to Hell, simple.
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Maximus69(m): 12:05pm On Apr 01
blueAgent:

On the issue of going to Hell, God's word is clear, anyone who knowingly breaks any of his 10commandments will go to Hell, simple.

This is what JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES love hearing!

So instead of been hesitant, go straight in telling them they will all end up in your imaginary Hell for their refusal to join you in worshiping on Saturday! cheesy

Meanwhile, if you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses, YOU ARE DOOMED! wink
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 12:41pm On Apr 01
Maximus69:


This is what JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES love hearing!

So instead of been hesitant, go straight in telling them they will all end up in your imaginary Hell for their refusal to join you in worshiping on Saturday! cheesy

Meanwhile, if you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses, YOU ARE DOOMED! wink


Thats what separates me from you false teachers and lairs.

I have Evidence of what I say which is God's word.

You people have non just fantasy and wish full thinking.


If you had sense you would have refuted my arguments based on God's word.

Tell me while God would destroy someone who committed audltery and stealing while leaving someone who broke the sabbath?

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