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Re: 1,200 Yr Old Cross Found In Pakistan Implies Christianity Was There Before Islam by Janosky: 9:31pm On Sep 03, 2020
Emusan:


But Peter didn't die in his disbelieve, does he?

The Accolade and lying liar JWs

Mr LIENUS, Wetin concern Peter with your pagan contraption of cross?

Mr LIENUS dey DECEIVE himself
grin
Re: 1,200 Yr Old Cross Found In Pakistan Implies Christianity Was There Before Islam by Emusan(m): 9:58pm On Sep 03, 2020
Janosky:


Mr LIENUS, Wetin concern Peter with your pagan contraption of cross?

Mr LIENUS dey DECEIVE himself
grin

I know you're short of memory and it's because your brainwashing has passed beyond redemption.

You brought Peter into this by saying

Peter deny Jesus Christ three times, Bros, go and remove his name from the crown of life, Mr LIENUS

Only to ask in your next post

Mr LIENUS, Wetin concern Peter with your pagan contraption of cross?

Mr LIENUS dey DECEIVE himself

It will take more than 50 good resounding slaps to force sense into your deluded brain.
Re: 1,200 Yr Old Cross Found In Pakistan Implies Christianity Was There Before Islam by Nobody: 10:11pm On Sep 03, 2020
Emusan:


I know you're short of memory and it's because your brainwashing has passed beyond redemption.

You brought Peter into this by saying



Only to ask in your next post



It will take more than 50 good resounding slaps to force sense into your deluded brain.

Your ancestors did all that to our Master, Lord and King {Matthew 26:67} but today we are free to preach and teach due to freedom of speech expression and worship.

Ntor! wink
Re: 1,200 Yr Old Cross Found In Pakistan Implies Christianity Was There Before Islam by Janosky: 10:35pm On Sep 03, 2020
Emusan:


I know you're short of memory and it's because your brainwashing has passed beyond redemption.

You brought Peter into this by saying



Only to ask in your next post



It will take more than 50 good resounding slaps to force sense into your deluded brain.


Emusan:

1.Why would Jehovah allow someone who made mistakes part of His Son's heavenly call?

2.But Peter didn't die in his disbelieve, does he?


1. Peter made mistakes, Bros go and remove his name from the crown of life.

Bros, you done forgot your comment:
" But Peter didn't die in his disbelieve, does he?"



You believe in Cross,a pagan contraption.
You have ZERO evidence that Peter worshipped God with a Cross..

Therefore,the question is apt :
"Wetin concern Peter with the pagan contraption of the Cross ?.

Bros, if you never chop since morning, please cry for help, your brain no dey reason well.
A hungry man can slap someone without
being provoked
grin grin
Re: 1,200 Yr Old Cross Found In Pakistan Implies Christianity Was There Before Islam by Emusan(m): 8:27am On Sep 04, 2020
Janosky:

1. Peter made mistakes, Bros go and remove his name from the crown of life.

Bros, you done forgot your comment:
" But Peter didn't die in his disbelieve, does he?"

Yes! Peter didn't die in his disbelieve, does he?

That was the question for your lying liar mouth who tries to justify how Peter denied Jesus Christ three times with your pagan founder who died practicing idolatry.

So answer the dem question.

You believe in Cross,a pagan contraption.
You have ZERO evidence that Peter worshipped God with a Cross..

Delusional and brainwashed!

Who then says Peter worshipped God with a cross?

Therefore,the question is apt :
"Wetin concern Peter with the pagan contraption of the Cross ?.

Rather you're confused and lack simple comprehension.

But you brought Peter into the matter

So answer my question, did Peter die after denied Jesus Christ?

Bros, if you never chop since morning, please cry for help, your brain no dey reason well.
A hungry man can slap someone without
being provoked
grin grin

The accolade lying liar JWs.

When you always forget your brain in the Hall before coming to public place.
Re: 1,200 Yr Old Cross Found In Pakistan Implies Christianity Was There Before Islam by Bruno3000(m): 9:01am On Sep 04, 2020
remsonik:

Yes Christianity came long before Islam. The prophet Muhammad, was born in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, in 570 A.D. Muslims believe he was the final prophet sent by God to reveal their faith to mankind. Angel Gabriel visited Muhammad in 610 A.D. while he was meditating in a cave. The angel ordered Muhammad to recite the words of Allah.
How sure are u it was Gabriel dat talked to him? Don't u know demons can also communicate with humans? Any where Islam is practiced all u see is violence and terrorism. Me I don't trust that Mohammed o. Jesus remains Lord of all.

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Re: 1,200 Yr Old Cross Found In Pakistan Implies Christianity Was There Before Islam by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:25pm On Sep 05, 2020
OLAADEGBU:


The write-up below sums up what I have been trying to say.

When you look at the quran from a Christian standpoint, it seems something took Muhammad over to try and produce something similar to the Bible, with names of biblical characters in order to muddy up the water and bring about confusion on a grand scale.

A friend of mine, Dr Rockeybell Adatura, a former staunch Muslim now Christian, wrote several well researched books which give credence to this line of thought.

For instance in his book titled: The Quranic vs The Biblical Jesus, he wrote:

'The Jesus presented in the quran has a mother also named Mariam (Mary).
But this Mariam was the sister of Aaron, and was the daughter of Imran, and was entrusted to the care of Zakariya.

History tells us there was a Mary (or Mariam) in the Old Testament, more than one thousand six hundred years before the birth of Jesus Christ.
This Mary (or Mariam) was indeed the sister of Aaron in the book of Exodus.
And Aaron was the brother of Moses in the Old Testament.

Since Mariam lived about a thousand six hundred years before the Mariam or Mary of the New Testament, who was the mother of Jesus, we can then safely conclude that the Jesus mentioned in the Qu'ran is not the same Jesus presented in the New Testament.

Furthermore, the Mary of the New Testament was not given to Zakariya's care, as the Quranic Mary was.
The Zakariya in the Bible was the husband of Elizabeth the mother of John the Baptist.
This shows that the Quranic Jesus is a counterfeit of Jesus of the Bible.
Counterfeits have similarities of the genuine ones.
Only a careful examination will reveal the falsehood embedded in the similarities.

Thus a careful scrutiny of the facts presented in the quran and in the Bible, exposes the false Jesus of the quran.
This false Jesus of the quran is the one Paul the Apostle refers to as "another Jesus" and not the true Jesus.
The quran agrees to everything about Christ, which has nothing to do with the salvation of the muslim.

His miraculous birth.
Some miracles He performed.
But the crucial part to do with the salvation of mankind, the quran denied.
Things like the fact that He is the Son of God. The fact that He is also God.
The fact that He died on the cross to pay for our sins.
The fact that He rose on the third day.
All these were denied by the quran.

This is why we must always read the small print.
Praise God

Copied and edited.

Continued from the same writer

It is interesting that a lot of religions across the world, always try to use the Bible to authenticate their doctrinal positions, because they have no legs to stand on.

A good example of that is the Hindu religion.
I met two Hindu priests some years ago.
They quoted and twisted two passages from the Bible, in order to prove that reincarnation is real.
One of the scriptures they quoted is from the book of Malachi chapter 4, verse 5, which says, 'Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord'.
They now went on to quote from the book of Matthew chapter 11, verses 13 and 14, which says, 13 'For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias (Elijah), which was to come'.
They now said, you see, John the Baptist is Elijah reincarnated.
I now told them two things which blew their argument apart.
In fact, God cornered them.

1) I showed them from the book of Luke that Elijah did not reincarnate as John.
The book of Luke chapter 1 verse 17 says, 'And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias (Elijah), to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.'
You can see from that scripture that John the Baptist came in the spirit and power of Elijah, and not as Elijah.

Then my second response to them, was the sucker punch that destroyed the doctrine of reincarnation.
According to Hindu doctrine of reincarnation, when someone lived a good life in his previous life, he comes back as someone better in his next life.
So, I told them Elijah was such a great prophet that was taken back to heaven in a chariot of fire.
If reincarnation is true, then John the Baptist should come back higher than Elijah, and then go back in a better form than Elijah, maybe like Enoch who simply disappeared.
But John the Baptist was beheaded �

According to this presentation, the Hindu doctrine of reincarnation is dead!!!
Finally, there are two scriptures from the Bible I would like to share, prove there is nothing like reincarnation.
1) Ecclesiastes chapter 12, verses 6 and 7 which says, 6, Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern.
7, Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit return unto God who gave it.

And the second scripture is from the book of Hebrews chapter 9, verse 27, which concludes, 'And as it appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement.'
This should be another useful information in your armoury.

Praise the Lord. - Yemi Balogun.
Re: 1,200 Yr Old Cross Found In Pakistan Implies Christianity Was There Before Islam by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:14am On Nov 13, 2020
OLAADEGBU:
1,200-Year Old Cross Found In Pakistan Implies Christianity Was There 'Before Islam Came'
Michael Foust | Christian Headlines.com Contributor | Tuesday, July 14, 2020
University of Baltistan Skardu, 1,200 year old marble cross is found in Pakistan

Photo courtesy: ©University of Baltistan Skardu

A giant cross estimated to be at least 1,200 years old has been discovered in the mountains of Pakistan and could include hints of Christianity’s early presence there.

The marble rock cross, weighing three to four tons and spanning seven feet from top to bottom, was found by a team from the University of Baltistan, Skardu in the Himalayan mountains near Baltistan, according to Union of Catholic Asian News.

Researchers discussed the findings at a press conference in mid-June.

Bordered by Afghanistan, Iran, India and China, Pakistan is a majority Muslim country, with more than 96 percent of its citizens practicing Islam.

Caritas Pakistan, a Catholic organization, celebrated the find.

“It is indeed great news for all of us that an ancient cross was found in Skardu,” said Mansha Noor, executive director of Caritas Pakistan. “It shows that Christianity existed in this area and there must be a church and houses of Christians. There are currently no Christian families in that area, but they were once present.

“I request the authorities invite international historians to find out more about the accurate history of the cross.”

Christians in Pakistan frequently face persecution for their faith. Byzantine history expert Béatrice Caseau told Barnabus Fund the cross could be evidence that Middle East merchants brought the gospel to the region.

"Even if we lack the sources to know with certainty where they passed, we know that Christians from the Persian world, using the Syriac language, came to the Indus region between the fifth and eighth centuries, until the arrival of Islam,” Caseau said.

One Pakistani Christian leader told Barnabus Fund, “Praise the Lord, this makes me very joyful. It will be a great encouragement to Christians in Pakistan to show that our faith was here many, many generations ago, before Islam came. This is amazing news! I am looking forward to what the research outcome will reveal about Christianity in Pakistan.”

Source
Re: 1,200 Yr Old Cross Found In Pakistan Implies Christianity Was There Before Islam by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:34pm On Apr 16, 2022
1,200-Year Old Cross Found In Pakistan Implies Christianity Was There 'Before Islam Came'
Re: 1,200 Yr Old Cross Found In Pakistan Implies Christianity Was There Before Islam by mhmsadyq(m): 6:37pm On Apr 16, 2022
OLAADEGBU:
1,200-Year Old Cross Found In Pakistan Implies Christianity Was There 'Before Islam Came'

So?
Re: 1,200 Yr Old Cross Found In Pakistan Implies Christianity Was There Before Islam by Janosky: 6:46pm On Apr 16, 2022
OLAADEGBU:
1,200-Year Old Cross Found In Pakistan Implies Christianity Was There 'Before Islam Came'
The same Cross that pagans had used for many centuries before Christendom appropriated it.
grin cheesy
Re: 1,200 Yr Old Cross Found In Pakistan Implies Christianity Was There Before Islam by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:11pm On Apr 16, 2022
mhmsadyq:


So?

Pakistan is an Islamic country but this Cross proves that Christianity had flourished there before you arrived. Respect your hosts. cool
Re: 1,200 Yr Old Cross Found In Pakistan Implies Christianity Was There Before Islam by mhmsadyq(m): 7:23pm On Apr 16, 2022
OLAADEGBU:


Pakistan is an Islamic country but this Cross proves that Christianity had flourished there before you arrived. Respect your hosts. cool
Even the cross preceded Christianity.

There were Christians in Arabia before the Prophet of Islam.

[48:28]
"He is the One Who sent His Messenger (blessings and peace be upon him) with guidance and the Din (Religion) of truth to make it prevail over all other religions. And Allah is Sufficient as a witness (to the truthfulness and veracity of the Messenger [blessings and peace be upon him])."
Re: 1,200 Yr Old Cross Found In Pakistan Implies Christianity Was There Before Islam by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:40pm On Apr 16, 2022
mhmsadyq:


Even the cross preceded Christianity.

There were Christians in Arabia before the Prophet of Islam.

[48:28]
"He is the One Who sent His Messenger (blessings and peace be upon him) with guidance and the Din (Religion) of truth to make it prevail over all other religions. And Allah is Sufficient as a witness (to the truthfulness and veracity of the Messenger [blessings and peace be upon him])."

Christianity is not a religion and it only came about after Christ. It is true that death by crucifixion happened before Christianity but the use of the Crucifix as a symbol of Christianity proves that Jesus died for our sins on the Cross an event Islam denies ever happened. cool
Re: 1,200 Yr Old Cross Found In Pakistan Implies Christianity Was There Before Islam by mhmsadyq(m): 9:22pm On Apr 16, 2022
OLAADEGBU:


Christianity is not a religion and it only came about after Christ. It is true that death by crucifixion happened before Christianity but the use of the Crucifix as a symbol of Christianity proves that Jesus died for our sins on the Cross an event Islam denies ever happened.cool

Absolutely.
Re: 1,200 Yr Old Cross Found In Pakistan Implies Christianity Was There Before Islam by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:53pm On Apr 16, 2022
mhmsadyq:


Absolutely.

And you believe conspiracy theories over eyewitnesses account? undecided

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