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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by lymelyte(m): 7:18pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
Excuses:allow what? You think we are still in the 1960's? |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Ojiofor: 7:18pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
Bkayyy: Bla Bla all this new nairalanders sef.Comot for road make i see better people. 2 Likes |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by lymelyte(m): 7:19pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
engrchykae:return to who? Na by force to be ibo? Why are you scared of been alone? 3 Likes |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Obodogri: 7:20pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Ngorbungor(m): 7:21pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
lymelyte: Which you dey self, are you from the said group of people? You are the one been scared if you don't know |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by macjireh: 7:23pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
Fernandeswagger:I beg to differ...if d restructuring is properly done,there won't be marginalization... wat I will posit is that d representation at d federal level should be collapsed into d regional structure.. dat time a Governor will be like d President,,while d governor office now will be d office of d deputies,,so one one regional Governor will have several deputies from each state,,and there would house of rep and house of Assembly structure in each region to create more representation... at d federal level there would be just one legislative chamber(d senate),,,so how would there be marginalization? dat system will just too fluid |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by lymelyte(m): 7:24pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
Ngorbungor:I am a true-blue deltan..why don't you allow the people decided for themselves.. Must you choose for them? 2 Likes |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by gidgiddy: 7:32pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
Dminister: Anybody can claim to be from anywhere, some Igbos even claim to be from Israel. But no matter where one claims his ancestors are from, if the persons ancestral language and ancestral surname is Igbo, that person is Igbo It is left for the person to explain to the world why his ancestors migrated from Edo just to abandon their language and ancestral name, and adopt that of Igbo. 3 Likes |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by amliftedhigher: 7:36pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by samdunzo: 7:39pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
macjireh:If I may add, in a properly restructured Nigeria, the current LGA's will become like mini states making up the proposed regions... which will certainly put all talks of potential marginalization to an end |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Misterdhee1(m): 7:41pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
gidgiddy:You like wahala o. Person say hin no igbo, you insist he's igbo. Na by force? 2 Likes |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Obamaofusa: 7:44pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
omenka:Read to understand what he wrote. It sums up where Nigeria got it all wrong and without addressing these areas,we might be going in circles.You just don't blame your governors et al when the problem is systemic and embedded in the Northern-made constitution. I think it is better we go back to the regional system which was growth intensive but this time mid west combined with Niger Delta can be the fourth region.There will be competition amongst the four regions which will galvanize real and positive growth. |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Princewell2012(m): 7:51pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
Rugaria: Somebody said Buhari is going to be the last president. This might be true to an extent, going by his silence in this regard. I don't think that man would like to handover to anybody, apart from himself not even to the so called APC. Let wait and see. But God shall see us through. |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by macjireh: 7:53pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
samdunzo:exactly...there will be enough representation in dat system,, no stone will be left unturned |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Dminister(m): 7:58pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
gidgiddy: What happened when you are claiming particular people to be your tribe and they refused to accept it? Do you force it down their throat. People can only say they are not from a particular tribe because they know their root. I can't claim to be Igbo God forbid. I can only claim my ancestral root. It is well understood that the Igbo people are from Israel just like it is a well known fact that the Edo People are from Egypt. Go do your research before you start arguing unnecessary. 2 Likes |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by macjireh: 7:59pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
Princewell2012:datz trash talk...buhari may not even be in office till 2023 sef..after everything abacha did,,how did he end??.FYI God is very much interested in Nigeria,, BTW now and 2024 u will wonder if Nigeria can so much transform under d shortest possible time 1 Like |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by engrchykae(m): 8:02pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
lymelyte:umuezeokoha in benue are Igbo,stop being intentionally dumb. |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Nobody: 8:18pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
IGBOSON1:Is that all? |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Foookaaa: 8:20pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
omenka: This attitude of seeing everything North as bad blinds us to accepting progress. But for the 12 states proposal, there is not much for me to disagree with, and if I was being honest, Gowon's 12 state structure is probably one of the better compromises between our unworkable structure and the unbalanced federal structure from the First Republic. The two things the structure had going for it was the balance between North and South (South had Lagos, Western, Midwest, East Central, South East and Rivers while North had Kwara, Kano, Benue-Plateau, North Central, North West and North East), and that a lot of the states were responsive to minority agitations (Rivers, Benue-Plateau, South East, North East) or regional separatism (Kwara wanted to join the West, Kano vexed after Bello dethroned their Emir and Lagos was proud of its independent status as capital). Obviously, I think the motives of the 12 states were suspicious, and provinces like Rivers and Kano got their states, provinces like Sokoto, Bauchi, Borno, Oyo, Niger all started asking for their own states too. Also, Lagos and Kano as standalone states in this arrangement may have made sense in 1967 but not so much in 2020 I don't necessarily think I want Nigeria to revert back to the Gowon's 12 states but I think we need a balance between returning to autonomous regions for economic viability reasons, and ensuring that the minorities and ethnic nationalities are not marginalized like they were in the First Republic. I prefer the proposal that turns the 6 geopolitical zones into regions, although I think the eight zones or region makes equitable sense. The regions can modify the current states and LGs how they deem fit, although if it were up to me I would ensure each nationality in my region has a state or province, and then I would basically merge LGs with autonomous communities. 1 Like |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by gidgiddy: 8:21pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
Kirigidi: Then they stay in whatever Region they have chosen. Thats what referendum is for, to allow everyone to choose 1 Like |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Misterdhee1(m): 8:25pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
gidgiddy:Why should they undergo a referendum when their identity is never in doubt within themselves? Will you ask Hausas, Yorubas, Igalas, Kanuris and Edos to do referendum too to decide which region they want to go? 1 Like |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Ngorbungor(m): 8:26pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
Dminister: And if I may ask are you better then Igbo? What a stu:pid statement |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by gidgiddy: 8:27pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
Dminister: Someday, Efik people will also tell you they are from Japan. May be then you will ask them why their ancestors forgot their Japanese language and surname to adopt that of Efik |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Ngorbungor(m): 8:30pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
Misterdhee1: Why won't the Igbos in SS undergo referendum, let them choose where they want to belong, beside not all of them will go with the SE, but at least more than half will |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Jamesbiodun(m): 8:33pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
12 state structure? the north is trying to merge with the south for resource control, I don't trust them, but south politicians won't say shit |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by gidgiddy: 8:33pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
Misterdhee1: Of course. A Region should only be created by referendum. |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by gidgiddy: 8:34pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
Misterdhee1: Of course. A Region should only be created by referendum. Only those who have chosen to be together should be together. |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by sweetilicious(f): 8:34pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
Rugaria:So right |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by awgumayor: 8:39pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
Redcrafton:Only a fool will call northerners fools. They proffered 12 states to weaken the voices of self-determination and secession. They know that if allows the six geopolitical zones as a federating states voice of secession will still be heared. The way north fears breakup I don't think they will settle for anything less than their 12-states proposal. But that won't be acceptable by the Igbos, unless they start sounding political correct as usual. The 12 states was created to weaken the Igbos and diminish their land and that must be corrected. If Nigeria should restructure let it be done along ethnic and cultural line so that the issue of "we" south south will stop, everyone will mind their own people. 1 Like |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Misterdhee1(m): 8:40pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
Ngorbungor:But most don't identify as igbos in the first place. So why should they have to undergo a process that their natural stance is known? 1 Like |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by awgumayor: 8:48pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
Rugaria:According to bubu's mind, all of you are talking shit. |
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Ngorbungor(m): 8:53pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
Misterdhee1: Who said that ? You? Please don't just argue what you don't know, it's only ikwerre people that I know of, even at that they are divided on the matter, and we are not even bother about them, just two local government!!!, they should be worry about the Ijaw. But for others groups they have higher chance of joining the main stream Igbo and it will be better for them than becoming a useless minority group in the new proposed region. |
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