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Re: Raw Truth About The South East And 2023 by Nobody: 8:06am On Jul 09, 2020 |
OfoIgbo: Like ironsi didn't rule the nation abi Like Azikwe didn't rule too |
Re: Raw Truth About The South East And 2023 by West1side: 8:40am On Jul 09, 2020 |
I beg to disagree go NL politics section n check how Pachukwuddie77 n his fools have been opening thread on Tinubu n come back to correct your comment on how irrelevant n insignificant the SE is compare to just a single man. ALCOHOLKILLS: 1 Like |
Re: Raw Truth About The South East And 2023 by West1side: 8:47am On Jul 09, 2020 |
OfoIgbo:Bode George n FFK are supporting igbo 2023 Presidential ambition what more do you nerd. |
Re: Raw Truth About The South East And 2023 by West1side: 8:49am On Jul 09, 2020 |
Mightyhaiz:If yiu can't pay the price head to hellfire. |
Re: Raw Truth About The South East And 2023 by OfoIgbo: 9:05am On Jul 09, 2020 |
Azikiwe did not rule. He did not appoint a single minister. He didn't have executive powers. That belonged to Balewa Ironsi was the only Igbo that held the country's executive powers. He only presided for six months. So really Igbos have only held the executive power for six months and that was in the 1960s While Yorubas have held the executive powers for many years and as late as in the 2000s 1 Like |
Re: Raw Truth About The South East And 2023 by oyatz(m): 10:38am On Jul 09, 2020 |
Apart from claims and demands, Igbos will still need to CONTEST for the Primaries and general election. It will be very naive to think that ONLY Igbo candidates will participate in the Primaries and the general election. It has NEVER happened that only members of one tribe/Geopolitical zone participate in the presidential primaries and main election. OfoIgbo: |
Re: Raw Truth About The South East And 2023 by oyatz(m): 10:45am On Jul 09, 2020 |
The topic is not about Yoruba presidency. Yoruba Politicians will surely contest for the presidency. God alone will determine who ever becomes the president. Nobody is teaching Igbo or any tribe how to play politics. The PDP leaders in the S/East warning Suswan about the zoning of the PDP ticket to the North are NOT Yorubas. DiagnoPolitics: |
Re: Raw Truth About The South East And 2023 by OfoIgbo: 11:58am On Jul 09, 2020 |
oyatz: Igbos understand the point you are making, which is why we are saying that, if SWners participate in the primaries, then northerners should also participate. It is fairer that way. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Raw Truth About The South East And 2023 by oyatz(m): 12:29pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
Whether Northerners participate or not (Of course, Atiku will participate.You can take that to the bank), S/West policiticians should and will contest the 2023 elections. It's the right thing to do. So many things need to happen to improve our democratic culture. The myths that a Southern candidate can not defeat a Northern candidate or that an Igbo candidate can not win an election against other Nigerians are nothing but just pure myths. Certain events like it's playing out now will burst some of these myths. As we continue in the democratic journey ,other myths will be bursted along the line. OfoIgbo: |
Re: Raw Truth About The South East And 2023 by OfoIgbo: 2:16pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
oyatz: That was exactly what the SE/SS alliance tried to do in 2015, but Yorubas decided to support Fulanis. I don't think the SE/SS alliance will want to dispel that myth, with a SW presidential candidate in 2023. As you also know, any election is a game of numbers. Blocs reach agreements to increase their votes. Abiola period is not like 2023. Abiola came up when the SS and Anambra were willing to support his presidential bid. This time around, I am not sure Tinubu's people have the confidence of the SS or the SE, and I doubt his team has the support of the middle belt, so it will be a steeper mountain to climb this time around. As things stand now, Tinubu may only be able to rely on SW votes. Anywhere outside the SW is a no-go area for him 2 Likes |
Re: Raw Truth About The South East And 2023 by raumdeuter: 4:06pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
OfoIgbo: What you quoted is the 1999 PDP primaries and point to the Northerner that contested for it |
Re: Raw Truth About The South East And 2023 by adekolaelect(m): 4:55pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
rdokoye:Talking as if Igbo's are the peace makers in Nigeria .It is better to know the bitter truth ; Igbo's can not mere or make the existence of the country (Nigeria)
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Re: Raw Truth About The South East And 2023 by rummmy: 5:09pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
blasted12:your own oga was slaughtered by abacus and his remains was burnt to ashes and you did nothing. |
Re: Raw Truth About The South East And 2023 by tamdun: 5:13pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
DiagnoPolitics:Igbo have won none 1 Like |
Re: Raw Truth About The South East And 2023 by tamdun: 5:15pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
Mightyhaiz:North kill 3 million of ur people yet ojukwu still campaign for shagari a northerner. 1 Like |
Re: Raw Truth About The South East And 2023 by tamdun: 5:24pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
OfoIgbo:U always talk about 2015 but forget about 2011 when Yoruba people voted massively for pdp, hope u can still remember that year? Now tell me how did Jonathan repay us? He even called our leaders rascals, no, forget about what he did for southwest, tell Jonathan's achievements in ur southeast, is there anything at all? U can continue supporting pdp but stop blaming yoruba for southern unity, it was ur Lord and saviour(Jonathan) that scattered every thing by ignoring and insulting yoruba people |
Re: Raw Truth About The South East And 2023 by OfoIgbo: 6:11pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
tamdun: First of all, Yorubas did not MASSIVELY vote for GEJ. In fact, one of the Yoruba states voted for Ribadu, and the only reason Lagos voted GEJ then was because of the over 97% heavy Igbo voting for GEJ in Lagos. Lagos only gave GEJ 50% of votes. If Igbo votes were not involved, Lagos would have favoured Ribadu by about 80%. The other Yoruba states only gave GEJ numbers in the 50 -60s. Tinubu in fact only started supporting GEJ maybe about a week before the election when he figured GEJ was gonna win that election. You think I have forgotten this fact. GEJ worked hard to make a Yoruba person the speaker of of the House of Representatives, but northerners in cahoots with Yorubas blocked that, so you cannot blame GEJ for viewing you with a little suspicion especially as you all played a part in denying the SW the number 4 position of the country. GEJ helped enhance the southern unity, but Yorubas are so perpetually and extremely jealous of any southern group that appears to be enjoying any fortune, which is why the SW had to work tooth and nail, to thwart GEJ's 2015 ambition. 2023 is another year. We will all see what will happen |
Re: Raw Truth About The South East And 2023 by OfoIgbo: 6:12pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
raumdeuter: I don't even have to refer to 1999. In 2015, both a southern and a northern candidate contested for the presidency. Heaven did not fall. If Yorubas run for the 2023 office, I don't see why a northerner cannot vie for the same office |
Re: Raw Truth About The South East And 2023 by DiagnoPolitics: 6:40pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
oyatz:It is not God who determines who wins elections in Nigeria, It is the people with the numbers and you yoruba don't have it. Face the truth bro. |
Re: Raw Truth About The South East And 2023 by tamdun: 6:44pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
OfoIgbo:U see the problem is u will never accept blame even when u are wrong, so 5 state out of 6 isn't massive? How many state did Jonathan win in south East? About large number of Igbo in Lagos, why can't they repeat same in 2015? or did they move out of Lagos ni, despite Jonathan being the incumbent president he could not convince the Igbos in Lagos to vote for him massively like they did in 2011? Point of correction, Tinubu didn't support Jonathan, Jonathan went to Lagos to make a deal with Tinubu. Lastly Jonathan has no power when it comes to speaker of house of representatives,he cannot even vote and I don't think he did anything to make a south westerner a speaker, imagine Jonathan could not convince pdp (with majority in the house) but he expect his opponents(acn) to listen to him, pdp has d majority but couldn't provide speaker of their choice. Jonathan did not try to unite anything, he said south west elders are rascals and the Igbos are his pillar,is that how to unite people 2 Likes |
Re: Raw Truth About The South East And 2023 by oyatz(m): 7:43pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
You seems fixated on Tinubu and 2023 that you don't see the bigger picture. Tinubu is a Nigerian citizen who has paid his dues in the political evolution of Nigeria , like many other actors. The emergence of the APC in 2013 is very important for at least three reasons; *Political maturity of our politicians to enter into a political merger. * The possibility that opposition parties can defeat an incumbent party, a rare feat in African democracies. * The emergence of two strong political parties which will not make any one of them to take the electorates for granted because of the awareness that a strong alternative is waiting. If it's part of his destiny to be president, he will become the President and if it's not, he won't. However, the wheels of progress must continue to roll. The Fulanis are a powerful political force in Nigeria and will have great impact on the politics of Nigeria. However it's blatant lie that they must always win. They, like other political forces in Nigeria may win sometimes and may not win other times. As we continue to mature in this democratic process, certain things and the implications will become clearer to many of us. OfoIgbo: |
Re: Raw Truth About The South East And 2023 by Natziz: 9:36pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
What is wrong with this people, is this how you guys champion "ONE NIGERIA". Zone it to the east, No west ,No North, like seriously, and this is a country that wants to be developed,when the educated ones are behaving like the illiterates. I mean who cares who is in the seat, is it not as long as he does what is right in course of governing his country men. Abeg Nigerian youths make ona get shame, because you guys are irritating and the country will never change because of how we reason. |
Re: Raw Truth About The South East And 2023 by rdokoye: 3:40am On Jul 19, 2020 |
adekolaelect: Who said anything about peace? The Igbo political class are still optimistic of a Nigerian presidency, or a more equitable Nigeria. If Nigeria denies the Igbo political class the presidency, at this time in its junction, they'll lose the their support. They are the only stumbling block, in Igbos quest for a new nation. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Raw Truth About The South East And 2023 by adekolaelect(m): 7:37am On Jul 19, 2020 |
rdokoye:that is the regular Melody since 1999 the volume was increased in 214/215 election till now nothing happens.
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Re: Raw Truth About The South East And 2023 by ThatFairGuy: 7:45am On Jul 19, 2020 |
Igbochief001:You've never disappoint. Always chestbeating |
Re: Raw Truth About The South East And 2023 by allcomage: 11:02pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
I have been friends with Igbo for a long time that I even married Igbo lady. I observed that The Igbo spirit has left Nigeria not because of lack of presidency but lack of development. 95% of Igbo care less now about presidency you guys talk about because it's only the Igbo due to their high iq that observed that Nigeria has collapsed irredeemably and it can only get worst. Watch out,Igbo will not even vote in subsequent elections(vote aparty will be highest ).They want to observe on the side line and waiting for an opportunity to make a life and generation changing move. Their target is very high now. I love igbo and i believe without Igbo at helms of affairs, Nigeria will go down faster. The succeses of obj and Gej were as a result of Igbo inputs. Buhari has turned a fledging 6.5% economic growth into irreparable recession without Igbo. |
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