Nwanyiogwashi:
At the bolds got me laughing but Anioma people are not Igbo according to our Yoruba people well keep shouting online that Anioma is not Igbo let's keep developing Asaba and other Igbo towns in Delta state. With oil money the only people that understand the games well are urhobo people,please you guys should also continue to shout that port Harcourt is not Igbo land let it keep developing till when is time

BabaRamota1980:


When Igbo say CHI and Ikwerre say CHI, are the two identifiers of exact same thing? When Igbo say CHUKWU and Ikwere say CHUKWU, are you both saying same thing? If not then you are different and separate cultures and people.

It will do Ikwerre good to find new identities in culture and language that is distinct and does not share reference with meanings and terms in Igbo.

chrisxxx:

You see that is the problems Igbos have. There a lot of things involve in speaking similar language. You speak the same language with your brother does it make you your brother? Bros please reason. Spanish is similar to Portuguese are they the same? No.
We could have a union of Igbos and others who speak different language. It will help everyone. But by the time you want to erase my identity I will back out.

Smoke55:
where Is The Ignorance?

chrisxxx:

You started well by narrating the relationship between The UK of GB and Northern Ireland. These people have similar culture that outside UK it is hard to tell Welsh from English. That is what is expected of Igbos to do. We are the same people with common origin. However saying Ikwerre is Igbo which you know is not correct is the problem. Igbo and other related tribes can form a union. That is the best way to have a formidable front.

chrisxxx:

You started well by narrating the relationship between The UK of GB and Northern Ireland. These people have similar culture that outside UK it is hard to tell Welsh from English. That is what is expected of Igbos to do. We are the same people with common origin. However saying Ikwerre is Igbo which you know is not correct is the problem. Igbo and other related tribes can form a union. That is the best way to have a formidable front.

legitimatefrank1:
How can people who took part in the Biafra war not be Igbos, the likes of Achuzie are from where

Come to think of it are you wiser than Ohaneze that intervened, are you more Igbo than him

Bros I feel your pain. I am Ikwerre and I vehemently oppose the notion that I am Igbo. My grandmother was an Igbo lady from Umuahia. When she was alive I tried to ask her if Ikwerre was Igbo with her experience and knowledge going by her age. She categorically told me Ikwerre was not Igbo. She said there was no time Ikwerre had accepted to be Igbo. Not before the war or after the war.

There are many ways Igbos can win the heart of these people that speak similar language and form a formidable front. It is far from annexation. That wont work. Before the war and when there was no idea of it even when the apparatchik of governance were fully under Igbo control in the Eastern Nigeria, Ikwerre in 1963 formed the Ogbakor Ikwerre Convention.

First of all, Ikwerre is not Igbo. We have made this clear even before the civil war and that was why some Igbo accused Ikwerre of sabotage during the war. Second, in all efforts by the minorities in the former Eastern region to agitate for their own political, social and economic recognition and liberty in the Eastern region and Nigeria at large, Ikwerre participated fully: hence, the late Chief E. J. A. Oriji and others represented Ikwerre before and during most of the conferences set up to address the fears of the minority ethnic groups in Nigeria.

Third, in May 1963, Ikwerre people formed the Ogbakor Ikwerre Convention to state that Ikwerre is a distinct ethnic group from any others in Nigeria. Fourth, in the 1964/65 elections into the Federal House of Representatives, National Council of Nigeria and the Camerouns (NCNC) nominated an Igbo man named Mr. Eluguronu to represent Ikwerre in the House. Ikwerre rejected it and fielded young Nwobidike Nwanodi as an independent candidate and he won. Fifth, Ikwerre's participation in all the movements for the creation of COR and later Rivers States clearly shows Ikwerre's rejection of been Igbo.

chrisxxx:

You see that is the problems Igbos have. There a lot of things involve in speaking similar language. You speak the same language with your brother does it make you your brother? Bros please reason. Spanish is similar to Portuguese are they the same? No.
We could have a union of Igbos and others who speak different language. It will help everyone. But by the time you want to erase my identity I will back out.

AngryIgboMan:
So suddenly, Anioma people are now Igbos again?

So suddenly, Igbos have grown beyond Onitsha again and into the so called South South?

You see why I tell my Igbo brethren that Ikwerre people are useless to us?

Because most times, they commit crimes in there region and are termed Igbos too.

This was how Nzeogwu started a coup and it was termed an Igbo coup.

A delta man that spent most parts of his life in the North and even answers Kaduna as a name suddenly became a pure Igbo man. Because of his actions, 3 million Igbo souls were wasted.

I will ask again; NDIGBO, IS IT NOT HIGH TIME WE STOP PLAYING BIG BROTHER TO THESE SOUTHERN DEVILISH MINORITIES SO THAT THE ENEMY WITHIN CAN FINISH THEM UP?

BabaRamota1980:


I am not talking about similarity. My point is Ikwerre and Igbo sharing SAME meaning, not similarity.

Angelfrost:


Ask your Igbo wanderers, sojourners and settlers who can't and won't stay in their regions...

Such reports bespeak lack of dignity and self respect among the Igbo nation...

A set of individuals from the North will do nonsense and anyhow in the South, including East, and your people are not allowed to retaliate, all because you have investments in the North... Tueh!!!

chrisxxx:

What does Va mean in Ibo?
What does nha mean in Ibo>
what does piam mean in Ibo?
Bros they have a lot in common but not same.
Lastly do you consider Igbo as Ikwerre?

ZIAZI:


By your moniker, I know of a fact that you're just a liability. Y not leave the Southern minorities alone! Who in the first place told you Igbos have been playing the role of big brother? These Niger Delta minority tribes you abuse is the reason y your Nnamdi Kanu wants Biafra if u dunno. Besides, the mainstay of Nigeria's wealth is hinged on these minorities. Ogbeni what's ur stress? You are playing big brother when your region is so so so so so underdeveloped. Rubbish!

Young042galaxy:

What does kpiyo mean in Igbo?
What does gbogu mean in Igbo?
What does jegbo mean in Igbo? Etc.
And guess what?
This are some of languages spoken in Awgu LGA of Enugu state which other Igbo people doesn't understand and its called olu ndị in Igbo Language which every clan have it too.

chrisxxx:

Bros I feel your pain. I am Ikwerre and I vehemently oppose the notion that I am Igbo. My grandmother was an Igbo lady from Umuahia. When she was alive I tried to ask her if Ikwerre was Igbo with her experience and knowledge going by her age. She categorically told me Ikwerre was not Igbo. She said there was no time Ikwerre had accepted to be Igbo. Not before the war or after the war.
There are many ways Igbos can win the heart of these people that speak similar language and form a formidable front. It is far from annexation. That wont work. Before the war and when there was no idea of it even when the apparatchik of governance were fully under Igbo control in the Eastern Nigeria, Ikwerre in 1963 formed the Ogbakor Ikwerre Convention.
First of all, Ikwerre is not Igbo. We have made this clear even before the civil war and that was why some Igbo accused Ikwerre of sabotage during the war. Second, in all efforts by the minorities in the former Eastern region to agitate for their own political, social and economic recognition and liberty in the Eastern region and Nigeria at large, Ikwerre participated fully: hence, the late Chief E. J. A. Oriji and others represented Ikwerre before and during most of the conferences set up to address the fears of the minority ethnic groups in Nigeria. Third, in May 1963, Ikwerre people formed the Ogbakor Ikwerre Convention to state that Ikwerre is a distinct ethnic group from any others in Nigeria. Fourth, in the 1964/65 elections into the Federal House of Representatives, National Council of Nigeria and the Camerouns (NCNC) nominated an Igbo man named Mr. Eluguronu to represent Ikwerre in the House. Ikwerre rejected it and fielded young Nwobidike Nwanodi as an independent candidate and he won. Fifth, Ikwerre's participation in all the movements for the creation of COR and later Rivers States clearly shows Ikwerre's rejection of been Igbo.

simplycarro:


That is not true, it’s like saying all igbo traders are criminals if you come across one that acted fraudulently in the market

chrisxxx:

Do the people of Awgu deny they are Igbo? This is the fundamental question. It is not possible for more than one million persons to agree on what is not truth. Overwhelmingly the Ikwerres {Iwhurnohna) people generally say they are not Igbo. Every community of Ikwerreland says they are not Igbo. It os not not a group saying yes and the other saying no. It is not a matter of denying. It is a matter of who we are. Just take me as a brother. However I am not you.

Miracle1991:
If not because of Buhari, the igbos in the north for don hear am. Continue burning and killing the northerers, when the north start I hope you will not cry to UN,US,UK,FIFA,CAF etc

Igboid:
chrisxxx :





Your grandma is entitled to her opinions and not to her own facts Ikwerres were identified and classified as Igbos from the moment colonials set foot in the east, just like other Igbo clans like Nsukka, Idemili, Nkanu, etc were classified as same.
Igbo was a generic term for us all. So you see things like Owerri-Ibo, Ikwerre-Ibo, Etche-Ibo, Isuama-Ibo, Onicha-Ibo, Enuani-Ibo, Ika-Ibo, Awka-Ibo, Izzi-Ibo, Agbaja -Ibo, Aro-Ibo,Ngwa-Ibo, Ndoki-Ibo, etc in colonial documents. Everyone one had their own clan they pay allegiance to, while Ibo was a generic term for all.
What Ikwerre did after the war was erase the generic name, promote the clan name to a generic one, and then replace the big void created by removing Ibo with a fabricated Bini origin story and undiluted Igbophobia.



Ikwerres were not the only Igbo clan who formed a convention. Infact, within the Igbo union of those days, each Igbo clan had their own independent union, with Igbo union only serving a supervisory role. Mbaise had their own convention, Ngwa had theirs, every clan had theirs and the inter clan associations rivalry was very high and tense. Igbo union tried to keep everyone calm.
I notice that modern Ikwerre revisionists usually hype about this Ikwerre Convention as a proof of their non Igbo agitations, like other Igbo clans didn't have theirs at that same period.



While I agree with you 100% that Ikwerre is not Igbo and that Ohanaeze Ndiigbo owe the rest of Igbo clans the debt of openly announcing expulsion of Ikwerres from Igbo Union and the expulsion of all Ikwerre persons currently holding post in the union.
I have to set the history right.
There is a thread about The COR agitation and willink commission . No Ikwerre person came to the commission and denied they are not Igbos.
Also note that the Afiko, Izzi, Ezza and Ikwo were also involved in the commission deliberations, this wasn't because they were denying their Igbo identity, but because just like Ikwerre, Ogba, Ekpeye and Etche, they were sharing a province with minorities in Ogoja province.
So we know for sure that while Ikwerres like other Igbo clans had their own conventions that promoted their clannish agitations and aspirations, they were not pushing for severance from Igbo union entirely, neither were they in Igbo denial, as of 1957 when the commission was set up.




Any neutral evidence dated 1963 to support the claim that Ogbakor Ikwerre declared for independence from the Igbo in 1963. Please don't quote materials dated after 1963.
Elugruonu vs Nwanodi issue had been addressed severally here, see here, you lots must stop twisting things out of context. :

Ikwerre were only in Willink commission process just as Izzi, Ezza Ikwo and Afikpo people were. They shared provinces with minorities and at no point told the willink commission that they favour independence from Igbo ethnicity to float their own individual tags.

chrisxxx:

Bros I feel your pain. I am Ikwerre and I vehemently oppose the notion that I am Igbo. My grandmother was an Igbo lady from Umuahia. When she was alive I tried to ask her if Ikwerre was Igbo with her experience and knowledge going by her age. She categorically told me Ikwerre was not Igbo. She said there was no time Ikwerre had accepted to be Igbo. Not before the war or after the war.
There are many ways Igbos can win the heart of these people that speak similar language and form a formidable front. It is far from annexation. That wont work. Before the war and when there was no idea of it even when the apparatchik of governance were fully under Igbo control in the Eastern Nigeria, Ikwerre in 1963 formed the Ogbakor Ikwerre Convention.
First of all, Ikwerre is not Igbo. We have made this clear even before the civil war and that was why some Igbo accused Ikwerre of sabotage during the war. Second, in all efforts by the minorities in the former Eastern region to agitate for their own political, social and economic recognition and liberty in the Eastern region and Nigeria at large, Ikwerre participated fully: hence, the late Chief E. J. A. Oriji and others represented Ikwerre before and during most of the conferences set up to address the fears of the minority ethnic groups in Nigeria. Third, in May 1963, Ikwerre people formed the Ogbakor Ikwerre Convention to state that Ikwerre is a distinct ethnic group from any others in Nigeria. Fourth, in the 1964/65 elections into the Federal House of Representatives, National Council of Nigeria and the Camerouns (NCNC) nominated an Igbo man named Mr. Eluguronu to represent Ikwerre in the House. Ikwerre rejected it and fielded young Nwobidike Nwanodi as an independent candidate and he won. Fifth, Ikwerre's participation in all the movements for the creation of COR and later Rivers States clearly shows Ikwerre's rejection of been Igbo.

AngryIgboMan:
So suddenly, Anioma people are now Igbos again?

So suddenly, Igbos have grown beyond Onitsha again and into the so called South South?

You see why I tell my Igbo brethren that Ikwerre people are useless to us?

Because most times, they commit crimes in there region and are termed Igbos too.

This was how Nzeogwu started a coup and it was termed an Igbo coup.

A delta man that spent most parts of his life in the North and even answers Kaduna as a name suddenly became a pure Igbo man. Because of his actions, 3 million Igbo souls were wasted.

I will ask again; NDIGBO, IS IT NOT HIGH TIME WE STOP PLAYING BIG BROTHER TO THESE SOUTHERN DEVILISH MINORITIES SO THAT THE ENEMY WITHIN CAN FINISH THEM UP?

Dedetwo:
[/b]


Since you copied the bolded from depth of lies, you have made a sermon out of it. There was nothing like federal election in 1965. There was federal election of 1964 which was boycotted by NCNC, AG, UMBC and NEPU. However during regional election in 1965, few boycotted areas saw election and majority of NCNC candidates were returned unopposed. The Elugaraonu saga was not Ikwerre issue. The contest was for Mile 2 Diobu district which was under Ahoada Cnetral District or constituency. The fight was between Orlu/Okigwe axis and Mbaise/Bende. Ikwerre was never a factor in the outcome that saw young Barrister Nwobidike Nwanodi who had no penny of his own or grassroots support to win in Ahoada Division. Mbaise/Bende axis wing of NCNC had adopted Nwobidike Nwanodi for Mile 2 Diobu in Ahoada Central District to regional house. Even though Mr. Elugwaraonu was from Mbaise, his town union has informed him that their support was marked for Nwobidike Nwanodi because Elugwaraonu stepped down as a candidate for Mayor of Port Harcourt. Elugaraonu insisted to run as independent and lost the election. Even as the election was concluded from the polls, it took tribunal headed by Chief R.B.K. Okafor which was setup by NCNC to resolve the political saga. Mr. Elugwaraonu was not the only prominent politicians who ran as independent and lost. Chief Emenike, the former and first Mayor of Port Harcourt, also lost as independent candidate.

goaldynboy:


You are hopelessly useless to make such daft comment!

So blind to see that your idiotic and murderous Fulani brothers first killed two of the community members in delta state?!!

Mind you, nobody has monopoly of violence!!!!!!!

Igboid:


Thanks for setting record right.

Imagine the type of lies these Igboids are spinning against Ndiigbo when Nwanodi himself was sponsored by an Igbo clannish group.

This was same with Eyo Ita, who had many Igbo supporters who together with him refused to step down when Zik wanted a reset button pressed. Those Igbo members were[b] ejected from NCNC together with Eyo Ita, who they rallied around to form a new party and tried to wrestle power from NCNC and failed.
It was never a tribal thing. It was about ideological interests with Igbos fully represented on Eyo Ita and Zik sides, likewise minorities. [/b]

But modern day history revisionists have twisted everything to run along with their Igbophobic agenda.

Imagine S. O Omasi from Ogba was representing Onitsha province as the Commissioner when he wasn't from the province, simply because he lived and worked in the province all his adult life, hence NCNC found him worthy to represent the zone.
Ogba-Bini modern day Igbophobic revisionist would not note this when they start running their agenda of Igbos marginalizing them in Eastern region.

goaldynboy:


I must confess I really enjoyed your very educative writeup!!!!

You must be a historian!!!!!

Dedetwo:
[/b]


Since you copied the bolded from depth of lies, you have made a sermon out of it. There was nothing like federal election in 1965. There was federal election of 1964 which was boycotted by NCNC, AG, UMBC and NEPU. However during regional election in 1965, few boycotted areas saw election and majority of NCNC candidates were returned unopposed. The Elugaraonu saga was not Ikwerre issue. The contest was for Mile 2 Diobu district which was under Ahoada Cnetral District or constituency. The fight was between Orlu/Okigwe axis and Mbaise/Bende. Ikwerre was never a factor in the outcome that saw young Barrister Nwobidike Nwanodi who had no penny of his own or grassroots support to win in Ahoada Division. Mbaise/Bende axis wing of NCNC had adopted Nwobidike Nwanodi for Mile 2 Diobu in Ahoada Central District to regional house. Even though Mr. Elugwaraonu was from Mbaise, his town union has informed him that their support was marked for Nwobidike Nwanodi because Elugwaraonu stepped down as a candidate for Mayor of Port Harcourt. Elugaraonu insisted to run as independent and lost the election. Even as the election was concluded from the polls, it took tribunal headed by Chief R.B.K. Okafor which was setup by NCNC to resolve the political saga. Mr. Elugwaraonu was not the only prominent politicians who ran as independent and lost. Chief Emenike, the former and first Mayor of Port Harcourt, also lost as independent candidate.

Igboid:


Thanks for setting record right.

Imagine the type of lies these Igboids are spinning against Ndiigbo when Nwanodi himself was sponsored by an Igbo clannish group.

This was same with Eyo Ita, who had many Igbo supporters who together with him refused to step down when Zik wanted a reset button pressed. Those Igbo members were ejected from NCNC together with Eyo Ita, who they rallied around to form a new party and tried to wrestle power from NCNC and failed.
It was never a tribal thing. It was about ideological interests with Igbos fully represented on Eyo Ita and Zik sides, likewise minorities.

But modern day history revisionists have twisted everything to run along with their Igbophobic agenda.

Imagine S. O Omasi from Ogba was representing Onitsha province as the Commissioner when he wasn't from the province, simply because he lived and worked in the province all his adult life, hence NCNC found him worthy to represent the zone.
Ogba-Bini modern day Igbophobic revisionist would not note this when they start running their agenda of Igbos marginalizing them in Eastern region.

MetaPhysical:


https://dailypost.ng/2020/05/14/okpanam-killings-ohanaeze-moves-against-reprisal-attacks-on-igbos-in-north/

awgumayor:
You can't blame Ohaneze, they are trying to avoid another reprisal attacks as happened in 1966. An Okpanam man from Anioma but entire Igbo bear the brunt. Even if Emeka from Agbo, or Emeka from Ikwerre, or Emeka from Etche killed a fulani, Hausa/fulani will not ask Emeka living in the north are you from Agbo or ikwerre, etc before they kill him. What they know is that Igbo killed a fulani. You don't expect Ohaneze to come and tell the Arewa Youths, look, the Opkanam people are not Igbos please don't attack igbos in the north. Ohaneze will still stand for the resentful ikwerre despite their resentments. Igbos are big enough to forgive and protect their prodigal sons.

BabaRamota1980:


When Igbo say CHI and Ikwerre say CHI, are the two identifiers of exact same thing? When Igbo say CHUKWU and Ikwere say CHUKWU, are you both saying same thing? If not then you are different and separate cultures and people.

It will do Ikwerre good to find new identities in culture and language that is distinct and does not share reference with meanings and terms in Igbo.