The world is filled with highly corrupt and corruptible people and this sadly includes those we are expected to trust our health with -Medical workers.

From the shameless display of the current WHO (which by the way is headed by a non-medical practitioner and a communist to boot) that has allowed all its policies to be dictated by Bill Gates (Billy boy by the way is the largest contributor to WHO ) and even our own predictably corrupt NCDC and current health minister alongside the Nigerian Medical Association, it is suffice to say that there is by and large a conspiracy to deny any treatment or curative for Corona virus and top of this list is Hydrochloroquine.

To understand why they don't want you treated but rather vaccinated is to delve deep into the corruption cesspit that Bill Gates has infected the Medical and pharmacological sector.

Even in this same forum, the Moderators where on overdrive censoring, deleting and banning any one who posts on hydrochloroquine treatment as an effective drug.

Have you asked why they are so sure of a vaccine for CoVid-19 but are not interested in a vaccine for HIV? They will never offer a vaccine for HIV because HIV is their own weapon to cut down the world's population. Also when has curative been relegated below vaccines? It is common knowledge that vaccines are only considered where the contagion can not be cured or controlled in a given population, case in example the wild polio virus that is pandemic in the squalor and filth of a typical third world slum.


Here I will post again quoting reputable sources which the Satanic Jewish controlled MSMs, your useless government and the bought and paid for NL moderators are desperately censoring and hiding from you.

Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) was accepted as a COVID-19 treatment by the medical community in the US and worldwide by early April. 67% of the US physicians said they would prescribe HCQ or chloroquine CQ for COVID-19 to a family member (Town Hall, 2020-04-08). An international poll of doctors rated HCQ the most effective coronavirus treatment (NY Post, 2020-04-02). On April 6, Peter Navarro told CNN that “Virtually Every COVID-19 Patient In New York Is Given Hydroxychloroquine.” This might explain decrease in COVID-19 deaths in the New York state after April 15. The time lag is because COVID-19 deaths happen on average 14 days after showing symptoms.

But on April 21, several perfectly coordinated events took place, attacking HCQ’s use for COVID-19 patients.

1. The COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel of the National Institute of Health issued recommendations with negative-ambivalent stance regarding the use of HCQ as a COVID-19 treatment. This surprising stance was taken contrary to the ample evidence of the efficacy and safety of HCQ and despite absence evidence of its harm. The panel also strongly recommended against the use of hydroxychloroquine with azithromycin (AZ), the combination of choice among practitioners.

2. On the same day, a paper (Magagnoli, 2020) was posted on a pre-print server medRxiv, insinuating that HCQ is not only ineffective, but even harmful. This not-yet peer reviewed paper, by unqualified authors with conflicts of interest, received wall-to-wall media coverage, as it if were a cancer cure. It used data from Veterans Administration hospitals, spicing its effects. The paper has shown to be somewhere between junk science and fraud.

3. Rick Bright, a government official who was probably more responsible for the low level of preparedness to the epidemic than most others, and had been re-assigned to a lower position earlier, emerged as a “whistleblower.” He claimed he had been demoted for opposing hydroxychloroquine, the claim to be soon debunked by documents bearing his signature. The media also gave him a wall-to-wall coverage.

On April 24, the FDA struck its own blow, issuing a stern warning against use of HCQ for COVID-19 treatment.

While these warnings are not binding to doctors, they do produce a chilling effect. Consequently, either patients do not receive necessary treatment, or they receive it with a delay, sharper decreasing its effect. This allows detractors to question HCQ efficacy even more aggressively. Below, I review problems in the NIH COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines and other sources, used to wage anti-HCQ propaganda.

The relevant section of (COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel, 2020) is Potential Antiviral Drugs. The antiviral treatment recommendations (more accurately, failure to provide recommendations) include:

“Remdesivir

There are insufficient clinical data to recommend either for or against the use of the investigational antiviral agent remdesivir for the treatment of COVID-19 (AIII).

Clinical Data to Date:

Only anecdotal data are available.“

“AIII” means a strong position based on expert opinion rather than on evidence.

“Chloroquine or Hydroxychloroquine

There are insufficient clinical data to recommend either for or against using chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine for the treatment of COVID-19 (AIII).
When chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine is used, clinicians should monitor the patient for adverse effects (AEs), especially prolonged QTc interval (AIII).

Clinical Data in COVID-19

The clinical data available to date on the use of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19 have been mostly from use in patients with mild, and in some cases, moderate disease; data on use of the drugs in patients with severe and critical COVID-19 are very limited.

Notice that CQ and HCQ are addressed together, although these are two different drugs, and HCQ is clearly superior to CQ both in efficiency and safety.

Also notice that the basic recommendation of “insufficient clinical data to recommend either for or against” is given to both HCQ and Remdesivir. However, the recommendation for HCQ goes further to state that when using HCQ, “clinicians should monitor the patient for adverse effects (AEs), especially prolonged QTc interval”. Practically, this means that HCQ should be used only in hospital settings. No such restrictions are set for Remdesivir, for which there is no clinical data available. It goes against all logic.

The demand to use HCQ only in hospital settings means:

1. HCQ treatment will be delayed until a patient decides to be admitted to a hospital, thus lowering HCQ’s efficiency

2. Hospitals will quickly become overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients

Then the Panel nixes HCQ+AZ:

“Hydroxychloroquine plus Azithromycin

The COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel recommends against the use of hydroxychloroquine plus azithromycin for the treatment of COVID-19, except in the context of a clinical trial (AIII).“

This drug combination is the most effective and widely used treatment for COVID-19, and the Panel recommends against it!

Our very own NCDC and Ministry of Health is taking these guidelines as doctrine but a little step further by banning any form of treatment outside their designated ''isolation centers''. They've also sent a strong word of warning to the NMA to inform all its members NOT to treat patients who show up with CoVid-19 symptoms or are diagnosed of having it.

The reason for this is to crowd all patients into their Isolation hell holes offering no treatment whatsoever beyond alleviates.

This is deliberate.

The NCDC wants to record a surge in not only infections but also deaths inorder to force the vaccine solution which Bill Gates has effectively bribed them to push in Nigeria.

While you

OK2NVME:
The relevant section of (COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel, 2020) is Potential Antiviral Drugs. The antiviral treatment recommendations (more accurately, failure to provide recommendations) include:



Notice that CQ and HCQ are addressed together, although these are two different drugs, and HCQ is clearly superior to CQ both in efficiency and safety.

Also notice that the basic recommendation of “insufficient clinical data to recommend either for or against” is given to both HCQ and Remdesivir. However, the recommendation for HCQ goes further to state that when using HCQ, “clinicians should monitor the patient for adverse effects (AEs), especially prolonged QTc interval”. Practically, this means that HCQ should be used only in hospital settings. No such restrictions are set for Remdesivir, for which there is no clinical data available. It goes against all logic.

You misrepresent Remdesvir: there is actually clinical evidence. As for HCQ, there is also clinical evidence showing increased fatality rates post-use. Please do some research. If in doubt, I can point you to these studies. Stop with the conspiracy theories, some people are foolish enough to believe you and might harm themselves. That SHOULD be on you but Privity is in your favor.

OK2NVME:
The world is filled with highly corrupt and corruptible people and this sadly includes those we are expected to trust our health with -Medical workers.

From the shameless display of the current WHO (which by the way is headed by a non-medical practitioner and a communist to boot) that has allowed all its policies to be dictated by Bill Gates (Billy boy by the way is the largest contributor to WHO ) and even our own predictably corrupt NCDC and current health minister alongside the Nigerian Medical Association, it is suffice to say that there is by and large a conspiracy to deny any treatment or curative for Corona virus and top of this list is Hydrochloroquine.

To understand why they don't want you treated but rather vaccinated is to delve deep into the corruption cesspit that Bill Gates has infected the Medical and pharmacological sector.

Even in this same forum, the Moderators where on overdrive censoring, deleting and banning any one who posts on hydrochloroquine treatment as an effective drug.

Have you asked why they are so sure of a vaccine for CoVid-19 but are not interested in a vaccine for HIV? They will never offer a vaccine for HIV because HIV is their own weapon to cut down the world's population. Also when has curative been relegated below vaccines? It is common knowledge that vaccines are only considered where the contagion can not be cured or controlled in a given population, case in example the wild polio virus that is pandemic in the squalor and filth of a typical third world slum.


Here I will post again quoting reputable sources which the Satanic Jewish controlled MSMs, your useless government and the bought and paid for NL moderators are desperately censoring and hiding from you.

A conspiracy even bigger than the US president?

Dtribeless:
While you

You misrepresent Remdesvir: there is actually clinical evidence. As for HCQ, there is also clinical evidence showing increased fatality rates post-use. Please do some research. If in doubt, I can point you to these studies.

Big fcking lie.

Bala Mohammed (Governor of Bauchi) stated categorically that he was put on a combination of anti-malaria drugs and anti-biotics plus a heavy regimen of vitamins.

When has HCQ killed any one?

This is a drug that was up till February 2020 was sold over the counter in Europe.

HCQ has never posed any serious threat or hazard to anyone since its over 50 years it was released.

Your Governors, Ministers and legislators are taking HCQ as both a prophylactic (some thing I did for close to 10 years when I was at boarding house and university) while you are here listening to the paid agents of Bill Gates.

Dtribeless:
While you

You misrepresent Remdesvir: there is actually clinical evidence. As for HCQ, there is also clinical evidence showing increased fatality rates post-use. Please do some research. If in doubt, I can point you to these studies. Stop with the conspiracy theories, some people are foolish enough to believe you and might harm themselves. That SHOULD be on you but Privity is your favor.

Even with remdesivir, the effect is TINY.

It is not a cure it and honestly is marginally better than placebo.
The available data would not normally secure approval for example I saw a study with a NNT number needed to treat of 28 meaning to achieve 1 result you need to treat 28 people. O
In other words 27 would show no response.
.

No bank would allow you 28 tries at getting the right PIN before blocking your card

omonnakoda:


A conspiracy even bigger than the US president?

POTUS has no power.

There is a powerful 5th columnist that are running the show in the US since WW2.

The only president that tried to uproot them caught a bullet to his dome.

OK2NVME:


POTUS has no power.

There is a powerful 5th columnist that are running the show in the US since WW2.

The only president that tried to uproot them caught a bullet to his dome.

How do you know all this?

omonnakoda:


Even with remdesivir, the effect is TINY.

It is not a cure it and honestly is marginally better than placebo.
The available data would not normally secure approval for example I saw a study with a NNT number needed to treat of 28 meaning to achieve 1 result you need to treat 28 people. O
I other words 27 would show no response.
.

No bank would allow you 28 tries at getting the right PIN before blocking your card

I'm not disputing some of what you've said, but to say there is no clinical evidence one way or another is FALSE.

OK2NVME:


POTUS has no power.

There is a powerful 5th columnist that are running the show in the US since WW2.

The only president that tried to uproot them caught a bullet to his dome.

Who's that person? Who are you and how do you know the person running show?. Tell us, Wiseguy!

omonnakoda:


How do you know all this?

Dtribeless:


Who's that person? Who are you and how do you know the person running show?. Tell us, Wiseguy!

The Council of Foreign Relations (CFR), the Bilderberg Group with much help from the CIA, AIPAC and other shadowy organizations like Mossad run the show.

If in doubt, does Trump look like he is actually in charge?

Do a cursory research on the CFR and you will see how they are the only group that is powerful enough to summon POTUS.

As for the Bilderberg Group, since 1954, this mafia holds annual meetings which agendas are never disclosed to the public.

OK2NVME:




The Council of Foreign Relations (CFR), the Bilderberg Group with much help from the CIA, AIPAC and other shadowy organizations like Mossad run the show.

If in doubt, those Trump look like he is actually in charge?

Do a cursory research on the CFR and you will see how they are the only group that is powerful enough to summon POTUS.

As for the Bilderberg Group, since 1954, this mafia holds annual meetings which agendas are never disclosed to the public.

The Bilderberg group is no doubt a powerful institution, as it includes former world leaders, including OBJ. But you have no evidence that they run the world. If you do please provide. I also know the CFR, they do NOT tell the US Senate what to do, my friend.

Dtribeless:


The Bilderberg group is no doubt a powerful institution, as it includes former world leaders, including OBJ. But you have no evidence that they run the world. If you do please provide. I also know the CFR, they do NOT tell the US Senate what to do, my friend.

I will be posting on the CFR for your consumption... although I digress from the main point of this thread.

OK2NVME:


I will be posting on the CFR for your consumption... although I digress from the main point of this thread.

Please don't post anything on the CFR as everything you'd be posting will be open source. If you can give an example of how you found out about their influence that will do. Waiting.......

THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS

"Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of a day; but a series of oppressions, begun at a distinguished period and pursued unalterably through every change of ministers, too plainly prove a deliberate, systematical plan of reducing us to slavery."

The above quote is from Thomas Jefferson who was the very first to warn the newly liberated American public of a conspiracy by men bounded by secrecy and a common goal to seize powers for themselves.

Jefferson attempted to answer the question of those who wonder why nothing changes when they vote in a change in the American government by
voting for the opposition party. He says, in essence, that if nothing changes, it is fair to presume that there is a conspiracy.

There are many who believe that the major reason nothing changes during changes in administrations is the Council on Foreign Relations, (the
CFR) formed on July 29, 1921, in New York City.

Although the organization today has about 2,000 members representing the most elite in government, labor, business, finance, communications and
the academy, it is not well known to the American people. The major reason it is basically unknown is because of Article II of the
CFR by-laws.

This article requires that the meetings of the membership remain secret, and anyone releasing the contents of these meetings is subject
to instant dismissal.

The CFR was founded by a group of "intellectuals" who felt that there was a need for world government and that the people of America were not
ready for it. After the League of Nations treaty failed to pass the Senate, the founders of the CFR organized this association for the specific purpose of
conditioning the people to accept a world government as being a desirable solution to the problems of the world.

The founders included many of those who had been at the signing of the Treaty of Versailles after the end of World War I and included: Colonel
Edward Mandell House, Walter Lippmann, later to become one of the Liberal Establishment's favorite syndicated columnist; John Foster Dulles, later to become President Eisenhower's Secretary of State; Allen Dulles, later to become the director of the Central Intelligence Agency; and Christian Herter, later to become Dulles' successor as Secretary of State.

Money for the founding of the CFR came from J.P. Morgan; John D. Rockefeller; Bernard Baruch; Paul Warburg; Otto Kahn; and Jacob Schiff,
amongst others.

The CFR has repeatedly told the American people what their goals are through their publications, one of which is a magazine called Foreign Affairs. In addition, they frequently print position papers, one of which was called Study No. 7, published on November 25,1959. This document detailed
the exact purpose of the CFR as advocating the "building (of) a new international order (which) may be responsible to world aspirations for
peace (and) for social and economic change An international order including states labelling themselves as Socialist (Communist)."

The words "a new international order' are the catch words for a world government.

OK2NVME:




The Council of Foreign Relations (CFR), the Bilderberg Group with much help from the CIA, AIPAC and other shadowy organizations like Mossad run the show.

If in doubt, does Trump look like he is actually in charge?

Do a cursory research on the CFR and you will see how they are the only group that is powerful enough to summon POTUS.

As for the Bilderberg Group, since 1954, this mafia holds annual meetings which agendas are never disclosed to the public.

The question is HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS?

Dtribeless:


I'm not disputing some of what you've said, but to say there is no clinical evidence one way or another is FALSE.

I am not sure what you are saying with this sentence maybe you could be clearer.
What is your point?

The CFR has made its presence known in Washington D.C., since its early inception in 1925.

Its roster of members has, for a generation Under Republican and Democratic administrations alike, been the chief recruiting ground for cabinet level officials in Washington.

A typical comment about how the CFR is utilized came from John McCloy, a member of the CFR, who became Secretary of War Henry Stimson's Assistant Secretary in charge of personnel. McCloy has recalled:
"Whenever we needed a man we thumbed through the roll of the Council members and put through a call to New York (the headquarters of the
CFR.)".

Mr. McCloy's recollections about how the CFR has filled important governmental positions is indeed correct.

Of the eighteen Secretaries of the Treasury since 1921, twelve have been members of the CFR.

Another twelve of the sixteen Secretaries of State have been members.

The Department of Defense, created in 1947, has had fifteen Secretaries, including nine CFR members. And the Central Intelligence Agency, also
created in 1947, has had eleven directors, seven of whom belonged to the CFR.

Six of the seven Superintendents of West Point, every Supreme Allied Commander in Europe, and every U.S. Ambassador to N.A.T.O. have been
members of the CFR.

Other positions in the executive branch of government have not gone without notice by the CFR as well. There are four key positions in every
administration, both Democratic and Republican, that have almost always been filled by members of the CFR. They are: National Security Advisor,

Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, and Secretary of the Treasury.

Even Trump's frontline man ''tackling'' the CoVid-19, (Dr Fauci) who times without number has chosen to overule and contradict POTUS is a member of CFR.

Trump's firing spree early in his administration was to weed out Council members or their plants. The entire impeachment saga was planed and directed by CFR using CFR tools like Vindman, Mueller and co.

omonnakoda:


The question is HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS?

Ask yourself how a C-list actor (Ronald Reagan) became POTUS.

How did a known philandering child rapist like Clinton and his despicable wife get to the WH?

How did a CIA director who so happened to have been central in the assassination of JFK become President and later have his imbecilic son as well.

Ask how an obscure black Muslim homosexual who was not born in the US suddenly out of no way get to be the President?

omonnakoda:


Even with remdesivir, the effect is TINY.

It is not a cure it and honestly is marginally better than placebo.
The available data would not normally secure approval for example I saw a study with a NNT number needed to treat of 28 meaning to achieve 1 result you need to treat 28 people. O
I other words 27 would show no response.
.

No bank would allow you 28 tries at getting the right PIN before blocking your card

Shut up!!! You have formed the habit of punching above your weight class. The test of drug to ascertain the potency is not parallel or the same as punching Card PIN. The combination of anti-malaria drugs and anti-biotic have proven 90% effective in combating Wuhan virus. The opposition to the acceptance anti-malaria drug is normal in the real world.

OK2NVME:


Ask yourself how a C-list actor (Ronald Reagan) became POTUS.

How did a known philandering child rapist like Clinton and his despicable wife get to the WH?

How did a CIA director who so happened to have been central in the assassination of JFK become President and later have his imbecilic son as well.

Ask how an obscure black Muslim homosexual who was not born in the US suddenly out of no way get to be the President?

What has that got to do with what I asked you?

How do you know?

Dedetwo:


Shut up!!! You have formed the habit of punching above your weight class. The test of drug to ascertain the potency is not parallel to punching Card PIN. The combination of anti-malaria drugs and anti-biotic have proven 90% effective in combating Wuhan virus. The opposition to the acceptance anti-malaria drug is normal in the real world.

The person you quoted was referring to the HIV drug and not HCQ.

omonnakoda:

What has that got to do with what I asked you?

How do you know?

How did you know how to read and write?

It is through that same way I know.

OK2NVME:


The person you quoted was referring to the HIV drug and not HCQ.

Bros the person stated his usual crap with "Remdesivir ".

omonnakoda:


I am not sure what you are saying with this sentence maybe you could be clearer.
What is your point?

I'm saying while the efficacy of Remsedivir appears low, there is clinical evidence that shows that and not just expert opinion as the OP suggested.

Dedetwo:


Shut up!!! You have formed the habit of punching above your weight class. The test of drug to ascertain the potency is not parallel to punching Card PIN. The combination of anti-malaria drugs and anti-biotic have proven 90% effective in combating Wuhan virus. The opposition to the acceptance anti-malaria drug is normal in the real world.

You are rude and mannerless

Do you know what Number Needed to Treat is?

I know you just want to be noticed.

The published study I referred to declared a number needed to treat of 28.

To achieve an outcome measure of Time to recovery in the placebo group of 15 days versus 11 days in treatment group

There really is no need to start howling like an oestral hyena.

If you are capable of having an intelligent discussion on the issues raised ,fine,let's go there. Otherwise close your putrid mouth.
You saying I am punching against my weight exemplifies the envious spirit that possesses your people.

Let us discuss the studies if you have the cerebral capacity otherwise slither back into the hole you crawled out from

OK2NVME:


Ask yourself how a C-list actor (Ronald Reagan) became POTUS.

How did a known philandering child rapist like Clinton and his despicable wife get to the WH?

How did a CIA director who so happened to have been central in the assassination of JFK become President and later have his imbecilic son as well.

Ask how an obscure black Muslim homosexual who was not born in the US suddenly out of no way get to be the President?

Reagan was a governor of California before being president. C-list actor? Dude, do better research and you will not be peddling conspiracy theories (cheap ones at that). How is Barack Obama a black muslim homosexual? With 2 kids and went to Rev. Wright's church for many years? Jesus bro! You are facing the wrong direction. Use this time to learn good skills -- trading options for example. My God are you lost.

Even though Chloroquine and Artemisinin is showing great 100 percent result against COVID global satanist dont want the truth out because. It will disrupt their agenda

Dtribeless:


I'm saying while the efficacy of Remsedivir appears low, there is clinical evidence that shows that and not just expert opinion as the OP suggested.

The studies I have seen are quite weak where they show an effect and others have shown no effect

Looking at the outcome measures used helps focus the mind on WHAT EXACTLY does the drug do when it works

An outcome measure of

Time to recovery


Does not indicate cure


The other thing to think about is what group of patients e.g

1. Positive patients with no symptoms
2. Positive patients with mild symptoms
3. Hospitalised patients with moderate symptoms
4. Patients with severe symptoms in Intensive Care


1 study is not enough with pooling several together or doing RCTs

When information is presented to the public it can be misleading


The truth is there is little evidence now to justify widespread adoption as a public health intervention

Dtribeless:


Reagan was a governor of California before being president. C-list actor? Dude, do better research and you will not be peddling conspiracy theories (cheap ones at that). How is Barack Obama a black muslim homosexual? With 2 kids and went to Rev. Wright's church for many years? Jesus bro! You are facing the wrong direction. Use this time to learn good skills -- trading options for example. My God are you lost.

Ahh yes. Commiefornia. The state that elevated Charlatans as gods.

Can you honestly compare the league of Presidents from JFK downwards to those that came afterwards?

No.

POTUS was once meant for the most cerebral and accomplished men of US citizenry. Obama, Reagan and Clinton do not match up. They are tools. PR faces for the real powers that run America.