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Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 5:51am On Feb 26
sonmvayina:


It will become one with God... Read psalm 104 :29-31 and Ecclessiatics 12 :7,the spirit returns to God who gave it...


You are even going deep into false doctrine.
What do you know is a spirit?
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 5:52am On Feb 26
Kallmerb:
kiss that is inspired by the Holy spirit.... Seems you really dont want to learn but argue on facts you dont know...

Shalom

Inspired by You not the Holy spirit.
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 5:57am On Feb 26
Image123:
Who cares what? The important questions like David asked should be "Who"?, "How?" What is the gain of knowing what if you don't know how?

I don't understand.
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 5:57am On Feb 26
jyz200:
Once you die thats all

Nothing like ascension, ressurection Judgement and punishment It's all bull crap
Stop deceiving yourself.
There is judgment and punishment.
Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 5:59am On Feb 26
Kallmerb:
This is why they say bible study is important in every Church


Firstly... There are 3 aspect to every Man.. The Body(Flesh), Soul and Spirit.... Firstly you need to understand that when God breathe into man he deposited his spirit into man...Gen 2:7

The body houses the Soul and the Spirit... The difference between your soul and spirit is that the soul is where everything is deposited and keep your thought,Ability to decide both wrong and right, but the Soul also contains Mans Spirit...

Your spirit is what you use to communicate with God and connects with Him... That is why the bible said God is spirit and He who worships must also do it in spirit.. God has no interest in Mans Flesh


Now the tricky part is the soul of man can be influenced by Both the Body and the spirit.. Because A mans Soul can only understand the captain which directs it...


The Body(flesh) is a sinful existence of man because its has been cursed since lucifer was cast down..

If a man is not well grounded in the Holy spirit of God the flesh which is influenced by the Evil spirit on earth can easily corrupt ones soul...

The Soul itself can not sustain and survive on its own.. Its either its influenced by the corruptible Flesh or its Influenced by the Incorruptible Spirit of God... But the Soul can never ever be empty or alone... It must have a master... That is why theres always a constant battle of our conscience in making both right and wrong decisions


Genesis 6:12 KJV
And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.

Now understand this... Due to the Sinful Nature of the Flesh it cannot transit into heaven because Habakkuk 1:13 said


Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity


That eyes of the lord is so pure that it cannot behold any form of iniquity... The Flesh being Sinful cannot enter heaven or stand before the throne of judgement


Kindly read about Enoch the Prophet and about his transition into Heaven..

Once a Man die the Soul exit mans Body and prepare for judgement while the Body returns to the dust, the Soul goes to a place reserved for them while some roam around the earth till judgement day


Show me bible verses or evidence of what a soul is?
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by jyz200(m): 6:00am On Feb 26
blueAgent:


Stop deceiving yourself.

There is judgment and punishment.

Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the
judgment:

Your evidence

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Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Kallmerb: 7:02am On Feb 26
blueAgent:



Show me bible verses or evidence of what a soul is?
bro i mo get time joor.... Evenn if Christ appear to u..u will still doubt.. U argue like an atheist
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Kallmerb: 7:06am On Feb 26
sonmvayina:


It will become one with God... Read psalm 104 :29-31 and Ecclessiatics 12 :7,the spirit returns to God who gave it...
stop wasting ur time. Its either hes a athiest or Muslim... Bible believing Christains dont argue like this...

Rather than being constructive and gentle with his reply he usually Start with Stop deceiving Yourself.. I wonder who he learnt that from
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by sonmvayina(m): 7:27am On Feb 26
blueAgent:



You are even going deep into false doctrine.
What do you know is a spirit?

Divine consciousness ...
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 2:34pm On Feb 26
sonmvayina:

Divine consciousness ...
Keep confusing yourself.
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 2:36pm On Feb 26
Kallmerb:
bro i mo get time joor.... Evenn if Christ appear to u..u will still doubt.. U argue like an atheist

No one will take you serious without Bible facts and evidence.
If you are sure of what you are saying show us were it is written in the Bible.
Thats simple.
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 2:43pm On Feb 26
jyz200:

Your evidence
How is it my evidence? I did not write the Bible.Are you an Atheist?
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 2:45pm On Feb 26
sonmvayina:

Divine consciousness ...

What is a soul or a spirit?
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 2:46pm On Feb 26
sonmvayina:

Divine consciousness ...
What is a soul and a spirit?
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Kallmerb: 3:53pm On Feb 26
blueAgent:


No one will take you serious without Bible facts and evidence.
If you are sure of what you are saying show us were it is written in the Bible.
Thats simple.
tell me where angel uriel or Raphael is in the bible but u believe they are real right?

Tell me where the 7 arch angels are mentioned, but you believe right?

Tell me where Virgin mary story or her mothers story is written in the bible but you believe right?

Tell me where cains wife is written about in the bible but you believe right?
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 3:59pm On Feb 26
Kallmerb:
tell me where angel uriel or Raphael is in the bible but u believe they are real right?

Tell me where the 7 arch angels are mentioned, but you believe right?

Tell me where Virgin mary story or her mothers story is written in the bible but you believe right?

Tell me where cains wife is written about in the bible but you believe right?


I don't believe any of this.

Stop looking for excuse I showed Bible verses in my OP to back my claims.

Show us yours.
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by sonmvayina(m): 6:03pm On Feb 26
blueAgent:


What is a soul and a spirit?

Let me take it from the start,
Let us (God the Father + mother earth) make man in our own image after our likeness... God the Father provided the spirit and the earth provided the dust for the body.. This process takes place within the womb of the woman.. In the original story where it was adapted from it was Father Enki and mother Ninmah..(you can Google both, you won't die if you do) when the spirit (contained in the man's sperm) fertilizers the egg from the mother a human soul is formed.. The foetus grows and after 9 months it is expelled from the womb to start life on earth.. At death the spirit returns to God who gave it (it is pure, it does not need saving from anything.) and the body returns to dust from where it was taken... The spirit becomes one with God.. Some people believe the spirit can return in another body and the circle continues (reincarnation) I am still investigating it.. The human soul ceases to exist at death.. Till the spirit finds another body.. Still in the womb of another woman..

Read Genesis, 1-2," psalm 104 :29-31, Ecclessiatics 12 :7.. Job 1:21
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by sonmvayina(m): 6:06pm On Feb 26
blueAgent:


Keep confusing yourself.


I have explained it for you.. Hope you at least try to read with open mind.
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Kallmerb: 8:06pm On Feb 26
blueAgent:



I don't believe any of this.

Stop looking for excuse I showed Bible verses in my OP to back my claims.

Show us yours.
am sure u dont believe in more than one Heaven also right

I pray God grant you deep knowledge and wisdom in his Words... Shalom
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Image123(m): 1:54am On Feb 27
blueAgent:


I don't understand.

Many people have right understanding. They understand what goes to heaven and what doesn't go. That is of little or no value to them or anyone as HOW to go to Heaven or WHO goes to heaven. I'm sure Ananias and Demas had these explanations and better. The saved THIEF at the Cross barely knew nothing.

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Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 6:07am On Feb 27
Image123:


Many people have right understanding. They understand what goes to heaven and what doesn't go. That is of little or no value to them or anyone as HOW to go to Heaven or WHO goes to heaven. I'm sure Ananias and Demas had these explanations and better. The saved THIEF at the Cross barely knew nothing.


Thats not true, majority of people think that The soul is immortal and it is the soul that goes to Heaven or Hell,
Which is wrong.

Who told you the thief knew nothing?
If he knew nothing why did he now ask to be saved from what?
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 6:09am On Feb 27
sonmvayina:


Let me take it from the start,
Let us (God the Father + mother earth) make man in our own image after our likeness... God the Father provided the spirit and the earth provided the dust for the body.. This process takes place within the womb of the woman.. In the original story where it was adapted from it was Father Enki and mother Ninmah..(you can Google both, you won't die if you do) when the spirit (contained in the man's sperm) fertilizers the egg from the mother a human soul is formed.. The foetus grows and after 9 months it is expelled from the womb to start life on earth.. At death the spirit returns to God who gave it (it is pure, it does not need saving from anything.) and the body returns to dust from where it was taken... The spirit becomes one with God.. Some people believe the spirit can return in another body and the circle continues (reincarnation) I am still investigating it.. The human soul ceases to exist at death.. Till the spirit finds another body.. Still in the womb of another woman..

Read Genesis, 1-2," psalm 104 :29-31, Ecclessiatics 12 :7.. Job 1:21

No wonder you are confused, you are mixing up pagan folk tales with Bible.

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Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 6:09am On Feb 27
Kallmerb:
am sure u dont believe in more than one Heaven also right

I pray God grant you deep knowledge and wisdom in his Words... Shalom

How does that prove your point?
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Image123(m): 6:32am On Feb 27
blueAgent:



Thats not true, majority of people think that The soul is immortal and it is the soul that goes to Heaven or Hell,
Which is wrong.

Who told you the thief knew nothing?
If he knew nothing why did he now ask to be saved from what?

Again, who cares? Are you saved or going to heaven or hell because you know the intricacies and routes of soul and spirit? The thief on the Cross knew BARELY nothing about correctest theology compared to Demas or Ananias and Sapphira. People should dwell more on important issues like how to be with God now and eternally, than academic exercises on the itinerary of souls and spirits.
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Maximus69: 7:26am On Feb 27
Blakewilli:
So then, what does 'dry bones shall rise again' mean?

They're obstinate unbelievers brainwashed to continue carrying credulity in their heads!

The resurrection of faithful servants of God aren't just one but two different settings,
The born again followers of Christ,they will be resurrected in the spirit:- this group are limited, they must be transformed into spirits because they're going to RULE in heaven with Jesus and only spirit beings live in heaven! Revelations 20:5-6

The second resurrection is the one that has been prophesied from the beginning which is physical:- this resurrection will include all those who have died as faithful servants of God before Jesus, John the baptist is the last of this set including millions of those who embraced the peace that the born again followers of Jesus preached and taught. Ezekiel 37:1-6

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Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Maximus69: 7:38am On Feb 27
Image123:


Again, who cares? Are you saved or going to heaven or hell because you know the intricacies and routes of soul and spirit? The thief on the Cross knew BARELY nothing about correctest theology compared to Demas or Ananias and Sapphira. People should dwell more on important issues like how to be with God now and eternally, than academic exercises on the itinerary of souls and spirits.

That man died that day!

He can't go to heaven because he is not BORN AGAIN like those having that hope so his own resurrection will take place here on earth.

By saying "I tell you today, you will be with me in Paradise"
Jesus means this man will have the opportunity to learn all that he couldn't learn during his days as a contemporary of Jesus from earthly followers of Jesus who will teach resurrected billions what Jesus taught, and by that time there will be no sickness, suffering or death under Jesus' rule here on earth!

Another misconception that's causing the confusion amongst Bible students is the word "PARADISE". Most people had been taught that Paradise is heaven whereas Paradise simply means the condition Adam and Eve experienced in the garden of Eden!
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Kallmerb: 7:58am On Feb 27
Maximus69:


They're obstinate unbelievers brainwashed to continue carrying credulity in their heads!

The resurrection of faithful servants of God aren't just one but two different settings,
The born again followers of Christ,they will be resurrected in the spirit:- this group are limited, they must be transformed into spirits because they're going to RULE in heaven with Jesus and only spirit beings live in heaven! Revelations 20:5-6

The second resurrection is the one that has been prophesied from the beginning which is physical:- this resurrection will include all those who have died as faithful servants of God before Jesus, John the baptist is the last of this set including millions of those who embraced the peace that the born again followers of Jesus preached and taught. Ezekiel 37:1-6
wait for it lol
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by sonmvayina(m): 7:58am On Feb 27
blueAgent:


No wonder you are confused, you are mixingk up pagan folk tales with Bible.

Just be humble....
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Maximus69: 8:24am On Feb 27
Kallmerb:
wait for it lol

Of course we are ever waiting with solid FAITH! 2Peter 3:3-4 smiley
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Maximus69: 8:30am On Feb 27
sonmvayina:


Just be humble....

Humility could be presented with words of tongue!
But real humility is observed WHEN YOU ARE ABLE TO SUCCUMB TO RULES GUIDING SOME PEOPLE. That's when all observers will notice the humility in you!
If you can't point to any organization that you yourself is HUMBLY subjected to, then you only wish your neighbor to become your PERSONAL subject! smiley
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Kallmerb: 8:30am On Feb 27
Maximus69:


Of course we are ever waiting with solid FAITH! 2Peter 3:3-4 smiley
i mean wait for the blueAgent to turn ur perfectly explained comment
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Maximus69: 8:44am On Feb 27
Kallmerb:
i mean wait for the blueAgent to turn ur perfectly explained comment

I knew him for long!

He's always coming up with subjects that is controversial, and by the end no group of persons is there to point to as those who practicing his theory! smiley

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