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Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by SocialJustice: 10:39am On May 24, 2020
Lostz:


Sources said some of the governors, especially those in the opposition, felt Buhari is using Executive Order to subvert the constitution with a view to caging them.
Their views on the new Executive Order are:
*It constitutes a breach of the understanding with the Presidency;
*It is illegal because only amendment to the 1999 Constitution can guarantee such autonomy;
*Executive Order does not have legislation force; and
*It is an encroachment of the laws on the disbursement of the funds in the Federation Account
A PDP governor told The Nation last night that they were ” shocked by the decision of the President to issue this Executive Order, which is more of a decree of the military era than a constitutional process.’
“The order cannot stand, we will go to court to challenge it,” he said
“Our party is not opposed to autonomy for the legislature and the judiciary but it must be a constitution review Process.
“But we have a growing pattern of sliding into dictatorship with Executive Orders. We won’t allow the subversion of the 1999 Constitution.
If you're being paid by a governor to support foolishness then carry on. Man must chop.

You read a text and took sides with people that are just blabbing, neglecting the one that has constitutional backing.

Nigerians una good too hard to do.

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Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by Onlyonebuhari: 10:41am On May 24, 2020
Governors don't want FG to control them yet they want to control state Assemblies and judiciary. Greedy fellows.

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Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by Oduclemz: 10:44am On May 24, 2020
They want to go to court to contest issue that has to do with judiciary. Bunch of jokers. Can the court overrule itself when it is the judiciary that will benefit from that executive order? This is akin to ‘’na me slap you, na me you give explanation to’’

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Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by dadebayo1(m): 10:49am On May 24, 2020
ddippset:
Yes Gambari acted right.

When it's a good decision made it is another person.

When it's a bad or unpopular decision it is Buhari.


Na you sabi i am not here to drag issues
Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by Nobody: 10:53am On May 24, 2020
SocialJustice:




Do not quote me again, I hate interacting with ignorant and proud people.

“The President signed the Executive Order number 10 into law based on the power vested in him as the President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria under Section 5 of the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria 1999 (as Amended), which extends to the execution and maintenance of the Constitution, laws made by the National Assembly (including but not limited to Section 121(3) of the 1999 Constitution (as Amended), which guarantee financial autonomy of the State Legislature and State Judiciary.

even if you are dumb, you should know what does bolded phrase means.

the Governors want the law implemented. they don't want an executive order where the president decide how much autonomy.

abi you think Governors are not taking legal advice about the wording of the executive order?

let him implement it exactly as received from the national assembly. we don't want a situation where you bind the local government to federal government in the name of giving them autonomy
Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by MondayOsunbor(m): 11:09am On May 24, 2020
Munzy14:
sad
Greedy folks.



please lawyers in this forum please explain what is Executive Order No. 10 of 2020 ?



sound like decrees in Military order? is it the same ? is this even legal?
Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by bizzibodi(m): 11:12am On May 24, 2020
They are wasting there time,d constitution clearly spelt out that their is separation of powers btw executives,judiciary & legislative.
Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by ladundami: 11:22am On May 24, 2020
the issue of this country is bad leadership. these governors r just too greedy. they dontv eally want change and we keep blaming the presidency for every thing.
Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by Nobody: 11:23am On May 24, 2020
Aystarz:
Governors are the problems of most states in the country, but people who don't understand would rather turn to the centre to cast their blames. The true enemy you seek is right inside your state. Turn your radars on him.
Well said.. Same thing i say to folks ever time. Abuja isn't your main problem, its your state & local govts.

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Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by Cocolatti(m): 11:36am On May 24, 2020
Dpharisee:

While commending Buhari for this action but the above story was made up.
Tinubu newspaper journalists will just sit in their parlours and manufacture stories, it's always sources said that the governor's will go to court led by senior lawyers, sources say a PDP governor was angry and an APC governor according to sources was unhappy.

Not a single name of anyone at the centre of this article apart from Late Abba Kyari was mentioned in this article, they keep making Nigerians to believe that journalists in the Nation are bunch of cowards who are afraid to call a spade a spade. Sahara reporters will not write a story like this. They will call names
cool
Don't mind the lazy brown envelope journalists. All they do is to hide in their bedrooms and type their imaginations and permutations and present it as News.

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Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by shineeye1: 11:37am On May 24, 2020
Those bastards called governors are opposed to this progressive executive order for ONE diabolical reason:

“This is to ensure their continued unprogressive control on the lawmakers.”


May God twist their demonic heads till they are all broken in Jesus name. Amen n Amen
Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by Caseless: 11:52am On May 24, 2020
The governor lost the local government to autonomy, they are about to lose their little influence over commissioners of police in their various states because a bill just passed 3rd read the house of rep, now they have lost the state judiciary and legislature to the autonomous drive of this administration. I'm impressed.



Just take the power to conduct LGs election from them and put it under INEC so that the LGs can be fully autonomous. After this, Baba would have done everything for me and left a lasting legacy.

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Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by bekpo(m): 12:04pm On May 24, 2020
LibertyRep:
PMB should please add the Local Governments to the list if he can.

Any Governor who doesn't like it can resign.

Soon states will begin to form and empower anti-corruption agencies.
.

That was done since last year!
Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by senatordave1(m): 12:08pm On May 24, 2020
fergie001:
Senatordave1.....we were saying this some days ago that the Govs will fight back.

In my little understanding of law, any alteration or amendment to the Constitution should have to go through the NA...as fantastic as this is, I think this Executive Order might be rightly challenged.


ejimatic ......help us here!

Well on a second thought,the executive order may be the best move since the constitution already granted financial autonomy to the 2 organs.buhari through the attorney gen is only invoking or activating or resurrecting that constitutional provision that has been neglected.what is the need of passing another bill or going through the rigorous process of amending what is already provided?

From the statements of the unnamed governors,they are not against autonomy totally but are angry that it came from the presidency direct without their knowledge.they wanted to delay and negotiate the terms of the autonomy in their own favour.so buhari might just be right
Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by senatordave1(m): 12:11pm On May 24, 2020
ejimatic:
. Executive order is the last resort. I wonder why it is not allowed to pass thru the national assembly since it is a constitutional matter.The PDP governors may challenge this in court but the APC governors may let the sleeping dog lie by working with their president on the matter. In sum the executive order is an aberration in a federal system of government .It mist be processed speedily according to provisions we have in the law

Since the said autonomy was already expressly provided in the constitution,the order is trite and it behoves on the AGF to enforce it
Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by ejimatic: 12:18pm On May 24, 2020
senatordave1:


Well on a second thought,the executive order may be the best move since the constitution already granted financial autonomy to the 2 organs.buhari through the attorney gen is only invoking or activating or resurrecting that constitutional provision that has been neglected.what is the need of passing another bill or going through the rigorous process of amending what is already provided?

From the statements of the unnamed governors,they are not against autonomy totally but are angry that it came from the presidency direct without their knowledge.they wanted to delay and negotiate the terms of the autonomy in their own favour.so buhari might just be right
. I agree with you and appreciate your contribution! However it is possible for another president to reverse it in future. That is why it is good to discuss together and bind it constitutionally.Autonomy is a constitutional matter especially that of State Houses of Assembly and Judiciary.
Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by senatordave1(m): 12:21pm On May 24, 2020
ejimatic:
. I agree with you and appreciate your contribution! However it is possible for another president to reverse it in future. That is why it is good to discuss together and bind it constitutionally.Autonomy is a constitutional matter especially that of State Houses of Assembly and Judiciary.

You are right.I think the matter should go to the supreme court who will settle it.for now,let the two bodies be on first line charge
Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by ejimatic: 12:23pm On May 24, 2020
senatordave1:


Since the said autonomy was already expressly provided in the constitution,the order is trite and it behoves on the AGF to enforce it
. The autonomy of State Houses of Assembly and Judiciary of the state is not fully in the 1999 constitution. The constitution must be repealed to accommodate this autonomy that cannot be set aside by any future President.
Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by ejimatic: 12:25pm On May 24, 2020
senatordave1:


You are right.I think the matter should go to the supreme court who will settle it.for now,let the two bodies be on first line charge
. Seconded....I stand with you
Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by Nobody: 12:27pm On May 24, 2020
Crownbefitsme:
• May challenge order in court
• Why President took action, by aide
• Executive Order hailed by SANs





https://thenationonlineng.net/govs-kick-as-buhari-okays-financial-autonomy-for-assemblies-judiciary/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Although I'm not a fan of GMB but I can't deny the benefits of what he has done for this nation by granting autonomy to the judiciary and legislature at the state levels. An end has come to the impunity of State governors who have captured and rendered useless these two tiers of government at the state level.

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Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by senatordave1(m): 12:28pm On May 24, 2020
ejimatic:
. The autonomy of State Houses of Assembly and Judiciary of the state is not fully in the 1999 constitution. The constitution must be repealed to accommodate this autonomy that cannot be set aside by any future President.

Sorry sir,we don't need to be told that state legislature and judiciary must be independent which includes financial independence.this is surely the intendment of the drafters and the supreme court will not miss this
Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by ddippset(m): 12:35pm On May 24, 2020
dadebayo1:



Na you sabi i am not here to drag issues
But of course you aren't!
Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by ejimatic: 12:38pm On May 24, 2020
senatordave1:


Sorry sir,we don't need to be told that state legislature and judiciary must be independent which includes financial independence.this is surely the intendment of the drafters and the supreme court will not miss this
. Your opinion is true.The focus now is State HA and Judiciary. Some state executives do what they like on this matter.That is why giving autonomy to the SHA and Judiciary must be a constitutional matter like that of the federal government. This provision must be incorporated into the 1999 constitution and be spelt out in full terms for future references I agree with you that the SC will have a final say in this matter.
Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by gowonmaharajah(m): 12:39pm On May 24, 2020
Pope22:
Please what does this financial autonomy mean in a simple and short words for people like us to understand? Thanks
it simply means an institution being independent enough to carry out some things without queries or questions
adding financial to it,legislative and judiciary arms in each states will directly be getting funds from the federation account without interference from the state governor.
so the clerks of the house will be the accounting officer henceforth where the funds will go to directly.
Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by gowonmaharajah(m): 12:44pm On May 24, 2020
Lostz:

ordinary high court judge can suspend or set it aside
Lol,what are you saying na?
let the NGF take the case to anywhere... no judge will attend to the case.

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Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by Nobody: 1:03pm On May 24, 2020
Onlyonebuhari:
Governors don't want FG to control them yet they want to control state Assemblies and judiciary. Greedy fellows.
Gbam! Well said.

Great decision by Mr President!
Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by Pro2makx(m): 1:07pm On May 24, 2020
For the first time in 5years, baba has impressed me.
Meanwhile, governors are in sifia pains. 1st it was LG, go go go gon gone!
Them it was influence on CPs, go go go gon gone!!
And now legislature and the judiciary, go go go gon gone!!!
Baba Bu, you are currently doing well. Any right step directed at strengthening Nigeria already severely abuse democracy, is welicum
Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by Ugogabriel(m): 1:15pm On May 24, 2020
The financial autonomy is already in the Constitution as amended and signed in 2018. The executive order is not a law but the exercise of the power given to the president in section 5 of the Constitution to give effect or force to the implimentation of what is already in the Constitution
Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by Ugogabriel(m): 1:18pm On May 24, 2020
ejimatic:
. Your opinion is true.The focus now is State HA and Judiciary. Some state executives do what they like on this matter.That is why giving autonomy to the SHA and Judiciary must be a constitutional matter like that of the federal government. This provision must be incorporated into the 1999 constitution and be spelt out in full terms for future references I agree with you that the SC will have a final say in this matter.

The autonomy is already in the Constitution as amended in 2018 section 121. The president is only giving effect to it as empowered by the 1999 Constitution section 5
Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by Ugogabriel(m): 1:20pm On May 24, 2020
ejimatic:
. The autonomy of State Houses of Assembly and Judiciary of the state is not fully in the 1999 constitution. The constitution must be repealed to accommodate this autonomy that cannot be set aside by any future President.

You are very wrong. It was Incorporated in the 2018 Constitution amendment and was singed into law by buhari. Refere to section 121 of the last amended Constitution.
Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by fergie001: 1:37pm On May 24, 2020
senatordave1:


Well on a second thought,the executive order may be the best move since the constitution already granted financial autonomy to the 2 organs.buhari through the attorney gen is only invoking or activating or resurrecting that constitutional provision that has been neglected.what is the need of passing another bill or going through the rigorous process of amending what is already provided?

From the statements of the unnamed governors,they are not against autonomy totally but are angry that it came from the presidency direct without their knowledge.they wanted to delay and negotiate the terms of the autonomy in their own favour.so buhari might just be right
I am peer-reviewing 121(3) of 1999 Constitution (as amended).
We must congratulate Saraki/Dogara-led-National Assembly in 2018.

In the words of Karibi-Whyte, J.S.C, (SC 4/1996; 28/5/99) vide in Attorney General of the Federation Vs. Guardian Newspapers Ltd:“A notable feature of the amended Constitution… is the distribution of the exercise of government functions among the three principal and separate departments of the Legislature, the Executive and the Judiciary. The Constitution also prescribed scope and limits for each department and that within its jurisdiction, the exercise of power is supreme. Accordingly, implicit in the power so vested, the one was not to interfere in the exercise of power of the other, except to the extent to which the Constitution confers such power of interference. This is the hallowed principle of the separation of powers first formulated by Montesquieu and now nearly perfected in the Constitution .… As a general rule therefore, except otherwise expressly provided or incidental to powers conferred, the legislature cannot exercise either executive or judiciary power; the judiciary cannot exercise either executive or legislative power……” I regret to say that this is not the case with our democracy which is anything but far from the idea of a limited Government. As long as one branch of Government possesses the power to act in the absence of explicit legislative authorization, so long we will continue to endure a dysfunctional democracy.

I am forced to step back and thoroughly align with your submissions.

Not only is Buhari right, his signing of its implementation is novel and should be commended.

Ejimatic....

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Re: Governors Kick As Buhari Okays Financial Autonomy For Assemblies, Judiciary by hotplate: 2:28pm On May 24, 2020
This Executive order of a thing how is it diffrent from millitocracy? i would have commend the president for doing this but i remember that my state assembly signed against their own autonomy some time last year. so why should buhari be forcing food down the throat of someone who doesn't want to eat

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