This is the one for me and you, JK (and the general public of course ). The idea is to pick a movie that is 'confusing' and make it less so. Or we can just compare notes on awesome movies and heighten the experience, so to speak.

Your ball.

. . Just saw this actually. . nice one boss!

Woulda started with Inception, but I/we have trashed it all out in the movie club thread. .

These movies I term confusing.
Momento
Fight Club
Primer
12 Monkeys
Revolver
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Burn After Reading
Inception

Vesc. I know 'Fight Club is close to your heart . . .so we roll?

Brazil (1985)
Ghost in a Shell (1995)
Blade Runner (1982)
Memento (2000) Christopher Nolan!! What more can I say.
Mulholland Drive (2001) Na wa for this David Lynch man sef.
2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) You have to be really really patient with this one.
Inception (2010) Christopher Nolan again!

Actually I saw Inception again and noticed something at the end I missed before. I have a feeling this will be a fairly close knit thread. Let's get Inception outta the way first, shall we?

Nice list, Obi.

this thread aint for me----I dont watch movies that give me headache

hurray. Guys pls lets begin with INCEPTION.
MEMENTO
VANILLA SKY
12 MONKEYS
USUAL SUSPECTS
etc.

Lol. Ijaw girl, headaches are good na. It proves there's something up there. It's the heat generated from all the heavy machinery

12 Monkeys (1995) was weird. At least its better than Brazil (1985).

the list continues:
Donnie Darko (2001) 
Eraserhead (1977) David Lynch!!   
A Clockwork Orange (1971) Stanley Kubrick is a legend in making weird movies. 
Shutter Island (2010)

I'll be checking out "Vanilla Sky" soon. **rushes to store to buy headache pills**

Ach. Well, Inception it is then. But how do we take care of choosing films to talk about afterwards. And how do we know when we've talked enough?

Assuming all else in Inception is clear or as clear as can be, I noticed Leo's totem was still spinning at the end of the film. He didn't wait to pick it up before he went to play with his kids. This means he's still in a dream. But the question is why?

vescucci:

Lol. Ijaw girl, headaches are good na. It proves there's something up there. It's the heat generated from all the heavy machinery

movies- time to relax**inception wuz enough 4 me

Vanilla Sky-- aint that difficult to understand

obinna5000:

the list continues:
Donnie Darko (2001)

THAT! especially

vesc. .
finally! You agree with me. I told you Nolan deliberately ended the movie before we could see if the totem stopped spinning or not. My money is on the fact that the whole end was a dream.

If you also remember me saying that we only saw the children's backs when they're playing. and they wore the same clothes every time we saw them. It all goes to show that the children are not real.

As far as we know, the whole movie could have been a dream.

chei. . you just made me want to see the movie again.

Yeah, I agree with you. His totem was spinning for way too long for it too be natural. What I don't get is what's the point if everything is a dream? It leaves a lot to the viewer's interpretation.

Thats the beauty of it all. . if its all a dream. And lemme say this, it is not compulsory to have a point!.

One thing I keep stressing is Nolan's deliberate attempt to confuse us and let our minds think in different directions. and he has succeded.
And i keep asking this question. . . what was our (the viewer) totem?
How do we keep track of what's real and what's a dream?

Yeah, we had no totem and even if we did, it could be fake like our friend's. I was even thinking, when Ellen Page was being inducted, what if you get tricked to find a totem while in a dream's dream thinking you were only in a dream. Evil I tells ya. The film is awesome like that. Let's do one of yours next.

Evil. .
And remember a scene after Leo and his crew tried getting the info from some guy, Leo went to the bathroom, splashed some water on his face and brought out his totem to spin. . .to see if he was in a dream or not. . But sadly/happily, he was interrupted and he quickly hid the totem. .
My guess is, that was all a dream. .

Mad stuff I tell ya. .

Have you seen 12 Monkeys? I dont understand that movie till tomorrow. Only JeSoul does.
If you havent seen it, lets do Fight Club. .

I'm loving this thread. .(Y)

They'll soon be awarding degrees on the study of Inception. Besides it's only his totem that was always being referred to, never others. Anyways, case closed. We all agree that everything centres around the totem(s).

I've seen 12 Monkeys but so so long ago I don't remember much of it. Let's do Fight Club.

Fight Club. . .Let's roll.

I love and hate this movie. For the exact same reason. . .It confused me.
I'll try to write what I remember. Here goes.

Jack is a disturbed individual, who suffers from insomnia. he sees a doctor, who tells him to visit a support group to see what pain really was. he finds an ability to sleep after going to these support groups, often of which he ends up crying to relieve stress from a common office job, common apartment, and a dull, bland, life. A girl makes an appearance at one of the support groups for males only- so she is clearly what Jack calls a fake cos he's also a fake. He finds that he can not enjoy the support groups knowing that she's there faking along with him. Eventually, he confronts her and they work out a temporary solution- which ultimately ends up failing.

Then he meets some guy after his apartment burns. .they fought and the fight club was formed. Other disturbed men started to join.

Something in this movie threw me away. .and i cant place my finger on it. But it mos def isnt your regular movie cos its theme is dark.
It borders around real and unreal. Fake and truth. Like Jack had a multiple personality of some sort. The dude he fought with to start the fight club was actually himself.

I remember a scene towards the end where the other dude was ready to explode buildings while he watched. Jack realizes that the other guy was actually him and nothing more than an apparition or split personality. He ends up putting a gun inside his mouth and pulling the trigger, only to still live and realize that the other dude is gone. He then wakes up in a mental hospital.

I'm still confused as to what it all means tho. . The end didn't even try to make me any less confused. .

Your take. .

A friend of mine told me a film called PRIMER is more complicated than INCEPTION.
I'll go and check it out.

Memento certainly fits in this list !

I saw Memento again recently so I can take that one apart limb after limb.

Fight Club has been a while. The following can be safely assumed: Norton is real. Brad is unreal. Every other person (and their actions) may or may not be real.

It's been a while I saw it last, so I'm gonna be rusty. I think the whole film is the accelerating descent of a man from eccentricity to full fledged psychosis.

Norton's character indeed had MPD and he definitely hallucinates almost all the time. He occasionally is confronted with a paradox and he regains a brief semblance of sanity before going back down under. His pulling the trigger but not dying in the end is psycho-banishment of Brad's character. What I'm not sure of at the moment is if there really is a Fight Club or it's all in his head. Cuz there's a fail safe mechanism of never talking about Fight Club. Anyways, Brad's character is what Norton's character's psyche thinks he ought to be. The psyche only went and externalized it and brought hell upon our man. I can't remember but I think there was some drug abuse? Psychedelic drugs like LSD perhaps?

The movie tends to go very deep into the real reason man is. Its beyond MPD, it goes more into explaining things about man himself.
(I hope im not going over board)
I think Brad created Norton, or the reverse, so that the latter can do what the former couldnt or was afraid to do.

I remember a scene where Brad/Norton went into a store with a gun and threatened to come back to shoot the store attendant if he didnt pursue his dreams of going to school and making something of his life.
Also, the scene where Norton/Brad was driving really fast on a rainy night (not sure if it was raining) and one was telling the other to slow down, and he told him to stop being afraid. That death was only a fear mechanism that slowed people down. .

So I think the movie was tryin to show a man who created another personality to live out his fantasies. :blowing buildings up, drawing blood from another man. .

Jus 2 cents tho.

I'm very very unfamiliar with Momento. But wld be glad to read what you've got on it.

Yes, yes, yes. No, no, no I'm not having a heavenly feeling. FYI I actually typed heavenly feeling. Yeah, you're right about the movie and what the character sets out to do.

You're not familiar with Memento cuz you've not seen it? If that's the case, I envy you. I'd love to relive the experience. If you haven't download and watch it. It's not complicated because it's not open to multiple interpretations like the staple here. Only the mode of the storytelling is complicated. Anyways, waiting for ze green light.

abeg make dis thread no be like dat 'suggest a movie for review'. Make everybody dey contribute oo! Inception don finish. I think d whole film might be a dream. I never watch fight club oo, imagine. Eff up.

C'mon. Your contributions are welcome. Here and especially there.

In Inception did it occur to anyone that the dice was not his totem?

Was his totem not like a spinning top and his wife was the one with dice?

Donnie Darko is senseless and that is coming from a scifi geek

Mulholland Drive is abslute rubbish and Lynch just loves fucking with his viewers, I will not be watching any of his films again.

2001 Space Odyssey is boring, I gave up after 30 minutes of showing the spaceship.

We never said the dice was his totem na. We all agree it was the spinning top. Technically, the spinning top was originally his wife's totem which she locked in a cupboard to intentionally jeopardize her ability to distinguish fantasy from reality. Her husband found it and adopted it as his own later, I think.

Vesc. .
I've not seen Momento at all though I had a chance to sometime ago. I'll download and see it but lemme hear/read your thots on it. And here is your green light +-™

. . . Inception is really a beautiful movie. Hope those guys at the Academy agree.

@justkunmi
I doubt if INCEPTION will win Best Picture at the Oscars today. It might go to either THE KING'S SPEECH or THE SOCIAL NETWORK.
But I'm sure INCEPTION will win the Best Visual Effects category unless . . .

Well, you were right Obinna.

Now to Memento. Who has seen Memento?

I'm waiting to read bout Momento. .