larrysworld:
Bros, I think you are the one getting this thing wrong. Trump according to the constitution of the United States cannot refuse a US citizen entry into the US. He is obligated under the law to ensure those Americans in China who wants to return to the US are able to do so howbeit in a safe manner.
Please let's get our facts correctly, Trump did not allow them straight into the country. The planes took them to military bases where tests were conducted and some of the citizens were quarantined in various military bases for two weeks before being able to enter the country. The administration took necessary precautions. That is not hubris, it is called a government's responsibility to her citizens wherever they may be.

The Buhari case is pathetic because they made no move to shut down the border to foreigners from the infected areas. Returning citizens should be quarantined but foreigners ought to have been turned back much earlier and border shut. Similar thing is what caused problems in Europe. They suck up to their Chinese masters for too long and boom, Europe became the epicentre.

Nigeria is indeed lucky that we are in a tropical region and according to scientist, survival of the virus, like most viruses is much lower in temperate regions so Africa is not really as hit as Europe and America. The stats in Nigeria are a total lie. I don't think Nigeria do up to 2 thousand tests a a day for a population of 250 million so we don't really have a true picture and we are lucky because we might not need to because of location and also existence malaria antibodies in our blood system, otherwise, it would have been hundreds of thousands of death. America with 350 million people conduct 150 thousand tests a day, we are not even close. But for God who placed us where we are as a nation in Africa, it would have been terrible.

Regarding WHO, don't even go there; a brief research into Tedrus will be a eye opener.

MT:


Please sir, I will humbly request you to read this too:

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/apr/08/donald-trump/trump-said-obama-admin-left-him-bare-stockpile-wro/

larrysworld:
What you sent to me further corroborate what I had said that Obama depleted the national stockpile. I am not sure if you read it before sending but below is a screen grab of the verdict.
It is like a thief caught stealing in a house and he said 'I have only stolen one thing'... isn't that funny that even a left wing newspaper could not defend Obama. Did the Obama admin leave a depleted National Stockpile? This is a True or False question, there is nothing like mostly true or mostly false.

Obama's NIH gave $3.7m grant to the lab in Wuhan starting 2015. Did he pay for the virus? Renegade is a traitor to the American people.

apex636:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/11399039_1604928_png823e985818a76643710a867b63ad5d50

ZINIBANKS:
Have you been to the country before Do you have someone there Have you applied for their visa before and got denied If your answers to my above questions is No Then please don't stop me

GamalNasser:


He handled the pandemic well abeg ...he was the first to issue travel restrictions and then y'all called him a Racist for that ... He advised early lockdown of cities but democrat governors refused and instead kept shouting about respirators they didn't stock and instead wanted to blame the govt for that failure ...He told them about the efficacy of chloroquine but the useless Dems instead placed restrictions in it preferring to use infusions and respirator that caused more deaths ..the stupid Dems now went further and issued a Do not Resuscitate (DNR) order to make sure the death rates were high so they could use it to campaign against Trump ....Tell me why these high deaths are rampart in democrat lead states

Neoteny7:



I dispute your claims that he could not stop american citizens from returning. If he grounds all flights no one can cone in, even US citizens. There are still citizens who'd like to return to their loved ones right now but who cant because of the grounding.

[/font] [color=#990000]That is the law in sane countries and even in Nigeria. You cannot be denied entry to your country of citizenship unless it is revoked. That's the reason western world cannot deport people until they have established their nationality.

I also dispute your claims that all the thousands of returnees were taken to military bases. That is patently false. The planes landed in civilian airports, and all that happened was some of them were screened (meaning their temperatures were observed for signs of fever) because at that point the US had yet to develop its testing kits, since they refused the PCR test kits outlined by the WHO. And the screening applied mostly to Wuhan returnees. None of them was forced into any isolation at any military base whatsoever, and if you've any proof i'd like to see it.

Between January 1 and the time Trump announced his "ban", more than 430,000 americans returned from china. Are you telling us the US, between january and march, had the capacity to test 430k people? NOPE! They couldnt even test 10 thousand back then.

[font=Lucida Sans Unicode]US did not start testings until March because of two reasons (i) The WHO test is compromised/contaminated. It was reading false positives, same was what was sent to Britain before they returned it. (ii) CDC botched the manufacturing of test kits in America because they did not follow protocols. They were not able to manufacture tests for weeks, so Trump resulted to private sector.

[/font]Would you also deny that Trump didnt downplay the threat of the virus, claiming they had it under control? What specifically did he do all of February to contain it?
He did not downplay it but he called out the Democrats for trying to use that outbreak as the next hoax against him.

No scientist has claimed that tropical or warm weather has any adverse effect on the infection rate or virulence of the virus.

There are studies going on regarding this but a Nigerian virologist already mentioned that on a thread here on Nairaland. Don't let anyone fool you, if it is a virus, it will be affected by the weather except it's something other than that.

You may abuse Buhari all you want, and i dont even like the man, but the the fact remains that deep in April we have less than a thousand confirmed cases while the US is leading the world in numbers of infection and death, far higher than china and india who each have 4 times the population of the US. The US already has about a quarter of the global infection.

[font=Lucida Sans Unicode]I never abuse Buhari or anyone and will never. In fact, once a person is abusive I just move out of the thread. I am a believer in people engaging in intellectual discourse. We are bound to disagree but the goal is to share knowledge and generate light not heat.
The reasons the numbers in Nigeria is like that has to do with how many people are tested. The more you test the more you discover. Studies have shown that majority of people might have already caught the virus but they are asymptomatic. India has 4X US population but they test less than 10% of US testing per day. It's just mathematics. If the US were not testing as much, it won't be obvious and just that you may know, the US death rate is false. Even a person who dies of accident is now being count as having died from complications due to Corona Virus. So all other death data in US is way down now because every death is counted as Covid.

The political intricacies surrounding this virus is complex and I don't want to go down the rabbit hole today.

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jchioma:
Donald Trump is campaigning; with elections few months from now, he needs to reiterate some of his usual rhetoric.
He is more like deflecting attention from his failure to arrest the pandemic which he downplayed in the initial phase.

This is fact in the face of a failing economy and the deadly coronavirus projected to kill over 200,000 Americans,
with over 42,000 dead already.

grandstar:


My anger with Trump was that he should have acted much quicker. He tarried!

I don't give a damn about Republicans and Democrats. If he had acted sooner, he would have been praised for it. If the Democrats choose to frustrate his efforts, that's their load.

MT:


Stop being mischievous. Politifact checked the correctness of any statement a politician make. They categorised Trump's statement that Obama depleted the national stockpile as MOSTLY FALSE and yet you chose to disregard that, even with the truth staring you in the face.

They agreed the masks left in the stockpile was inadequate as Obama distributed them during virus outbreak during his tenure but the national stockpile was not depleted as Trump exaggerated. They gave a ruling of Mostly false as to what Trump said. Don't colour the truth, don't twist it, it is never a nice thing to do.

So how did that corroborate your earlier statement that Trump met depleted national stockpile? And what has Trump done in 3 years plus to replenish the inadequate items in the National Stockpile?

Nuel4:
the whole world failed my friend. The whole world is on lockdown not just USA. Everybody miscalculated the severity of the virus it is not just USA. How exactly was he supposed to arrest the pandemic when democrat politicians, including a mayor in New York were encouraging people to go on about social gatherings?

New York is the only reason USA have ugly numbers. New York alone has more cases than Italy and China combined and New York is completely a democrat state and their democrat politicians encouraged their people to live normal lives and have fun.

larrysworld:
He acted soonest. shutting out China was a bold move. Every country knew it needed to be done but no one will bell the cat. The moment Trump did it, Australia followed suite and others as well. Don't believe everything you read in newspaper, they are mostly fake news promulgating the globalist agenda.

Avalancheman:
I thought that was already in place...

Nuel4:
you didn't see the tweets were democrats politicians in New York were urging people to go out and have fun including DeLevin who said if you are not in the rally in Chinatown you are missing out?

EVILFOREST:

UK is already densely Populated, and will shut its borders.
UK, most times follows the US decisions as well as Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
Meanwhile, CANADA will continue as their Total Population is still at 37million, and still has the same Land Mass as the United States.
CANADA is one of the Least populated countries.
Although they wouldn't want to take more than a number that will overwhelm their system.
OYIBO dey think naaa

Daverichie008:


Americans were generally urging people to have fun outside. Republicans also. Till today republican leaders are looking to open the country up. The forum from which you got your information is selecting information to influence your perception.

livelovelaugh:
I don’t blame him. He has to put American citizens first. All those millions of people who have become unemployed have to be attended to. Imagine you’re a citizen of America, you’ll want your president to put you first. It might be unfair to potential immigrants but it is what it is. At least everyone arrived earth with a country. If people keep getting jobless, America won’t be the admiration of outsiders. In New York , we have not been able to step out for more than a month now, imagine those who sustain themselves on daily paid jobs, it’s not been easy anywhere in the world. Stay safe out there folks.

Nuel4:
the whole world failed my friend. The whole world is on lockdown not just USA. Everybody miscalculated the severity of the virus it is not just USA. How exactly was he supposed to arrest the pandemic when democrat politicians, including a mayor in New York were encouraging people to go on about social gatherings?

New York is the only reason USA have ugly numbers. New York alone has more cases than Italy and China combined and New York is completely a democrat state and their democrat politicians encouraged their people to live normal lives and have fun.

GamalNasser:


How did he fail to arrest the pandemic , you leave the glaring failures and sabotage by democrat Governors and want to blame Trump instead.. Americans are wiser now , they know the true enemies

DanjaNinja:


Oga please don’t be offended but your post reeks of ignorance. Please tell me, have you been to America? How do you know the democrats are to blamed? Please open your eyes and read with an open mind. Donald trump failed big time. He disbanded the pandemic response team responsible for pandemics. He failed to use the Presidential emergency act to compel companies to make PPEs and ventilators. Nurses and doctors are relying on PPEs donated by individuals and companies. He also failed to mobilize the CDC to set standardized testing for Coronavirus. Trumps failures are too many to mention. As we speak, Some Republican governors Refused to shut down their respective states. The few who did shut down their states are agitating for speedy reopening. I laugh.

GamalNasser:


CNN told you that ?

MT:


Read what I wrote slowly. No contradiction whatsoever. When I say Ignorant, I mean they do not understand what really go on in other parts of the world. They RARELY travel out of their country. Even within their country, they are not well informed about happenings there. Forget what Hollywood makes you to perceive about Americans, they are quite ignorants and largely uninformed.

kikero:


93 million American citizens traveled outside the US in 2018 alone..

And with those high numbers, many travelled to COVID19 hotspots too

Also, don't forget, internal toruism, Americans travelling to other parts of the country, aids in the spread, then there are the foreign tourists who come in their millions to the US.

Thus, the spread of covid19.

Nigeria?? Not that many of us travel abroad.

Nuel4:
you didn't see the tweets were democrats politicians in New York were urging people to go out and have fun including DeLevin who said if you are not in the rally in Chinatown you are missing out?

livelovelaugh:
I don’t blame him. He has to put American citizens first. All those millions of people who have become unemployed have to be attended to. Imagine you’re a citizen of America, you’ll want your president to put you first. It might be unfair to potential immigrants but it is what it is. At least everyone arrived earth with a country. If people keep getting jobless, America won’t be the admiration of outsiders. In New York , we have not been able to step out for more than a month now, imagine those who sustain themselves on daily paid jobs, it’s not been easy anywhere in the world. Stay safe out there folks.

DanjaNinja:


This argument is sadly false. Immigrants are known leading job creators in the Us.

@Potential immigrants: have you noticed that since Trump became the President, the response to every problem is immigration?

@put Americans first: According to your post, you live in New York. I lived in Connecticut now I’m North Carolina. Please may I ask, Since the “Put Americans first movement”, have you noticed any positive change in the quality of your life? Did you get affordable healthcare? Did you get a salary increase? Did you get more paid sick leave or did you get affordable tuition?

@America admired by outsider: Sorry to burst your bubble. The world is now aware America is nothing but living on past glory. Please tell me what’s to admire about America? In Canada and most European countries, Medical expenses are free. Mandated sick leave exist. College tuition is affordable. Again, tell me, how is America great?

@Daily paid jobs: The fact that people exist in America who live Hand to mouth is a testament to the failed system.

livelovelaugh:

No one said immigrants are not job creators. Point remains the pandemic has caused job loss in large numbers in the US and he saying he is pausing immigration for now to help citizens get more employed is a good move. Even the bible says love your neighbor as yourself not more. Imagine being a citizen of a country and you’re not been put first... his move is a good one. Might be unfair to the outside world but at least everyone arrived earth with a country. Those unemployment claims are too much.. millions!!

larrysworld:


Bros, please read the news below from USA Today, it might be of help to you with regards to your assertion.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/03/fact-check-did-obama-administration-deplete-n-95-mask-stockpile/5114319002/

Also, nobody goes into national stockpile unless there is an epidemic or pandemic, so Trump admin would not have just literally gone there. There are what we call emergency protocols that when certain things are used, they are replenished by the user because people only go there when the need arises and it was empty.

I can counter each point you have listed with facts but I don't have the time now. It is obvious your source of news must be the MSM and it's mostly fake news. Try watch Trump briefing one or twice online, its on Youtube and you will get a better perspective.