OfoIgbo:


People like Jim Nwobodo and Orji Uzor Kali a d others supported OBJ, and convinced other non Yoruba PDP people to select OBJ, so that the SW will be pacified. That was what happened.

And as a matter of fact, in 1999, Igbos had a better claim to the presidency than Yorubas as OBJ and Shonekan had already ruled the nation.

Like ironsi didn't rule the nation abi

Like Azikwe didn't rule too

I beg to disagree go NL politics section n check how Pachukwuddie77 n his fools have been opening thread on Tinubu n come back to correct your comment on how irrelevant n insignificant the SE is compare to just a single man.

ALCOHOLKILLS:
south east is the new celebrity in Nigeria, hardly a day passes without you seeing people talking about the Igbos indeed if you're nobody, no one is gonna talk about you.... to our zombie brothers we have proven to you many times that our political leaders do not dictate for us like tunubu do for his people....... You all can remember how we disgrace ekeweremadu and even threatened to do more, we do not care who rules over this failed country. You all bragging about ruling this country, is your region more developed than the other region The only thing we the south east youths care about is restructure or we go our sperate ways. But if you think a Yoruba man will rule by 2023, then we'll rather vote for Fulani man to continue ruling us, all us to suffer am, let's see who's gonna cry more

OfoIgbo:


People like Jim Nwobodo and Orji Uzor Kali a d others supported OBJ, and convinced other non Yoruba PDP people to select OBJ, so that the SW will be pacified. That was what happened.

And as a matter of fact, in 1999, Igbos had a better claim to the presidency than Yorubas as OBJ and Shonekan had already ruled the nation.

Bode George n FFK are supporting igbo 2023 Presidential ambition what more do you nerd.

Mightyhaiz:
You have no shame...stupidity and servitude has smothered whatever sense of shame u have... So u allowed north to humiliate and slaughter your prominent son so that u can become president in your own so called country.. That is the criteria u we're considered to rule in your own country..
okpe

If yiu can't pay the price head to hellfire.

Like ironsi didn't rule the nation abi

Like Azikwe didn't rule too

Azikiwe did not rule. He did not appoint a single minister. He didn't have executive powers. That belonged to Balewa

Ironsi was the only Igbo that held the country's executive powers. He only presided for six months. So really Igbos have only held the executive power for six months and that was in the 1960s

While Yorubas have held the executive powers for many years and as late as in the 2000s

Apart from claims and demands, Igbos will still need to CONTEST for the Primaries and general election.

It will be very naive to think that ONLY Igbo candidates will participate in the Primaries and the general election.




It has NEVER happened that only members of one tribe/Geopolitical zone participate in the presidential primaries and main election.

OfoIgbo:


People like Jim Nwobodo and Orji Uzor Kali a d others supported OBJ, and convinced other non Yoruba PDP people to select OBJ, so that the SW will be pacified. That was what happened.

And as a matter of fact, in 1999, Igbos had a better claim to the presidency than Yorubas as OBJ and Shonekan had already ruled the nation.

The topic is not about Yoruba presidency. Yoruba Politicians will surely contest for the presidency. God alone will determine who ever becomes the president.

Nobody is teaching Igbo or any tribe how to play politics. The PDP leaders in the S/East warning Suswan about the zoning of the PDP ticket to the North are NOT Yorubas.

DiagnoPolitics:
yorubas who have lost more than 80% of every national elections they ever voted in since 1959 wants to teach others how to play politics.

The abookis are pulling the rug under their legs but because they want to save face, they find it convenient to insult the Igbos and divert away from their shame. Of course we Igbos will keep punching their empty skulls online till they grab some common sense. Hopeless noise making barrels who only know how to shout "arrhhhhhhh!" "emiiiiii" like urchins

2023 is not far and a yoruba man will NOT be president, that's what matters. .

oyatz:
Apart from claims and demands, Igbos will still need to CONTEST for the Primaries and general election.

It will be very naive to think that ONLY Igbo candidates will participate in the Primaries and the general election.




It has NEVER happened that only members of one tribe/Geopolitical zone participate in the presidential primaries and main election.

Igbos understand the point you are making, which is why we are saying that, if SWners participate in the primaries, then northerners should also participate. It is fairer that way.

Whether Northerners participate or not (Of course, Atiku will participate.You can take that to the bank), S/West policiticians should and will contest the 2023 elections.

It's the right thing to do.





So many things need to happen to improve our democratic culture.

The myths that a Southern candidate can not defeat a Northern candidate or that an Igbo candidate can not win an election against other Nigerians are nothing but just pure myths.

Certain events like it's playing out now will burst some of these myths.

As we continue in the democratic journey ,other myths will be bursted along the line.

OfoIgbo:


Igbos understand the point you are making, which is why we are saying that, if SWners participate in the primaries, then northerners should also participate. It is fairer that way.

oyatz:
Whether Northerners participate or not (Of course, Atiku will participate.You can take that to the bank), S/West policiticians should and will contest the 2023 elections.

It's the right thing to do.





So many things need to happen to improve our democratic culture.

The myths that a Southern candidate can not defeat a Northern candidate or that an Igbo candidate can not win an election against other Nigerians are nothing but just pure myths.

Certain events like it's playing out now will burst some of these myths.

As we continue in the democratic journey ,other myths will be bursted along the line.

That was exactly what the SE/SS alliance tried to do in 2015, but Yorubas decided to support Fulanis.

I don't think the SE/SS alliance will want to dispel that myth, with a SW presidential candidate in 2023.

As you also know, any election is a game of numbers. Blocs reach agreements to increase their votes. Abiola period is not like 2023. Abiola came up when the SS and Anambra were willing to support his presidential bid. This time around, I am not sure Tinubu's people have the confidence of the SS or the SE, and I doubt his team has the support of the middle belt, so it will be a steeper mountain to climb this time around.

As things stand now, Tinubu may only be able to rely on SW votes. Anywhere outside the SW is a no-go area for him

OfoIgbo:


Ekwueme also competed in the 1999 PDP primaries. Ekwueme did not compete in the 1999 general elections.

So if you Yorubas are bringing up Ekwueme issue, as a reason for Yorubas to also compete in the 2023 elections, then you must also agree that northerners can also compete in the same 2023 general elections, after all, a northerner competed alongside Ekwueme in the 1999 PDP primaries

What you quoted is the 1999 PDP primaries and point to the Northerner that contested for it

rdokoye:
SE presidency is not negotiable. The reality is, that the Igbo political class is the only stumbling block delaying secession. Thus, if a SE doesn't emerge as president in the next election, non-Igbo people will lose the only bulwark in the SE holding Nigeria together.

Talking as if Igbo's are the peace makers in Nigeria .It is better to know the bitter truth ; Igbo's can not mere or make the existence of the country (Nigeria)

blasted12:
To Can you remember the last time the python came out? Your Oga ran to far away Isreal

your own oga was slaughtered by abacus and his remains was burnt to ashes and you did nothing.

DiagnoPolitics:
yorubas who have lost more than 80% of every national elections they ever voted in since 1959 wants to teach others how to play politics.

The abookis are pulling the rug under their legs but because they want to save face, they find it convenient to insult the Igbos and divert away from their shame. Of course we Igbos will keep punching their empty skulls online till they grab some common sense. Hopeless noise making barrels who only know how to shout "arrhhhhhhh!" "emiiiiii" like urchins

2023 is not far and a yoruba man will NOT be president, that's what matters. .

Igbo have won none

Mightyhaiz:
You have no shame...stupidity and servitude has smothered whatever sense of shame u have... So u allowed north to humiliate and slaughter your prominent son so that u can become president in your own so called country.. That is the criteria u we're considered to rule in your own country..


okpe

North kill 3 million of ur people yet ojukwu still campaign for shagari a northerner.

OfoIgbo:


That was exactly what the SE/SS alliance tried to do in 2015, but Yorubas decided to support Fulanis.

I don't think the SE/SS alliance will want to dispel that myth, with a SW presidential candidate in 2023.

As you also know, any election is a game of numbers. Blocs reach agreements to increase their votes. Abiola period is not like 2023. Abiola came up when the SS and Anambra were willing to support his presidential bid. This time around, I am not sure Tinubu's people have the confidence of the SS or the SE, and I doubt his team has the support of the middle belt, so it will be a steeper mountain to climb this time around.

As things stand now, Tinubu may only be able to rely on SW votes. Anywhere outside the SW is a no-go area for him

U always talk about 2015 but forget about 2011 when Yoruba people voted massively for pdp, hope u can still remember that year? Now tell me how did Jonathan repay us? He even called our leaders rascals, no, forget about what he did for southwest, tell Jonathan's achievements in ur southeast, is there anything at all?
U can continue supporting pdp but stop blaming yoruba for southern unity, it was ur Lord and saviour(Jonathan) that scattered every thing by ignoring and insulting yoruba people

tamdun:

U always talk about 2015 but forget about 2011 when Yoruba people voted massively for pdp, hope u can still remember that year? Now tell me how did Jonathan repay us? He even called our leaders rascals, no, forget about what he did for southwest, tell Jonathan's achievements in ur southeast, is there anything at all?
U can continue supporting pdp but stop blaming yoruba for southern unity, it was ur Lord and saviour(Jonathan) that scattered every thing by ignoring and insulting yoruba people

First of all, Yorubas did not MASSIVELY vote for GEJ. In fact, one of the Yoruba states voted for Ribadu, and the only reason Lagos voted GEJ then was because of the over 97% heavy Igbo voting for GEJ in Lagos. Lagos only gave GEJ 50% of votes. If Igbo votes were not involved, Lagos would have favoured Ribadu by about 80%.

The other Yoruba states only gave GEJ numbers in the 50 -60s.

Tinubu in fact only started supporting GEJ maybe about a week before the election when he figured GEJ was gonna win that election. You think I have forgotten this fact.

GEJ worked hard to make a Yoruba person the speaker of of the House of Representatives, but northerners in cahoots with Yorubas blocked that, so you cannot blame GEJ for viewing you with a little suspicion especially as you all played a part in denying the SW the number 4 position of the country.

GEJ helped enhance the southern unity, but Yorubas are so perpetually and extremely jealous of any southern group that appears to be enjoying any fortune, which is why the SW had to work tooth and nail, to thwart GEJ's 2015 ambition.

2023 is another year. We will all see what will happen

raumdeuter:


What you quoted is the 1999 PDP primaries and point to the Northerner that contested for it

I don't even have to refer to 1999.

In 2015, both a southern and a northern candidate contested for the presidency. Heaven did not fall.

If Yorubas run for the 2023 office, I don't see why a northerner cannot vie for the same office

oyatz:
The topic is not about Yoruba presidency. Yoruba Politicians will surely contest for the presidency. God alone will determine who ever becomes the president.

Nobody is teaching Igbo or any tribe how to play politics. The PDP leaders in the S/East warning Suswan about the zoning of the PDP ticket to the North are NOT Yorubas.

It is not God who determines who wins elections in Nigeria, It is the people with the numbers and you yoruba don't have it.
Face the truth bro.

OfoIgbo:


First of all, Yorubas did not MASSIVELY vote for GEJ. In fact, one of the Yoruba states voted for Ribadu, and the only reason Lagos voted GEJ then was because of the over 97% heavy Igbo voting for GEJ in Lagos. Lagos only gave GEJ 50% of votes. If Igbo votes were not involved, Lagos would have favoured Ribadu by about 80%.

The other Yoruba states only gave GEJ numbers in the 50 -60s.

Tinubu in fact only started supporting GEJ maybe about a week before the election when he figured GEJ was gonna win that election. You think I have forgotten this fact.

GEJ worked hard to make a Yoruba person the speaker of of the House of Representatives, but northerners in cahoots with Yorubas blocked that, so you cannot blame GEJ for viewing you with a little suspicion especially as you all played a part in denying the SW the number 4 position of the country.

GEJ helped enhance the southern unity, but Yorubas are so perpetually and extremely jealous of any southern group that appears to be enjoying any fortune, which is why the SW had to work tooth and nail, to thwart GEJ's 2015 ambition.

2023 is another year. We will all see what will happen

U see the problem is u will never accept blame even when u are wrong, so 5 state out of 6 isn't massive? How many state did Jonathan win in south East?
About large number of Igbo in Lagos, why can't they repeat same in 2015? or did they move out of Lagos ni, despite Jonathan being the incumbent president he could not convince the Igbos in Lagos to vote for him massively like they did in 2011?
Point of correction, Tinubu didn't support Jonathan, Jonathan went to Lagos to make a deal with Tinubu.
Lastly Jonathan has no power when it comes to speaker of house of representatives,he cannot even vote and I don't think he did anything to make a south westerner a speaker, imagine Jonathan could not convince pdp (with majority in the house) but he expect his opponents(acn) to listen to him, pdp has d majority but couldn't provide speaker of their choice.
Jonathan did not try to unite anything, he said south west elders are rascals and the Igbos are his pillar,is that how to unite people

You seems fixated on Tinubu and 2023 that you don't see the bigger picture.


Tinubu is a Nigerian citizen who has paid his dues in the political evolution of Nigeria , like many other actors.

The emergence of the APC in 2013 is very important for at least three reasons;
*Political maturity of our politicians to enter into a political merger.
* The possibility that opposition parties can defeat an incumbent party, a rare feat in African democracies.
* The emergence of two strong political parties which will not make any one of them to take the electorates for granted because of the awareness that a strong alternative is waiting.

If it's part of his destiny to be president, he will become the President and if it's not, he won't.

However, the wheels of progress must continue to roll.

The Fulanis are a powerful political force in Nigeria and will have great impact on the politics of Nigeria. However it's blatant lie that they must always win.

They, like other political forces in Nigeria may win sometimes and may not win other times.

As we continue to mature in this democratic process, certain things and the implications will become clearer to many of us.

OfoIgbo:


That was exactly what the SE/SS alliance tried to do in 2015, but Yorubas decided to support Fulanis.

I don't think the SE/SS alliance will want to dispel that myth, with a SW presidential candidate in 2023.

As you also know, any election is a game of numbers. Blocs reach agreements to increase their votes. Abiola period is not like 2023. Abiola came up when the SS and Anambra were willing to support his presidential bid. This time around, I am not sure Tinubu's people have the confidence of the SS or the SE, and I doubt his team has the support of the middle belt, so it will be a steeper mountain to climb this time around.

As things stand now, Tinubu may only be able to rely on SW votes. Anywhere outside the SW is a no-go area for him

What is wrong with this people, is this how you guys champion "ONE NIGERIA". Zone it to the east, No west ,No North, like seriously, and this is a country that wants to be developed,when the educated ones are behaving like the illiterates. I mean who cares who is in the seat, is it not as long as he does what is right in course of governing his country men.
Abeg Nigerian youths make ona get shame, because you guys are irritating and the country will never change because of how we reason.

adekolaelect:
Talking as if Igbo's are the peace makers in Nigeria .It is better to know the bitter truth ; Igbo's can not mere or make the existence of the country (Nigeria)

Who said anything about peace? The Igbo political class are still optimistic of a Nigerian presidency, or a more equitable Nigeria. If Nigeria denies the Igbo political class the presidency, at this time in its junction, they'll lose the their support. They are the only stumbling block, in Igbos quest for a new nation.

rdokoye:


Who said anything about peace? The Igbo political class are still optimistic of a Nigerian presidency, or a more equitable Nigeria. If Nigeria denies the Igbo political class the presidency, at this time in its junction, they'll lose the their support. They are the only stumbling block, in Igbos quest for a new nation.

that is the regular Melody since 1999 the volume was increased in 214/215 election till now nothing happens.

Igbochief001:
Some people who have less than 1% chance of getting APC ticket are working about south east and igbos

The silence from Igbo politicians is killing them , they have no idea what igbos are planing or who they are planning with ,

I feel your pain bro , igbos are about to teach yorubas politics 101 ....

When we are done u would be worthless in. APC ...your dare not leave APC even else tinubu would be in prison

We won't be as selfish as yorubas , we would carry yorubas along , make sure they get what's due to them , raise new Yoruba leaders ...unite yoruba ,igbos and south south , middle belt n northern minorities ....

You've never disappoint. Always chestbeating

I have been friends with Igbo for a long time that I even married Igbo lady. I observed that The Igbo spirit has left Nigeria not because of lack of presidency but lack of development. 95% of Igbo care less now about presidency you guys talk about because it's only the Igbo due to their high iq that observed that Nigeria has collapsed irredeemably and it can only get worst. Watch out,Igbo will not even vote in subsequent elections(vote aparty will be highest ).They want to observe on the side line and waiting for an opportunity to make a life and generation changing move. Their target is very high now. I love igbo and i believe without Igbo at helms of affairs, Nigeria will go down faster. The succeses of obj and Gej were as a result of Igbo inputs. Buhari has turned a fledging 6.5% economic growth into irreparable recession without Igbo.