FarmTech:

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Why not drench the soil with a fungicide like Saaf or rodomil gold?

How much could I get those fungicide, Saaf and rodomil gold.. Which one works best

Olalekan4646:


How much could I get those fungicide, Saaf and rodomil gold.. Which one works best

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Saaf is about N1200 for 250g my area. I have not used rodomil gold but another one with the same content. N300 or so for 50g.
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Both are gud. But it is not good to use only one. U rotate them in turns so that those microbes will not get use to them.

FarmTech:

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Saaf is about N1200 for 250g my area. I have not used rodomil gold but another one with the same content. N300 or so for 50g.
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Both are gud. But it is not good to use only one. U rotate them in turns so that those microbes will not get use to them.

Owk thanks, have searched for the two fungicide here, no store seems to have it

Olalekan4646:


Owk thanks, have searched for the two fungicide here, no store seems to have it

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u can also ask farmers.

Yeah, am now able to get my hand on Saaf and zebshifungicide, so as to interchange the two so that those fungi dnt develop resistance to one if only one is used

About the progression of the apples from seed, the apple seedling clock 1 month old yesterday on 20th of September, they are a little bit grown from last update, i think they have a quick growth as from 2 months old upward, no mortalities recorded since last update and I have about 20 more that is just pipping up in the growing medium.

I'm really interested in this.

I love your desire OP.

That's impressive

don't be deceived I ve tried it years back they can't survive for six months.

Dnt be doing this op, we learn better wit pictures plz

Olalekan4646:
About the progression of the apples from seed, the apple seedling clock 1 month old yesterday on 20th of September, they are a little bit grown from last update, i think they have a quick growth as from 2 months old upward, no mortalities recorded since last update and I have about 20 more that is just pipping up in the growing medium.

Olalekan4646:
Yeah, am now able to get my hand on Saaf and zebshifungicide, so as to interchange the two so that those fungi dnt develop resistance to one if only one is used

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Those 2 fungicides have the same content, mancozeb, which is not effective in rainy days because it is a contact fungicide. U shud have bought redforce or others that contains copper and metalaxyl. u can then use it in rotation with saaf. Anyway, u can still manage these ones for now.

rufai1440:
don't be deceived I ve tried it years back they can't survive for six months.

Maybe you mismanaged them or you planted only one or two.. Growing apple from seed, 30% of them will only make it to teenage and maturity because most will have the problem of rootrot or damping off, and have done extensive research before embarking on this journey, Philippines and Nigeria has the same tropical climate, a guy has succesfuky germinate apples from seed, not one not two. Just search Benzone Kennedy on YouTube.

Am optimistic this apple seedling will make it to maturity, have loosed about 50% already to damping off, but some are still thriving well.
And it's when they reach 6 month to 8 month i can plant them outside with shading cloth for another 6 months, with that, they will be acclimated to our weather condition and continue to grow succesfully.
Once they reach a year old, they can't die anymore, even when they reach 6 months, they are not prone to rootrot and damping off again.
The only logistical problem is to make them fruit after 3-4 years of age.
But let's wait till then and see how we will go about faking the climatic condition for the apple to fruit

FarmTech:

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Those 2 fungicides have the same content, mancozeb, which is not effective in rainy days because it is a contact fungicide. U shud have bought redforce or others that contains copper and metalaxyl. u can then use it in rotation with saaf. Anyway, u can still manage these ones for now.

I dont really know about fungicide because am not used to farming. Am jus an animal scientist.
But I love Foreign fruits

And uhmm, they only need this fungicide for the first 3 months or so.. And they are raised inside placed near south west window for uptimum light and shaded sunlight, rain couldn't wash the fungicide away

Good day boss, please can you share with us in details how u managed to sprout your seeds. cos I tried sprouting mine by sowing it directly into the soil but it hasn't sprout and this is 20 days and counting. Please help and enthusiast out

Olalekan4646:

I dont really know about fungicide because am not used to farming. Am jus an animal scientist.
But I love Foreign fruits

And uhmm, they only need this fungicide for the first 3 months or so.. And they are raised inside placed near south west window for uptimum light and shaded sunlight, rain couldn't wash the fungicide away

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Normally, diseases is problematic when the plant leaves are wet. And take care, fungicides/pesticides are toxic to health.

My own apple plants.

Emempaul:
Good day boss, please can you share with us in details how u managed to sprout your seeds. cos I tried sprouting mine by sowing it directly into the soil but it hasn't sprout and this is 20 days and counting. Please help and enthusiast out

Hello Emempaul, sowing apple directly in the soil after taking the fruit, the seed will rot. Apple are temperate fruits, they require some months of stratification to break the dormancy in them, after you getting the seed from the apple, clean well, find a wet napkin towel or tissue paper, wet it and place the seed in a wet napkin and placed inside a disposable plastic and out it inside fridge or freezer, but make sure you don't have out it in the area where things freezes...
Take note, the frigde must be constantly cold for about 6-4 months, then you will see some apple seed germinating themelves, you can go ahead and plant them in a treated soil media, then, but make sure the rest of the seed spend 4 month in the fridge, if they don't sprout yet, you can put all of them on the soil like that, within 2 weeks, they will start germinating.

FarmTech:
My own apple plants.

How many months old is that, i guess one month. And how many did you started from seed and what are the numbers that survived to this stage

You can keep us updated on your apple progression, so as to compare with mine here @Farmtech

Olalekan4646:


How many months old is that, i guess one month. And how many did you started from seed and what are the numbers that survived to this stage

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Unfortunately, I can't remember if I wrote down the planting date. will check later. I started with 5. And I think I over watered. The media (previously meant for pawpaw) was treated soil and pig manure. Treated months ago with red force fungicide and Abamectin for nematodes and soil insects.

Olalekan4646:

Hello Emempaul, sowing apple directly in the soil after taking the fruit, the seed will rot. Apple are temperate fruits, they require some months of stratification to break the dormancy in them, after you getting the seed from the apple, clean well, find a wet napkin towel or tissue paper, wet it and place the seed in a wet napkin and placed inside a disposable plastic and out it inside fridge or freezer, but make sure you don't have out it in the area where things freezes...
Take note, the frigde must be constantly cold for about 6-4 months, then you will see some apple seed germinating themelves, you can go ahead and plant them in a treated soil media, then, but make sure the rest of the seed spend 4 month in the fridge, if they don't sprout yet, you can put all of them on the soil like that, within 2 weeks, they will start germinating.

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But my own were already germinating in the fruit.

FarmTech:

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But my own were already germinating in the fruit.

You had lucky and the only apple that is easily germinated or readily germinated inside the apple is pink lady Aka crips pink, because it can store up to like 6 months in the fridge before starting to get spoil, so from the farm or industry it's been produced, they may have stored it for like 3 months in the freezer before distributing it out, so it's already stratified, most of all my pink lady apple has broken endocarp of the seed, so when I stratified them in the freezer some don't spend up to a month before they started germinating.

Keep us updated about your progress.
But be cautious of this if you don't want to loose the other two that remain.
1) never add water more than once in two weeks, its better they had dry soil. Media rather Tha wet or soggy media, that kills them immediately.
2) when u want to water, only use your one hand palm to fetch water from a bowl and pour the water on the seedling, two hand full is okay, that will keep them hydrated for next 14 days.
3) hard wood shaving on the topmost of the soil so as to serve as mulching, to decrease the rate of transportation.

Olalekan4646:

You had lucky and the only apple that is easily germinated or readily germinated inside the apple is pink lady Aka crips pink, because it can store up to like 6 months in the fridge before starting to get spoil, so from the farm or industry it's been produced, they may have stored it for like 3 months in the freezer before distributing it out, so it's already stratified, most of all my pink lady apple has broken endocarp of the seed, so when I stratified them in the freezer some don't spend up to a month before they started germinating.

Keep us updated about your progress.
But be cautious of this if you don't want to loose the other two that remain.
1) never add water more than once in two weeks, its better they had dry soil. Media rather Tha wet or soggy media, that kills them immediately.
2) when u want to water, only use your one hand palm to fetch water from a bowl and pour the water on the seedling, two hand full is okay, that will keep them hydrated for next 14 days.
3) hard wood shaving on the topmost of the soil so as to serve as mulching, to decrease the rate of transportation.

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Thanks. I lost one. 2 remains now. Will follow ur advice.

FarmTech:

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Thanks. I lost one. 2 remains now. Will follow ur advice.

I also loose two in the previous week.. Remain 3.
I think you should move the only survivor into the ground. And make a protection guard for it from bird, animals or stop been stamp upon. And make sure its not in a water logged area... That will stop it from having died of root rot or damping off.
I have about 20 more seeds in the freezer I havnt planted out, I will plant them out this week and I have 40 more varieties of apples, 5 pear seeds, Peach and nectarine seeds, about 15 of them.
They will go through stratification in the freezer till December or January, will plant them out by January and give you update.

Olalekan4646:

I also loose two in the previous week.. Remain 3.
I think you should move the only survivor into the ground. And make a protection guard for it from bird, animals or stop been stamp upon. And make sure its not in a water logged area... That will stop it from having died of root rot or damping off.
I have about 20 more seeds in the freezer I havnt planted out, I will plant them out this week and I have 40 more varieties of apples, 5 pear seeds, Peach and nectarine seeds, about 15 of them.
They will go through stratification in the freezer till December or January, will plant them out by January and give you update.

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But the rain is still too much now.

FarmTech:

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But the rain is still too much now.

Their was even heavy Rainfall two days ago here and actually much rain enter through the window because it's an heavy Rainfall, all my apples are soaked with water, one died yesterday and the other two are striving.... I pray they should survive, they just die with slightest excess water.
I think if it's planted in ground, the ground can absorb as much water as possible than a container... The water will Drain well in the soil.

Though am planting the remaining apple seed in the freezer on Saturday about 20 seeds, i will try different method to sow them and see the one the survive most

Olalekan4646:

Their was even heavy Rainfall two days ago here and actually much rain enter through the window because it's an heavy Rainfall, all my apples are soaked with water, one died yesterday and the other two are striving.... I pray they should survive, they just die with slightest excess water.
I think if it's planted in ground, the ground can absorb as much water as possible than a container... The water will Drain well in the soil.

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That would be worse oo. Indoor is better.

FarmTech:

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That would be worse oo. Indoor is better.

I think i have a better medium for apple to thrive well without it dieing of damping off or rootrot due to excessive water holding in the soil.. The soil we are using is too heavy for a good drainage to be available, i search the web and see alot of different growing media for apple seedling... Its a very light media, some use perlite with vermiculight and cocopeat, we can't get that here at all, except cocopeat... So i have some pictures here we can mimick their growing media

See how coarse the media is.. Alot of debris like chopped wood, broken clay pot, shriveled dried Leaves and all other stuffs mix with soil

So last 5 days I was able to mimick that, I grinded a dead trees back layer, all softwood I see, dried leaves under mango and cashew trees, with dried shrubs and small trees of last season that are dead, i ground everything together in a mortal, i soaked medium sized and powdered charcoal with urine for two weeks already, to charge the charcoal its called Biocar, its very rich in nutrient for the plant ready available with N:K.
So i mix everything together with my soil i got from the forest... My growing medium is as light as feather... When I pour water on it, it run down straight and all water is drained thoroughly, except the ones the charcoal will hold for several days and will release as moisture.

My new growing media

Nice. Keep us updated.