In our Sunday school classes, we are made to believe that God always has interest in the adminstration of man. In our holy book, God started leading His people through the appointment of Priests (such as Melchizedek, Aaron, Phinehas, Ezra etc) and then moved to using the Judges (Joshua, Othniel, Ehud, Deborah, Gideon, Samson etc). After the judges, God brought kings on board - Saul, David, Solomon etc. Most kings that ruled were believed to be chosen by God, despite that some couldn't walk with the Lord all through their reigns. To cut long story short, nowadays, we can hardly point to national leaders who are/were indeed God-chosen for the nations (You can mention the ones you know). Perhaps there are still many but our spiritual insensitivity is too shallow to know the heart of God.

SIR0:
In our Sunday school classes, we are made to believe that God always has interest in the adminstration of man. In our holy book, God started leading His people through the appointment of Priests (such as Melchizedek, Aaron, Phinehas, Ezra etc) and then moved to using the Judges (Joshua, Othniel, Ehud, Deborah, Gideon, Samson etc). After the judges, God brought kings on board - Saul, David, Solomon etc. Most kings that ruled were believed to be chosen by God, despite that some couldn't walk with the Lord all through their reigns. To cut long story short, nowadays, we can hardly point to national leaders who are/were indeed God-chosen for the nations (You can mention the ones you know). Perhaps there are still many but our spiritual insensitivity is too shallow to know the heart of God.

forget that fallacy!

God doesn’t chose any leader. Na we dey chose our leaders ourselves
Some leaders got there by imposition

Amotolongbo:
forget that fallacy!

God doesn’t chose any leader. Na we dey chose our leaders ourselves

fallacy

Amotolongbo:
forget that fallacy!

God doesn’t chose any leader. Na we dey chose our leaders ourselves

God bless your Mother!

Its like saying its God that choose Hitler, Kim Jun Hun, Buhari and Trump.

SIR0:
fallacy

Ya!

So other countries like China that do not believe in the existence of God, God also chose their leaders?

Come to think of this, so God gets himself involved in the election rigging activities of some political leaders to become our ruler?

Please stop this blasphemy in the name of your best food.

SIR0:
In our Sunday school classes, we are made to believe that God always has interest in the adminstration of man. In our holy book, God started leading His people through the appointment of Priests (such as Melchizedek, Aaron, Phinehas, Ezra etc) and then moved to using the Judges (Joshua, Othniel, Ehud, Deborah, Gideon, Samson etc). After the judges, God brought kings on board - Saul, David, Solomon etc.

God's business with ruling over the people of Israel started downhill after Israel rejected Him as their King and decided they wanted man for their King. Men wanted their own king to rule over them instead of God.

SIR0:
To cut long story short, nowadays, we can hardly point to national leaders who are/were indeed God-chosen for the nations (You can mention the ones you know). Perhaps there are still many but our spiritual insensitivity is too shallow to know the heart of God.

The Kingdom of men is administered and ruled over by the will of mere men. for the sake of man and the things of man.

Kobojunkie:

God's business with ruling over the people of Israel started downhill after Israel rejected Him as their King and decided they wanted man for their King. Men wanted their own king to rule over them instead of God

As we politically decide who rules us now

Kobojunkie:

God's business with ruling over the people of Israel started downhill after Israel rejected Him as their King and decided they wanted man for their King. Men wanted their own king to rule over them instead of God.

The Kingdom of men is administered and ruled over by the will of mere men. for the sake of man and the things of man.

awon Jehovah Witness sighted

Amotolongbo:
awon Jehovah Witness sighted

Jehovah witness? Are you high??

Kobojunkie:

Jehovah witness? Are you high??

the belief is typical of the JW people

Amotolongbo:
the belief is typical of the JW people

What belief?

God has interest in choosing leaders doesn't mean he's will choose them. It's our free will. Unless we submit our free will to him as a nation, he'll just sit by and watch us.

Quite a lot of pastors are not chosen by God let alone politicians

Oh boy, you guys don't know what Death means for if you knew, you would surely know that God is not interested in the affairs of Dead Men both the leaders and the led, for- "He is not a God of the dead but of the living" Mark 22:27.

He wants the sons of men to Live and Life which you all don't now have!

Life and death is all that matters now most especially at these times.

Choose Life that ye may Live! Deuteronomy 30:15-20.

"And this is the Condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than the light, because their deeds were evil. For everyone that Doeth evil hateth the light,... John 3:19/20.

I think there's a need to balance this talk. I begin to wonder these days where we are really going on this earth. What we are seeing, hearing and experiencing are totally different from what were in the ages past. Coming to this leadership appointment, the OP was talking from the standpoint of God's dealing with the Israelites and at that time, the Hebrews had total submission to the God of heavens; hence, they all in agreement to allow him choose for them. Note: they have their own will to choose anyone but decided to make superior the will of God over theirs.


To what we have today, God's not the one ruling the earth anymore. Devil has taken charge of the whole thing. And now, God's watching men in their predicaments. Men are the ones ruling themselves with advice or help from the forces.

Will of man is powerful. In God's agenda, his will might be that A should be leader, if B has strong influence than A in terms of power, or if men refuse A because of bias and greediness (bribe during election), I tell it will shock you the answer will be B. So, in this world today, men are the ones ruling themselves with (knowingly or unknowingly support from satanic kingdom). And that's why you find oppression, imbalances, everywhere.

Again, God can choose A and if men agree, Mr A assumes the power, that doesn't mean his leadership will set people free. If he continues to submit to listening to God and not men, the leadership will please the mass. Otherwise, you'll be shock if it was not God who chose him. If care is not taken, you might end up cursing God. But God is just, man is the liar.

If ma God dey choose/appoint Africa leaders, then that God dey wicked no be small

God chose David to rule over Israel.

joinpreneur:

To what we have today, God's not the one ruling the earth anymore. Devil has taken charge of the whole thing. And now, God's watching men in their predicaments. Men are the ones ruling themselves with advice or help from the forces.

If you are going to balance talk, at least make sure that at the core of whatever opinion you have is the truth.The only devil that has taken over is man.

joinpreneur:

Will of man is powerful. In God's agenda, his will might be that A should be leader, if B has strong influence than A in terms of power, or if men refuse A because of bias and greediness (bribe during election), I tell it will shock you the answer will be B. So, in this world today, men are the ones ruling themselves with (knowingly or unknowingly support from satanic kingdom). And that's why you find oppression, imbalances, everywhere.

Again, God can choose A and if men agree, Mr A assumes the power, that doesn't mean his leadership will set people free. If he continues to submit to listening to God and not men, the leadership will please the mass. Otherwise, you'll be shock if it was not God who chose him. If care is not taken, you might end up cursing God. But God is just, man is the liar.

WOW... Yet God's will is an IF-THEN conditional, but man's will is straightforward? LOL

Kobojunkie:
WOW... Yet God's will is an IF-THEN conditional, but man's will is straightforward? LOL

Whichever ever way you understand it, ensure it sinks that if God says Yes to your life, and you the owner say No; your answer will be NO. If God promised you long life and you go out of stupidity set yourself before a railway line, an oncoming train will kill You. Although, there's someone praying somewhere for you but because you've chosen to die, God will not force you to live either. His will, promise for you already is to live and if you say No, then he'll be looking at you perish.

joinpreneur:

Whichever ever way you understand it, ensure it sinks that if God says Yes to your life, and you the owner say No; your answer will be NO. If God promised you long life and you go out of stupidity set yourself before a railway line, an oncoming train will kill You. Although, there's someone praying somewhere for you but because you've chosen to die, God will not force you to live either. His will, promise for you already is to live and if you say No, then he'll be looking at you perish.

Can we please stop assuming we have God figured out as far as the way he thinks or does thing? Let's get back to the topic instead