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Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by darfay: 10:16pm On May 31, 2020 |
RedboneSmith: All I was asking for was further proof If those art work is as old a thousand years old with no proof of equal sophistication within such axis at which they were found at a much later date, then it was definitely of a now extinct civilization that might have been proto igboid or a now extinct or assimilated neighbouring group |
Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by pazienza(m): 10:20pm On May 31, 2020 |
darfay: You are amazed by the sophistication right? Igbos have always been light bearers. So proud of being Igbo. We were so good that we were exporting metallurgy civilization to as far as Okitipupa in Ondo and Bamenda in Cameroon. Why do you think Arochukwu could withstand British for a full year in a full scale war, while Bini fell in days? We had local crafts men who were adept in gun making and in large numbers too. If not because the British had the Maxim and had earlier cunningly embarked on gun seizing and breaking campaign in the region before the war broke out. The odds would have been more even and we could be taking of a second Ethiopia in Igboland. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by pazienza(m): 10:23pm On May 31, 2020 |
darfay: What equal sophistication are you taking about? Looks like you are drunk on Lagos-Ibadan express way media falsehoods. Igbo society was very sophisticated and up to-date. Relative to other African groups. That we don't have one lazy fat tyrant sitting on a chair called King, who dictates for everyone else, doesn't mean we are not sophisticated. Democracy is more sophisticated than Monarchy, incase you don't know. 9 Likes |
Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by darfay: 10:47pm On May 31, 2020 |
pazienza: The artifacts did not match the reality of the people inhabiting that area as it the time it was discovered Are you saying the Igbo society regressed? |
Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by pazienza(m): 11:22pm On May 31, 2020 |
darfay: Of course. Civilizations rise and fall. Igboland civilization was at a decline at that point in time. But the civilization still belong to us. Perhaps environmental change forced the people to move around alot and more emphasis shifted from Art to survival. With no writing, those with the knowledge probably died without passing the knowledge fully to the next generation, etc.. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by JubrilBuhari: 12:33am On Jun 01, 2020 |
RedboneSmith:What do you mean by Awka-Orlu zone? What's the relationship between Awka and Orlu? |
Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by RedboneSmith(m): 12:39am On Jun 01, 2020 |
JubrilBuhari: Awka-Orlu uplands is a geographical term for the highland region that extends from the Awka area down to the Orlu area. South of this is the Owerri lowlands. 1 Like |
Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by JubrilBuhari: 12:46am On Jun 01, 2020 |
RedboneSmith:I doubt there is anything like this or even cultural relationship. Seems like something you just formed off hand to bring two unrelated terms. Awka is very far to Orlu and they don't even share boundaries. Ihiala-Orlu could have make sense not Awake-Orlu. I also don't even think there was any point in time they even shared administrative blok. |
Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by darfay: 12:47am On Jun 01, 2020 |
pazienza: Makes more sense but it's just one of many possibilities |
Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by pazienza(m): 12:56am On Jun 01, 2020 |
darfay: More like its not the narrative that satiates your Igbophobic mindsets and wishes. You are probably looking for a hypothesis that could pin those art works to non Igbo groups. Sorry! Bad market. 5 Likes |
Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by RedboneSmith(m): 1:16am On Jun 01, 2020 |
JubrilBuhari: I really do not have the strength to play this game that people who do nor read want to play anytime I make a post about something they don't know about but should know. Go and read. I already said the term is purely geographical describing a highland that stretches from the Awka area down to the Orlu area. And you're talking about administrative units. Who is talking about administrative units? I made up the term right? Look at this page from a well-regarded book on Igbo history and count how many times the author used the term 'Awka-Orlu uplands. This is just one page. The author used it over and over throughout the book. And other scholars make use of the term too. Tomorrow I will write Nsukka-Okigwe cuesta and someone will come and tell me Nsukka and Okigwe were never in the same administrative unit and that I am making things up. Read, mba. Understand geographical land formation, mba. 3 Likes
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Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by JubrilBuhari: 1:22am On Jun 01, 2020 |
RedboneSmith:You sounds pathetic Mr man, your concept to this is to bring Awka to Orlu in your Imo vs Anambra rubbish and you failed woefully. For goodness sake there is nothing like Awka-Orlu zone, the geographical space between Awka to Orlu is even more far than Orlu-Onitsha. Go and sit down, keep bringing your kindergarten non existing theory to cyberspace. See his head like Awka-Orlu zone. |
Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by RedboneSmith(m): 1:24am On Jun 01, 2020 |
JubrilBuhari: Go and tell that to geographers, you illiterate unteachable bozo. 2 Likes |
Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by RedboneSmith(m): 1:28am On Jun 01, 2020 |
How in the JubrilBuhari rètárded Nairlander fụ́ck is the term 'Awka-Orlu' even going to fuel the Anambra vs Imo feud, you depressing mesh of dead brain cells?! 3 Likes |
Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by RedboneSmith(m): 1:32am On Jun 01, 2020 |
From Britannica.com. But the illiterate JubrilBuharis of this world will never know this because they're illiterate and don't read anything. You picked the right moniker, buddy. 1 Like
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Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by JubrilBuhari: 1:34am On Jun 01, 2020 |
RedboneSmith:You sounds like a half educated frustrated idiot. This thread was about Igbo-Ukwu but you brought your Igbo-ukwu not Nri and then the none existing Awka-Orlu trash. Why not Onitsha-Orlu zone too since they are both upland territories. Nairaland hungry geographer. Most people from Awka don't even know exactly which towns are Orlu in Imo state. Keep spewing trash. Local idiot. |
Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by Nobody: 1:37am On Jun 01, 2020 |
RedboneSmith:Now you get what I'm saying. 1 Like |
Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by Nobody: 1:38am On Jun 01, 2020 |
JubrilBuhari:And who invited you imposter in Igbo cultural thread. Take your nonsense to your Yoruba section. 3 Likes |
Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by JubrilBuhari: 1:38am On Jun 01, 2020 |
RedboneSmith:Half educate hungry nairaland 'geographer' why not bring Onitsha sloping down to Orlu? Hungry idiot. |
Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by RedboneSmith(m): 1:40am On Jun 01, 2020 |
From a well-known geography textbook by Reuben K Udo that most of us read in secondary school. "Awka-Orlu uplands" highlighted in yellow. But one JubrilBuhari wants to come on NL and show his whole ass and let everyone know he no go school. 3 Likes
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Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by Nobody: 1:41am On Jun 01, 2020 |
RedboneSmith:The moniker you're quoting is the same as Julius Malema aka Omonnakoda, Osagyefo, Meleszenawi. The Yoruba dude is fascinated with Igbo culture and is always on Igbo threads. 1 Like |
Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by JubrilBuhari: 1:41am On Jun 01, 2020 |
RedboneSmith:All I am seeing here is a glaring symptom of a frustrated nairaland Awka-Orlu 'geographer'. Someone please give food to this resident geographer before he commits suicide. |
Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by RedboneSmith(m): 1:43am On Jun 01, 2020 |
UdechiHD: I don't think so. Omonnakoda doesn't like Igbos, but he isn't stupid and uneducated. This guy here is borderline rétàrded. 1 Like |
Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by RedboneSmith(m): 1:46am On Jun 01, 2020 |
JubrilBuhari: Lol. You're just trying to save face now with weak jabs, after being exposed for the uncomprehending simpleton that you are. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by Nobody: 1:50am On Jun 01, 2020 |
pazienza:Lol! The dude didn't know that blacksmithing has been an Igbo craft since ages. i.e Awka, Amaigbo, Nsukka etc All these were notable blacksmithing towns since antiquity. Igbo Ukwu art work is similar to the Egyptian arts and proves the early civilization of the Igbo people. 1 Like |
Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by Nobody: 1:54am On Jun 01, 2020 |
RedboneSmith:Ok! I get. |
Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by JubrilBuhari: 2:02am On Jun 01, 2020 |
RedboneSmith:Save face from a frustrated nairaland hungry 'geographer'? You sounds so idiotic. This thread was about Igbo-Ukwu, you lots from your forest in Imo state started with Igbo-ukwu not Nri and then the none existing Awka-Orlu cultural or whatever. You need to see how idiotic you sounds. Lol I can bring a rubbish sketch to points Onitsha-Orlu, what do they share? Nothing! That's my point! I don't expect understating from a half educated hungry frustrated geographer like you idiot! If for one this here you poured your frustration, and venom from your rotten teeth. I actually enjoyed your wailings here, including tagging Yoruba. |
Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by Nobody: 2:09am On Jun 01, 2020 |
JubrilBuhari:An illiterate will always be an illiterate. Study you won't, learn you won't! Gerrahere with that nonsense Imo/Anambra bullshit. In time those nomenclature may even be dissolved in an independent Igbo country. Historians have always noted the following geographical location to describe ancient Igbo dispersal point. Awka-Orlu on one hand, Nsukka-Okigwe on another hand and lastly Awka, Orlu, Nsukka, Okigwe, Owerri heartland. |
Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by Nobody: 2:25am On Jun 01, 2020 |
JubrilBuhari:You're empty and uneducated. I won't waste my time educating a main market trader. Nri is 14th century old deal with it. |
Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by JubrilBuhari: 2:30am On Jun 01, 2020 |
UdechiHD:Lmao Orlu professor, abi na Awka-Orlu professor. I am not the source of your frustration. Face the hunger in your hunger ravaged Orlu. Uchewu telling us that Nri is 14th century, thanks to the University or Awka-Orlu. Dude, get out from your mud house, get work and feed your hungry self. Stop pouring your frustration on cyberspace. |
Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by IDENNAA(m): 2:46am On Jun 01, 2020 |
UdechiHD: Igboukwu bronze is not older than Nri because they bore Nri motif like ichi. Isu is a forgotten group without a definite culture. Nobody knew their original home land but I believe they were one of the group that migrated southward during the drought. Many groups lived on what is known as Anambra and we do not have evidence to prove Igboukwu is Isu. And, no , we don't know Isu and they can't claim the artifacts.....go back to Imo and mind your business. You cultureless nonentity |
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