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Re: Misconceptions About Slavery In The Bible for Atheists/Theists by onlyfacts: 3:41pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
LordReed: Thank you |
Re: Misconceptions About Slavery In The Bible for Atheists/Theists by LordReed(m): 3:44pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
onlyfacts: So we go from you have misconceptions to full on justifying slavery, wow. As I said if this is what your god could do then he is no better than a barbarian warlord so I don't see why you owe such a being any allegiance unless of course you like the things this being does. |
Re: Misconceptions About Slavery In The Bible for Atheists/Theists by LordReed(m): 3:46pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
onlyfacts: For? |
Re: Misconceptions About Slavery In The Bible for Atheists/Theists by Bacteriologist(m): 3:50pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
LordReed: The power of indoctrination and brainwashing. But it's getting better. Do you think more people are asking questions about religion? I think people are getting less scared of religious scare tactics. And that's a really good thing. What are your thoughts? 1 Like |
Re: Misconceptions About Slavery In The Bible for Atheists/Theists by onlyfacts: 3:52pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
LordReed: What I posted was an extract from the first post I made here. The peaceful nature of today's was not the reality of the past. Conflicts existed a lot in ancient times. Steady global peace is a driving factor for the abolution of slavery even though it may persist in other forms called modern slavery. Sex Trafficking, Child Sex Trafficking. Forced Labor. Bonded Labor or Debt Bondage. Domestic Servitude. Forced Child Labor. Unlawful Recruitment and Use of Child Soldiers.etc |
Re: Misconceptions About Slavery In The Bible for Atheists/Theists by LordReed(m): 3:56pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Bacteriologist: Yes I think more and more people are asking questions that religion cannot answer. Mostly because we have access to more information than any other time in human history and also because the world is now a sort of global village. That lack of exposure used to make us think our own small corner of the world was all there was and our experiences the most profound. That access has corrected some of our myopia. |
Re: Misconceptions About Slavery In The Bible for Atheists/Theists by LordReed(m): 3:57pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
onlyfacts: So your god had no hand in abolishing slavery, is that not an indictment on your god? |
Re: Misconceptions About Slavery In The Bible for Atheists/Theists by onlyfacts: 4:04pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
LordReed: The title of this post is MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT SLAVERY IN THE BIBLE FOR ATHEIST/THEIST. This I have explained in details above. The abolishing of slavery is yet another topic that has answers in the Bible. As you have brought it up, I will like to address it in a subsequent post but a topic at a time. |
Re: Misconceptions About Slavery In The Bible for Atheists/Theists by LordReed(m): 4:24pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
onlyfacts: Then you didn't show we have any misconception about slavery. Slavery is owning people as property which your Bible clearly allows. |
Re: Misconceptions About Slavery In The Bible for Atheists/Theists by hakeem4(m): 4:35pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Haaaaa these guys have started twisting the definition to suit their hidden agenda |
Re: Misconceptions About Slavery In The Bible for Atheists/Theists by onlyfacts: 4:39pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
LordReed: The general idea as to slavery and it's cruelty has been misapplied to the Bible. A slave was treated with regard and not cruelty in the bible and there were clear exit plans form slavery, that is the misconception and not the owning of slaves. |
Re: Misconceptions About Slavery In The Bible for Atheists/Theists by onlyfacts: 4:42pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
hakeem4: Be specific please, pick a place and show workings to the twisting and hidden agenda |
Re: Misconceptions About Slavery In The Bible for Atheists/Theists by hakeem4(m): 4:56pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
onlyfacts:I don't have anything to respond to what you wrote up there. The bone of contention is why did god permit those hideous acts before the common era, then secular humanist brought about the abolition of these atrocities in the common era? |
Re: Misconceptions About Slavery In The Bible for Atheists/Theists by onlyfacts: 5:03pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
hakeem4: Slavery from warfare has reduced but still persists. Captives are still taken from regional conflicts. Modern slavery still exist as: Sex Trafficking, Child Sex Trafficking. Forced Labor. Bonded Labor or Debt Bondage. Domestic Servitude. Forced Child Labor. Unlawful Recruitment and UseofChildSoldiers.etc The International Labour Organization estimates that, by their definitions, over 40 million people are in some form of slavery today. 24.9 million people are in forced labor, of whom 16 million people are exploited in the private sector such as domestic work, construction or agriculture; 4.8 million persons in forced sexual exploitation, and 4 million persons in forced labor imposed by state authorities. 15.4 million people are in forced marriage. |
Re: Misconceptions About Slavery In The Bible for Atheists/Theists by LordReed(m): 5:04pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
onlyfacts: It doesn't matter how well you think the slaves were treated that is not the primary objection. |
Re: Misconceptions About Slavery In The Bible for Atheists/Theists by onlyfacts: 5:05pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
hakeem4: Slavery from warfare has reduced but still persists. Captives are still taken from regional conflicts. Modern slavery still exist as: Sex Trafficking, Child Sex Trafficking. Forced Labor. Bonded Labor or Debt Bondage. Domestic Servitude. Forced Child Labor. Unlawful Recruitment and UseofChildSoldiers.etc The International Labour Organization estimates that, by their definitions, over 40 million people are in some form of slavery today. 24.9 million people are in forced labor, of whom 16 million people are exploited in the private sector such as domestic work, construction or agriculture; 4.8 million persons in forced sexual exploitation, and 4 million persons in forced labor imposed by state authorities. 15.4 million people are in forced marriage. |
Re: Misconceptions About Slavery In The Bible for Atheists/Theists by onlyfacts: 5:06pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
LordReed: That was what I wrote about, it is clear from my post |
Re: Misconceptions About Slavery In The Bible for Atheists/Theists by LordReed(m): 5:21pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
onlyfacts: Well too bad you didn't have the impact you thought it would. The suffering or otherwise of slaves is not why atheists object to slavery in the Bible. |
Re: Misconceptions About Slavery In The Bible for Atheists/Theists by onlyfacts: 5:26pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
LordReed: If it didn't have an impact on you, it's fine. Others will judge for themselves. |
Re: Misconceptions About Slavery In The Bible for Atheists/Theists by Bacteriologist(m): 7:44pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
LordReed: I agree completely. I find the rate at which information spreads in this time and age is really making ignorance -which is essentially what religion thrives on- to die quickly. The future looks bright. |
Re: Misconceptions About Slavery In The Bible for Atheists/Theists by LordReed(m): 8:04pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Bacteriologist: Don't expect religion to die quickly or quietly, people like their comforts and hopes for magically enhanced outcomes. |
Re: Misconceptions About Slavery In The Bible for Atheists/Theists by MacCantStopMe: 8:12pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
The op, like many Christians are deluded when it comes to the brutal nature of their bible. How can a sane person argue that biblical slavery was humane, and even try to give it context? The only context you need to know is the Israelites or people at the time of the old testament were barbaric. These were people who stoned their children to death for disobedience. They stoned their neighbors for disobeying the sabbath. How do you think they treated their slaves? |
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