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|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by EMILO2STAY(m): 11:37am On Oct 12|
khingTony:and can you also answer what is keeping the sun hanging 93million miles away from the earth according to your own heliocentric belief?
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by khingTony(m): 11:44am On Oct 12|
Answer my question first
You've just been running away from this question
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by EMILO2STAY(m): 1:05pm On Oct 12|
Spy360:you are wrong here. Mine are not theories but facts which can be witnessed and confirmed and other proponents belief or theories are not even rational because it doesn't make sense neither can it be witnessed in the real world. So i did not make any error here.
Spy360:now to assume the floor must be round because the light bulb is round is not proper reasoning.
What we call planets today are nothing but stars of light in the sky which the ancients call wandering stars. If gazed upon by a high powered camera or a telescope one can see that these things are not physical terra firma because they wobble in shape as if in water and give out different colours of light.
the fact that these things are not considered as another world like earth can be seen in the naming of our week days which are named after pagan gods who they believed to be represented by the these stars and earth is not one of them hence you don't have any week named after earth.
Assumption that they formed about the same time is just an assumption nothing more. There is no fact behind it. Till this day the photographs of the planets we have including that of the earth is cartoon composite made from the computer. A fact admitted by robert simmons of nasa. Many photographs of the earth had been exposed as fraud because their colour keeps changing and the continents either shrinks or gets bigger in size. In some composite images of the earth the evidence of photoshop is clearly seen in the way clouds have multiple duplicates around the ball earth.
The earth is not a ball spinning in space because this is seemingly impossible and unrealistic.
From all indication as attested to by our common sense, experience and reality the earth is stable and flat with a dome as covering making it impossible to leave and go out of this world. It is an enclosed eco system.
Spy360:first of all we can determine that the sun is not 93 million miles away because we see it is very close to use with our own eyes.
Secondly the sun must be close and its light concentrated in other for its heat to reach us the way we see it happen in the real world. This would be impossible if the sun is 93million miles away from the earth while throwing its light from 93 million miles away in cold space to heat up the earth because the light must be freezing cold before it reaches the earth and so therefore it cannot heat up the earth. Secondly we normally experience a situation were the rays of the sun comes down in a triangular shape which is an indication that the sum light is close and concentrated. this cannot happen if the sun is 93million miles away and several times bigger than the earth
Beside that the heat of the sun is concentrated at the equator this requires a small and closed sun to achieve but would be impossible if that sun is bigger than the earth and far away because of that was the case then there is no way he equator should be the hottest zone on the earth this is because the suns light would be same in both north and south poles. Yet another problem is that the earth is said to be tilted so how come the equator is the hottest part?
We can determine the distance of the sun and moon as just being a few thousand miles using a sextant.
They cannot be reached because these things are in the firmament of the earth which acts as a covering and nothing gets past it.
Spy360:the movement of the small and close sun around the surface of the flat earth causes the difference in time zone and season. In the flat earth model the north pole is at the center of
The circle while the south poles is a 360° running huge ice circle that encloses the oceans.
Now the movement of the sun around the poles from the northern to the southern poles as it courses around the surface of the earth produces the seasons and the difference on time zone. This can be seen in the phenomenon Known as the the solar analemma. a situation were a photograph of the suns movement taken everyday through out the year forms a figure eight in the sky.
This is because the sun rotates a wider southern hemisphere path during the winter and smaller northern path during the summer.
during the winter, the speed of the sun around the southern poles is Much faster because it has to cover a wider path around the earth. but goes around the northern poles with slower speed because its path around the earth in the north pole is a smaller path. This is why the countries around the poles experience what is known as the midnight sun a situation where the sun does not really set even at mid night during summer but do not experience it during winter and also this is what causes the difference in length of days on both poles respectively.
But on the globular earth model it is said that the earth is closer to the sun at summer and farther from the sun at winter. If this is the case then the poles should have summer and winter at the same time and should experience the same length of days at both seasons.
Spy360:Isaac newton theories are nothing but theories. His theories are flawed and is not realistic and that is why Einstein had to come up with his own theory on Relativity to try to explain. Away the anomaly of gravity and its unrealistic attestation. The fact here is that Einstein did not go to space to detect and confirm his theories neither did he confirm them with any experiments at all he just made them up out of thin air so how can they be qualified as science.? Yet these things are taught to us in schools.
Now to your question. It is good you asked how come water does not flow of the flat earth. But you did not realize that same water should equally Easily flow off a ball.
Now water unrestrained and uncontained flows freely until it finds balance. This is because water need a container guiding it 360° on all sides to keep it contained.
The earth is just like a plate with walls of ice towering 150 to 200 ft tall at the south poles. This ice acts as a barrier and container for The earths ocean waters and it runs 360° around the earth enclosing the waters intact.
But in The globe earth model we are told it is just a continent with a restriction of a no fly and no sail zones and is off limits for explorers and researchers which is why it is guarded heavily militarily. This is because they are keeping the truth away from the public.
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by EMILO2STAY(m): 1:08pm On Oct 12|
khingTony:lol run from where? I
Asked you the same question you asked me. So why can't you answer yours. Answer yourself first.
Shey you done go space 93 million miles away to
The sun before? To know that gravity is keeping the sun there.
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by noblemichael: 1:11pm On Oct 12|
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|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by osayi90: 2:13pm On Oct 12|
5.) If the earth is flat, why is it that after Ramadan fast in the tallest building in the world known as Burj Khalifa in Dubai, there is a 2minutes interval between when Muslims at the base of the building and the top of the building break their fast. Recall that fasting ends during sunset. The sunset is faster for those at the base than those at the top: the reason is because of the curvature of the earth. Watch how the troll avoids this question as a plague or spits out garbage as he usually does. Hehehehehe... I love this, it makes me laugh hehehehe
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by Spy360(m): 5:33pm On Oct 12|
EMILO2STAY:Your explanations mainly mirrors those of centuries ago. There are also distortions in your analogy of Newton's theories and those of Einstein, which I will not raise here.
Nevertheless, you are within your rights to accept the facts you put up there as they fall within rational thoughts. I congratulate you for this.
Personally I believe in a Creator. One who has created and fashioned out all the natural laws that brought about everything we witness in the universe - and His ways are passed finding out. Based on this, I believe that man will continue to wonder and wander about His creations.
I also believe in science as a body of knowledge which man uses to discover self. But science will always be limited to what we can observe.
I appreciate your response.
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by EMILO2STAY(m): 6:10pm On Oct 12|
Spy360:pls highlight them to show transparency and honesty. I am not doing this for my image or ego, i am doing them with honesty and the need to enlighten. I have nothing to hide.
Spy360:I believe in science too. But most of what we are told are no science at all but pure lies, this is because there is an agenda behind it. Many scientist and professors who dare speak of this are dealt with either by withdrawing research grants and loosing there license to practice or outright death. We are been fed with lies. Yet another lie in the scientific community is the theory of evolution which still holds sway till this day even after some of the so called missing link have been discovered to be fraud yet this things are still in our science text book e.g the piltdown man of Sussex.
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by EMILO2STAY(m): 6:11pm On Oct 12|
osayi90:simple perspective as the sun moves away into the horizon.
If the earth is a ball tilted 23.4°and the sun 93million miles away then how com the equator os the hottest part of the earth?. Now let's watch as you avoid the question
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by gensteejay(m): 6:43pm On Oct 12|
When someone says all what's taught in mainstream science are lies, then one should know it's a waste of time discussing with such a psycho, whose views about reality are grossly distorted.
Only a fool expects smart people to take him seriously when he's not published a single paper and has not done any experiments to verify his silly beliefs, yet he condemns mainstream science that has been applied over the years to develop lots of technologies and has saved billions of human lives.
When you don't trust mainstream science, is it the Bible written by cavemen and with thousands of contradictions, errors and mistakes you would trust?
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by Natziz: 7:46pm On Oct 12|
Come see, someone arguing that the Earth is flat and even giving points. Chey, what an intelligent illiterate.
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by EMILO2STAY(m): 9:44pm On Oct 12|
gensteejay:fool you still show your shameless face without pointing out one of the so called technologies that is built based on a flat earth.
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by EMILO2STAY(m): 9:45pm On Oct 12|
Natziz:can you prove that your standing side ways on a spinning ball right now. Let's know who the illiterate is now.
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by Spy360(m): 10:02pm On Oct 12|
EMILO2STAY:Some theories like evolution are still incomplete and are like dark spots in scientific knowledge. But they still hold logical explanation. That's what I look for.
Like I said, I believe in a Creator. I also believe in scientific knowledge. So combining these two, I see a Creator who establishes the scientific laws to bring about His creations. I hold a weak thought that evolution could have been the route of life creation but like every other thing in creation they are too complex for human mind to comprehend.
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by osayi90: 2:12am On Oct 13|
What? congratulate him for having his own facts . Omo this your diplomacy tie wrapper. Flat earth models are fun to tear apart. I love it .
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by osayi90: 2:20am On Oct 13|
What does this even mean lol. I was right . Jokes apart can you be kind to let me know what your background is? Were you a science student in high school? did you study in the university (not that it matters, some great minds had no formal education). When I am bored I will let you know so you can keep me entertained hehehehe.
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by osayi90: 2:29am On Oct 13|
You just made his point. NONE was built based on FLAT EARTH. The GPS (global positioning system) was not only based on spherical earth but also corrected for relativistic effect (thanks to Einstein). Otherwise, the accuracy would have been way off.
PS: The frequency in which you call other people who disagree with you fools is alarming. What an irony .
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by Najdorf: 5:58am On Oct 13|
EMILO2STAY:This was painful to even skim through but let me just play along.
If you can share some evidence/images of the "edge" of the Earth that would be helpful for your case.
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by Spy360(m): 8:50am On Oct 13|
osayi90:You think it's easy carrying all these 'facts' for head? I congratulate him biko.
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by EMILO2STAY(m): 10:30am On Oct 13|
osayi90:lol @ GPS satellite see your mouth like it was based on relativity. if you must notice he purposely didn't mention it or any of the so called techs based on globe because he knows I have already debunked it months ago.
If i should ask you how does a GPS satellite work you would have no idea yet you believe theirs is a satellite floating in space.
GPS satellite is a hoax, you disagree? ; then I challenged you to show me any pictures of the earth from space showing the so called thousands of satellite floating and orbiting the earth.
Have your had any news of a meteorite smashing a satellite? If there are satellites don't you thin k it would be a normal occurrence?
This hoax goes deep.
It is said the thermosphere is so hot it can melt steel and gold yet satellites are floating in the thermosphere hot enough to burn them up yet they are sending signals to earth without maintenance. See how you have been fooled.
The so called GPS is floating and moving in space which is said to be a vacuum.
Can you pls tell me how an object move around in a vacuum?
Incase you don't know aircrafts push against the atmosphere to move, ships engines push against the water to move forward and the car tire push against the earth to move forward so what does the satellite push against to move forward in a vacuum of nothingness? Now you see that you are not intelligent as you think. You will end up learning from me.
now for you information satellite TV dishes and navigation systems have been in full use and operational before any thing GPS or any thing satellite was ever claimed to be in space. The systems ships use for navigation are know as loran and decca which make use of a system called triangulation and trilateration. All of this receive their signal via ground based cell towers. Even your gsm ( global system mobile) the fact that you have the word global has absolutely nothing to do with a ball earth.
All gsm signals are transmitted via ground based and that is why you have cell towers, telecommunication mast all around the cities and fiber optic cables running across the oceans. This is also why you don't have signals in your phone in areas were their are no telecommunication mast.
Your still a learner and know nothing yet. Check every thing I tell you and confirm that I don't say shit like you.
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by EMILO2STAY(m): 10:31am On Oct 13|
Najdorf:now your beginning to ask questions like you agree to what I am saying but still pretending. Well I will not answer unless you do it in a humble manner.
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by EMILO2STAY(m): 10:58am On Oct 13|
osayi90:when it comes to education most of you are delusional. You think education today makes you knowledgeable but Infact it makes you indoctrinated and Brain washed. I was the best in my class in geography and biology but the teachers in my class then didn't give me my true score because of my puppy love girl friend then just to give you a little jara. But the whole class knew who the best was because they all depended on me during exams.
Now to answer you. The nature of a ball is that it slopes down 369° all around you and this makes the objects slope down below your eye level as they go far away into the horizon. If the earth is a ball curving 8inches/m^2 then one would have to look down into the horizon because the earth is curving down But if the earth is flat and level this makes the nature of the horizon straight and you will have to look straight into the horizon no matter the height you climb the horizon is straight and that is the reality we see in our world.
The human eye see in a triangular manner so objects moving away from you tend to get smaller and smaller as they go away from you until they get to the vanishing point or horizon where they appear to sink below the horizon. This is not because they are sinking but because of the nature of the human eye. If you were to take a telescope and view that object you will get a full view of that object proving they are not going down a curve. Eg check the image below.
The sun moves away from the human eye view and g. ets smaller as it does (depends on the atmospheric conditions) and when it reaches the vanishing point depending on your vantage point it Appears to sink down into The horizon and at this stage if you were to take a zoom camera or to climb unto a higher ground which would expose and allow the view of a farther horizon One can still see the sun again in full view until it is finally gone out of sight due to atmospheric blocking.
The sun is the moving object and not the earth. An evidence of this is the fact that we see it doing so and also the fact that shadows under the sun light move from left to right as the sun moves this is how the ancients were able to tell time using sun and moon dial.
Try the experiment and see if you will get the same result; get a stick and stand it upright, put on your phone light or any other and place it at angle 45°, now. move that light from Left to right and watch how the shadow of that stick also move with the movement of that light.
After that then get a ball place that stick side ways point your light from a distance to that stick on. The ball then rotate the ball to see if you will get the same result.
Like I told you before, education is nothing but a system of misinformation.
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by EMILO2STAY(m): 11:14am On Oct 13|
Spy360:the Darwinian evolution is a complete hoax. The millions of years are fabrication. When it was obvious that people were not buying the idea of evolution due to the absence of evidence such as the missing link.
A man called Charles Dawson in conjunction with a Jesuit priest ( because the vatican are masters of relics fabrication) fabricated the hoax of the piltdown man by combing the skull of a child with the lower jaws of an orangutan and claiming they dug it up from Pilt down Sussex England. . The hoax was discovered by Stephen J gould but this hoax can still be found in some text books.
There is not fish to man evolution. Man was created by God in his image and not by fish to man evolution spanning millions of years.
Scientist once touted the coelacanth fish fossil ( a fish which the scientist said they form man and the rest died out 80-250million yrs ago) as an evidence of fish to man evolution. But when this fish was found in the 1930s on the cost of south africa proving their theory false they were all scratching their head and didn't know what what to say.
Don't depend on the theories of man, depend on the fact and reality you see.
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by gensteejay(m): 11:42am On Oct 13|
EMILO2STAY:I don't have time to waste explaining anything to you when you've already said everything in mainstream science is a lie.
When a mentally unstable person says the scientific concepts, theories, laws, and principles used to build the phone he's typing trash with, his TV, and all the technologies he's ever used in life are all lies, then it becomes clear the seriousness of your condition.
This is my last response to you on this thread.
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by osayi90: 11:55am On Oct 13|
The friends who depended on you must have failed lol. So it is has been a win win for you. This your delusion started when you were young. You fail an exam, it is not because you provided crappy answers (as you are now) but it was because your teachers were jealous of your girlfriend lol. You have always had your alternative facts. No responsibility, nothing. If the world's view does not agree with your concocted theory then the view is wrong.
As for the rest of your write-up, quite frankly when I got to 8 inches/m^2 (what does that unit even mean), I just stopped reading. It is all garbage. Every word you type demonstrates how little you know. I think I now feel a bit of empathy for you than frustration. See a shrink immediately!
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by osayi90: 12:12pm On Oct 13|
There is absolutely nothing rational about those facts. I have interacted with a plethora of brilliant flat-earthers. He does not even come close.
Also, while it is impossible to convince such person, it is quite dangerous to even remotely congratulate him for what he has written. Any newbie who visits this thread may get the impression that what he has written is in, to use your words "within rational thoughts". NO, IT IS NOT!.
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by khingTony(m): 12:18pm On Oct 13|
you were the best but they didn't give you your full score the most ridiculous thing I've read all day pathetic
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by khingTony(m): 12:23pm On Oct 13|
The earth curves 8 inches per mile squared
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by EMILO2STAY(m): 12:27pm On Oct 13|
khingTony:yeah just laugh like a hyena and pass by.
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by EMILO2STAY(m): 12:35pm On Oct 13|
osayi90:all you have is verbal virtuosity and personal stupid attacks. The fact that you can't counter the facts I present word for word with evidence that can be seen in the real world shows how delusional you are. You only attack my person due to you ego and to make you feel better so you can sleep well at night.
Continue with your stupidity am done with you.
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by EMILO2STAY(m): 4:56pm On Oct 13|
gensteejay:silly excuse. You should have used all the time in putting up this lengthy writing to say just one tech built based on the ball earth, instead you typing jargon because you want to shy away.
|Re: General Thread For All Lovers Of Astronomy And Space by EMILO2STAY(m): 5:01pm On Oct 13|
osayi90:your just a low life ignorant fool forming educated here. You don't even know your own ball earth arithmetic of 8inches per mile squared that your fellow argumentator had to spell it out for you. Yet you say you have interacted with many brilliant flat earthers. that is how you people make mouth because its a faceless forum but your own words reveal who you are and your level of knowledge. No wonder I have been wasting my time on an idiot motor park tout and agboro.
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