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Re: FOR NIGERIANS: Is These Why Want To Travel Abroad? by Denew1(m): 10:30pm On Aug 01
DuBLINGreenb:


Word!!

You are a smart man.

Tribalism and religious intolerance are worse than racism

Imagine a Nigerian man wey done suffer proper Nigerian hardship and poverty, lived in uncompleted building, gone hungry for days, lived without electricity for months, trekked unimaginable distances to fetch water or buy fuel, carried various heavy loads from market or just any manual labour or even sold gala on express.

You forget that We were caned for not bringing hymn book to school and flogged with wood and horse whip or koboko for coming late or not doing assignment, we picked pin under sun for not bringing bible to school or reciting quran, knelt down on chippings with arms raise up and eyes closed and then received surprise strokes if cane from time to time for the general class punishment for making noise, lol

our skins were peeled our buttocks disfigured severally for very useless reasons, one time I was flogged till I couldn't walk I fell trying to run and became paralysed because our house key got lost and as the senior I was to take the most beating, Soldiers in NYSC camp drilled us with buckets of water because one of our room mate said "that one na soldier refering to another room mate who someone said was marching like a soldier" the soldier claimed he was referring to him the soldier and we sat on the floor at night while they water boarded us because to him we refused to sleep instead we were yabbing him.

Most of us here don forget e be like say we done lose concentration oh

With all these suffer we don see and experience how does a Nigerian go from that to Crying because one white boy throws a banana at him or calls him monkey when we dey insult ourselves daily let's even forget the normal tribal insults Afonja, flat head, aboki, militant, terrorist ets

even within the Igbos they know what they call mbaise people, ebonyi people who are Igbos too and so on. in Yoruba land they know what they call ibadan, ekiti people who are also yorubas and so on Hausas know what they call Fulani's and vice versa rivers people know what they call Ogoni people and Ikwerre people, we all know what minister of health thinks of Kogi people.

Even in our families useless boy, look at his head is normal we have normalised ewu, goat, cow, useless man, thunder fire you, Dan duru banka, god punish you and so on so why will monkey pain you? Nigeria has trained you enough

If you want you can even single handedly beat up 2 average white men together if you are sure you won't be deported and you are on clear standing with immigration you can beat them up they aren't as strong as the conductor you drag change with on a daily basis or the police man you open eye for.

Baba I will peel the banana and eat like Dani Alves did, I will just remember where I am coming from, all the suffering I have faced in Naija and smile as they make racist chants, which I will later use as part of my inspirational b.s story to get work or sympathy from the public.

You know that being a victim of racism/discrimination that is publicised automatically gives you a higher chance of getting a job or becoming an activist for any organisation near you look at Malala, rahaf Alqunun, and co. Just being victims gave them fame, job and small money

There is also one black girl I can't remember her name she went for an interview and the interviewer guy texted his boss you texted back "we don't want those type of people here" people donated cash for her and gave her a better higher paying job

I'm not saying racism is good oh but Nigeria should have thickened your skin by now and strengthened you.

How many Nigerians are victims of racism or police brutality abroad ? Nigerians are the highest earning and most educated demographics in USA, UK and other countries in Europe and even Africa.

The average Nigerian knows how to take advantage of the system abroad, knows how to behave and blend and endure and make the most of his situation as required in every case.

one time black americans were protesting that Nigerians are taking all the spots for black people in American universities esp the top universities remember the time Just last year every black medical doctor graduate from Harvard university was a Nigerian 46 out of 96 of the 27 awards Nigerians took 16.

I am sure you can pick any Nigerian off Niaraland send him or her abroad and they will compete and excel in any field of their choice they put their mind to

Forget racism when the time is right the racism will even favour you just position yourself well to take advantage of it that's all.
I didn't knew that you got my points more Clear.
Re: FOR NIGERIANS: Is These Why Want To Travel Abroad? by Denew1(m): 10:32pm On Aug 01
DuBLINGreenb:
To be honest you can earn 500,000usd or even 1million a month as a lawyer as a dentist as a banker as an accountant and so on abroad especially if you have worked 10 to 15 years in the company you will be made a partner

Silas Adekunle is the highest paid robotics engineer in the world I don't need to tell you that he is Nigerian nor do I need to tell you that he doesn't work in Nigeria he has been earning between 7.5 million and 10million us dollars yearly

The reason I only my focused on law is because that is my field but other fields pay even more than law

However, I can not decieve you or assure you that you will make 1m USD a month or 10m like Adekunle so that is why I used 10k and 5k ofcos people make less than that and are very comfortable but I used that figure because it appeals to me as someone who will love to build something back home in Africa and to me that figure is achievable and can also help you build school, house, or any other small or medium scale business I like back in Africa.

Chris rock once said he is neighbors with Jay z and some other people that he is one of the greatest comedians and jay z is one of the greatest rappers but their neighbours are ordinary people his own next door neighbor is a dentist he isn't the greatest dentist of all time just a regular dentist.
How did a dentist afford that place? he doesn't know, he finds it hard to believe a guy can make that much money from pulling teeth out of people's mouths

It is possible to make millions monthly like ogunlesi but It is not common so I will instead tell you that you can make the median and lowest salary, it is up to you to work your way up and God to butter your bread if you want more that's all

But I want you to know that people earn such outrageous salaries for lawyers look at what these law firms pay their lawyers Kirkland & Ellis, Latham & Watkins, Baker McKenzie, DLA Piper, skaddem, dentons Nigerians work in these law firms, there are over 200 law firms worldwide that pay their lawyers 500,000usd a month none is in west Africa, in skaddem first year associates make 200k per year every law firm I listed has that as the lowest paid others earn 250 to 300k as first year salary and 300k to 500k as 3rd year salary and you can guess the rest

in Japan the lowest starting salary for lawyers even if you graduate with pass is 100,000usd or 10million yen bug firms pay twice that amount but I know you have to give up your Nigerian citizenship to become Japanese and there aren't many Nigerians in Japan so I didnt mention Japan, you also need to speak a little Japanese.

Like I said other professionals like doctors earn more than lawyers

But let us even forget professionals Uber drivers in UK earn 300,000naira weekly for working 40hours a week, in USA they make 11.7milliin naira per year as Uber drivers you can use that as side hustle while you position yourself for better things it's just 40 hours a week which is less than a little less than 2 out of 7 days that is weekend hustle while you go do something else during week days.
Money must be made Abroad.
Re: FOR NIGERIANS: Is These Why Want To Travel Abroad? by SonofLincoln: 1:17am On Aug 02
MrBrownJay1:
if you think that Nigeria is the only country with issues then go ask any of the black innocent men (who died at the hands of bastard racist cops in the US), if they feel the same way as you do.
The guy got some very good points though. Not every black people in US dies at the hands of the rogue police officers. Infact, overwhelming majority of us are living a good life and taking care of our families without any hindrance from the Government. So get your facts right Mr Know it all.

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Re: FOR NIGERIANS: Is These Why Want To Travel Abroad? by Denew1(m): 8:09am On Aug 02
SonofLincoln:
The guy got some very good points though. Not every black people in US dies at the hands of the rogue police officers. Infact, overwhelming majority of us are living a good life and taking care of our families without any hindrance from the Government. So get your facts right Mr Know it all.
Easy Bro.
Re: FOR NIGERIANS: Is These Why Want To Travel Abroad? by Mancala: 2:37pm On Aug 02
pDudd:


Let me break it down.

Let's say you earn $100, 000 a year and you are taxed at a rate of 27%. That means you will be taxed $27000 and you will take home $73000.

But let's say out of that $73000, you paid tithes and offerings of $5000, paid mortgage and the interest on the mortgage is $10000. And then you donated to a few charities a sum of about $1000.

That is $5000 + $10000 + $1000 = $16000.

At the year end, when you are filing your taxes, the government will refund you all that $16,000. Tax free too.

You are refunded that amount because you "INVESTED" it in various things. You didn't sit down and eat it and clean mouth. It is refunded to you as "Tax returns" or "Tax refund".

That is why in Yankee, it is ok to pay your tithes and offerings without worrying what your pastor does with it because it will be refunded back to you by the government. The church or charity will give you a document to use for filing your taxes so you can get the money back. It is a clear open transparent system with no mago mago. Unlike Naija cry

For purposes of future reference; this statement is not entirely accurate: At the year end, when you are filing your taxes, the government will refund you all that $16,000. Tax free too.

This is not how the tax system works. You are blurring the lines between a tax deduction and a credit. All the items you mentioned are deductions which reduce your taxable income as opposed to a tax credit which directly reduces the amount you owe. In your example, assuming you qualify for $16k in deductions means that your taxable income is reduced by that amount.. 100 - 16 =84. Your tax liability is then calculated as 27% of 84k=22.68k. Your refund amount will then be the difference between the 27k you Initially paid and the recalculated liability of 22.68 which is $4.32k. Big difference between the 16k you mentioned and the $4K you will actually get.

For a single person earning above 100k, there are few credits you can qualify for. Credits usually start to kick in when you have children or are lower income. An example of a tax credit is the Mortgage Interest Credit which is intended to help lower-income people afford home ownership. If you qualify for the Mortgage Interest Credit, (paid per year, up to $2,000), your state or local Housing Finance Agency will issue a qualified Mortgage Credit Certificate (MCC) when you purchase your main home with a mortgage. This $2k is a direct reduction off your tax liability and your will get it back as a refund.

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Re: FOR NIGERIANS: Is These Why Want To Travel Abroad? by Nobody: 4:23pm On Aug 02
Mancala:


For purposes of future reference; this statement is not entirely accurate: At the year end, when you are filing your taxes, the government will refund you all that $16,000. Tax free too.

This is not how the tax system works. You are blurring the lines between a tax deduction and a credit. All the items you mentioned are deductions which reduce your taxable income as opposed to a tax credit which directly reduces the amount you owe. In your example, assuming you qualify for $16k in deductions means that your taxable income is reduced by that amount.. 100 - 16 =84. Your tax liability is then calculated as 27% of 84k=22.68k. Your refund amount will then be the difference between the 27k you Initially paid and the recalculated liability of 22.68 which is $4.32k. Big difference between the 16k you mentioned and the $4K you will actually get.

For a single person earning above 100k, there are few credits you can qualify for. Credits usually start to kick in when you have children or are lower income. An example of a tax credit is the Mortgage Interest Credit which is intended to help lower-income people afford home ownership. If you qualify for the Mortgage Interest Credit, (paid per year, up to $2,000), your state or local Housing Finance Agency will issue a qualified Mortgage Credit Certificate (MCC) when you purchase your main home with a mortgage. This $2k is a direct reduction off your tax liability and your will get it back as a refund.


You do realize that I was simplifying the taxation practice of the US right? undecided

I didn't talk about standard deduction and other deeper technical terms used in taxation. Your above statement just complexified (if that is a word) the whole thing.

I am not a tax expert so I just simplified the thing to the basics.

I have a question though. Is the mortgage tax credit still valid? I heard Trump removed it.

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Re: FOR NIGERIANS: Is These Why Want To Travel Abroad? by Mancala: 8:54pm On Aug 02
pDudd:


You do realize that I was simplifying the taxation practice of the US right? undecided

I didn't talk about standard deduction and other deeper technical terms used in taxation. Your above statement just complexified (if that is a word) the whole thing.

I am not a tax expert so I just simplified the thing to the basics.

I have a question though. Is the mortgage tax credit still valid? I heard Trump removed it.

The tax code is complex, no doubt about that. But those are some of the basics I described. You can't conflate deductions and credits.
The mortgage interest tax credit is still valid for 2019 If you were issued a valid mortgage credit certificate by a qualified state or local government agency. You would need to complete form 8396 along with your 1040 to claim the credit. But I have already said too much. The game is to be sold and not to be told. I'm spoiling market for tax professionals wink

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Re: FOR NIGERIANS: Is These Why Want To Travel Abroad? by Nobody: 9:30pm On Aug 02
Mancala:


The tax code is complex, no doubt about that. But those are some of the basics I described. You can't conflate deductions and credits.
The mortgage interest tax credit is still valid for 2019 If you were issued a valid mortgage credit certificate by a qualified state or local government agency. You would need to complete form 8396 along with your 1040 to claim the credit. But I have already said too much. The game is to be sold and not to be told. I'm spoiling market for tax professionals wink

My nigga. grin

Send me inbox. There get something set I wan discuss.
Re: FOR NIGERIANS: Is These Why Want To Travel Abroad? by Mancala: 11:53pm On Aug 02
pDudd:


My nigga. grin

Send me inbox. There get something set I wan discuss.

Sir,
Contrary to popular opinion in certain circles, the word you used to address me is not a term of endearment but a hurtful and derogatory term. I would appreciate that you not address me as such in the future.
Having said that, by general principle, I do not initiate or accept offline contact on this forum. I am not casting aspersions on this platform or any individuals on it, but it's a decision I made and it has worked well for me. Feel free to post any inquiries on here and I will respond within the limits of my abilities.
Re: FOR NIGERIANS: Is These Why Want To Travel Abroad? by MMotimo: 4:22am On Aug 03
Mancala:


You sir are not cut out for nor equipped for intellectual discourse. "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people" You pivot to attack my person rather than address issues at hand. This much I know. When folks start hurling insults at you rather than addressing the issues at hand, you know their minds are closed/ not capable of reason and there's no point in further engagement. I shall disengage myself as quickly as possible from this situation as I rest assured that savvy folks that laugh at your last post are laughing at you/ your exposed lack of decorum and certainly not laughing with you.

You should just ignore, Sir. That is often the best and only response to some of these Nland “conversations” that are going nowhere.

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