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Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by CAPSLOCKED: 10:12pm On Apr 02, 2020 |
luvmijeje: I ADMIRE YOUR HONESTY ON HOW YOU CLING TO RELIGION BECAUSE OF "HOPE". BUT THE HOPE ON RELIGION IS WORTHLESS. YOU THINK YOU'RE NOT STRONG BECAUSE YOU WERE RAISED TO BELIEVE YOUR GOD IS YOUR STRENGTH, AND NOW CANNOT IMAGINE YOUR LIFE WITHOUT GOD, YOUR STRENGTH. HOPE ON RELIGION IS WORTHLESS. VERY WORTHLESS BECAUSE IN THE REALITY OF LIFE, WE CAN ARGUE FROM NOW TILL TOMORROW, THE FACT REMAINS THAT RELIGION DOES NOTHING TANGIBLE ASIDES PROVIDING THE EMPTY HOPE YOU CLING TO. NOW THERE ARE 2 KINDS OF HOPE, AND ONE IS USELESS. FOR EXAMPLE, I AM SO BROKE. I HAVE A HUNDRED NAIRA AS MY LAST CASH SO I GAMBLE WITH IT, WITH THE "HOPE" THAT IT MAY MULTIPLY. MY HOPE MAY PAY OFF IF MY FAVORITE TEAM DELIVERS, THEN I WIN. THAT IS WHEN HOPE IS USEFUL. OR WHEN WE HOPE FOR THE CURE FOR AIDS. IT'S USEFUL BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE WORKING FOR IT EVEN IF IT WILL TAKE A THOUSAND YEARS, WORK IS GOING ON FOR IT. SO WE KEEP THE HOPE ALIVE. BUT YOU CANNOT HOPE IN RELIGION TO BUILD YOU A SCHOOL. YOU CAN'T TAKE TEN SHOTS TO THE HEAD HAVING HOPE THAT A DEITY WILL KEEP YOU ALIVE. YOU CAN'T HOPE THAT YOUR CANCER OR DAMAGED KIDNEY SUDDENLY GETS BETTER. SUCH HOPE NEVER PAYS. YOU KEEP HOPING FOR A GREAT TRIP WHEN THERE'S NO ASSURANCE THAT YOU WON'T DIE IN A CRASH, SO WHY CAN WE NOT ABANDON WORTHLESS HOPE AND FACE REALITY? AND PREPARE FOR WHATEVER COMES? I WROTE EVERY EXAM WITH TWO THINGS ON MY MIND EITHER I FAIL OR I PASS; WHEN I FAIL I'LL WRITE AGAIN. WHEN I PASS I PROCEED TO THE NEXT LEVEL. AND THAT WAS HOW I COMPLETED COLLEGE WITHOUT A SINGLE FAILED COURSE. NEVER PRAYED FOR SHIT. NEVER FEARED FAILURE BECAUSE I'VE CONDITIONED MY HEART THAT IT'S THE WAY THE WORLD WORKS AND WINS AND LOSSES ARE PART OF THE GAME. PRESENTLY, I GO OUT EVERY DAY AND GO TO BED EVERYDAY WITH THE SAME TWO THINGS ON MY MIND, EITHER I GO THROUGH THIS DAY OR I DIE. I DO NOT LIVE WITH THE USELESS HOPE THAT I'M DESTINED FOR GREATNESS AND TRAGEDY IS NOT MY PORTION. THAT'S A FALSE HOPE BECAUSE EVERY DEAD RELIGIOUS MAN ONCE BELIEVED THAT. I JUST LIVE MY LIFE MAKING THE MOST OUT OF EVERY MOMENT WHILE PREPARING FOR TOMORROW.. BUT NEVER TO PUT HOPE IN THE DEITY OF ANY RELIGION TO PRESERVE ME. I GET THAT WE ALL CANNOT BE THAT STRONG, AND THE REASON IS THAT WE WERE RAISED WITH SUCH SILLY HOPES. I GREW UP HOPING IN NOTHING, BECAUSE NOTHING IS PROMISED. IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT YOU BELIEVE, WHEN IT'S THE MOMENT FOR YOUR BODY AS A LIVING ORGANISM TO SHUT DOWN AND GO TO REST PERMANENTLY, NOTHING WILL CHANGE ANYTHING. SO WHAT USE IS YOUR HOPE IN GOD, WHEN AS LITTLE AS A SNAKE VENOM OR A GAS LEAK CAN CHANGE YOUR LIFE?? FINALLY, RELIGION AND SUPERSTITION DAMAGES A LOT OF THINGS. - DRESS CODES AND RESTRICTIONS FOR WOMEN IN ISLAM - MALTREATMENT OF WOMEN WHEN THEY'RE BURNT OR BURIED ALIVE IN HINDU - HONOUR KILLINGS - RELIGIOUS CRISIS AND HOLY WARS - RELIGIOUS TERRORISM - RITUAL KILLINGS - SOCIAL INJUSTICE - GENITAL MUTILATION - MISOGYNY - SLOWS SOCIETAL DEVELOPMENT - INTENTIONAL NEGLIGENCE BECAUSE "LEAVE IT FOR GOD", WHICH OFTEN CAUSES HARM BECAUSE GOD LEAVES IT ONCE YOU LEAVE IT - EXTORTION IN THE NAME OF A GOD THAT IS NOT EVEN REAL - SUPPRESSION OF SCIENTIFIC PROGRESS - SHAMING (AND KILLING) OF SEVERAL GROUPS OF PEOPLE INCLUDING GAYS, PROSTITUTES, OLD WOMEN, HUNGRY SICK KIDS, AND EVEN ANIMALS LIKE CATS AND OWLS. AND MANY OTHER ILLS. HOW CAN WE OVERLOOK THESE ASPECTS OF RELIGION... JUST BECAUSE RELIGION MAKES "YOU" FEEL GOOD, AND PROVIDES "YOU" WITH FALSE HOPE?? 15 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by CAPSLOCKED: 10:18pm On Apr 02, 2020 |
elated177: 10 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by elated177: 10:26pm On Apr 02, 2020 |
realmindz: YAHVEH loves all his children. He chose the Israelites as his inheritance for a purpose. Through one of the tribes he sent his begotten Son into the world. However, today he has set apart all those who come to him through his Son as his chosen people, including Israelites. YAHVEH is not responsible for diseases, war, poverty, hunger, death, ravaging the world. Human beings are responsible for such activities. In fact, it is the activities of humans that bring about the destruction of the earth. Take for example, homosexuality. Can you feed on your excreta? The human anus has been referred to as the dirtiest part of the human body. Yet people feast on it with the tongue and insert penis into it. What about the food laws? The Creator of heaven and earth has given to man the list of things to eat and things not to eat. If man disregards this, should he then be held accountable for the consequences? That land was polluted through demon worship. The children had already been contaminated. Such events serve as lessons today. On the day YAHVEH will destroy this world, both young and old on the part of wickedness will be destroyed. Again, children were also held accountable for the sins of their fathers. But now, every soul that sins is the one that will die. You better choose your part now while you can. Those cursed youths got exactly what they deserved. It would have been an abomination if Elisha had spared those bastards. Did they not know that he was a prophet of the Most High? They knew what they were doing. YAHVEH Almighty will never acquit the guilty or condemn the innocent. Had it been not justice, he would not have answered Elisha's prayer. How was his baldness their problem? The Egyptians deserved exactly what they got. Prior to that, they had killed the sons of the Israelites. Did the Egyptians stop their pharoah when he ordered the killing of the male infants of the Israelites? It was justice. YAHVEH is a merciful and benevolent God. He is slow to anger abounding in love and faithfulness. But he will not leave the guilty unpunished. He will never condemn the innocent. To those who love him, he showers his love. Those who hate him he will repay to their face. |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by luvmijeje(f): 10:55pm On Apr 02, 2020 |
CAPSLOCKED:. Every malpractices you listed up there is failure of governance and it is product of religion mixing with culture. Are there no religion in the develop countries? Until we have an institution that works, I am not going to be arrogant like you who thinks you are better than those who are religious. You ain't better because they are better than you in one aspect. The belief in spirituality. I have seen enough to know that it ain't only the universe that is built logically, the relationship that exist between man is based on logic. And religion discovered that first. |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by elated177: 10:57pm On Apr 02, 2020 |
[quote author=CAPSLOCKED post=88038537][/quote] If you edit then I can reply. |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by elated177: 11:01pm On Apr 02, 2020 |
CAPSLOCKED: This is a faceless forum. Who is sure that you actually live your life like this? |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by CAPSLOCKED: 11:09pm On Apr 02, 2020 |
elated177: ME, AND MILLIONS OF OTHER PEOPLE WHO PUT LOGIC OVER BELIEF, AND FATE OVER FAITH. 12 Likes |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by LordReed(m): 11:28pm On Apr 02, 2020 |
luvmijeje: Completely false. We build our society on mutual need and aid not on religion. Religion is not what determines how a city should be planned for example. It is pure fantasy to say that you cannot build a working society without religion when there are many segments of society that work absolutely well without religion. 5 Likes |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by elated177: 11:58pm On Apr 02, 2020 |
CAPSLOCKED: Like I stated, no one here can ascertain your assertion. |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by GRIMMJOE(m): 12:04am On Apr 03, 2020 |
OtemAtum:To be honest I believe Atheist are ahead of time. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by GRIMMJOE(m): 12:18am On Apr 03, 2020 |
luvmijeje:This was emotional, it's the first time I've ever read something like this, most Christians usually lie to themselves till they start believing it, then proceed lying to others and get angry when they refuse to believe this lie. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by GRIMMJOE(m): 12:43am On Apr 03, 2020 |
elated177:His assertion is not for you to ascertain, you don't need mirroring someone's life to do the right thing, set your standard. 4 Likes |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by Nobody: 1:18am On Apr 03, 2020 |
luvmijeje: Who said so |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by Nobody: 1:28am On Apr 03, 2020 |
elated177: Christians are damn funny ..... U just said that Yahweh isn't responsible for wars....so funny of you..that means he isn't omniscient or all powerful 1 Like |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:50am On Apr 03, 2020 |
luvmijeje:The failure is as a result of humans refusing to improve the world they live in, becoming lazy waiting for a miracle. luvmijeje:Religion is dying out in develop countries, they finally discovers what works, and it's effort. luvmijeje:You claim atheists are arrogant, yet it's Christians telling people they are going to hell and will suffer for eternity. luvmijeje:No aspect in life is better than the other, we should all strive to improve every aspect of our life, not just the one taking us to heaven. luvmijeje:The spirituality Christians have failed woefully to prove exist? the same Christians that can no longer go to church to exercises this spirituality? luvmijeje:That's why it's best we explore this logic, since it brings solutions like drugs, vaccine, how a virus works etc. luvmijeje:What has religion done with this discovery. |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by LordReed(m): 8:24am On Apr 03, 2020 |
luvmijeje: I can agree that some people need the motivation religion can supply. The real grouse is when they tell us we must conform to their god's rules. No mr & mrs religionist we will not conform to your god's rules because they are antiquated rules. |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by luvmijeje(f): 8:39am On Apr 03, 2020 |
LordReed: Have you seen a working society that is not built on religion? You all are refusing to see what's in front of you. There is no civilisation that's not built on it. Without it there will be no organisation |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by luvmijeje(f): 8:41am On Apr 03, 2020 |
Xavfra: luvmijeje |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by luvmijeje(f): 8:55am On Apr 03, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE: First of all let me explain spirituality to you. Spirituality is the need that exist in every man to be happy and to be at peace. It's the hunger for a purpose. It's knowing that there's more to you than the materiality of this world. It is the hunger to believe that there is more to this world. It's the sole reasons religion will never die. It's the sole movement that understand that fact about human. It is the reasons even the most intelligent, the richest, the most develop societies still hold on to it |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by luvmijeje(f): 9:03am On Apr 03, 2020 |
LordReed: I know how annoying it could be. There's is this colleague of mine who told me that if I don't Change my ways I am going to hell. On top wetin na, all because I refuse to subscribe to your thinking. I don tell am that if christ comes today, I will be the one to make heaven and with all her holiness she won't get there. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:29am On Apr 03, 2020 |
luvmijeje:Do Nigerians look happy to you, is there peace in this world? Tell me purpose of a patients suffering from Covid 19. luvmijeje:Sorry to disappoint, but when you get to heaven all you would do is sing praise and worship, sleep, wake up and continue singing praise and worship. If I want to live in denial, I'll choose the religion that promise me 72 virgin. luvmijeje:Google " Dead Religions " luvmijeje:The only thing I see them holding on to is your wallet. |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:46am On Apr 03, 2020 |
luvmijeje:Out of 4200 religion, the chances of your religion being the right one is very slim, your God doesn't know basic science his Book is filled with mistakes and contradictions. |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by Reality11: 9:51am On Apr 03, 2020 |
luvmijeje: So are we experiencing any of this? That means your point is useless since Countries that are not religious experience this more than the religious ones. So you need religion to do what is right? Isn't this sickening 3 Likes |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by luvmijeje(f): 9:59am On Apr 03, 2020 |
Reality11: Mention countries that are not religious and is peaceful. |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by luvmijeje(f): 10:00am On Apr 03, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE: I concur. |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by Nobody: 10:10am On Apr 03, 2020 |
luvmijeje: . without religion hanty man would organise himself accordingly and will achieve more |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by Buliwyf: 10:16am On Apr 03, 2020 |
MyVILLAGEpeople: The sweet thing is that it is everlasting. You won't even get tired. You will just be banging and banging and banging and banging and...... LMAO |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by LordReed(m): 10:27am On Apr 03, 2020 |
luvmijeje: Civilisation was not built religion, don't be deceived. Civilisation was built on the realisation that cooperation was more beneficial than in-fighting. Religion is an attempt to stop people from arbitrarily changing societies laws by giving it the laws a veneer of divine approval. There were laws before any of the major religions surfaced. The development of religion came as a result of an attempt to deal with the sorrow of death. Even elephants have been shown to gather together to mourn the passing of one of them. We have all manner of sub-societies that work well without religion. Professional bodies, all your law enforcement bodies, financial institutions, etc. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by LordReed(m): 10:29am On Apr 03, 2020 |
luvmijeje: LoL! I am surprised at myself that all this end time talk is like water off a duck. I used to eat this stuff up. I even speculated that Obama was the antichrist. SMH. LoL! |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by Reality11: 10:30am On Apr 03, 2020 |
luvmijeje: There can't be a country that is 100% irreligious neither can there be a country that is 100% religious. Since you claimed how a country is religious is the factor that determine how it would be peaceful, orderly... Then we should expect countries with 90% adherents to religion to be more peaceful, orderly... Than a country with 40,50, 60, 70% population that are irreligious. But no the reverse is the case. Nigeria, Afghanistan, somalia, congo... are extremely religious probably more than 90%. Are this countries peaceful and orderly? While countries like Estonia, Netherland, Denmark, Sweden, Czech... That have good number of atheist and irreligious people tend to be more peaceful and orderly. Or are this countries not peaceful and orderly? It shows you don't need religion to be peaceful and orderly! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion 3 Likes
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Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by Reality11: 10:54am On Apr 03, 2020 |
LordReed: Lol, there is no limit to what indoctrination can make you think or believe. What keep people is fear. Fear to even reason and question what they had been made to believe. When I was living the shackles of religion and the idea of a God, I sometimes rebuke myself to stop thinking about stuffs that didn't add up. I'll even pray for forgiveness, I fear that thunder might strick me death My thought then was how can God exist? If there is no god and the universe didnt exist what would be present? If is nothing, then what is nothing? In fact I knew and worry about infinite regression since at an early age. Probably @ 13. Mine came very hard because didn't even care about religion but the origin or how god and the universe came to exist. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Religion Will Be Useful When Teaching "Satire" As A Figure Of Speech by luvmijeje(f): 10:59am On Apr 03, 2020 |
Reality11: You are absolutely missing my point. The problem of Nigeria is not religion. It's failure of governance. We have no government. We have no institutions. If other countries are succeeding despite been religious, then religion is not the problem. If not for religion Nigerians would be far worst than this. |
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