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Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by olagbola45(m): 5:34pm On May 14, 2020 |
tamdun: Are yoi from ilorin? |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by Ayekotoo(m): 5:36pm On May 14, 2020 |
Rauf Aregbesola, despite being a Muslim, he's a true omoluabi Yoruba. 1 Like
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Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by Ayekotoo(m): 5:45pm On May 14, 2020 |
tamdun: Laugh won kee me at the bolded |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by EsomahJD: 5:58pm On May 14, 2020 |
orisa37: So Yorubas are claiming Abuja also? |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by orisa37: 5:31am On May 15, 2020 |
EsomahJD: NO. DIVIDE ABUJA INTO FOUR EQUAL PARTS. THE S.W. BELONGS TO ODUDUWA LAND. 1 Like |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by orisa37: 5:54am On May 15, 2020 |
Muna4real: PA PA PAPA PA. MOST OF OUR HEROES PAST HAVE DONE MORE THAN BUHARI CAN JUST WISH AWAY. HISTORY WILL BLOW THEM OUT MAYBE AFTER BUHARI. IT'S BEYOND THE CABAL MAFIA. |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by myobjective: 7:11am On May 15, 2020 |
orisa37: He is right. Abuja is the name of the king of Suleja when Abuja was carved out of Suleja. Though the real name of the King was Abubakar and he came from Zaria, reasons why Suleja emirate is "Zauzau " till date. Abuja is a gbagwi land and situation in the centre of Nigeria called north central today 1 Like |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by myobjective: 7:14am On May 15, 2020 |
Ayekotoo: Many are not. You haven't been to Ilorin obviously. How can religious extremist co-exist with both Christians and traditionalist in their midst? All past Kwara state governor has Christians wife, including the incumbent. Ilorin is not so different from any Yoruba town with a Muslim majority. Ilorin act and behave like every other Yoruba that practices Islam. 3 Likes |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by myobjective: 7:20am On May 15, 2020 |
Ayekotoo: The Fulani stock in Ilorin is very small and limited to the ruling Family and some influential people. A great majority of Ilorin people are of Oyo Yoruba descent (about 90%) while the minority has a substantial Fulani, Hausa, Kanuri and Nupe ancestry (like 10%), these groups are now undifferentiable from the average Yoruba. The dress code has northern influence majorly due to being politically in the north and being majorly a Mulsim town. An average Ilorin man speaks Yoruba (Oyo dialect) better than, eastern Yorubas like Ondo, Ekiti, Ijebu etc). A trip to Ilorin will throw more lights on my explanation. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by myobjective: 7:26am On May 15, 2020 |
Ayekotoo: Ilorin people with Fulani or core northern ancestry despite being phenotypical Yoruba may assert their periphery Fulani/northern identity to get favour politically but when such individuals find himself among Yoruba from the Southwest, also assert their Yoruba identity to get a favour. There is a huge Ilorin community in Lagos and other southwestern states. They all behave and act like Yoruba. In fact, my mother is Ilorin Yoruba and I see myself as a pure Yoruba. If you also go back to history you will see that even a substantial percentage of Yoruba in the south have huge ancestry pool from neighbouring ethnic group like Egbira, Nupe(Tapa), Edo and even Hausa/Fulani but this doesn't make them less Yoruba. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by orisa37: 8:00am On May 15, 2020 |
myobjective: HE IS WRONG. ABUJA MEANS SHORT CUTS. I KNOW SO. |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by kehinde1588(m): 8:57am On May 15, 2020 |
orisa37: Oga stop saying rubbish. You have been saying rubbish since. I don't know where you got your own information that Abuja is coined from Yoruba words. |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by orisa37: 9:55am On May 15, 2020 |
kehinde1588: So it hurts to speak one's Language? |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by kehinde1588(m): 10:02am On May 15, 2020 |
orisa37: No no. Give me a reliable source where you read your own history that Abuja was coined from Yoruba words. At least it must be written down somewhere how the name Abuja was derived. |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by omonnakoda: 10:22am On May 15, 2020 |
Northern Nigeria was carved out by the British over 100 years ago and administered as such Modern Kwara always was part of the Northern Region before 1914 amalgamation and until independence and then in 1967 when states were created it remained part of the "north" Gowon created 6 states out of Northern Nigeria one of which was West Central State with Ilorin as capital,that was renamed Kwara . As more states were created Kwara has progressively reduced in size. The Northern region had joint assets just like the other regions e.g In the Western region it was Odua Investment. Those assets and other ties mean that Kwara is better placed as a Northern province. Ilorin particularly is a Muslim enclave and for that reason cannot sit comfortably in any other place. 1 Like |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by Igboid: 10:45am On May 15, 2020 |
Because Nigeria is a failed geographical entity. Benue should have been in the South South with Cross River, Kogi East should have been in SE with Anambra and Enugu, Kwara and Kogi west should have been in SW. 1 Like |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by Karlifate: 10:46am On May 15, 2020 |
kehinde1588:The Sarakis migrated a long time ago from Ogun to Kwara. Research very well. Saraki's lineage does not belong to Kwara. |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by Igboid: 10:47am On May 15, 2020 |
omonnakoda: Many Osun towns are Muslim enclaves yet sit comfortably in SW. Your excuse is not strong. What joint investments does Kwara have with the North that they can't get compensated for? 1 Like |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by Igboid: 10:49am On May 15, 2020 |
Karlifate: Sarakis migrated from Mali. They are Fulanis with long term traditions of marrying Yoruba women, hence their apparent Yorubanized nature, its a camouflage. 1 Like |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by Anambra1stSon(m): 10:52am On May 15, 2020 |
Arrewa:Yoruba man keep deceiving yourself on nairaland 4 Likes |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by omonnakoda: 10:56am On May 15, 2020 |
Igboid:Name the emir of a town in Osun state . That is what I meant by "enclave" Kwara and Ilorin are not the same thing. The people of Ilorin are quite comfortable in the North and will stay there. They belong there. I am not aware that I was giving an " excuse" for anything. I merely stated historical facts Who is compensating whom and WHY? |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by Karlifate: 10:57am On May 15, 2020 |
Ayekotoo:You're right. Alhaji Lai Mohammed is from Kwara, just look at his lifestyle. Kwara is a conquered Yorubaland & the Geo-political zone did justice to that. |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by Igboid: 11:08am On May 15, 2020 |
omonnakoda: I heard they have Balogun of Ilorin too for the Yoruba of Ilorin. If Nigeria is a true democratic state,and not a failed entity, the Yoruba majority in Ilorin can sign a petition for the Kwara state government to carry out a referendum to determine which geopolitical zone the people of Yoruba speaking part of Kwara want to belong. If this happens, the vote of the Yorubas would nullify those of Gambaris and Kwara would be ceded to SW, irrespective of what the Emir of Ilorin and his Gambari follower think. Once in SW, the Yoruba majority in Kwara would slowly strip the Emir of his powers and magnify those of the Balogun. Case closed. But we all know Nigeria is not a democratic country, but rather a failed British colonial experiment, so few could determine the fate of many. 1 Like |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by latexxbro(m): 11:15am On May 15, 2020 |
mystery22:I'm a yoruba man, Kwara state precisely, and it pains me to see that North has already taken over Kwara state and our people are blind to see it yet 1 Like |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by BabaRamota1980: 11:28am On May 15, 2020 |
agulion: Successive govts controlled by Northerners needed budget and political advantage from land size. Adding Kwara and Benue to North nailed their goal. You will notice the leaders in North continue to use NORTH to identify political unity. They never say NW, NE, NC, but NORTH! Their opposition to restructuring is rooted to this issue. They will no longer have political advantage if MiddleBelt is recognized as a political identity. 3 Likes |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by omonnakoda: 12:29pm On May 15, 2020 |
Igboid:what makes you think the Yoruba in the SW are desirous of that scenario. Whether or not they strip Emir or not is irrelevant. At any rate traditional rulers are not democratic institutions Ilorin should remain in Northern Nigeria. If indeed they identify themselves as Yoruba what is wrong in having a Yoruba foothold in Northern Nigeria . Rather than return to the West they should expand further in the North |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by Ayekotoo(m): 12:45pm On May 15, 2020 |
myobjective: The bolded above is not true. There are many Yorubas in Southwest that practice Islam and don't act like the people of Ilorin especially. e.g the mode of dressing, Islamic first and surname et all. |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by livitexguy(m): 12:49pm On May 15, 2020 |
They are northern state because they where conquered by Usman Danfodio's Jihad . |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by omonnakoda: 1:08pm On May 15, 2020 |
livitexguy:Usman Dan Fodio jihad had nothing to do with Ilorin AT ALL. Ilorin has been an Islamic space long before the jihads and home to a lot of freed slaves of Northern origin who were used as mercenaries by Oyo. So even though it was a Yoruba speaking space many of them have slave origins from diverse places and cannot be expected to be automatically loyal to Oyo In those places where the jihadis took place it was not an occupation. All those who carried out the uprising against the local kings were LOCALS whose fathers and grandparents were locals. There was no army marching from place to place occupying territory. At any rate Kwara state is not the same as Ilorin |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by EsomahJD: 1:10pm On May 15, 2020 |
orisa37: Una no dey shame? |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by omonnakoda: 1:11pm On May 15, 2020 |
BabaRamota1980:I believe "Northern Nigeria" was delineated by the British before 1914 |
Re: How Did Kwara State Become Northern State by Dedetwo(m): 1:16pm On May 15, 2020 |
omonnakoda: This is an absolute twaddle. Ilorin still remains Emirate. |
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