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Re: Planned Defection: PDP Leadership To Decide On Obaseki Today by ofiko123(m): 9:25am On Jun 18, 2020
We are keeping our fingers crossed.. Quietly monitoring the situation..
Re: Planned Defection: PDP Leadership To Decide On Obaseki Today by asobo: 9:36am On Jun 18, 2020
PIMPAR:
Here marks the end of PDP in Edo state, immediately the party ticket is handed to Obaseki. Those existing aspirants will definitely bury PDP. You can take that to the bank
The same Obaseki that said he was fighting godfatherism in Edo few weeks ago. He has gone to lobby Atiku, He has gone to lick Wike boot. He was seen bowing for Tambuwal and Udom few days ago.
When you have IPOB as your supporters, you are bound to be confused
Keep masturbating on PDP's issue. Oyo is your case
Re: Planned Defection: PDP Leadership To Decide On Obaseki Today by Dansuqi: 9:38am On Jun 18, 2020
Cantonese:


Hahahahahaha. Abeg mallam where are you from? Zamfara abi Congo?

PDP lost power simply because they were over confident. APC gained power simply because the people were tired of PDP, listened to propaganda and wanted a change. That APC is not as politically suave as PDP is clear to all to see.

Let's agree that the primaries will be by direct voting. Which faction will APC Nwc now listen to? Which factional/local/state chairmen sacked Oshiomole? Was it Imuse? If it was not does that not show you the recognised faction?

Now the APC candidates have to deal with the recognised faction. If that is the case how can a candidate not originally recognised by the accepted faction sideline the legitimate people? As it stands I can safely use the word illegitimate faction. That's where Oshiomole's group belongs. Where will they find the power to talk?

Did you not listen to Shuaibu's speech? He said "I move with the governor. Where he goes, I go".

What was the "original plan" you mentioned?

See if Ize Iyamu does not get the ticket, it will be clear evidence of luck against him and the failed remove-Obaseki-at-all-cost plan if Oshimole. Iyamu joined the wrong faction thinking that he would not win governorship on the platform of PDP.

You are not getting it..those people that sacked oshiomhole were already suspended...the nwc recognises imuse faction.anyway,all that will be argued at the courts....

You pdp fans are too emotional.so politicians that arw famed for lies are the ones you will now believe? So because shuaibu said he will follow obaseki,he means it from his heart? Arw you in his heart? A politician will always follow where his interests are protected.so where best will his future interests be protected?

Even a kid knows that pastor iyamu will never be loyal to oshiomhole,he will be worse than obaseki and oshiomhole needs true loyalty which he can get from only odubu.the major power behind edo pdp is pastor and he has been lured away from pdp.you can see how weak the remaining pdp aspirants are.don't be surprised if odubu wins that ticket...whoever wins the ticket does not need to deal with any faction.he can always buy over anslem ojezua afterall obaseki bought him over from oshiomhole. Its politics,no sentiments attached..

Pdp lost to apc not just because of over confidence.apc were simply better. They may not be fantastic in performing but will always thrash pdp at the election ground.take a look at second us and oshiomhole and their electoral records.

In essence,this is another buhari vs atiku situation and you know how it will end.obaseki can still win but the chances are low
Re: Planned Defection: PDP Leadership To Decide On Obaseki Today by ebuka440: 9:41am On Jun 18, 2020
This is just what I have been thinking all these while concerning his defection to PDP. APC is so cunning to the extent that maybe after winning under the PDP platform, they will use the court to quash his victory. PDP should better screen him well and not be in a rush to offer him any ticket

author=lopjohnny post=90792202]I just want them to thoroughly think it through. Bearing it in mind that the same certificate issue that accounted for his doom in APC can be revisited peradventure he wins the election in the umbrella party.

APC still has his record, they are waiting for the right time to unveil it.[/quote]
Re: Planned Defection: PDP Leadership To Decide On Obaseki Today by Eddie4God(m): 9:42am On Jun 18, 2020
lopjohnny:
I just want them to thoroughly think it through. Bearing it in mind that the same certificate issue that accounted for his doom in APC can be revisited peradventure he wins the election in the umbrella party.

APC still has his record, they are waiting for the right time to unveil it.

Obaseki's certificate issue is very minor. Nothing serious.
All he need is his SSCE certificate or attestation (if d certificate is lost) and a sworn affidavit.
His disqualification from the APC primary is more about politics nd Oshiomole's handwork
Re: Planned Defection: PDP Leadership To Decide On Obaseki Today by Cantonese: 9:49am On Jun 18, 2020
Dansuqi:


You are not getting it..those people that sacked oshiomhole were already suspended...the nwc recognises imuse faction.anyway,all that will be argued at the courts....

You pdp fans are too emotional.so politicians that arw famed for lies are the ones you will now believe? So because shuaibu said he will follow obaseki,he means it from his heart? Arw you in his heart? A politician will always follow where his interests are protected.so where best will his future interests be protected?

Even a kid knows that pastor iyamu will never be loyal to oshiomhole,he will be worse than obaseki and oshiomhole needs true loyalty which he can get from only odubu.the major power behind edo pdp is pastor and he has been lured away from pdp.you can see how weak the remaining pdp aspirants are.don't be surprised if odubu wins that ticket...whoever wins the ticket does not need to deal with any faction.he can always buy over anslem ojezua afterall obaseki bought him over from oshiomhole. Its politics,no sentiments attached..

Pdp lost to apc not just because of over confidence.apc were simply better. They may not be fantastic in performing but will always thrash pdp at the election ground.take a look at second us and oshiomhole and their electoral records.

In essence,this is another buhari vs atiku situation and you know how it will end.obaseki can still win but the chances are low


If they were truly sacked, how did the Federal high court and Court of Appeal back the sacking of Oshiomole as the national chairman and a member of the APC.

APC were never better than PDP. Do not forget that for APC to become a nationally accepted party, many hugely PDP men joined them and made it work. Take a close look at APC and you'll find that aside from Buhari and Tinubu, the major playing powers in APC are former PDP men.

If APC always thrashed PDP at elections why are some telling us all of federal might/power? Take off security personnel, money and thugs and you'll see how it plays out.
Re: Planned Defection: PDP Leadership To Decide On Obaseki Today by seunayantokun(m): 10:15am On Jun 18, 2020
pastorcyrus:

Bro that APC trap will catch an empty wind,he only needs to present his waec certificate without even bringing those controversial ones.electoral act only mandated SSCE for one to be qualified to contest governorship election in naija,moreover he only needed affidavit to consolidate his Nysc discharge certificate which is bearing OBASEK",I was omitted mistakenly. Watch how Obaseki will win that election if given PDP, s ticket. They tried federal might against wike in 2019 but met their match in all level and PDP destroyed them in rivers state in that election. Just take wike,s advice and watch how oshomole will be disgraced in that September election
Since he served, NYSC has his record. So, he can apply for name correction. They will give him another one or a letter of confirmation of identity and name
Re: Planned Defection: PDP Leadership To Decide On Obaseki Today by Nobody: 10:21am On Jun 18, 2020
pastorcyrus:

Bro that APC trap will catch an empty wind,he only needs to present his waec certificate without even bringing those controversial ones.electoral act only mandated SSCE for one to be qualified to contest governorship election in naija,moreover he only needed affidavit to consolidate his Nysc discharge certificate which is bearing OBASEK",I was omitted mistakenly. Watch how Obaseki will win that election if given PDP, s ticket. They tried federal might against wike in 2019 but met their match in all level and PDP destroyed them in rivers state in that election. Just take wike,s advice and watch how oshomole will be disgraced in that September election

See how ignorant you are. Apc had no candidate in 2019 elections in rivers state.
Re: Planned Defection: PDP Leadership To Decide On Obaseki Today by tuniski: 10:31am On Jun 18, 2020
lopjohnny:
I just want them to thoroughly think it through. Bearing it in mind that the same certificate issue that accounted for his doom in APC can be revisited peradventure he wins the election in the umbrella party.

APC still has his record, they are waiting for the right time to unveil it.
Stop this lame talk , obaseki has no issue with certificate. Abi is O'level not the requirement?
Re: Planned Defection: PDP Leadership To Decide On Obaseki Today by jrusky(m): 10:34am On Jun 18, 2020
Dansuqi:


From cert to election

Let me now educate you a bit.

Now that apc as acted foolishly to quickly showed Obaseki their weapon, Obaseki need to go to court swear affidavit to address the name issue and publish on newspaper afterall there are Non apc newspapers all over the country and In as far truly he atrended the Uni and did his NYSC for real and the said Certs are not Oluwole then it can be rectify bro. If ordinary citizen can contest error in their Education Cert base on a omitted letter in their name, marriage Cert etc via court then what stop Obaseki as he is still the governor and Edo Judiciary stil under his control and UI is in PDP control state then institution has no reason to deny him whatever assistant he needed to put the error out once and for all.


Obaseki should get good lawyer this cert case is lightweight as I said in as far he truly attended the Uni and the cert in Question were issued by the Uni bro sorry this is no case. Let Obaseki finish the job undergroundly then launch his defection and wait patiently for apc thrash he will destroy apc in the court I'm sure of that. So sink that to your head only death has no solution under the heaven. Do you understand now.
Re: Planned Defection: PDP Leadership To Decide On Obaseki Today by LandMann: 10:40am On Jun 18, 2020
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Re: Planned Defection: PDP Leadership To Decide On Obaseki Today by Dansuqi: 11:45am On Jun 18, 2020
Cantonese:



If they were truly sacked, how did the Federal high court and Court of Appeal back the sacking of Oshiomole as the national chairman and a member of the APC.

APC were never better than PDP. Do not forget that for APC to become a nationally accepted party, many hugely PDP men joined them and made it work. Take a close look at APC and you'll find that aside from Buhari and Tinubu, the major playing powers in APC are former PDP men.

If APC always thrashed PDP at elections why are some telling us all of federal might/power? Take off security personnel, money and thugs and you'll see how it plays out.

Sorry,oshiomhole was not sacked but suspended illegally.courts esp abuja area courts like giving frivolous orders that is if you have been following court cases.courts nowadays give judgments indiscriminately and to the highest bidder and in disregard of previous judgments.what the abuja court gave was an exparte order suspending him while the main matter will be heard later and the appeal court simply sustained that order while the matter will be heard.they have not gone into the matter of deciding the legality or otherwise of his suspension or whether a court already suspended those ward exco that illegally suspended him...

If you take away the contributions of those pdp members that joined apc,apc would still have won.if you disagree,how come after the defections of saraki,atiku,kwankwaso and 2 other governors back to pdp,apc still won by a larger margin?

You can never take out federal might from any equation after all pdp once wielded it and were defeated.let pdp also defeat apc without federal kight.pdp used it ruthlessly esp under obj.apc will also use it.it is turn by turn.apc are not even as ruthless as pdp obj did not tolerate any opposition.as apc and pdp is presently constituted,apc will keep winning aso rock...


Obaseki is a small boy in politics.ize iyamu is a senior man,the best in edo.he has been in politics since 1999 at the top level.he is just like wike in rivers.obaseki was made governor by oshio,he has little or no structure.even without federal might,he lost narrowly.he now has it.being a governor means nothing.most edo politicians will prefer pastor to obaseki.even odubu is far ahead of obaseki...
Re: Planned Defection: PDP Leadership To Decide On Obaseki Today by Dansuqi: 12:03pm On Jun 18, 2020
jrusky:


Let me now educate you a bit.

Now that apc as acted foolishly to quickly showed Obaseki their weapon, Obaseki need to go to court swear affidavit to address the name issue and publish on newspaper afterall there are Non apc newspapers all over the country and In as far truly he atrended the Uni and did his NYSC for real and the said Certs are not Oluwole then it can be rectify bro. If ordinary citizen can contest error in their Education Cert base on a omitted letter in their name, marriage Cert etc via court then what stop Obaseki as he is still the governor and Edo Judiciary stil under his control and UI is in PDP control state then institution has no reason to deny him whatever assistant he needed to put the error out once and for all.


Obaseki should get good lawyer this cert case is lightweight as I said in as far he truly attended the Uni and the cert in Question were issued by the Uni bro sorry this is no case. Let Obaseki finish the job undergroundly then launch his defection and wait patiently for apc thrash he will destroy apc in the court I'm sure of that. So sink that to your head only death has no solution under the heaven. Do you understand now.

Yes but why has obaseki not done this ever since? It is because they are fake.why has obaseki not addressed his certificates issues up till now? Are you aware he forged an affidavit and this alone can disqualify? Deadline for submission of names is 29 and before now and then,obaseki would not be able to rectify that and he cannot rectify it once PDP or any party submits his names...

Apart from that,he will not be able to defeat pastor or odubu...he is finished....

But your funny oh...he should bribe ui since pdp is controlling oyo and bribe edo judiciary.that is what apc even wants
Re: Planned Defection: PDP Leadership To Decide On Obaseki Today by LLMG: 12:08pm On Jun 18, 2020
keep consoling yourself, its allowed.
AroleOduduwa2:
I don’t know what record zombies are claiming APC has. Zombie should give it a rest already and stop wailing from post to post.

Obaseki only has one term left so any party that fields him have the best chance going into the next election, while whoever apc field have 2 terms.
Re: Planned Defection: PDP Leadership To Decide On Obaseki Today by jrusky(m): 12:14pm On Jun 18, 2020
Dansuqi:


Yes but why has obaseki not done this ever since? It is because they are fake.why has obaseki not addressed his certificates issues up till now? Are you aware he forged an affidavit and this alone can disqualify? Deadline for submission of names is 29 and before now and then,obaseki would not be able to rectify that and he cannot rectify it once PDP or any party submits his names...

Apart from that,he will not be able to defeat pastor or odubu...he is finished....

But your funny oh...he should bribe ui since pdp is controlling oyo and bribe edo judiciary.that is what apc even wants


You got it wrong bro he might just being too ignorant to do the correction never belief it can come to these but now he has learned in hardway not to be too ignorant about so.many things in life moreso no time is too late to rectify error and no constitution stipuulated any time frame on issue like this. Ok

As I have said earlier in as far truly he atrended the institution and did his NYSC for real bro nothing under the heaven with no solution except death

Thank you.
Re: Planned Defection: PDP Leadership To Decide On Obaseki Today by Dansuqi: 12:22pm On Jun 18, 2020
jrusky:



You got it wrong bro he might just being too ignorant to do the correction never belief it can come to these but now he has learned in hardway not to be too ignorant about so.many things in life moreso no time is too late to rectify error and no constitution stipuulated any time frame on issue like this. Ok

Thank you.

Sorry sir,you are the one that is wrong.I dislike this kind of argument.it is a waste just like atiku server result.how can a whole governor not know about corrections of names? Is it not same governor that swore affidavit in 2016.don't make any excuse,he knows everything but does not have it.since 1979,he has not corrected the mistake in his certificate...he forged it boy.

Sorry,there is a time limit.as pdp are submitting his name on 29,his qualifications will be attached.if it has not been corrected,the law requires any party that is aggrieved to photocopy it and take him to court.he will be removed before the elections.
Re: Planned Defection: PDP Leadership To Decide On Obaseki Today by jrusky(m): 12:42pm On Jun 18, 2020
Dansuqi:


Sorry sir,you are the one that is wrong.I dislike this kind of argument.it is a waste just like atiku server result.how can a whole governor not know about corrections of names? Is it not same governor that swore affidavit in 2016.don't make any excuse,he knows everything but does not have it.since 1979,he has not corrected the mistake in his certificate...he forged it boy.

Sorry,there is a time limit.as pdp are submitting his name on 29,his qualifications will be attached.if it has not been corrected,the law requires any party that is aggrieved to photocopy it and take him to court.he will be removed before the elections.

Alright. Good day.
Re: Planned Defection: PDP Leadership To Decide On Obaseki Today by Cantonese: 12:47pm On Jun 18, 2020
Dansuqi:


Sorry,oshiomhole was not sacked but suspended illegally.courts esp abuja area courts like giving frivolous orders that is if you have been following court cases.courts nowadays give judgments indiscriminately and to the highest bidder and in disregard of previous judgments.what the abuja court gave was an exparte order suspending him while the main matter will be heard later and the appeal court simply sustained that order while the matter will be heard.they have not gone into the matter of deciding the legality or otherwise of his suspension or whether a court already suspended those ward exco that illegally suspended him...

If you take away the contributions of those pdp members that joined apc,apc would still have won.if you disagree,how come after the defections of saraki,atiku,kwankwaso and 2 other governors back to pdp,apc still won by a larger margin?

You can never take out federal might from any equation after all pdp once wielded it and were defeated.let pdp also defeat apc without federal kight.pdp used it ruthlessly esp under obj.apc will also use it.it is turn by turn.apc are not even as ruthless as pdp obj did not tolerate any opposition.as apc and pdp is presently constituted,apc will keep winning aso rock...


Obaseki is a small boy in politics.ize iyamu is a senior man,the best in edo.he has been in politics since 1999 at the top level.he is just like wike in rivers.obaseki was made governor by oshio,he has little or no structure.even without federal might,he lost narrowly.he now has it.being a governor means nothing.most edo politicians will prefer pastor to obaseki.even odubu is far ahead of obaseki...


Look at it this way without making it too hard for you to understand. Suspended or sacked as at 7pm two days ago Oshiomole lost hisbparty membership and status. He acknowledged it. As it presently stands his exco is not recognized. While he battles in the courts the politics of the state moves on with the Obaseki faction and whoever emerges their leader.

The contributions of the PDP people cannot be taken away. They already helped APC get power enjoyed by them today.

You do not seem to understand politics. No one is underrated and no one is to be overrated because politics is a game of interest. You can retire your godfather. That's what Oshiomole did and he retired Anenih.

APC now have a run for their money later this year.

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Re: Planned Defection: PDP Leadership To Decide On Obaseki Today by seanfer(m): 12:49pm On Jun 18, 2020
Dansuqi:


Sorry sir,you are the one that is wrong.I dislike this kind of argument.it is a waste just like atiku server result.how can a whole governor not know about corrections of names? Is it not same governor that swore affidavit in 2016.don't make any excuse,he knows everything but does not have it.since 1979,he has not corrected the mistake in his certificate...he forged it boy.

Sorry,there is a time limit.as pdp are submitting his name on 29,his qualifications will be attached.if it has not been corrected,the law requires any party that is aggrieved to photocopy it and take him to court.he will be removed before the elections.

Bro You should help me ask him the reason why Obaseki sworn Affidavit reads He graduated in 1976 and the purported Certificate carries 1979? Does that mean that Obaseki did not know the year he graduated?

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Re: Planned Defection: PDP Leadership To Decide On Obaseki Today by Cantonese: 12:49pm On Jun 18, 2020
Dansuqi:


Sorry sir,you are the one that is wrong.I dislike this kind of argument.it is a waste just like atiku server result.how can a whole governor not know about corrections of names? Is it not same governor that swore affidavit in 2016.don't make any excuse,he knows everything but does not have it.since 1979,he has not corrected the mistake in his certificate...he forged it boy.

Sorry,there is a time limit.as pdp are submitting his name on 29,his qualifications will be attached.if it has not been corrected,the law requires any party that is aggrieved to photocopy it and take him to court.he will be removed before the elections.

He has all his documents now. Nothing to fear for him.

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Re: Planned Defection: PDP Leadership To Decide On Obaseki Today by Dansuqi: 12:50pm On Jun 18, 2020
Cantonese:


He has all his documents now. Nothing to fear for him.

He has nothing sir
Re: Planned Defection: PDP Leadership To Decide On Obaseki Today by Dansuqi: 1:06pm On Jun 18, 2020
Cantonese:



Look at it this way without making it too hard for you to understand. Suspended or sacked as at 7pm two days ago Oshiomole lost hisbparty membership and status. He acknowledged it. As it presently stands his exco is not recognized. While he battles in the courts the politics of the state moves on with the Obaseki faction and whoever emerges their leader.

The contributions of the PDP people cannot be taken away. They already helped APC get power enjoyed by them today.

You do not seem to understand politics. No one is underrated and no one is to be overrated because politics is a game of interest. You can retire your godfather. That's what Oshiomole did and he retired Anenih.

APC now have a run for their money later this year.

You are the one that does not understand politics.oshiomhole suspension changes nothing,the acting chairman and nwc are going ahead with his agenda and the obaseki faction is still ostracized.

I cannot take away the contributions of decampee pdp members but fact remains that apc would still win without them if we are to subtract their votes and funds.majority of Nigerians were already with buhari anyway.that is why when they decamped last year,apc still won meaning they are dispensable though still important.

I am not underrating anybody but politically,everybody have their level.odubu and pastor ahead of obaseki on a normal ground..you can retire your godfather with the right resources and obaseki does not have that except state power which is limited.oshiomhole had help from igbinedions, iyamu and it was through the tribunal... Edo north was completely behind him and majority of the binis...


Mind you,anenih was never oshiomhole godfather.anenih supported osunbor while oshiomhole was supported by pastor,igbinedions ,Edo north and tinubu.he was in acn while anenih was in pdp.oshiomhole decided to give him that respect by allowing him nominate some exco members.anenih power was limited mainly to edo central, he was not strong at the grassroot but depended on rigging.oshiomhole will crush obaseki

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