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Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by coputa(m): 3:43pm On Jun 25, 2020
A pastor is one who preaches the word of God. They are role models to a lot of people because it is believed that, as men of God, they fear him and this is expected to reflect in anything that is connected to them, but unfortunately, their children display unbecoming character that does not portray their foundation. Why is it so?
Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by OYENIYIJK: 3:49pm On Jun 25, 2020
I do ask myself. Most of them can be crazy. Well, may be the devil is using them grin
Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by coputa(m): 4:01pm On Jun 25, 2020
OYENIYIJK:
I do ask myself. Most of them can be crazy. Well, may be the devil is using them grin
if the devil is using them,the father as a man of God is capable of delivering them from any demonic powers.

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Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by XXXXTENTACION: 4:01pm On Jun 25, 2020
A snake will always give birth to a snake. undecided


a fruit does not fall far from the tree. undecided


699

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Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by OYENIYIJK: 4:05pm On Jun 25, 2020
coputa:
if the devil is using them,the father as a man of God is capable of delivering them from any demonic powers.
as they deliver the devil in Corona Virus abi?

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Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by BackllGodNaija: 4:05pm On Jun 25, 2020
They call it freewill...Children are free to choose their own paths whether their parents were pastors or not. That's what all children have in common regardless of their upbringing...if they're brought up by pastors or not. Although upbringing can be influential, it doesn't guarantee anything. That's why you can have a godly Samuel produce ungodly children, while an ungodly Saul, produce a godly Jonathan. It doesn't make Samuel a bad parent or Saul a good one. Ultimately it's the child that decides if he would follow the path of his parents or depart from it.

Moreover God is assumed to be the Father of Adam, so does Adam's decision not to follow the path of his supposed Father make Him a bad parent? Certainly not!

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Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by Juliusmomoh: 4:07pm On Jun 25, 2020
Shut up, am a pastor son here, and am not living to his name because everyone has his or her own destiny to take care of.. God called him as a pastor, he don't called me.
#case closed
Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by Righteousness89(m): 4:09pm On Jun 25, 2020
That's because being a pastor child does not automatically grant u Salvation ...

It's a Personal decision!

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Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by VirginFinder: 4:30pm On Jun 25, 2020
Righteousness89:
That's because being a pastor child does not automatically grant u Ssalvation ...

It's a Ppersonal decision!
Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by coputa(m): 4:49pm On Jun 25, 2020
Righteousness89:
That's because being a pastor child does not automatically grant u Salvation ...

It's a Personal decision!
@Rigtheousness89 apart from salvation,most of them behave akwardly,some 're involved in stealing,armed robbery and kidnapping, some of them are euen gays and lesbians.as children of pastors are they not suppose to live above board or is it that pastors are not good at parenting.
Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by coputa(m): 4:56pm On Jun 25, 2020
BackllGodNaija:
They call it freewill...Children are free to choose their own paths whether their parents were pastors or not. That's what all children have in common regardless of their upbringing...if they're brought up by pastors or not. Although upbringing can be influential, it doesn't guarantee anything. That's why you can have a godly Samuel produce ungodly children, while an ungodly Saul, produce a godly Jonathan. It doesn't make Samuel a bad parent or Saul a good one. Ultimately it's the child that decides if he would follow the path of his parents or depart from it.

Moreover God is assumed to be the Father of Adam, so does Adam's decision not to follow the part of his supposed Father make Him a bad parent? Certainly not!
What if the the child is taking a wrong path,as a parent,are you not suppose to correct the child.thats why the bible said"teach a child the way he should go,and when he is old he cannot depart from it".

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Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by Righteousness89(m): 5:05pm On Jun 25, 2020
coputa:
@Rigtheousness89 apart from salvation,most of them behave akwardly,some 're involved in stealing,armed robbery and kidnapping, some of them are euen gays and lesbians.as children of pastors are they not suppose to live above board or is it that pastors are not good at parenting.

You are very Correct!
But The truth is pastor's childor not pastor's child is not really the problem..

Any person outside JESUS can go to any height of sin.

I used to be a terrible Sinner also..


It's Conciously and personally deciding to Accept JESUS that makes me different today!

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Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by BackllGodNaija: 5:35pm On Jun 25, 2020
coputa:
What if the the child is taking a wrong path,as a parent,are you not suppose to correct the child.thats why the bible said"teach a child the way he should go,and when he is old he cannot depart from it".
Kindly display a screen shot where you got the "cannot" part of your Bible quote from, so I would know where the error is coming from. My response hinges on that.
Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by Kobojunkie: 6:22pm On Jun 25, 2020
coputa:
A pastor is one who preaches the word of God. They are role models to a lot of people because it is believed that, as men of God, they fear him and this is expected to reflect in anything that is connected to them, but unfortunately, their children display unbecoming character that does not portray their foundation. Why is it so?

Cursed is the man who puts his trust in another man, and makes flesh and blood his strength.... jeremiah 17
Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by Missyajoke(f): 6:29pm On Jun 25, 2020
My own quota: Most Pastor's face the pulpit and ignore their family, claiming to be busy with ministry work. Your Ministry and Family must go hand in hand, not that you'll face the ministry and ignore the home, it must be balanced.. kiss kiss kiss kiss kiss
As a Pastor as you minister in church you must also minister at home and pray for your children
too. Ministry work is prone to many attack and Yoruba people use to say " towo kobaka baba yo ka omo". If the pastor is strong spiritually what of his wife and his children... You also can't blame them too, do you think it is easy to climb the pulpit and preach true and raw Gospel without attacks from the Devil? HELL NO.

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Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by mumumugu(m): 6:52pm On Jun 25, 2020
coputa:
What if the the child is taking a wrong path,as a parent,are you not suppose to correct the child.thats why the bible said"teach a child the way he should go,and when he is old he cannot depart from it".

what if the pastor is following the wrong path ?
Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by mumumugu(m): 6:53pm On Jun 25, 2020
pastors force their kids. nothing forced last forever
Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by coputa(m): 6:58pm On Jun 25, 2020
mumumugu:


what if the pastor is following the wrong path ?
should the children be punished for their father's sin.
Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by coputa(m): 7:03pm On Jun 25, 2020
mumumugu:
pastors force their kids.
nothing forced last forever
If you 're forced to do the right thing,especially from your parent,as you grow up,you should be able to know the difference.that's why most children celebrate their parents for showing them the right path.
Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by Kobojunkie: 7:58pm On Jun 25, 2020
coputa:
If you 're forced to do the right thing,especially from your parent,as you grow up,you should be able to know the difference.that's why most children celebrate their parents for showing them the right path.
na lie!
What is the RIGHT thing?
Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by Nobody: 9:34pm On Jun 25, 2020
coputa:
A pastor is one who preaches the word of God. They are role models to a lot of people because it is believed that, as men of God, they fear him and this is expected to reflect in anything that is connected to them, but unfortunately, their children display unbecoming character that does not portray their foundation. Why is it so?

The reason is because they're false not real men of God! smiley

God's word says we must teach our children not just verbally but by examples {Deuteronomy 6:4-9} these people pretends before their gullible followers but their children who sees everything they're doing can't be deceived into believing what their Pastor fathers and mothers says but what they see them doing! wink

By their fruits you will know them! Mathew 7:16-20

If they're truly for God, it will surely be one out of 12 child born to Pastors that should be a Judas Iscariot not the other way round, in fact most of their children whom you're seeing as good children have also become deceptive like their parents, not because they have any fear of God in them but because they're looking forward to inheriting their parents business empire (the church)! wink

So in the actual fact it's those seen as bad children that are truthfully living a honest life because they don't want to deceive anybody into seeing them for what they're not on the inside! wink
Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by petra1(m): 9:48pm On Jun 25, 2020
coputa:
, but unfortunately, their children display unbecoming character that does not portray their foundation. . . .

But how come when we have a minister.who brings his sons up alright and they eventually end up in ministry we still have people here criticizing them and say its family business

coputa:
@Rigtheousness89 apart from salvation,most of them . . is it that pastors are not good at parenting.

Not at all . . Well they have a responsibility to train them aright but it happened in the bible days too Eli sons were worldly. So a Pastor has dual responsibility. The church and the home . Satan takes special interest in attacking ministers children and sometimes the minister feels "IF I TAKE CARE OF GODS HOUSE ,HE WILL TAKE CARE OF MY HOUSEHOLD " but it's not so . You must pay attention to the two .
Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by Nobody: 10:37pm On Jun 25, 2020
petra1:

But how come when we have a minister.who brings his sons up alright and they eventually end up in ministry we still have people here criticizing them and say its family business
Jesus Christ had junior brothers but none of them was chosen as Apostle, the only two out of about six siblings he had accepted Christianity. So if it's not family business there is nothing that should bring the name of a child into the fold of ministers when all those working together with his father as a team are still alive.
Whatever makes a son to have direct access to the church fund or a say in the affairs of the church when members who have been serving faithfully are still there is no more God's work but family business Sir! cheesy




Not at all . . Well they have a responsibility to train them aright but it happened in the bible days too Eli sons were worldly. So a Pastor has dual responsibility. The church and the home . Satan takes special interest in attacking ministers children and sometimes the minister feels "IF I TAKE CARE OF GODS HOUSE ,HE WILL TAKE CARE OF MY HOUSEHOLD " but it's not so . You must pay attention to the two .

What happened to Eli repeated itself in the life of faithful Samuel as well, by then the holy spirit has not been released to monitor the worshipers so that selfishness and promiscuity can't be, so it happened before Pentecost but after that, God's pure worship has been under the strict watch of the spirit so that deceit or promiscuity can't hold anymore! Act 5:1-11

And as for Pastors loosing a tight hold on his family with the flimsy excuse of taking care of God's flock is no excuse Sir! 1Timothy 3:5 smiley
Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by Nobody: 10:59pm On Jun 25, 2020
Kumuyi turned his female followers into mourners as they will dress like old women.
Most of his gullible members and majority believed his deceit, but when his own son got married Kumuyi's daughter in-law ignored all the things imposed on his church members.
A member once argued that Mr Kumuyi never attended the wedding but pictures don't lie nah! smiley

Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by Emusan(m): 2:14am On Jun 26, 2020
Maximus69:

Jesus Christ had junior brothers but none of them was chosen as Apostle, the only two out of about six siblings he had accepted Christianity. So if it's not family business there is nothing that should bring the name of a child into the fold of ministers when all those working together with his father as a team are still alive.
Whatever makes a son to have direct access to the church fund or a say in the affairs of the church when members who have been serving faithfully are still there is no more God's work but family business Sir!

What happened to Eli repeated itself in the life of faithful Samuel as well, by then the holy spirit has not been released to monitor the worshipers so that selfishness and promiscuity can't be, so it happened before Pentecost but after that, God's pure worship has been under the strict watch of the spirit so that deceit or promiscuity can't hold anymore! Act 5:1-11

And as for Pastors loosing a tight hold on his family with the flimsy excuse of taking care of God's flock is no excuse Sir! 1Timothy 3:5 smiley


Yet

Adultery
Child Abuse
Divorce

Still reign in your demonic organization.

Keep lying for your demonic god!

Hypocrite!
Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by Nobody: 5:49am On Jun 26, 2020
Emusan:

Yet

Adultery
Child Abuse
Divorce


Still reign in your demonic organization.

Keep lying for your demonic god!

Hypocrite!

If you're not deceiving yourself how many of the bolded here in Nigeria that has been reported amongst JWs?

That's why most of my brothers call you "mumungus" Sir! cheesy

The Jesus story you and i are hearing today differs completely from the reports that Pharisees,Saddusees,Scribes,Priests and others Jewish Rabbis wish to spread about him. That's why till today most Jews condemned the reports his followers penned down referred to as gospels.
If you're not really stupid, in your own locality here in Nigeria how many reports of Adultery, Child abuse and Divorce cases have you heard amongst God's people?
You choose to blur your senses to what is happening in your neighbourhood but you want to parade the mixed reports from far distant lands that you can't even verify! cheesy
If not for Jehovah's Witnesses the Bible will always remain a myth because all the reports of how the Christians were well organized with LOVE JOY and PEACE can't be found today except amongst Jehovah's Witnesses! smiley
OP asked a question based on what is happening throughout the earth today as the so called Men Of God can't maintain a family of God fearing children, you have no shame to run for cover but instead you want to accuse the one and only organization that's maintaining God fearing children throughout the earth.
Stop deceiving yourself Mr Emusan, go and tell people in your neighbourhood that Jehovah's Witnesses children aren't fine examples of God fearing children and see how sincere people will look at you.
Then you'll know whether it's i who left my former Religion to join JWs due to their God fearing that's a hypocrite or you that's hitting your head on the walls of falsehood! cheesy
Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by Nobody: 6:15am On Jun 26, 2020
Oga Emusan! undecided undecided undecided
See the time you posted this.
Are you sure you're still OK? embarassed embarassed embarassed
Haba! 2am due to hatred for the truth, you can't even sleep!
Only God can deliver you o! embarassed embarassed embarassed
Emusan:

Yet
Adultery
Child Abuse
Divorce
Still reign in your demonic organization.
Keep lying for your demonic god!
Hypocrite!

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Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by petra1(m): 6:25am On Jun 26, 2020
Maximus69:
Kumuyi turned his female followers into mourners as they will dress like old women.
Most of his gullible members and majority believed his deceit, but when his own son got married Kumuyi's daughter in-law ignored all the things imposed on his church members.
A member once argued that Mr Kumuyi never attended the wedding but pictures don't lie nah! smiley

They could have relaxed their law probably olaadegbu can explain better to you
Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by petra1(m): 6:29am On Jun 26, 2020
Maximus69:

Jesus Christ had junior brothers but none of them was chosen as Apostle, the only two out of about six siblings he had accepted Christianity.

Are you aware that two of jesus brothers became ministers . And james jesus younger brother became an apostle not only that, he also took over headship among the other apostles .
Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by Nobody: 6:43am On Jun 26, 2020
petra1:


Are you aware that two of jesus brothers became ministers . And james jesus younger brother became an apostle not only that, he also took over headship among the other apostles .

That's not true Sir!

There were two Apostles bearing the name "James" none was Jesus' sibling! Matthew 10:2-4

Before Jesus' death none of his siblings became a Christian, it was after his death that James and Jude accepted Christianity so you erred there Sir, there were three followers of Jesus named "James" two were his Apostles but the third who happens to be his junior brother became a Christian after Jesus has ascended to heaven! smiley
Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by Nobody: 6:51am On Jun 26, 2020
petra1:


They could have relaxed their law probably olaadegbu can explain better to you
Kumuyi is a thief!
He wanted to make everything his own but he can't be smarter than his shadow.
He made those rules just to deceive people that his group is holier than others, of course his children knows better nah.
They know he's just deceiving himself, God never made such stupid rules.
Rebecca was one of the holy women of ancient times, she wear bracelets and even nose ring! Genesis 24:30
So he can only deceive gullible people but not his own children who can see through his hypocritical appearance! smiley
Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by Emusan(m): 8:00am On Jun 26, 2020
Maximus69:
If you're not deceiving yourself how many of the bolded here in Nigeria that has been reported amongst JWs?

See this hypocrite!

You made a claim but when your lie and hypocrisy is exposed you'll change mouth.

This is your initial claim "...by then the holy spirit has not been released to monitor the worshipers so that selfishness and promiscuity can't be..."

Now that the Holy Spirit had been released, why do such acts still reign in your demonic organization?

Also, see the hypocrite now limiting it to Nigeria, are JWs not ONE all over the world again?

But you can use Nigeria Christiandom to judge the rest of the Christianity.

That's why most of my brothers call you "mumungus" Sir!

Even Jesus was accused of having evil spirit

The Jesus story you and i are hearing today differs completely from the reports that Pharisees,Saddusees,Scribes,Priests and others Jewish Rabbis wish to spread about him. That's why till today most Jews condemned the reports his followers penned down referred to as gospels.
If you're not really stupid, in your own locality here in Nigeria how many reports of Adultery, Child abuse and Divorce cases have you heard amongst God's people?

So Nigeria JWs and JWs in the rest of the world aren't the same again simply because JWs in the rest of the world are still doing what the old people were doing when "by then the holy spirit has not been released to monitor the worshipers so that selfishness and promiscuity can't be,..."

When you also know that even the deluded 8men GB reside in the very place where these acts are so prominent.

You choose to blur your senses to what is happening in your neighbourhood but you want to parade the mixed reports from far distant lands that you can't even verify!

People have testified about their encounter with JWs in Nigeria on this forum just as people have testified about other religions they came in contact with.

We have seen testimonies that commend you guys likewise testimonies that exposed the other side.

The only person his sense of humor is blur is the person who refuses to acknowledge that in every organisation there's always a bad eggs but using the bad eggs to judge the rest and when the table is turned shift blame on the bad eggs

If not for Jehovah's Witnesses the Bible will always remain a myth because all the reports of how the Christians were well organized with LOVE JOY and PEACE can't be found today except amongst Jehovah's Witnesses! smiley

Says the deluded JWs who forgot that Billions still belief in the Bible.

I can see the LOVE, JOY and Peace indeed

No wonder my friend's mum (both Father & mother are all JWs) refused her to marry a witness Guy (both father and mother are JWs too)....so much for the self parade LOVE


OP asked a question based on what is happening throughout the earth today as the so called Men Of God can't maintain a family of God fearing children, you have no shame to run for cover but instead you want to accuse the one and only organization that's maintaining God fearing children throughout the earth.


People have answered OP by even cited example from the scripture, do you agree with them? No! but you simply inject your delusions into it forgotten that there's a log of wood in your eyes while you're busy looking at the beam in someone's else eyes.


Hypocrite!

Stop deceiving yourself Mr Emusan, go and tell people in your neighbourhood that Jehovah's Witnesses children aren't fine examples of God fearing children and see how sincere people will look at you.

You can do that about another Christian body


Then you'll know whether it's i who left my former Religion to join JWs due to their God fearing that's a hypocrite or you that's hitting your head on the walls of falsehood! cheesy

God fearing
Yet

Child Abuse
Adultery
Divorce

Even a JWs family can stop their daughter to marry to another JWs...

You can keep deceiving yourself and your like with fake love, joy and peace.

No-one can give you peace except Jesus Christ!

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