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Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by Spy360(m): 7:23pm On Sep 28
oscarsam:


Not theories per say, rather observations with many unanswered questions.

The first man to travel into "space" said the earth is as flat as a disk with upturned edges. He didn't use fish lens cameras. He's called Auguste Picard. Why aren't we taught about him?

He said he saw the sun and went past it till he hit water far above the sun. Why hasn't anyone explained what Picard saw or refute him in his lifetime? They simply waited till he died before they began telling lies
I will have to research first but this sounds DSLR more like fiction to me.
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by oscarsam(m): 7:58pm On Sep 28
khingTony:

The earth is not flat, or how will you explain the "Sinking" illusion of a ship when you watch it sail the distance, how will you explain the rising and setting of the sun, how will you explain the fact that its 7pm here but 11am in Washington, how will you explain the circumnavigation (where a sailor returned to the same spot severally while sailing round the earth), how will you explain the low temperature of the North and south poles and the high temperature of the equatorial region How will you explain the lunar eclipse where the earth always have a round profile/impression on the moon And so much more

Ships seems to disappear because they have gone beyond our line of vision. When the ship disappears, use a binoculars and you'll see the ship is still there. This has been proven severally and there are documented videos showing this fact on YouTube.
All lens created are called fish eye lens, from airplane windows to cameras and drones, check them, they all have fish lens (concave on one side) this will always produce a circular feedback.

The earth is not just hanging in space, it's fixed. It has foundations that are immovable and because the sun isn't bigger than the earth like we think, the sun actually moves from the east to west and back in a circular motion.
That's why we have different time zones.


The Earth having a round impression of the Moon is nothing but an illusion. We can attest to the fact that the very best way to ascertain the real picture of anything is through the use of a lens.
Take for example, we always tend to see a road filled with water when looking at a tiled road from a far distance. However,this doesn't mean the road is filled with water as we do see.
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by oscarsam(m): 8:11pm On Sep 28
Spy360:

I will have to research first but this sounds DSLR more like fiction to me.
We await your reply.
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by khingTony(m): 8:16pm On Sep 28
oscarsam:


Ships seems to disappear because they have gone beyond our line of vision. When the ship disappears, use a binoculars and you'll see the ship is still there. This has been proven severally and there are documented videos showing this fact on YouTube.
All lens created are called fish eye lens, from airplane windows to cameras and drones, check them, they all have fish lens (concave on one side) this will always produce a circular feedback.

The earth is not just hanging in space, it's fixed. It has foundations that are immovable and because the sun isn't bigger than the earth like we think, the sun actually moves from the east to west and back in a circular motion.
That's why we have different time zones.


The Earth having a round impression of the Moon is nothing but an illusion. We can attest to the fact that the very best way to ascertain the real picture of anything is through the use of a lens.
Take for example, we always tend to see a road filled with water when looking at a tiled road from a far distance. However,this doesn't mean the road is filled with water as we do see.
WTF did I just read shocked
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by oscarsam(m): 8:25pm On Sep 28
khingTony:
WTF did I just read shocked
We are all here to learn Sir. You can as well discredit it with any proven fact so we all can learn from you.
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by davidadeoluwa(m): 9:49pm On Sep 28
[quote author=oscarsam post=94412272]
Ships seems to disappear because they have gone beyond our line of vision. When the ship disappears, use a binoculars and you'll see the ship is still there. This has been proven severally and there are documented videos showing this fact on YouTube.
All lens created are called fish eye lens, from airplane windows to cameras and drones, check them, they all have fish lens (concave on one side) this will always produce a circular feedback.The earth is not just hanging in space, it's fixed. It has foundations that are immovable and because the sun isn't bigger than the earth like we think, the sun actually moves from the east to west and back in a circular motion.That's why we have different time zones.The Earth having a round impression of the Moon is nothing but an illusion. So how is circumnavigation possible and why are ships not falling off the 'edge of the earth' ? Abi there is no edge?
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by khingTony(m): 10:02pm On Sep 28
davidadeoluwa:

So how is circumnavigation possible and why are ships not falling of the 'edge of the earth' ? Abi there is no edge?

Oscarsam please answer this
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by Spy360(m): 10:24pm On Sep 28
oscarsam:


Ships seems to disappear because they have gone beyond our line of vision. When the ship disappears, use a binoculars and you'll see the ship is still there. This has been proven severally and there are documented videos showing this fact on YouTube.
All lens created are called fish eye lens, from airplane windows to cameras and drones, check them, they all have fish lens (concave on one side) this will always produce a circular feedback.

The earth is not just hanging in space, it's fixed. It has foundations that are immovable and because the sun isn't bigger than the earth like we think, the sun actually moves from the east to west and back in a circular motion.
That's why we have different time zones.


The Earth having a round impression of the Moon is nothing but an illusion. We can attest to the fact that the very best way to ascertain the real picture of anything is through the use of a lens.
Take for example, we always tend to see a road filled with water when looking at a tiled road from a far distance. However,this doesn't mean the road is filled with water as we do see.
Are other planets flat?

At least we can see some of them even with naked eye. They are not flat. There have also been pictures taking from the International Space Station showing that the earth is spherical. Earth sightings by robotic space probes and lander also show the earth is spherical. Your 'assumptions ' are based on thoughts rather than facts.

Galileo Galilie paid a huge price proving how flat the earth is, don't let his ghost haunt you. smiley
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by oscarsam(m): 10:43pm On Sep 28
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Circumnavigation is possible due to the radioactive waves above the Earth's atmosphere.

We don't fall of because there's no bottom country, we don't fall of because the earth has upturned edges. We are all on one plane unlike the spherical ball that has Australia at the bottom.
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by oscarsam(m): 10:49pm On Sep 28
Spy360:

Are other planets flat?

At least we can see some of them even with naked eye. They are not flat. There have also been pictures taking from the International Space Station showing that the earth is spherical. Earth sightings by robotic space probes and lander also show the earth is spherical. Your 'assumptions ' are based on thoughts rather than facts.

Galileo Galilie paid a huge price proving how flat the earth is, don't let his ghost haunt you. smiley

Sorry to say this, but the world you see today is the one programmed for you to believe.

Why not ask yourself why NASA and the likes won't show us the real pictures taken from space.
Why do they have to first Photoshop and edit the images before sharing it with us?
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by TeflonBlixx: 11:02pm On Sep 28
It's the 21st century people.. Someone outchea still believes the Earth has four corners grin grin
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by oscarsam(m): 11:06pm On Sep 28
A quick one
why can't we dig from one side of the earth to the other and how is it that the rain is falling upside down in the bottom countries?


How does gravity stop ships from falling when they sail upside down or sideways up but not stop tiny birds from flying?
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by Spy360(m): 11:13pm On Sep 28
oscarsam:


Sorry to say this, but the world you see today is the one programmed for you to believe.

Why not ask yourself why NASSA and the likes won't show us the real pictures taken from space.
Why do they have to first Photoshop and edit the images before sharing it with us?
So what does NASA stand to gain?
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by Spy360(m): 11:16pm On Sep 28
oscarsam:
A quick one
why can't we dig from one side of the earth to the other and how is it that the rain is falling upside down in the bottom countries?


How does gravity stop ships from falling when they sail upside down or sideways up but not stop tiny birds from flying?
Gravity pulls every object towards it's centre, so a ship traveling will follow a pathway allowed by gravity even if it means staying 'upside down' from another reference point.
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by oscarsam(m): 11:21pm On Sep 28
Spy360:

Gravity pulls every object towards it's centre, so a ship traveling will follow a pathway allowed by gravity even if it means staying 'upside down' from another reference point.

What kind of force keeps oceans at the bottom on the globe intact but allows humans swim on top of the oceans? Allows birds fly on top of the oceans but pulls down ships and let's them move on top of the ocean up side down

Why is the gravity selective in what it pulls and what it doesn't?
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by oscarsam(m): 11:28pm On Sep 28
Spy360:

So what does NASA stand to gain?

It all goes down to the days of Pythagoras who studied and understood heliocentrism written in Greek language.
I know by now you must have heard of the Masonic Movement and the NWO.
NASA is being dominated by the top members of Freemasons hence, the mental programming and lies they keep feeding us so as to archive their NWO.
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by davidadeoluwa(m): 8:51am On Sep 29
oscarsam:


Circumnavigation is possible due to the radioactive waves above the Earth's atmosphere.

We don't fall of because there's no bottom country, we don't fall of because the earth has upturned edges. We are all on one plane unlike the spherical ball that has Australia at the bottom.
So you mean the edges of the earth curve upwards? Why aren't we sailing the skies yet? And how in the universe does radioactive waves aid circumnavigation? Scientific proofs abeg
Besides how do you think satellites move above the earth back and forth if they aren't moving in orbits?
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by Spy360(m): 9:05am On Sep 29
oscarsam:


What kind of force keeps oceans at the bottom on the globe intact but allows humans swim on top of the oceans? Allows birds fly on top of the oceans but pulls down ships and let's them move on top of the ocean up side down

Why is the gravity selective in what it pulls and what it doesn't?
Gravitational force affects all that you have mentioned - floatation, flight, density, pressure, etc. Check your Physics 101
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by khingTony(m): 9:22am On Sep 29
oscarsam:


Circumnavigation is possible due to the radioactive waves above the Earth's atmosphere.

We don't fall of because there's no bottom country, we don't fall of because the earth has upturned edges. We are all on one plane unlike the spherical ball that has Australia at the bottom.
We all are on one plane and the sun will be visible in Africa but North America will be seeing only the moon, how's that possible? The sun seems like a sphere, the moon looks like a sphere, other planets looks like a sphere, but only the Earth is a rectangle A round of applause for this guy please


Okay, tell me, how is it possible that we can see other planets? Are they above the "flat" earth And why is the equatorial region hotter than the North and south poles
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by gensteejay(m): 9:22am On Sep 29
Some poeple skipped Physics classes in SSI or never even took any courses in Physics or did any research in science (physics).

Saying trash with confidence. Lols.

Flat-earth arguments are silly.
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by oscarsam(m): 10:01am On Sep 29
Spy360:

Gravitational force affects all that you have mentioned - floatation, flight, density, pressure, etc. Check your Physics 101

am not talking about gravity per se, I'm talking about the circumstance itself. If the earth is a sphere, those on the bottom side like Australia are up side down, their seas are upside down, their ships sail upside down etc. When you ask why this is possible, how does gravity hold a gigantic swimming pool upside down and even makes sure the waves fall downside up They say gravity. They say the mighty ships carrying thousands of containers are also held intact upside down by this same gravity but the gravity allows rain to fall upside side down and allows kites to fly upside down even allow tiny birds to fly upside down.

If really trillions of litres of water are being held upside down by a super gigantic force, I doubt the force will spare a flying bird or a soaring kite or even an airplane no matter it's altitude.
At 10,000ft below the water surface, the pressure of the sea (water) will crack the hardest bulletproof enforced glasses under 20minutes so think of the force gravity must exact from all dimensions to hold the oceans upside down. It's equivalent to an adult elephant standing on a paper. No hope of surviving. It should even collapse the lungs within 2seconds.

Secondly, when you spin a wet ball, the water flies away from it in all directions irrespective of gravity so why aren't the oceans spinning away from our ball shaped spinning earth?
Some people can't be upside down with a monstrous gravity holding them in place. It cant work.

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Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by oscarsam(m): 10:27am On Sep 29
davidadeoluwa:
So you mean the edges of the earth curve upwards? Why aren't we sailing the skies yet? And how in the universe does radioactive waves aid circumnavigation? Scientific proofs abeg
Besides how do you think satellites move above the earth back and forth if they aren't moving in orbits?

the continent's of the world are just a quarter of the world, water is three-quater. Water surrounds this continents then an ice wall surrounds the waters. Above, there is a firmament which nothing can penetrate.

Just like Auguste Picarde said, the earth has upturned edges, the upturned edges are now known as the ice walls of Antarctica so thinking of what lies beyond the wall? You cant find out for these reasons:

i. Think of the wall like the ice wall in Game of Thrones which is so powerful and huge, it will take more than the flood of Noah to flood it over. So if I were you, I won't even think of adventuring beyond the wall which you cant sef.
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ii. Another reason is reason is you need special permit to go to antarctica (the wall) which no one will give you and the points which are closest to human dwellings are guarded by huge ships which wont allow anyone pass without authorisation.

Satellites move back and forth above the Earth exactly how the creator programmed it.

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Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by gensteejay(m): 10:43am On Sep 29
oscarsam:


the continent's of the world are just a quarter of the world, water is three-quater. Water surrounds this continents then an ice wall surrounds the waters. Above, there is a firmament which nothing can penetrate.

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Apart from your long posts on Nairaland on flat-earth hypothesis, can you mention one single application/tech built on this hypothesis?

No need for long posts.
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by oscarsam(m): 10:44am On Sep 29
khingTony:

We all are on one plane and the sun will be visible in Africa but North America will be seeing only the moon, how's that possible? The sun seems like a sphere, the moon looks like a sphere, other planets looks like a sphere, but only the Earth is a rectangle A round of applause for this guy please


Okay, tell me, how is it possible that we can see other planets? Are they above the "flat" earth And why is the equatorial region hotter than the North and south poles

Why do all the explored planets look like the earth (deserts of rocks and sand) Why haven't the noticeable different planets like Neptune been explored when there are satellites who have even left our solar system exploring the outer space? Nowhere to shoot the movie?


A quick question for you, why does NASA always feed us computer generated images of the earth, space, planets etc and not the real thing?

There's an actual firmament sealing us in here. I added an illustration for good effect. Please note that nobody has an actual photo because we dont have the resources to go up there and take first hand pictures and those who do are bent on lying to us with computer generated images.
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by gensteejay(m): 11:10am On Sep 29
This guy is a classic example of what studying science through religious dogma (the Bible in this case) does to the brain.

Science is meant to be studied through nature, not through any religious text.

Flat-earth hypothesis is an old issue that can be traced back to some thousands of years in the past, and it has since been debunked by advances made in classical physics a couple of centuries ago.

From the ancient period (during the dark ages of science) when flat-earth hypothesis was prevalent up to this moment, no single application or tech has been built on this ludicrous hypothesis.

There are myriads of applications and technologies built on the concepts of heliocentric model, spherical shape of the earth and related principles.

You can't find any top or brilliant scientist supporting the archaic flat-earth hypothesis and geocentric model.

Only those with poor knowledge of science and deep distrust for science support such a silly hypothesis.

Yet, there's no single publication about flat-hypothesis (that details experiments and evidence in support of the hypothesis) in a top journal.

Also, there's no single application of and tech built on the hypothesis.

Flat-earth hypothesis and geocentric model are simply tripe.
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by oscarsam(m): 4:16pm On Sep 29
gensteejay:
This guy is a classic example of what studying science through religious dogma (the Bible in this case) does to the brain.

Science is meant to be studied through nature, not through any religious text.

Flat-earth hypothesis is an old issue that can be traced back to some thousands of years in the past, and it has since been debunked by advances made in classical physics a couple of centuries ago.

From the ancient period (during the dark ages of science) when flat-earth hypothesis was prevalent up to this moment, no single application or tech has been built on this ludicrous hypothesis.

There are myriads of applications and technologies built on the concepts of heliocentric model, spherical shape of the earth and related principles.

You can't find any top or brilliant scientist supporting the archaic flat-earth hypothesis and geocentric model.

Only those with poor knowledge of science and deep distrust for science support such a silly hypothesis.

Yet, there's no single publication about flat-hypothesis (that details experiments and evidence in support of the hypothesis) in a top journal.

Also, there's no single application of and tech built on the hypothesis.

Flat-earth hypothesis and geocentric model are simply tripe.

There won't be any need going further with this as you've already believed in a Spherical Earth Theory.

in other not to kill the purpose of the thread, can we talk about more of Astronomical Discoveries.
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by gensteejay(m): 4:25pm On Sep 29
oscarsam:


There won't be any need going further with this as you've already believed in a Spherical Earth Theory.

Science doesn't do beliefs, but knowledge backed with observational data and hard facts.

No point derailing this thread with the flat-earth hypothesis.

Science has long gone past establishing the shape of the earth and its relative position to the sun, other planets and celestial bodies.

The shape of the earth is an established fact in science with myriads of applications in real life.
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by sinkhole: 6:50pm On Sep 29
Spy360:
The current trend now is that sign of life is being discovered in Venus. Probably Venus had living things millions of years ago or was it that early civilization moved from Venus to Earth when the planet became inhabitable?
Your first theory make sense but the second theory is out of it entirely because for interplanetary travel some form of technology will be needed, our current technological revolution started about 300 or so years ago!
The first theory do make sense because the presence of life, in whatever form but most likely cellular or perhaps some lower plant forms, could have existed on Venus before runaway greenhouse effect exterminated the lives!
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by khingTony(m): 6:54pm On Sep 29
oscarsam:


There won't be any need going further with this as you've already believed in a Spherical Earth Theory.

in other not to kill the purpose of the thread, can we talk about more of Astronomical Discoveries.
All your theories and "long posts" are totally flawed, you believe In a " flat earth" but you can't see the mount Everest from where you are even if you use the James Webb space telescope. You believe in a "flat earth" but when you look in the distance unobstructed, it'll seem as if the sky is "Touching" the earth, When you go to a beach and watch the sun set, it seems like the sun is actually falling on the earth.

A place like Greenland experience a 24-hour darkness and a 24-hour sunlight for at least one day of the year, how would you explain that? The sun skipped the country or the sun forgot set there? Pathetic sad
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by Spy360(m): 10:36pm On Sep 29
sinkhole:

Your first theory make sense but the second theory is out of it entirely because for interplanetary travel some form of technology will be needed, our current technological revolution started about 300 or so years ago!
The first theory do make sense because the presence of life, in whatever form but most likely cellular or perhaps some lower plant forms, could have existed on Venus before runaway greenhouse effect exterminated the lives!
Both hypothesis are well under investigations. The first like you said is the more probable, but we can never rule out the second. these are things that may are expected to have taken place millions of years ago, perhaps some form of advanced civilization.

Though personally I strongly doubt the existence of any life form outside Earth.
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by Spy360(m): 10:44pm On Sep 29
oscarsam:


am not talking about gravity per se, I'm talking about the circumstance itself. If the earth is a sphere, those on the bottom side like Australia are up side down, their seas are upside down, their ships sail upside down etc. When you ask why this is possible, how does gravity hold a gigantic swimming pool upside down and even makes sure the waves fall downside up They say gravity. They say the mighty ships carrying thousands of containers are also held intact upside down by this same gravity but the gravity allows rain to fall upside side down and allows kites to fly upside down even allow tiny birds to fly upside down.

If really trillions of litres of water are being held upside down by a super gigantic force, I doubt the force will spare a flying bird or a soaring kite or even an airplane no matter it's altitude.
At 10,000ft below the water surface, the pressure of the sea (water) will crack the hardest bulletproof enforced glasses under 20minutes so think of the force gravity must exact from all dimensions to hold the oceans upside down. It's equivalent to an adult elephant standing on a paper. No hope of surviving. It should even collapse the lungs within 2seconds.

Secondly, when you spin a wet ball, the water flies away from it in all directions irrespective of gravity so why aren't the oceans spinning away from our ball shaped spinning earth?
Some people can't be upside down with a monstrous gravity holding them in place. It cant work.
I understand you are exercising your sense of reasoning and I sincerely appreciate it.

For your question, you really need to understand the concept of gravity especially from quantum mechanical principles because thosethings you mentioned like water from a spinning ball is eplained by the theory. Even classical physics show that through centripetal and centrifugal forces which are subject to gravity.
Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by Spy360(m): 10:59pm On Sep 29
khingTony:

All your theories and "long posts" are totally flawed, you believe In a " flat earth" but you can't see the mount Everest from where you are even if you use the James Webb space telescope. You believe in a "flat earth" but when you look in the distance unobstructed, it'll seem as if the sky is "Touching" the earth, When you go to a beach and watch the sun set, it seems like the sun is actually falling on the earth.

A place like Greenland experience a 24-hour darkness and a 24-hour sunlight for at least one day of the year, how would you explain that? The sun skipped the country or the sun forgot set there? Pathetic sad
Oh yes! He only needs to watch the planets using a telescope and see that all planetary bodies are some what spherical.

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