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Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by Maestro21: 2:02am On Apr 02
Kobojunkie:
Spamming news from Associated Press? undecided

There is a reason I had to location-drop that I stay in the United States. AP said Hunter Biden news was russian disinformation before the elections and immediately accepted that the news was legit after the elections. If you can answer in a few words why that happened then I would engage you further on this issue. Deal?

NB: The answer to my question is why I already said the news is fake.
Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by Kobojunkie: 2:04am On Apr 02
Maestro21:

There is a reason I had to location-drop that I stay in the United States. AP said Hunter Biden news was russian disinformation before the elections and immediately accepted that the news was legit after the elections. If you can answer in a few words why that happened then I would engage you further on this issue. Deal?

NB: The answer to my question is why I already said the news is fake.
I don't care about your hangups with anyone, I simply posted that the same news is still up today even on AP. undecided
You can always call the OK state gov office tomorrow to verify the news yourself tomorrow morning. undecided

https://oklahoma.gov/about/contactus.html
https://www.governor.ok.gov/contact/general-info
Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by Maestro21: 2:09am On Apr 02
Kobojunkie:
I don't care about your hangups with anyone, I simply posted that the same news is still up today even on AP. undecided
You can always call the OK state gov office tomorrow to verify the news yourself tomorrow morning. undecided

https://oklahoma.gov/about/contactus.html
https://www.governor.ok.gov/contact/general-info

Got it. You cannot answer my question. Thanks.

By the way, that the news is still up today does not make it legit. The news has to still be up so that agenda must agendate.
Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by Maestro21: 2:09am On Apr 02
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Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by budaatum: 2:43am On Apr 02
Maestro21:


I live in the U.S. I laugh when you post fake news thinking you are trolling. I hope you will still be alive by May 2021.

Why? Is the fake Coronavirus now real after all?

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Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by budaatum: 2:45am On Apr 02
Kobojunkie:
see link to the same story below

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-malaria-coronavirus-pandemic-oklahoma-09e3f4db37dda112ecec70d780bc964d

Abeg, let me quote you so they can not say dem no see am.

grin
Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by LordReed(m): 7:24am On Apr 02
Maestro21:


I live in the U.S. I laugh when you post fake news thinking you are trolling. I hope you will still be alive by May 2021.

See zombie don come back.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-malaria-coronavirus-pandemic-oklahoma-09e3f4db37dda112ecec70d780bc964d

AP is fake too abi. Bwahahahahaha. HCQ was never gonna be widely used and your lord and saviour took a vaccine. LMFAO.

What is happening in May? A zombie uprising? LMFAO!
Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by Maestro21: 9:11pm On Apr 02
budaatum:


Why? Is the fake Coronavirus now real after all?

Hahahahaha. I love reading posts of ignoramuses. You do know for e.g that 80% of the "positive" cases are from PCR tests whose fit for purpose is being debated and the cycles of testing has been reduced because 45 cycles were being used which indicates 80% false positives.
Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by Maestro21: 9:14pm On Apr 02
LordReed:


See zombie don come back.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-malaria-coronavirus-pandemic-oklahoma-09e3f4db37dda112ecec70d780bc964d

AP is fake too abi. Bwahahahahaha. HCQ was never gonna be widely used and your lord and saviour took a vaccine. LMFAO.

What is happening in May? A zombie uprising? LMFAO!

I asked the guy above a question, answer it if you can. Quoting AP. You should have quoted CNN as well.

It is funny how you believe only the things about Trump or the media that you want to believe. When he talked about HCQ he was lying but when he talked about regeneron, he was definitely telling the truth.
Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by budaatum: 9:21pm On Apr 02
Maestro21:


Hahahahaha. I love reading posts of ignoramuses. You do know for e.g that 80% of the "positive" cases are from PCR tests whose fit for purpose is being debated and the cycles of testing has been reduced because 45 cycles were being used which indicates 80% false positives.

So, what you are saying is, the 80% of the 2.8m people who died of coronavirus around the world are false deaths, and the PCR tests to test their deadness is false positive?

I get you. Those dead people must be alive somewhere and will soon show themselves.

Please hola as soon as they show themselves to you please.

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Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by Maestro21: 10:04pm On Apr 02
budaatum:


So, what you are saying is, the 80% of the 2.8m people who died of coronavirus around the world are false deaths, and the PCR tests to test their deadness is false positive?

I get you. Those dead people must be alive somewhere and will soon show themselves.

Please hola as soon as they show themselves to you please.


No, what it means is, 80% of the "positive cases" were false positives. People who had the common flu even months before taking a PCR test with 45 cycles will test positive to COVID-19 because PCR only tells you there was a CORONAVIRUS either at the time of testing or months before. It does not tell you that it was COVID-19. lol

Also, the death counts were fake. If one tested positIve for COVID-19 and died up to 28 days after, that death was attributed to COVID-19. For example, in California, hundreds of the COVID-19 dead bodies had bullet wounds in them. LOL
Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by budaatum: 10:12pm On Apr 02
Maestro21:

Also, the death counts were fake. If one tested positIve for COVID-19 and died up to 28 days after, that death was attributed to COVID-19. For example, in California, hundreds of the COVID-19 dead bodies had bullet wounds in them. LOL

Please provide evidence for the bold statement of yours please!

Are you suggesting that the "16 percent increase in deaths from 2019," are all fake?

premkumer262:
Covid-19 was the third-leading cause of death in the United States last year, surpassing accidental deaths, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Wednesday.
Only heart disease and cancer caused more deaths.
What's more, the pandemic accelerated the U.S. death rate.
"In 2020, about 3.3 million deaths occurred in the United States. Overall, this represents a 16 percent increase in deaths from 2019," CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said at a news briefing Wednesday. Covid-19 deaths accounted for roughly 11 percent of deaths in 2020.
The report, from the CDC's National Center for Health Statistics, was based on death certificate data from January through December. Heart disease — long America's No. 1 killer — was the cause of approximately 690,000 deaths last year, according to the report. About 598,000 deaths were linked to cancer.
Covid-19 was listed as a cause of death or contributing cause on approximately 375,000 such documents in 2020. (As of Wednesday, that number had risen to more than 540,000.) A small percentage listed Covid-19 as the only cause of death, while more than 97 percent listed Covid-19 along with other health problems.
A similar report from the CDC last year lead to concerns and even conspiracy theories that Covid-19 was not the true cause of death in the vast majority of cases.
But experts said those deaths would not have occurred had Covid-19 not made the victims' underlying conditions worse.
"From a physician who has taken care of these patients and signed way too many death certificates, I can tell you for a fact that patients died because of Covid-19," said Dr. Hugh Cassiere, director of critical care services at Sandra Atlas Bass Heart Hospital at North Shore University Hospital, part of Northwell Health, on Long Island, New York.
"These are people with underlying medical conditions, who, if they had not developed Covid-19, would still be alive," Cassiere said.
It has been well established that underlying health problems, such as obesity, kidney disease, high blood pressure and Type 2 diabetes, put a person at risk for severe outcomes of Covid-19.
A CDC study published this month found that nearly 80 percent of Covid-19 patients hospitalized in the U.S. were classified as either overweight or obese.
The new CDC report also confirmed that Covid-19 created a "plausible chain-of-event condition," meaning the infection directly caused other conditions, such as pneumonia or respiratory failure, listed on the death certificate.
"Overall, 70 percent to 80 percent of death certificates had both a chain-of-event condition and a significant contributing condition or a chain-of-event condition only," the report's authors wrote.
Covid-19 death rates were higher among people over 85, men and racial and ethnic minorities, such as Hispanics, Black people and American Indian or Alaska Native populations.
"We continue to see that communities of color account for an outsized portion of these deaths," Walensky said. "Among nearly all of these ethnic and racial minority groups, the Covid-19-related deaths were more than double the death rate of non-Hispanic white persons."
Such inequity data "should give all of us pause," said Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, chair of the department of medical ethics and health policy at the University of Pennsylvania. "It really is devastating."
And the true number of Covid-19 deaths may be much higher. "Limited availability of testing," the report's authors wrote, "might have resulted in an underestimation of Covid-19–associated deaths."
As we all know, Covid-19 caused a large number of deaths in the United States. Therefore, taking necessary measures to control the spread of the epidemic is an effective means to reduce deaths due to the epidemic.

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Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by LordReed(m): 11:05pm On Apr 02
Maestro21:


I asked the guy above a question, answer it if you can. Quoting AP. You should have quoted CNN as well.

It is funny how you believe only the things about Trump or the media that you want to believe. When he talked about HCQ he was lying but when he talked about regeneron, he was definitely telling the truth.

Ever hear of the word corroboration? Does HCQ have corroboration or its the word of your lord and saviour that's enough for you?

What question?
Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by LordReed(m): 11:06pm On Apr 02
budaatum:


So, what you are saying is, the 80% of the 2.8m people who died of coronavirus around the world are false deaths, and the PCR tests to test their deadness is false positive?

I get you. Those dead people must be alive somewhere and will soon show themselves.

Please hola as soon as they show themselves to you please.


I guess that's the zombie uprising coming in May.

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Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by budaatum: 11:29pm On Apr 02
LordReed:


I guess that's the zombie uprising coming in May.

Aha, my Lord! That's what it is! The 2.8m people did not really die of coronavirus but were just shot with bullets are now hiding somewhere waiting to be the uprising in May! How could I have forgotten that's when they will be inaugurating president orange turd!!

Have they published the date yet or is it wait and see?

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Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by LordReed(m): 12:27am On Apr 03
budaatum:


Aha, my Lord! That's what it is! The 2.8m people did not really die of coronavirus but were just shot with bullets are now hiding somewhere waiting to be the uprising in May! How could I have forgotten that's when they will be inaugurating president orange turd!!

Have they published the date yet or is it wait and see?

As zombies the only mode they have is wait and see. LoL

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Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by Maestro21: 3:56pm On Apr 03
budaatum:


Please provide evidence for the bold statement of yours please!

Are you suggesting that the "16 percent increase in deaths from 2019," are all fake?


16% increase in deaths where? You are pulling fake statistics. The death toll is basically the same with previous years. In fact, other tolls like flu deaths are now non-existent. LOL
Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by Maestro21: 3:59pm On Apr 03
LordReed:


Ever hear of the word corroboration? Does HCQ have corroboration or its the word of your lord and saviour that's enough for you?

What question?


Hahahahahahahahaha.

Each time you reply I know how ignorant you are. Does HCQ that people were taking for 65 years need corroboration? Does HCQ that WHO termed an emergency drug for 65 years need corroboration? What about Ivermectin? As soon as many other scientists announced that it works for COVID-19 guess what happened? They discontinued its sale and distribution. Hahahaha.
Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by Maestro21: 4:06pm On Apr 03
budaatum:


Aha, my Lord! That's what it is! The 2.8m people did not really die of coronavirus but were just shot with bullets are now hiding somewhere waiting to be the uprising in May! How could I have forgotten that's when they will be inaugurating president orange turd!!

Have they published the date yet or is it wait and see?

You do know what Co-morbidities are? You do know that dying of COVID-19 is not the same as dying with COVID-19?

You do know that if someone died of a heart condition that they had endured for years but a PCR test showed that they had were positive for Coronavirus antibodies, the CDC asked the coroner to rule it as a COVID-19 death? LOL

Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by budaatum: 4:11pm On Apr 03
Maestro21:


16% increase in deaths where? You are pulling fake statistics. The death toll is basically the same with previous years. In fact, other tolls like flu deaths are now non-existent. LOL

Is the earth not flat!

Continue to cover your eyes very well so you can refuse to see the facts.

Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by budaatum: 4:15pm On Apr 03
Maestro21:


You do know what Co-morbidities are? You do know that dying of COVID-19 is not the same as dying with COVID-19?

You do know that if someone died of a heart condition that they had endured for years but a PCR test showed that they had were positive for Coronavirus antibodies, the CDC asked the coroner to rule it as a COVID-19 death? LOL

So, the fact that a person caught coronavirus and died of a heart attack they might not have died of without coronavirus has nothing to do with coronavirus?

I get you. We can ignore all those suicides who died because they lost someone to coronavirus too.
Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by Maestro21: 4:19pm On Apr 03
budaatum:


So, the fact that a person caught coronavirus and died of a heart attack they might not have died of without coronavirus has nothing to do with coronavirus?

I get you. We can ignore all those suicides who died because they lost someone to coronavirus too.

That is why I asked you if you know what a comobordity is. During peak flu seasons in time past up to 2019 if someone died of a heart attack whilst testing positive to the flu NOBODY ruled it as a flu death. Same with cancer, TB, COPD etc. Until COVID19.

Remember, I am not saying there is nothing like COVID-19. There is. I am saying 1. it has not killed as many people as claimed. 2. Even with the fake numbers, the death toll world over is the same as 2018 and 2019 when there was no COVID-19. Therefore, this is a fake pandemic.
Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by budaatum: 4:23pm On Apr 03
Maestro21:


That is why I asked you if you know what a comobordity is. During peak flu seasons in time past up to 2019 if someone died of a heart attack whilst testing positive to the flu NOBODY ruled it as a flu death. Same with cancer, TB, COPD etc. Until COVID19.

Remember, I am not saying there is nothing like COVID-19. There is. I am saying 1. it has not killed as many people as claimed. 2. Even with the fake numbers, the death toll world over is the same as 2018 and 2019 when there was no COVID-19. Therefore, this is a fake pandemic.

Its not just the death numbers that matter but the number of people who fall ill and who, if left untreated, would have died.

Go read up about the overwhelming of health services around the world if you can understand it. Post what you find so I know you bothered.
Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by LordReed(m): 4:34pm On Apr 03
Maestro21:


Hahahahahahahahaha.

Each time you reply I know how ignorant you are. Does HCQ that people were taking for 65 years need corroboration? Does HCQ that WHO termed an emergency drug for 65 years need corroboration? What about Ivermectin? As soon as many other scientists announced that it works for COVID-19 guess what happened? They discontinued its sale and distribution. Hahahaha.

Bwahahahahaha! OMFD you're an absolute dung heap. How long a drug has been used to treat one ailment is no indication of how effective it would be against another ailment. You'd know this if you had enough time to take your head out of Trump's arse. There is no corroboration that HCQ is effective against Covid-19, I dunno why why your shit for brains can't at least come to terms with this simple fact. Oh wait you're a zombie so maybe it's too much to expect.
Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by Maestro21: 5:01pm On Apr 03
budaatum:


Is the earth not flat!

Continue to cover your eyes very well so you can refuse to see the facts.

You are posting laughable links with distorted reasoning embedded in the articles.

In your link, there were 2.9 M deaths in 2019. In 2020 they claim that there were 3.3 M deaths. But if one reads through the article they state that 0.09M deaths due to overdose alone (a record in US history far higher than previous years), another article states 0.020 M deaths from gunshots alone ( a record again), suicide deaths (0.045 M) these 3 already account for 0.15 M which reduces that toll to 3.15 M.

Next, your article claims that the data they were fact-checking only considered death tolls from Feb - Dec and that those numbers were only provisional. Which means the CDC, backlogged deaths from December 2019 ending and added to it to January 2020 and then added it to the death toll for 2020. That is voodoo analysis. No wonder they are not the same excel sheet for 2019 on their website. That notwithstanding, the January 2020 death toll was 0.164M. 3.15 M- 0.164 M = ~ 2.9 M. That is why they started doing voodoo analysis for something as easy as death toll.

You can keep reading junk articles created to muddy the waters and deceive the unsuspecting. Not me. LOL
Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by Maestro21: 5:03pm On Apr 03
budaatum:


Its not just the death numbers that matter but the number of people who fall ill and who, if left untreated, would have died.

Go read up about the overwhelming of health services around the world if you can understand it. Post what you find so I know you bothered.

No offence but this is hogwash. Overwhelming where? You mean health care workers that stopped having shifts since February 2020? You mean health services that are uploading videos dancing in hospitals? You know you cannot fire health care workers during a so-called pandemic? Find out how many health care workers lost their jobs in 2020 alone. I can bring links but you should do your own research.
Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by Maestro21: 5:09pm On Apr 03
LordReed:


Bwahahahahaha! OMFD you're an absolute dung heap. How long a drug has been used to treat one ailment is no indication of how effective it would be against another ailment. You'd know this if you had enough time to take your head out of Trump's arse. There is no corroboration that HCQ is effective against Covid-19, I dunno why why your shit for brains can't at least come to terms with this simple fact. Oh wait you're a zombie so maybe it's too much to expect.

If someone was not experiencing a headache will it be apparent what tylenol or panadol was doing in the system? You sound so uneducated. The HCQ pill in the system of one suffering from Lupus does not have enough intelligence to know if another host is suffering from COVID-19. LOL. It is simply absorbed into the system and goes to work from there.

What is risible is how HCQ dose is usually 50- 100 mg yet when "experts" wanted to test it on COVID-19 patients, they were giving them 1200-2400 mg. 24 to 48 times the regular dose - just to kill them.

Meanwhile, more than 100 doctors in the USA alone, have had 100% success rate with the same HCQ, yet the mainstream media refuses to give them coverage. LOL
Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by LordReed(m): 5:59pm On Apr 03
Maestro21:


If someone was not experiencing a headache will it be apparent what tylenol or panadol was doing in the system? You sound so uneducated. The HCQ pill in the system of one suffering from Lupus does not have enough intelligence to know if another host is suffering from COVID-19. LOL. It is simply absorbed into the system and goes to work from there.

What is risible is how HCQ dose is usually 50- 100 mg yet when "experts" wanted to test it on COVID-19 patients, they were giving them 1200-2400 mg. 24 to 48 times the regular dose - just to kill them.

Meanwhile, more than 100 doctors in the USA alone, have had 100% success rate with the same HCQ, yet the mainstream media refuses to give them coverage. LOL

LMAO you're so indivisibly stupíd. Why then don't they use Tylenol to cure Covid-19 since its such a tried and tested drug. You have puke for brains sincerely.

Name the top 5 of these 100 doctors.
Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by budaatum: 7:05pm On Apr 03
Maestro21:


No offence but this is hogwash. Overwhelming where? You mean health care workers that stopped having shifts since February 2020? You mean health services that are uploading videos dancing in hospitals? You know you cannot fire health care workers during a so-called pandemic? Find out how many health care workers lost their jobs in 2020 alone. I can bring links but you should do your own research.

It must be difficult for you to understand how some specialist healthcare workers like physiotherapists, oncologists, hospital porters, and even nurses, might not be needed because the healthcare system is overwhelmingly treating covid-19 patients.
Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by Maestro21: 11:36pm On Apr 22
budaatum:


It must be difficult for you to understand how some specialist healthcare workers like physiotherapists, oncologists, hospital porters, and even nurses, might not be needed because the healthcare system is overwhelmingly treating covid-19 patients.

LOL
Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by budaatum: 12:02am On Apr 23
Maestro21:


LOL

I've been looking for you and this thread!

budaatum:
I can't find that covid deaths are fake deaths thread so I'm storing these here till I do.

COVID-19 was the third leading cause of death in 2020, with an estimated 345 323 deaths, and was largely responsible for the substantial increase in total deaths from 2019 to 2020.

Most of the increase in deaths from 2019 to 2020 was directly attributed to COVID-19. However, increases were also noted for several other leading causes of death. These increases may indicate, to some extent, underreporting of COVID-19, ie, limited testing in the beginning of the pandemic may have resulted in underestimation of COVID-19 mortality.6 Increases in other leading causes, especially heart disease, Alzheimer disease, and diabetes, may also reflect disruptions in health care that hampered early detection and disease management.

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budaatum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHcY4Vw532Y
Re: Experts In Nigeria Agrees That Covid 19 Is Fiasco by Maestro21: 6:51pm On Apr 26
budaatum:


I've been looking for you and this thread!


There is a reason I despise having conversations with people who conjure up data from the very people designed to mislead and misinform them. In your data for e.g, the COVID19 deaths have a superscript "b" attached to it. The inset at the end explains what that "b" stands for. It summarily says that it is for confirmed and presumed COVID-19 deaths. That they could not tell you the difference between the 2 shows you they have already set out to mislead you.

When we say for e.g that there is no COVID-19 pandemic, that is because we are letting you know that the forced lockdowns, unreasonable medical measures preventing other chronic conditions from being treated etc. did more of the damage than COVID-19 itself. for e.g, you can see the cancer deaths being lower in 2020 than 2019. That is a travesty. More people died of cancer in 2020 as cancer was relegated to the back burner in 2020. There are many reports even from the lame stream media of cancer patients not getting as tested as before. In Nigeria, there was a former NNPC executive that died. He had battled cancer for years and was in his terminal stage. That death was ruled as a COVID-19 death only because he tested positive (via PCR) to the COVID-19 antibody. Is that not incredible? That means that the table for COVID-19 death that had his tally was wrong as that should have fallen under the cancer category.

Of course, there are going to be relatively more deaths when you prevent people from mingling, going out to see relatives, purchase drugs, eat healthy, have regular sunlight, visit doctors. The question is what is directly responsible for the deaths? The disease COVID-19 or reckless measures implemented by governments due to this disease? You be the judge.

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