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Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by Dahreformer2666: 6:15pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
I'm currently using a camry muscle 09 but intended to change car to either hyundai sonata 12/13 , i want to be sure if i'm making a good choice ? |
Re: Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by MightySparrow: 6:21pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
Dahreformer2666:As long as technical people who can manage it is at hand no problem but if you are not living in a place where you cannot service it easily in case of any problem you could be courting trouble. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by Dahreformer2666: 6:23pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
MightySparrow: I stay in ilorin and I see people using the car |
Re: Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by MightySparrow: 6:35pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
Dahreformer2666:Fine, I don't know what goes on in Ilorin, I will advise you ask one or two persons there how they service theirs. I live in Ekiti and there is brand of the car now having problem and could not be solved. The mechanic handling it contacted the Hyundai office in Lagos just to be given a code to be used for brain box and to no avail. I don't say every user has same experience but carefully consider your options. |
Re: Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by Inception(m): 7:11pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
MightySparrow: Let him contact me. |
Re: Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by Blacklaurel: 10:05pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
Going by the user's review I saw online it's a nice vehicle, nice exterior and interior set up. However, the engine might suddenly pack up on you on your way to buy bread from the next street. The airbags also appear to just pop up at the slightest opportunity most of them on copart with just bumper damage already have their airbags deployed. 1 Like |
Re: Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by chukel(m): 10:35pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
Blacklaurel:it's the Gdi engine. Gasoline direct injection engines. The injectors are designed to spray fuel at high pressure directly into the cylinders. This results in a phenomenon they called the Low speed pre ignition LSPI which knocks the engine. For this, they recommended API SN plus grade of oil for these engines to make them last longer. So if you have that GDI engine, use oil with that specification. This is the reason BMW now uses Pennzoil as their official oil cos it meets that grade. 1 Like |
Re: Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by HeavenlyBang(m): 12:38am On Jul 07, 2020 |
Much better off with a 2013 Accord, tbh. Even a 2009 TL is better. 4 Likes |
Re: Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by olumzzz(m): 5:58am On Jul 07, 2020 |
Dahreformer2666:As explained above, that GDI can die without notice. If you like Hyundai, you can get the Elantra instead. It uses the regular Port Fuel Injection engines. |
Re: Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by Inception(m): 12:47pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
HeavenlyBang: The 2013 Accord, uses the same GDI technology. Infact, the 2013 accord 2.4 'Earth dreams' engine has had reports of excessive oil consumption after a certain mileage, But, It is better in quality than the Y20 Hyundai Sonata equipped with the GDI engine. It is quite rare to see a 2011-2014 Hyundai sonata(with the 2.4 GDI and 2.0 TGDI) to go past 150,000 miles without catastrophic engine failure. There was a massive recall of vehicles using such engines (Christened the THETA II GDI )due to the following issues: 1. Excessive oil consumption, due to chronic carbonization of its piston oil control rings. the said piston rings were too small imho. 2. distribution of metallic particles all around the engine block due to improper cleaning /deburring of engine crankshaft and engine block( this was their 'excuse' when issuing the recall). this would ultimately lead to excessive crankshaft bearing wear , usually at the no. 1 piston, and engine seizure. 3. Very weak oil pump/ Balance shaft assembly design 4. In some rare cases, ovalization of piston walls leading to piston slap. However this is usually common in cold/ temperate ( or salt belt ) regions. This issue is quite common in the 1.8 NU engines of the Elantra (2011-2014) used in similar regions due to lack of piston oil jets in the short block. Aside the engine and other minor nuances ( airbag modules in early production models, weak rubber steering couplers etc) the car is quite a sweet car to own and drive. I i currently have a seized 2.4 and i intend to rebuild it very soon ( to factory specifications , of course) and keep as a spare engine. it would be shared here. 1 Like |
Re: Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by HeavenlyBang(m): 12:52pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Inception: I...didn't know that. Either way, I haven't heard of any major issues with the K24 on the Accord. Like you said, similar technology but much better engineering. Plus the Accord is just all-around a better car anyway. 2 Likes |
Re: Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by Inception(m): 12:54pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
chukel: Not necessarily. The major gripe of GDI engines is the buildup of carbon, particularity on the intake valves and pistons which would cause the condition you stated above. This, coupled with poor maintenance would easily coke up piston oil control rings and lead to excessive oil consumption( engine misfire, in some cases) Sometimes consumption can get so bad (imagine 1 quart for every 200 miles) that the owner may not know he is dangerously low on oil till the oil light comes on. Using API SN is a very good decision ( although the car in question was designed to run with SM, but SN is backward compatible up to SL) |
Re: Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by Inception(m): 12:59pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
HeavenlyBang: The K24 is a proven engine. and yes, the in- class accord is a much better car. Funny thing is the short block in the Hyundai is shared with some models of Mitsubishi ( can remember actual models). |
Re: Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by chukel(m): 1:02pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Inception:I will add a picture to better explain LSPI and the role of oil. A car designed to run on SM cannot be compatible with SL. It can be compatible with SN and all other specifications with alphabet above or after M but not below or before M. The latest grade of oil is now SP.
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Re: Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by Inception(m): 1:04pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
chukel: It seems you did not get me in my last paragraph. We are both saying the same thing. i said using SN is a wise decision to prevent LSPI . Hyundai's Engines of the Y20 sonata were designed to use SM. SN is backwards compatible up to SL, meaning that SN can be used for SM and SL compatible ICEs. And i defined engine knock before commenting as rod knock, and not as that described (my bad) Meanwhile, The 2nd point of your extract explains why engine oils in GDI engines go black very soon after a fresh oil change |
Re: Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by chukel(m): 1:10pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Inception:ok. I get you. But the SN plus was formulated specifically for that LSPI phenomenon. Sorry, I no pass English. E de worry me atimes. Btw, how did ur transmission issue end. |
Re: Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by Inception(m): 1:14pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
chukel: I dumped her... She became a demanding wife who wanted to destroy my life |
Re: Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by chukel(m): 1:20pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Inception:Jesu. Why are you disappointing me. Can I come and marry her? Habaa. You want rebuild the transmission? Just get a replacement and enjoy the car. |
Re: Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by Inception(m): 1:51pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
chukel: Naa.. lol. I sold the car.Replacing the transmission was just not worth it for the amount already invested. |
Re: Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by chukel(m): 1:56pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Inception:lol. And you sold a car without transmission at a price worth it? Well, it's in the past. |
Re: Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by Chapter1vs6(m): 9:53am On Nov 01, 2020 |
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Re: Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by Chapter1vs6(m): 11:14am On Nov 01, 2020 |
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Re: Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by Chapter1vs6(m): 11:34am On Nov 01, 2020 |
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Re: Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by Dahreformer2666: 12:45pm On Nov 01, 2020 |
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Re: Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by HeavenlyBang(m): 1:34pm On Nov 01, 2020 |
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Re: Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by kingreign(m): 2:21pm On Nov 01, 2020 |
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Re: Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by Dahreformer2666: 4:32pm On Nov 01, 2020 |
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Re: Is Hyundai Sonata 2012 -2012 Toks A Good Car To Purchase by Chapter1vs6(m): 6:25pm On Nov 01, 2020 |
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