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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Litmus: 4:39pm On Oct 13, 2020
Coldie:
12 state system is not feasible there was a reason more states were created. More States were created to curb marginalization.

Ebonyi people used to complain about being marginalized that development wasn't reaching them.

Rivers people especially the ikwerres were extremely marginalized under the old rivers state by the Ijaws before bayelsa was created.

Same with akwa ibom/cross rivers. It was marginalization of akwa ibom people by cross rivers that turned lots of them into house maids back in the days

Indeed, this platform that has revealed to those of us born after the creation of more states, just how bigoted the major tribes can be, minorities would be crazy to accept regionalization or state shrinkage. It would be disenfranchising.

Devolved power can equally mean grass-root representations, in this instance, meaning more Tribe representative states. Delta state barely represents Isoko and Urobo people, as it is, without some selfish lot wanting to dismiss our relevance by subsuming us within some larger tribe, especial one whose most ardent advocates are little differentiated from Ethnic Supremacists’ that are never clearer than when expressing hatred and contempt for others.
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by DMerciful(m): 4:40pm On Oct 13, 2020
The geopolitical zones are zone and not regions.The geopolitical zones are unconstitutional! Why are you lying to yourself that SE and middle belt are not demanding for restructuring.
Coldie:

We have 6 geopolitical zones in Nigeria the only regions demanding restructuring is SS and SW do u think it will work?

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Coldie(m): 4:42pm On Oct 13, 2020
DMerciful:
The geopolitical zones are zone and not regions.The geopolitical zones are unconstitutional! Why are you lying to yourself that SE and middle belt are not demanding for restructuring.
SE is not demanding for restructuring, speak for ur region
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by joefelin2345: 4:43pm On Oct 13, 2020
NaijirianKing:
Aworis will finally have independence!!!

Good but his name is Adebiyi
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by prigoz(m): 4:43pm On Oct 13, 2020
protests:
Which leaders? Like this one? No more leaders, belle is talking.
Just like no railways in entire South East but one empty brain at Aso Rock is busy building some to Niger Republic

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Misterdhee1(m): 4:44pm On Oct 13, 2020
Coldie:

We say we no want restructuring is it by force, when we wanted it they called us names, enemies of Nigeria etc now we say we no want again e become fight see o
You didn't answer my question o. Why is SE scared of staying alone? Aren't you guys able to take full controk of your "resources"and" finances,"like many of you make us to believe anymore?

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by IGBOSON1: 4:46pm On Oct 13, 2020
Merimental:
dis must be d elite fraction sanely speaking.

d uneducated bigot, tribalistic quota system bunch will counter attack der brodas opinions soon.

Sad thing is, it’s the opinion of the latter that counts and usually carries the day! smiley

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by omenka(m): 4:47pm On Oct 13, 2020
Rugaria:
If the north leads the so-called restructuring process to fit their grand design again, the rest of the country should object. What I have learnt from all that is going on is that the socalled north gets away with all sorts of evil , simply because the rest of the country is docile. The lopsided state and local government structures in place today were all whimsically designed by northern army officers to favour the north to the detriment of the southern part of the country especially the east. They have more states, more local governments, more allocations, more senators, more....., it's endless ! Now, they are fearful that after Buhari, with the trends of political events, a real restructuring might happen, and they want to quickly effect changes to guarantee nothern domination for another century. This is wrong! It's either everybody is treated equally going forward, or the whole country should expire..
This attitude of us blaming EVERYTHING on the NORTH is the reason our respective states government get away with all manner of crimes against our people. They feel they owe us no responsibility whatsoever, because regardless of what they do, we will BLAME THE NORTH.

I am not sold to this nonsense of blaming the north over everything. I prefer to ask, first of all, what has my successive state governments got to show for the allocations they've received over the years? Ditto local government chairmen, Senators and Representatives. What is there to show?

Is the North the reason why a Southern governor's brother who has no visible source of income, drive the most exotic cars and build the most luxurious houses and buy the choicest properties?

Is the North the reason Southern government officials populate employment vacancies with their family members?

Is the North the reason a Southern state governor owing aged pensioners go on to collect billions in "security votes"?

Are they the reason we have comatose public health and educational systems in the South?

Are they the reason why our state houses of assemblies have become rubber stamps for the executive and the speakers exalted houseboys of the governors?

Are they the reason Southern Senators and Reps collect constituency allowance and pocket same without executing a single project?

The questions are endless!

We should stop blaming the North and hold our very own leaders to account for once. That is what an educated man would do.

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Coldie(m): 4:49pm On Oct 13, 2020
Misterdhee1:

You didn't answer my question o. Why is SE scared of staying alone? Aren't you guys able to take full controk of your "resources"and" finances,"like many of you make us to believe anymore?
How does the SE affairs concern u?

When we said we wanted it weren't u guys the ones call in us Ipob. U guys have succeeded in silencing us. So our verdict is that the status quo must continue.

We don't want where we will say our mind again and same u people from the west will call us ipob.

We patriotic citizens of the SE say no to restructuring

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by DMerciful(m): 4:49pm On Oct 13, 2020
You're a lone voice in the wilderness.
Here you go

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/235590-igbo-political-leaders-reject-biafra-demand-restructuring.html

Coldie:

SE is not demanding for restructuring, speak for ur region

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Coldie(m): 4:51pm On Oct 13, 2020
DMerciful:
You're a lone voice in the wilderness.
Here you go

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/235590-igbo-political-leaders-reject-biafra-demand-restructuring.html

Those people don't know what they are saying.

Its ignorance that's disturbing them.

Igbo's with brain like me are few in igbo land
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Misterdhee1(m): 4:53pm On Oct 13, 2020
Coldie:

How does the SE affairs concern u?

When we said we wanted it weren't u guys the ones call in us Ipob. U guys have succeeded in silencing us. So our verdict is that the status quo must continue.

We don't want where we will say our mind again and same u people from the west will call us ipob.

We patriotic citizens of the SE say no to restructuring
When the stakes are down, hope you know una voice for that side is in the minority as usual? Best of luck antagonizing the overdue call for return to regionalism.

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by DMerciful(m): 4:54pm On Oct 13, 2020
So you have brain and want the status quo to remain?
Coldie:

Those people don't know what they are saying.

Its ignorance that's disturbing them.

Igbo's with brain like me are few in igbo land
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by QuintessentialW: 4:55pm On Oct 13, 2020
gidgiddy:


Theres no problem with this except that we Igbos are going to insist that all Igbo speaking people be put in the Eastern Region. This means that Igbanke in Edo state, Anioma in Delta state, Umuezeokoha in Benue state and Ikwerre, Ekpeye, Ahoada, Asa all Igbo speaking people in Rivers state be added to the present South East to make the Eastern Region.

And I don't see any problem with this...

Why have you cited it as a problem?
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by IGBOSON1: 4:55pm On Oct 13, 2020
obiekunie2:


my brother i beg to disagree with you.

we are not going to force anybody to be among us.

any group desirous of being on their own are free to do so.

My sentiments as well!
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by chris51(f): 4:55pm On Oct 13, 2020
gidgiddy:


Theres no problem with this except that we Igbos are going to insist that all Igbo speaking people be put in the Eastern Region. This means that Igbanke in Edo state, Anioma in Delta state, Umuezeokoha in Benue state and Ikwerre, Ekpeye, Ahoada, Asa all Igbo speaking people in Rivers state be added to the present South East to make the Eastern Region.


Very tall dream

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Gordieshegz(m): 4:56pm On Oct 13, 2020
Coldie:
12 state system is not feasible there was a reason more states were created. More States were created to curb marginalization.

Ebonyi people used to complain about being marginalized that development wasn't reaching them.

Rivers people especially the ikwerres were extremely marginalized under the old rivers state by the Ijaws before bayelsa was created.

Same with akwa ibom/cross rivers. It was marginalization of akwa ibom people by cross rivers that turned lots of them into house maids back in the days


You have rightly spoken bro.
A better option will be true federalism where the present state structure controls its resources.
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by chris51(f): 4:56pm On Oct 13, 2020
chris51:



Very tall dream
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by gidgiddy: 4:57pm On Oct 13, 2020
Dminister:
You are claiming people that are not Igbo. Go and read about the people of Ikwere. They are from Edo state and not igbo, Igbo language only influenced their patrilineal language because Igbo people dominated the ikwere people land... Igbanke people also had similar experience the reason they speak Igbo.

The problem with this narrative is that nobody managed to tell us how those from Edo have Igbo surnames. Did Igbo also dominate them to point of forcing them to drop their ancestral surname and adopt Igbo surnames? Amaechi, Omehia and Wike are surnames of past and serving Ikwerre Governors of Rivers and those names are Igbo. How did Igbos get their forefathers to abandon their ancestral Bini surnames for Igbo?

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by loveth360(f): 4:59pm On Oct 13, 2020
Ahamefuna0001:


They should be the ones agitating and not the other way round.

The damage has already been done, let them rectify it. I hate seeing Igbos been labelled land grabbers. We're bigger than that
Who told you we won't want to join our brothers across the niger.

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Coldie(m): 4:59pm On Oct 13, 2020
Misterdhee1:

When the stakes are down, hope you know una voice for that side is in the minority as usual? Best of luck antagonizing the overdue call for return to regionalism.
We have 6 geopolitical zones, 2 "SS and SW" at demanding for restructuring while the other 4 are against it, who here is the minority my friend?
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Misterdhee1(m): 5:00pm On Oct 13, 2020
gidgiddy:


The problem with this narrative is that nobody managed to tell us how those from Edo have Igbo surnames. Did Igbo also dominate them to point of forcing them to drop their ancestral surname and adopt Igbo surnames? Amaechi, Omehia and Wike are surnames of past and serving Ikwerre Governors of Rivers and those names are Igbo. How did Igbos get their forefathers to abandon their ancestral Bini surnames for Igbo?
But these guys don't want to associate with their supposed igbo heritage, why is that your headache now? grin

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Misterdhee1(m): 5:00pm On Oct 13, 2020
Coldie:

We have 6 geopolitical zones, 2 "SS and SW" at demanding for restructuring while the other 4 are against it, who here is the minority my friend?
You watch and see now wink
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Coldie(m): 5:01pm On Oct 13, 2020
Gordieshegz:



You have rightly spoken bro.
A better option will be true federalism where the present state structure controls its resources.
The present status quo is OK.

All we need to do is eradicate corruption and tribalism
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by IGBOSON1: 5:04pm On Oct 13, 2020
LivingSage:
12 States is NO NO.
How many states were in the South when Gowan created the 12 states? No, we can't accept such.


If there'll be any Restructuring, it should be Regional Government.

Let's go back to Regional Government, also dissolve this current 2 Chambers.

Finally, Our constitution needs to be rewrite to overhaul the inequalities in those institutions

Anything created by the sneaky muslim northern military hegemony should be dismantled! That would mean going back to the 4-regional structure, because it’s from there that rain started beating us! We go back to the 4-regional structure, and then start reorganising/restructuring things from there! Any attempt to listen to these crafty northern oligarchs would mean the south rolling over and accepting the criminal advantages they stole for themselves via the military!

Some people think they’re smart!

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Coldie(m): 5:04pm On Oct 13, 2020
Misterdhee1:

You watch and see now wink
We have watched and we are still seeing.

This is 2020 next year is 2021 we at still here
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Coldie(m): 5:05pm On Oct 13, 2020
IGBOSON1:


Anything created by the sneaky muslim northern military hegemony should be dismantled! That would mean going back to the 4-regional structure, because it from there that rain started beating us! We go back to the 4-regional structure, and then start reorganising/restructuring things from there! Any attempt to listen to these crafty northern oligarchs would mean the south rolling over and accepting the criminal advantages they stole for themselves via the military!

Some people think they’re smart!
Give me an example of the criminal advantage?

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by CioAngels(f): 5:08pm On Oct 13, 2020
Rugaria:
If the north leads the so-called restructuring process to fit their grand design again, the rest of the country should object. What I have learnt from all that is going on is that the socalled north gets away with all sorts of evil , simply because the rest of the country is docile. The lopsided state and local government structures in place today were all whimsically designed by northern army officers to favour the north to the detriment of the southern part of the country especially the east. They have more states, more local governments, more allocations, more senators, more....., it's endless ! Now, they are fearful that after Buhari, with the trends of political events, a real restructuring might happen, and they want to quickly effect changes to guarantee nothern domination for another century. This is wrong! It's either everybody is treated equally going forward, or the whole country should expire..
My thought too, I hope docile South will peruse their details before they pen anything on paper.
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Nobody: 5:09pm On Oct 13, 2020
subcbouy:
Things have changed. The same ND cannot follow Eastern region even if regional is to be created.
No one cares.
I am pointing out what the article says. As it where in 1967.
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by loveth360(f): 5:09pm On Oct 13, 2020
Juliusmalema:



You and who?

Imagine fighting another person's battle. Are you okay?


This Ipob of a nonsense has finished most of you beyond redemption and reasoning.

Terrorist organization.
But he is right.
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Merimental(m): 5:12pm On Oct 13, 2020
IGBOSON1:


Sad thing is, it’s the opinion of the latter that counts and usually carries the day! smiley

exactly. too bad
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by paschenko(m): 5:13pm On Oct 13, 2020
Sounds good.

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