It amazes me dat wen it comes to ancient Nigeria history warfare, monarchy, traditions the focal point is always d Benins,...


It show dat we all knw d truth but some r trying deir best to bury it and rewrite it

You are talking trash. When the OP wrote, he gave details, important events, what led to what and dates. All these can be verified if you want to. You just sit behind your keyboard and type what you like

oyatz:
The OP doesn't know what he is talking about.




The Binis colonized Urhobo, parts of Yorubaland, Parts of Igboland and the Eshan people.

The Igalas colonized Northern Igboland.

The Oyo Empire (Yorubas) colonized Dahomey

Dartilo:





The civil war fight was no d fight of the Benin but of Nigeria, all history book will tell you Midwest was neutral and biafra troops met no resistance... Do u actually tink d Benin pple r happy about dis Nigeria entity, imagine an empire dat once colonise half of southern Nigeria is now a minority in dat same country... Bendel will neva follow biafra or oduduwa, it's better to be on our own and if u read ur history book immediately biafra troop arrive Benin den declare an independent state as d Republic of Benin dat dis not last long

Very correct.

The Nigerian troops led by Benjamin Adekunle/Murtala Muhammad came and swept all the way down to the Niger at Asaba where they committed genocide.

Excuse me, what's your level of education sir?



The Civil war of 1967-1970 was between Nigeria Vs Biafra. It wasn't an Igbo Vs Bini war.

Bini was no longer an Empire or a Sovereign Country during the civil war, so it is in appropriate to say the Igbo conquered the Binis because Biafran forces INVADED the Mid-Western Region on a particular day during the civil war.

Mrexcell:


The binis have even been conquered by ojukwu and his biafran soldiers during the biafra/nigeria civil war when they invaded and captured benin the capital of former Midwest region. Till date in history it's only the igbos and the british that have successfully conquered the binis and their oba.

AmuDimpka:


This is fact and the British took them 3 yrs Igbo it took them less than a day

Ojukwu is indeed a very great man the binis will always love this part of their history to be erased but no way it's always going to be there till Jesus comes.

Read about the civil wars from books written by key participants in the war from both sides of the divide.




The then Colonels Benjamin Adekunle and Murtalar Muhammed were NOT in the same divisions of the Army.

Adekunle Commanded the 3rd Marine Commando based in Port Harcourt, charged with re-taking Port-Harcourt, Aba, Owerri, Oguta, Uyo and Calabar. They didn't have anything to do with Asaba.

atheistandproud:



Very correct.

The Nigerian troops led by Benjamin Adekunle/Murtala Muhammad came and swept all the way down to the Niger at Asaba where they committed genocide.

What he meant was that the Hausas are still under Fulani colonisation.

Stop spreading your ignorance on this forum sir.

Camp = Ago (Bini)= Ago (Yoruba).


Eko does NOT mean camp in Bini Language.

The Binis referred to Eko as a camp for their soldiers along the coast doesn't mean Eko is a Bini word meaning camp.

This is just as Londinum (now called LONDON) was established as a Roman military base about 100BC. This however doesn't mean the Romans own London, let alone England.

prezeus:
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Eko means war camp in Benin . The oba of Lagos has clarified the issue stating that Lagos is not a Yoruba territory . Historians all agree that the Benin kingdom shapened Lagos as we know it now.

helinues:
And they couldn't colonise Hausa language as well?

they intentionally allowed hausa language as a unifying instrument plus Islamic religion.
The fulanis hijacked economic power by seizing the lands which is the means of production.
They hijacked religious power by ensuring that fulanis are always sultan.
They hijacked political power by ensuring that only fulanis are emirs.

Lifestone:

The only thing left for the Hausa is the language. But if you study the Fulani's approach, they will take the leadership and the religion culture and allow you only your language. So that's what you will see in Nupe, Ilorin etc.
Hausa are significantly dominated by the Fulani till today

: #Fact!
Anywhere this funalis go they take up their language, mix, penetrate and take hold of the leadership position.

Dahomey was a colony of the Oyo Empire.
They paid taxes and royalties to the Oyo Empire.

In the olden days, the Heirs to the throne of Dahomey must live in the Palace of the Alaafin, tutored in the art of governance, History and Military trainings.

He is given one of the daughters of the Alaafin to to marry as his first wife to cement diplomatic relationships between the two royal families.

SciLab:


The Dahomey colonized yorubaland after defeating their warriors with menstruating and pregnant women fighters.

Bini colonized and taught yorubas the kingship system.

Nupes also colonized yorubas.

Fulanis also colonized yorubaland and put an Emirate in it.

Facts and Factoids.

oyatz:
There are so many Fulani people that don't speak Fulfulde anymore or speak it with difficulty. The Fulani people in Nigeria mostly speak Hausa.

The Fulanis in Ilorin can't even speak Hausa or Fulfulde. They now speak Yoruba language.


Only itinerant Fulanis who live in isolated temporary camps in the Savannah of the North speak Fulfulde as their first language.




The Fulanis are an ISLAMIC people who don't place much emphasis on Languages or tribal culture but strongly uphold the Islamic identity.

Wrong, islamization is a hoax. Complete fulanization is their main agenda.

prezeus:


How about you Google it

Is that your get out of jail free card? Nothing like that on google.

oyatz:
Read about the civil wars from books written by key participants in the war from both sides of the divide.




The then Colonels Benjamin Adekunle and Murtalar Muhammed were NOT in the same divisions of the Army.

Adekunle Commanded the 3rd Marine Commando based in Port Harcourt, charged with re-taking Port-Harcourt, Aba, Owerri, Oguta, Uyo and Calabar. They didn't have anything to do with Asaba.

Wikipedia says you're wrong. Murtala Muhammad was in charge of Nigerian 2nd Division that destroyed Asaba, killed more than 700 men and raped their women.
He was the commanding officer.

abumeinben:


You don't have to go offensive bruh. You should just "research" it out. The Binis colonized lots of tribes, including Eko. Eko is a Bini term.

Benin colonised igbos?you must be smoking gum,how can igbo people get to agbor?

The Fulanis are North African Arabs, Bedouin Tuaregs and Desert Trekkers got to North NIGERIA and found the Hausa with Cultures that are similar and very adaptable to theirs. They settled with them and described themselves FULANI Arabs and HAUSA Arabs. Later they launched The Caliphate for Ruga Islamisation Fulanisation and Anarchy everywhere in NIGERIA.

franchasng:
shut up that guy is correct lol


Binis colonised part of Yoruba, part of Urhobo, part of Igbo communities, etc.


The same way Yorubas colonised Dahomey part of Benin Republic


And the same way Igalas and Idomas colonised some part of Northern Igbo, Ijaw also did same to some part of Igbos.



Not all colonisation involves war, some are willing colonisation by gradual traditional, cultural and political dominance.

at what point did bini colonise urhobo
present facts and stop spewing trash

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Isinweke:


You people have been trying to create fake history.

Keep deceiving themselve.

Bini is older than Yoruba
Benin Kingdom is older than all Yoruba empire.

Yorubas are Benis. Not the other way round

[/s]Stop claiming rubbish. Bini are yorubas, what is the meaning of bini in their language. Bini has meaning in Yoruba.

Same Oba called people like you idiot for lie you created in his name.

SciLab:


The Dahomey colonized yorubaland after defeating their warriors with menstruating and pregnant women fighters.

Bini colonized and taught yorubas the kingship system.

Nupes also colonized yorubas.

Fulanis also colonized yorubaland and put an Emirate in it.

Facts and Factoids.

You too dense. Go read your history. Even dahomey no fit talk the shit.

Mymynd4u:


You are probably sick or demented

Where did bini colonize
Where did igala colonized


Pls rethink again n write sense

Learn to speak without insult. Also go read your history books.

nowpresence:

at what point did bini colonise urhobo
present facts and stop spewing trash

Urhobo wado

correctguy0900:


But what is Eshan? There's no tribe like that in Nigeria.

look at my profile

Efewestern:


Bini didn't colonized Urhobo, Urhobo was a direct offshoot of Bini, a child of the Bini kingdom, not only Urhobo but so many tribes in the present day Delta, Edo and Ondo state.

If Bini had imposed their language on territories they conquered, it'd have been one of the major ethnic group in Nigeria.

Kingdoms rise and fall, so was the story of the great Bini empire.

It points to the fact that the influence of the Bini Empire was grossly over-stated and exaggerated.

Great/significant empires left cultural imprints in their wake wherever they existed.

You can easily see diffusion of Latin into English, French, Portuguese, Spanish and German because of the Roman Empire.

Where is the impact of Bini language roundabout the epicenter of the kingdom?

Let's we forget, Asaba, Warri and Sapele are all less than 300km from Benin....

How come Bini influence on these adjoining areas range from minimal to non-existent?

Mraphel:

Let d binis come and recolonize again.

The mistake d yoruba people made was to think bini and Yorubas are d same thing...Oranmiyan and Eweka were Oduduwa's son.

The first official language of Bini palace was d Yoruba.

If benin truly colonized d yorubas, they will unsit the Ooni of Ife or Alaafin of Oyo..if it doesn't happened then Yoruba colonized the Edo by banishing the Ogiso and imposing an Oba (a yoruba title) on them onto this day.

There was no generalisation in my comment. Eko not Yorubas

Ykc2:
Benin colonised igbos?you must be smoking gum,how can igbo people get to agbor?

Boss wia you see Igbo na

maestroferddi:
It points to the fact that the influence of the Bini Empire was grossly over-stated and exaggerated.

Great/significant empires left cultural imprints in their wake wherever they existed.

You can easily see diffusion of Latin into English, French, Portuguese, Spanish and German because of the Roman Empire.

Where is the impact of Bini language roundabout the epicenter of the kingdom?

Let's we forget, Asaba, Warri and Sapele are all less than 300km from Benin....

How Bini influence on these adjoining areas range from minimal to non-existent?

It will be hard to trace any cultural imprints, The Bini Empire, just like the old Persian empire only had administrative units on territories conquered,even at that, Tribes in Delta and Edo all share similar culture.

abumeinben:


There was no generalisation in my comment. Eko not Yorubas

Fine they are binis and Esan...go and claim it

Sammy07:


What the fvck??
Yorubas are Benins??
How??
Explain??

The real binis of d golden days are the YORUBAS not the strangers that migrated into Edo to be the couterfit Binis

abumeinben:


Boss wia you see Igbo na

The fact is Ishan people, Akoko Edos , Afenmai in present edos are the ones colonized by the Binis..Binis will never colonized the Yorubas.

Mraphel:

The fact is Ishan people, Akoko Edos , Afenmai in present edos are the ones colonized by the Binis..Binis will never colonized the Yorubas.

Where did you see Yorubas boss?

Murtalar Muhammed is NOT the same person as Benjamin Adekunle (who I said was the Commander of the 3rd Marine Commando with Headquarters in Port Harcourt), I am surprised that you you don't know this.

atheistandproud:


Wikipedia says you're wrong. Murtala Muhammad was in charge of Nigerian 2nd Division that destroyed Asaba, killed more than 700 men and raped their women.
He was the commanding officer.

If you ask an average Indigene of Katsina, Kano or Zamfara, they will tell you that most Fulanis in their States have been hausanized.

Fulanis mix easily with their host communities in as much as these hosts are Muslims.

In Gombe, Taraba, Adamawa and some parts of Kaduna States, there are clusters of unmixed fulani settlements largely because the surrounding tribes are non-muslims which make cultural assimilation difficult.

The Fulanis in Nigeria, though are a minority ethnic group but they are master political chess players, they won't stress the fulani identity or any ethnic identity (this will put them in disadvantaged positions) but will rather champion an Islamic and/or Northern identity (which will unify so many different tribes under one umbrella and give them the numbers to compete against their Southern rivals in the political equations of Nigeria).

atheistandproud:


I don't know if you're helping to uphold my argument or you're arguing against it.

1. We're speaking about the Fulani-Hausa relationship.
Not the Fulani Yoruba.

2. Obviously from my statement, a discerning mind would quickly code that I'm referring to the North.

3. The huge majority Fulanis in Kaduna, Zaria, Funtua, Gusau and a large part of Sokoto speak Fula first and Hausa second. There are also Tuaregs and Berbers here in Sokoto who speak their own indigenous languages before speaking Hausa and they speak both seemlessly and fluently.

4. I have not been to Ilorin so I can't say anything about that, but I know a few Yoruba Fulani who identify as Yoruba, dress as Yoruba and speak Yoruba language with no understanding of Fulfude. They're also devout Muslims as well.

Please read and digest my comment before replying.