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Re: Does The Church I Attend Matter? by davidinchrist(m): 6:45pm On Oct 18
Igbochief001:

Yes muslims claim muhammed is the only way too ...olumba is the only way too , eckanka is the only way too ...I can keep naming yours is only special to u

Alright friend. Goodbye.
Re: Does The Church I Attend Matter? by Igbochief001(m): 6:48pm On Oct 18
davidinchrist:


Alright friend. Goodbye.
See u in hell ...at least muslim hell
Re: Does The Church I Attend Matter? by DAVE5(m): 6:52pm On Oct 18
JMAN05:


'Church won't take you to heaven.' 'In heaven, God will not ask you which church you attended'. 'Be spiritual, not religious, your church doesn't matter, what matters is your heart, after all there are good people in every religion'.

Does that sound similar to what you ve said before? Perhaps you had to say that to someone who finds fault with your church, or who advise that you change your faith. You are not the only one with that opinion. Many who believe it favor non-denominational churches or ministries. They inter-faith with others of different faith. However, what does the Bible say? Does church matter?

At Matt 7:13,14, Jesus spoke about two roads. One leading to life and the other leading to death. Some may posit that the two roads and two gates refer to two types of humans - righteous and unrighteous people - That the bad people are much more than the righteous. But how can that be, if the broad road refers to bad people, how can bad people also go in through it? It's like in Maths, you say let X represent water pipe, and let Y represent water. Then we still come and say water will go in through Y. Is that logical? You can only say Y will go in through X.

Therefore, we can say that the two roads represent true and false religion. Many are in through the false religion, while few are FINDING the true religion. Ok, but that should refer to false religions like Islam, Traditional religions, Hinduism etc. Well, Jesus words continuous, after speaking of false prophets and the good and bad tree, in verses 21-23, he continued.

He said:

"Not everyone saying to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my father who is in the heavens will. 22. Many will say to me in that day: 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name? 23 And then I will declare to them: 'i never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!'.

From the above words of Jesus, we can agree that he was even specifically talking about Christian religion (The good and bad trees). He was contextually positing that false Christian churches will abound, many will flow into it.

Someone will say, 'this refers to those who do the work of God, but they don't live by Bible principles. God can use a pastor, even though the pastor is into sin'. But did we notice what Jesus said above? He said he NEVER knew them. Meaning that God has not been using them all along. 'But' someone may inquire, 'my pastor doesn't use charms, nor any talisman, but he performs many miracles by God's name'.

Yes, Jesus says such people will exist, they will perform powerful works by Jesus name. But Jesus doesn't use them.

But can't I be in such a church and still follow my Bible?

Can we consider that next..

Going to a particular church doesn’t grant heaven, what guarantees heaven is you and the grace of God, that being said, if you’re a church that doesn’t follow bible teaching and principles, you need to distance yourself cos they would influence you no matter how rooted you think you are in your spiritual life, go somewhere that upholds Christian values because they say iron sharpeneth iron meaning a good church would keep your fire burning and make you even better but a bad one would break you

Btw, me I be sinner man ohh and I know, but please don’t quiz me on that cos I won’t reply you, we’ll keep the topic on churching like you started
Re: Does The Church I Attend Matter? by BreconHills: 7:06pm On Oct 18
LadyExcellency:


What does Grace of God teach?

I quoted the bible and a canal mind you are start disputing the bible thinking they were mine.

Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:
Hebrews 12:14 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/heb.12.14.KJV

True but what is the basis of the believers holiness? If a person who has not pledged allegiance to the Lordship of Christ lives peacefully with all men and avoids all known sin is he saved? Surely not.

The letter to the Hebrews that you quote at chapter 12 already lists the preminence of Jesus and the need to surrender to his claims well before you get to the chapter 12 you quote from.

Your quote is not a basis for heaven but the continuance of faith that has already commenced.

And by the way if you are a believer, you do not throw things like "carnal" mind at other believers simply because I queried your point.
Re: Does The Church I Attend Matter? by LadyExcellency: 7:14pm On Oct 18
BreconHills:


True but what is the basis of the believers holiness? If a person who has not pledged allegiance to the Lordship of Christ lives peacefully with all men and avoids all known sin is he saved? Surely not.

The letter to the Hebrews that you quote at chapter 12 already lists the preminence of Jesus and the need to surrender to his claims well before you get to the chapter 12 you quote from.

Your quote is not a basis for heaven but the continuance of faith that has already commenced.

And by the way if you are a believer, you do not throw things like "carnal" mind at other believers simply because I queried your point.

First, I apologise for the tag. Accept my regrets.

We were talking about the Church (the Assembly of the redeemed by the blood of Jesus Christ) as the topic enlisted. Not the world.

For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
Titus 2:11‭-‬14 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/tit.2.11-14.KJV
Re: Does The Church I Attend Matter? by heendrix(m): 7:23pm On Oct 18
Righteousness89 I'm confused do you think it's a bad thing for Christians to get involved in Forex trading??

I feel confused atm
Re: Does The Church I Attend Matter? by davidinchrist(m): 8:48pm On Oct 18
Igbochief001:

See u in hell ...at least muslim hell

No sir!

I have ZERO interest in going there, and that's why I try to keep a clear conscience.

It's a matter of choice you know. Do you know how many as gone down into hell today alone. God doesn't stop anyone if they want to. Friend, you don't believe in Jesus, and you don't fear God either. You wouldn't wish your worse enemies hell if you knew God.

Hebrews 10:31 KJV
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Anyway, I'm done. You don't need to quote me anymore.

Thanks.
Re: Does The Church I Attend Matter? by freeborn02: 11:09pm On Oct 18
psucc:
By their fruits, you will know them. And this is the kind of "Christian" we're talking about. They are open to all forms of doctrines to practice them, calling on the name of God but in their heart they are filled with filth.

God have mercy!

You are suffering from spiritual arrogance.

Your dumb comment about C&S indicates that you are as dirty and empty as the worst sinners on earth.

Dumb idiot hide in their Pentecostal churches thinking that any other church is ungodly.

Dumb fools call themselves Christians and they will be condemning others. Who even told you that you will make heaven? Idiot
Re: Does The Church I Attend Matter? by freeborn02: 11:13pm On Oct 18
itzmarvyx:

Agreed. Thank God for technology but you'll agree with me that there's this corporate anointing and atmosphere that abounds when brethren gather together to sing and pray to God that cannot be substituted for Christian messages and video.

Not so bro. The power of faith can transcend space and make you a partaker of the grace and anointing that abound in the Christian gathering even if you are not there physically. All you need to do is place your hands on your TV and connect in the Spirit.

Don't forget that worshipping God in the Spirit and truth is all that matters.
Re: Does The Church I Attend Matter? by OjiChijioke997: 1:32am On Oct 19
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Re: Does The Church I Attend Matter? by BreconHills: 7:37am On Oct 19
LadyExcellency:


First, I apologise for the tag. Accept my regrets.

We were talking about the Church (the Assembly of the redeemed by the blood of Jesus Christ) as the topic enlisted. Not the world.

For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
Titus 2:11‭-‬14 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/tit.2.11-14.KJV


Thank you for the clarification and may we meet before Jesus throne one day. Praised by His mighty name

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Re: Does The Church I Attend Matter? by nairanaira12: 9:08am On Oct 19
WILLuKPquiet:


I beg to disagreed. What baba did was not "ise" it was simply demonstration of Gods power. What Christ did also . Not doing babalawo work. Going to collect charms from babalawo to heal church members.

Can you in your own word state the difference between babalawo work and "demonstration of God's power"? Kindly respond.
Re: Does The Church I Attend Matter? by nairanaira12: 9:10am On Oct 19
Jeezuzpick:


Please leave your current Church and go to Indabosky's Church.

After all, Church no matter.

If you attend a Church and your Pastor is an "Ayamatanga", tell me if it is not that spirit he will be imparting on you every Sunday!

Does indabosky confess and preach Jesus Christ as Lord and savior? If he doesn't, I've got no business in his church
Re: Does The Church I Attend Matter? by nairanaira12: 9:15am On Oct 19
Akolawole:


Well... You may be sincere but may be sincerely wrong.

1) I am not a member of RCCG but Pastor Adeboye is a general in the body of Christ. He will NEVER make a DOCTRINE on sending handkerchief every now and then.

In few instances you sited above are one-off situations which happened via leading of God. No Servants of God should make that a doctrine.

2) Anything Jesus Christ and his immediate lieutenants(Apostles) did NOT do, we cannot do it. Afterall, we called ourself Christians

Regards

Lolz.

1. Either one-off or several, it doesn't matter. All that matters is that it happened. And the one I narrated above is the only one me I heard. Only God knows how many times such would have happened.

2. Bear in mind that Jesus said "...... greater things shall they do." So, it is not out of place for Christians to perform miracles that Jesus and the Apostles did not perform.
Re: Does The Church I Attend Matter? by psucc(m): 9:37am On Oct 19
freeborn02:


You are suffering from spiritual arrogance.

Your dumb comment about C&S indicates that you are as dirty and empty as the worst sinners on earth.

Dumb idiot hide in their Pentecostal churches thinking that any other church is ungodly.

Dumb fools call themselves Christians and they will be condemning others. Who even told you that you will make heaven? Idiot
Are you sure you are responding to the right post? In all my comments, I have not made mention of any church, sir.

Aside what we profess to be, insulting others is a clear sign of immaturity and ill- upbringing.
Re: Does The Church I Attend Matter? by freeborn02: 10:04am On Oct 19
psucc:
Are you sure you are responding to the right post? In all my comments, I have not made mention of any church, sir.

Aside what we profess to be, insulting others is a clear sign of immaturity and ill- upbringing.

You should be happy that all you got for your hypocrisy and rubbish is just an insult. Yeah boy, you got a light sentence for your hypocrisy and blindness
Re: Does The Church I Attend Matter? by psucc(m): 3:43pm On Oct 19
freeborn02:


You should be happy that all you got for your hypocrisy and rubbish is just an insult. Yeah boy, you got a light sentence for your hypocrisy and blindness
Sadly enough, you may not even be able to speak where I am. It is freedom that you are enjoying. Text, type and comment.

I may be a hypocrite before you but telling the truth has never been synonymous with hypocrisy.
Re: Does The Church I Attend Matter? by freeborn02: 5:44pm On Oct 19
psucc:
Sadly enough, you may not even be able to speak where I am. It is freedom that you are enjoying. Text, type and comment.

I may be a hypocrite before you but not telling the truth has never been synonymous with hypocrisy.

You just proved me right. There is arrogance in your life. It showed in the way you condemned other churches and it just showed in the way you assume yourself to be better than others.

I wonder who is deceiving you that you are better than anybody.

Your life is empty and hollow. You are not better than the worst sinners on earth.
Re: Does The Church I Attend Matter? by psucc(m): 8:27pm On Oct 19
freeborn02:


You just proved me right. There is arrogance in your life. It showed in the way you condemned other churches and it just showed in the way you assume yourself to be better than others.

I wonder who is deceiving you that you are better than anybody.

Your life is empty and hollow. You are not better than the worst sinners on earth.
I don't think you even read through my posts before coming forth to attack. Please kindly go through them again, you will be glad to know that you are actually misfiring.

It doesn't take much to read. Please read between lines.

Maranatha!
Re: Does The Church I Attend Matter? by freeborn02: 10:32pm On Oct 19
psucc:
I don't think you even read through my posts before coming forth to attack. Please kindly go through them again, you will be glad to know that you are actually misfiring.

It doesn't take much to read. Please read between lines.

Maranatha!

Your hypocrisy and spiritual arrogance are obvious enough. It's strange you can't even see them.

If your are too blind to see through yourself, do you think you qualify to judge the acceptability of other people's churches to God?
Re: Does The Church I Attend Matter? by psucc(m): 6:21am On Oct 20
freeborn02:


Your hypocrisy and spiritual arrogance are obvious enough. It's strange you can't even see them.

If your are too blind to see through yourself, do you think you qualify to judge the acceptability of other people's churches to God?
Ok. Done. Please can you quote the post(s) that pissed you off?

But I still maintain my stand that "some Churches are reservoirs for Hell �". This is not disputable! It is factual. For example, just a couple of weeks ago, a court in Ondo State sentenced a Prophet over a missing child in his church. And you tell me that such a person is preparing you for heaven?

Don't be so bitter, Old Prophet.
Re: Does The Church I Attend Matter? by freeborn02: 6:25am On Oct 20
psucc:
Ok. Done. Please can you quote the post(s) that pissed you off?

But I still maintain my stand that "some Churches are reservoirs for Hell �". This is not disputable! It is factual. For example, just a couple of weeks ago, a court in Ondo State sentenced a Prophet over a missing child in his church. And you tell me that such a person is preparing you for heaven?

Don't be so bitter, Old Prophet.

And I hope you have evidence that the prophet killed or kidnapped the child?

How many churches have you personally visited and worshipped in? How many of them do you know personally?

Are your assumptions based on personal experiences or you are just judging them by what others tell you? Only a dumb man will condemn others when he doesn't personally experience them.
Re: Does The Church I Attend Matter? by ONIMARINE(m): 2:10am On Oct 21
Newman20:
Religion is a scam designed to make you waste your time worshipping a false god.

Be at alert!!!


Don't let any false christian OP deceive you.
yap
Re: Does The Church I Attend Matter? by ONIMARINE(m): 2:12am On Oct 21
Religion is a scam designed to make you waste your time worshipping a false god.

Be at alert!!!


Don't let any false christian OP deceive you.
yap
Re: Does The Church I Attend Matter? by itzmarvyx(m): 2:23pm On Oct 21
freeborn02:


Not so bro. The power of faith can transcend space and make you a partaker of the grace and anointing that abound in the Christian gathering even if you are not there physically. All you need to do is place your hands on your TV and connect in the Spirit.

Don't forget that worshipping God in the Spirit and truth is all that matters.
Perhaps you have not really stayed in the midst of the brethren dwelling together and eating together in unity or you are not being truthful to yourself but have it your way. Trust me, nothing can beat physical fellowship. Quote me anywhere. Cheers.
Re: Does The Church I Attend Matter? by freeborn02: 2:38pm On Oct 21
itzmarvyx:

Perhaps you have not really stayed in the midst of the brethren dwelling together and eating together in unity or you are not being truthful to yourself but have it your way. Trust me, nothing can beat physical fellowship. Quote me anywhere. Cheers.

Things have changed these days. You can become a sound Christian even without leaving home. Those videos and message CDs can work wonders

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