famouscargo4u:


He was dethroned by Awolowo but what happened thereafter? Awolowo died a very shameful death and Bode Thomas his right hand man barked till he died.

Alaafin was dethroned in 1955. Awolowo died in 1988. 33 years apart. Nobody killed Awolowo, God took him at his own time!!!

seunmsg:
Rubbish. There is no untouchable king in Nigeria right now. Governors are actually the real Kings as far as states are concerned. Alaafin, Sultan and Oba of Benin have all been dethroned by government in the past without any problem. No king is bigger than the state governor. They all serve at the mercy of the state government.

Huh? Oba and Ooni? Dethroned by a governor without any problem? You sure of this 'assertion'?

Dasuki's f father was removed by Abacha when He was the Sultan of sokoto

All Obas and Emirs are answerable to common local government
Let us learn further from history.
Ovonramwen Nogbaisi of Benin was dethroned in 1897
Also Sultan of Sokoto Ibrahim Dasuki in 1996
And finally Almighty alafin Adeyemi was also dethroned in 1955.

Bro. get the facts
Lucky had never and could never even nursed the intention of removing the Oba during his tenure
He only deprived the throne of their statutory financial privileges yet the throne survived until Oshhiomole came to power.
The Esama (Lucky's father) tried to form royalty where the King of Zulu kingdom came to Benin, visited the Esama but did not see the Oba.
Oba Erediawa suspended the Esama until he came with other royal fathers, knelt down to beg the Oba before he was forgiving.
All Traditional rulers have and can be dethroned except the Oba of Benin. Even Oba Ovoramwen when he was dethroned by the British in 1897, nobody ascended the throne until he died in exile before Oba Eweka was enthroned, thereafter, Oba Akenzua.

kode12:



I like where you are coming from, but kindly note that traditional rulers can be removed by the sitting governors of their states. And as a matter of fact, when Lucky Igbinedion held office c.2005 he too nearly removed the Oba of Benin from office, due to ruckus between the Oba and Nosakhare Igbinedion. The difference was the people of Bini kingdom fought against it and the Benin traditional stool being held in such high regard he had no choice but to back down.

GeneralTopic:
Ever since Sanusi Lamido Sanusi was ousted as the emir of Kano, by the Kano State Government, I have been reading comments in here like...

"they can never try this with (Inserts the name of one compound chief from a remote village)"

"the government will never attempt to uninstall (inserts the name of a family chief)"

Bla Bla Bla...

See, there is Royalty and there is Royalty. There are momentous levels to this game that goes beyond our 50 kobo sentiments...

The aura and charisma a traditional stool oozes, together with its historical progression and significance is how it will be treated...

Apart from these SS3 boys below:

Ooni of Ife
Oba of Benin (this particular one is nobody's mate)
Sultan of Sokoto

Your traditional ruler is at the mercy of the state government. The government will install and uninstall him like a mobile app and nothing will happen�... It is a very bitter pill to swallow. I know that. But let's resist the urge to argue about "realism" and "idealism" today... On this discourse, please ignore what is ideal and rather talk about what is obtainable.

Written by: Teddy Benson

No Oba / Emir or Obi is above the Gov . Go against their interest in public and you become another Sanusi

Alafin of Oyo. The one who commands the former Oyo empire including Osun and your Benin Kingdom.Most of you don't know the power this Monarch Commands.

GeneralTopic:
Ever since Sanusi Lamido Sanusi was ousted as the emir of Kano, by the Kano State Government, I have been reading comments in here like...

"they can never try this with (Inserts the name of one compound chief from a remote village)"

"the government will never attempt to uninstall (inserts the name of a family chief)"

Bla Bla Bla...

See, there is Royalty and there is Royalty. There are momentous levels to this game that goes beyond our 50 kobo sentiments...

The aura and charisma a traditional stool oozes, together with its historical progression and significance is how it will be treated...

Apart from these SS3 boys below:

Ooni of Ife
Oba of Benin (this particular one is nobody's mate)
Sultan of Sokoto

Your traditional ruler is at the mercy of the state government. The government will install and uninstall him like a mobile app and nothing will happen�... It is a very bitter pill to swallow. I know that. But let's resist the urge to argue about "realism" and "idealism" today... On this discourse, please ignore what is ideal and rather talk about what is obtainable.

Written by: Teddy Benson

Abacha dethroned a Sultan of Sokoto...

obailala:
Abacha dethroned a Sultan of Sokoto...

He was a kid then. He wouldn't know

Generalissimo75:


Hmmm..... Ever heard of Alaafin Of Oyo?

How Obafemi Awolowo dethroned Alaafin of Oyo.

https://www.legit.ng/amp/1108797-how-chief-obafemi-awolowo-dethroned-alaafin-oyo-oba-adeyemi-adeniran-married.html


Cc lzaa gmbuharii sarrki

Pusyiter:
Bro. get the facts
Lucky had never and could never even nursed the intention of removing the Oba during his tenure
He only deprived the throne of their statutory financial privileges yet the throne survived until Oshhiomole came to power.
The Esama (Lucky's father) tried to form royalty where the King of Zulu kingdom came to Benin, visited the Esama but did not see the Oba.
Oba Erediawa suspended the Esama until he came with other royal fathers, knelt down to beg the Oba before he was forgiving.
All Traditional rulers have and can be dethroned except the Oba of Benin. Even Oba Ovoramwen when he was dethroned by the British in 1897, nobody ascended the throne until he died in exile before Oba Eweka was enthroned, thereafter, Oba Akenzua.

A clap for him.

I love statements with facts.

Oba of Benin has been dethroned before. Get back to history.

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Afamed:

He was a kid then. He wouldn't know

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Afamed:

No Oba / Emir or Obi is above the Gov . Go against their interest in public and you become another Sanusi

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Make any Governor Try to uninstall emir of ilorin and Alaafin of OYO make the Governor and him family know how far??

mrvitalis:

He has been dethroned in 1955 relax

Are you playing ??
The Alaafin that was banished in 1955 was dethroned with due cultural and Traditional process.
Go learn history sir...

seunmsg:
Rubbish. There is no untouchable king in Nigeria right now. Governors are actually the real Kings as far as states are concerned. Alaafin, Sultan and Oba of Benin have all been dethroned by government in the past without any problem. No king is bigger than the state governor. They all serve at the mercy of the state government.

that's what I've been telling them since
Nigeria doesn't practice monarch system of government so no king is above the government

Beosten:
No king is untouchable, but fighting Ooni, Alaafin and Oba of Bini will attract serious retributions on the governors.

This is sense jhor...!

GeneralTopic:
Ever since Sanusi Lamido Sanusi was ousted as the emir of Kano, by the Kano State Government, I have been reading comments in here like...

"they can never try this with (Inserts the name of one compound chief from a remote village)"

"the government will never attempt to uninstall (inserts the name of a family chief)"

Bla Bla Bla...

See, there is Royalty and there is Royalty. There are momentous levels to this game that goes beyond our 50 kobo sentiments...

The aura and charisma a traditional stool oozes, together with its historical progression and significance is how it will be treated...

Apart from these SS3 boys below:

Ooni of Ife
Oba of Benin (this particular one is nobody's mate)
Sultan of Sokoto

Your traditional ruler is at the mercy of the state government. The government will install and uninstall him like a mobile app and nothing will happen�... It is a very bitter pill to swallow. I know that. But let's resist the urge to argue about "realism" and "idealism" today... On this discourse, please ignore what is ideal and rather talk about what is obtainable.

Written by: Teddy Benson

Oba Ovonramweh Nogbaisi was dethroned in 1897

Dasuki Sultan of Sokoto was dethroned in 1995

seunmsg:
Rubbish. There is no untouchable king in Nigeria right now. Governors are actually the real Kings as far as states are concerned. Alaafin, Sultan and Oba of Benin have all been dethroned by government in the past without any problem. No king is bigger than the state governor. They all serve at the mercy of the state government.

When was the Oba of Benin dethroned and who replaced him?

Kundagarten:


When was the Oba of Benin dethroned and who replaced him?

Story....he was still dethroned. Stop crying like a kid. I respect the Benin kingdom but he was dethroned.

moscobabs:


Oba Ovonramweh Nogbaisi was dethroned in 1897

Dasuki Sultan of Sokoto was dethroned in 1995

In Edo culture, no matter where the Oba is, he remains the Oba until his demise. Sanusi was dethroned and a new emir was announced. That can never happen in Edo as long as the Oba is alive. Our Oba can be exiled to kafanchan but he would still be addressed as the Oba of Benin.

coolitempa:


Story....he was still dethroned. Stop crying like a kid. I respect the Benin kingdom but he was dethroned.

Stop wailing and state your point. Who replaced him after he was dethroned? Only the Oba's first son can be Oba and he cannot be Oba as long as the Oba is alive.

freeze001:


Huh? Oba and Ooni? Dethroned by a governor without any problem? You sure of this 'assertion'?

The British government deposed Oba Ovonramwen and exiled him to calabar.

Sirjamo:
Alaafin was dethroned in 1955. Awolowo died in 1988. 33 years apart. Nobody killed Awolowo, God took him at his own time!!!

I did not say he killed him But did he achieve his aspirations of leading the country?

The British dethroned Oba of Benin though
Sultan was shamed by Abacha
Every king in Yorubaland respects the throne of the Ooni

GeneralTopic:
Ever since Sanusi Lamido Sanusi was ousted as the emir of Kano, by the Kano State Government, I have been reading comments in here like...

"they can never try this with (Inserts the name of one compound chief from a remote village)"

"the government will never attempt to uninstall (inserts the name of a family chief)"

Bla Bla Bla...

See, there is Royalty and there is Royalty. There are momentous levels to this game that goes beyond our 50 kobo sentiments...

The aura and charisma a traditional stool oozes, together with its historical progression and significance is how it will be treated...

Apart from these SS3 boys below:

Ooni of Ife
Oba of Benin (this particular one is nobody's mate)
Sultan of Sokoto

Your traditional ruler is at the mercy of the state government. The government will install and uninstall him like a mobile app and nothing will happen�... It is a very bitter pill to swallow. I know that. But let's resist the urge to argue about "realism" and "idealism" today... On this discourse, please ignore what is ideal and rather talk about what is obtainable.

Written by: Teddy Benson

a sultan has been deposed duhhhhhhh...I think babangida did.

Kundagarten:

In Edo culture, no matter where the Oba is, he remains the Oba until his demise. Sanusi was dethroned and a new emir was announced. That can never happen in Edo as long as the Oba is alive. Our Oba can be exiled to kafanchan but he would still be addressed as the Oba of Benin.

The fact remains the he was dethroned

moscobabs:


Oba Ovonramweh Nogbaisi was dethroned in 1897

Dasuki Sultan of Sokoto was dethroned in 1995

No. He fought the British. Mo one replaced him on while in Calabar. The throne was empty till he died. The throne was taken by his son after he died. The oba of Bini are usually not human, they are gods.

Pusyiter:
Bro. get the facts
Lucky had never and could never even nursed the intention of removing the Oba during his tenure
He only deprived the throne of their statutory financial privileges yet the throne survived until Oshhiomole came to power.
The Esama (Lucky's father) tried to form royalty where the King of Zulu kingdom came to Benin, visited the Esama but did not see the Oba.
Oba Erediawa suspended the Esama until he came with other royal fathers, knelt down to beg the Oba before he was forgiving.
All Traditional rulers have and can be dethroned except the Oba of Benin. Even Oba Ovoramwen when he was dethroned by the British in 1897, nobody ascended the throne until he died in exile before Oba Eweka was enthroned, thereafter, Oba Akenzua.

Nigeria runs a democratic government sir. No traditional ruler is above a democratically elected governor. The Constitution of Nigeria still reigns supreme. The respect they still have is due to our reverence for tradition asides that they hold only influence. Traditional stools in Nigeria have been weakened so much due to their having vested interests in politics. When you become partisan it's only expected. Royal fathers should learn to remain neutral and fight for the good of their people.