Rossnitti:


So now many countries do you suggest Nigeria invades and attacks to steal their resources or compromise their leaders while slaughtering millions of innocents across the globe, so we can increase our income to US levels??

Number of countries invaded by the USA:

''Americans have been invading other countries since before America was a thing, as early as 1741, when the North American battleground for the War of Austrian Succession was called King George’s War – one of the French and Indian Wars.

That’s a lot of wars.

According to Kelly and Laycock’s book, the United States has invaded or fought in 84 of the 193 countries recognized by the United Nations and has been militarily involved with 191 of 193 – a staggering 98 percent.''

https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/these-are-the-only-3-countries-america-hasnt-invaded/#:~:text=According%20to%20Kelly%20and%20Laycock's,193%20%E2%80%93%20a%20staggering%2098%20percent.


THAT'S WHY they are so rich. They enslave loot, kill, and exploit the world's people to enrich their country.

Nigeria will NOT follow that path to riches, because Nigeria is a DECENT country with GODLY humans, not mass murderers.

Rossnitti:


So now many countries do you suggest Nigeria invades and attacks to steal their resources or compromise their leaders while slaughtering millions of innocents across the globe, so we can increase our income to US levels??

Number of countries invaded by the USA:

''Americans have been invading other countries since before America was a thing, as early as 1741, when the North American battleground for the War of Austrian Succession was called King George’s War – one of the French and Indian Wars.

That’s a lot of wars.

According to Kelly and Laycock’s book, the United States has invaded or fought in 84 of the 193 countries recognized by the United Nations and has been militarily involved with 191 of 193 – a staggering 98 percent.''

https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/these-are-the-only-3-countries-america-hasnt-invaded/#:~:text=According%20to%20Kelly%20and%20Laycock's,193%20%E2%80%93%20a%20staggering%2098%20percent.


THAT'S WHY they are so rich. They enslave loot, kill, and exploit the world's people to enrich their country.

Nigeria will NOT follow that path to riches, because Nigeria is a DECENT country with GODLY humans, not mass murderers.

Starcrest1:


Soffri with the lies naa haba. No be only decent and Godly

Rossnitti:





Nigerian leaders are choir boys in comparison.

RuudVanNisteroy:

Nigeria has the worst leaders in the world that is why the youths want to take over at local,state and federal level in 2020. No single social amenity such as water,24 hour electricity,sewage treatment plants,drainage,social security,world class roads,hospital,security,public schools and universities the average Nigerian can boast off.

Yet Nigerian leaders are some of the richest in the world after looting the country blind.

Rossnitti:



NIGERIA is NOT UNIQUE in being a developing state.

T
This has created an impression in your simple minds that anywhere outside Nigeria is 'Eldorado'.

TRAVEL TO THE REAL WORLD, of Haiti, Peru, Venezuela, Libya, Egypt, Zambia, Iran, Nepal, Mongolia, Burma, Tanzania, Uganda, Ethiopia, Mali, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Honduras, Bolivia, Laos, Sierra Leone, Chad, Mozambique, Chile, Djibouti, Burundi, Barbados, Angola, Sudan, Jamaica, Paraguay, El Salvador etc etc.

THEN you will learn that Nigeria is not unique in its development state. That power cuts, bad roads, water shortage etc etc are not unique to Nigeria.

Perhaps that will relieve you of your perennial disgruntlement and inferiority complex, and it will stop you thinking that there is something fundamentally wrong with you just because you are not like ''Germany'' or ''USA''.

RuudVanNisteroy:

Nigeria leaders are the highest paid and the undisputed kingpins of corruption worldwide. The current leaders should rule for the next 100 years and Nigeria will still remain a failed state.

Rossnitti:


Abeg get lost. As if you wouldn't do worse if they put you in charge of Nigeria.

We have seen many like you come online to make noise everyday, only to be given a little political power, and become corrupt themselves.

So take your hoilier than thou self and go sit down somewhere.

Mr fingerpointer perfect. You be angel.

RuudVanNisteroy:

I was raised never to steal as a Christian. The suffering in Nigeria is to much, while some people cornered oil blocks worth billions of dollars and looted state resources and still gave themselves the best life pensions.

Rossnitti:


Are you the only one that was ''raised never to steal as a christian''?

Are half the leaders not christians like you?

Being raised christian doesn't mean when you get into office and see millions of dollars at your disposal, you won't be tempted to enrich yourself.

In fact being a christian virtually GUARANTEES that you will loot, since your bible tells you that once you pray to 'Jesus' for forgiveness, or ''accept him as your lord and saviour'', anything goes.

So take your christian bullcrap and stick it where the sun don't shine

It is even all those imported religions that have caused us problems. In the old African religions, you were held accountable, and there was nothing like ''forgiveness'' for corruption.

So I will believe and trust you more if you were a traditional religionist than being a member of all these imported faiths.

American leaders are 'well raised christians' yet they have sent invaded or fought in 98% of nations on earth to loot resources.

RuudVanNisteroy:

Do you know the same Christianity you're condemning preaches restitution?Which means all the properties, oil blocks you looted through fronts and all the money you stole should be returned.

Rossnitti:


So why haven't the christian nations of America and Britain restituted Africa and paid reparations for the 600 years of exploitation and theft of our resources, and enslavement of our people? All the trillions they've looted from across the world, why haven't they returned them?

See, Christianity ''preaches'' this and that, but there is precious little punishment for ignoring those preachings if you are a christian. THAT'S the problem.

RuudVanNisteroy:

Nigeria has never had a Christian leader.

Rossnitti:


Gowon was a christian. Obasanjo was a christian. Goodluck Jonathan, who headed perhaps the most corrupt govt in Nigerian history, was a devout christian. What the hell are you on about? Even Obasanjo went on to get a doctorate in theology.

Are you sure you're a Nigerian, because you're talking a lot of rubbish.

RuudVanNisteroy:

If you think going to Church is what makes you a Christian,then you are sadly mistaken, do you know what they do behind closed doors?

If they were Christians they would have tolerated zero corruption in their inner circle.

Rossnitti:


Were American and British leaders who invaded and looted the whole world not real christians?

Remember it was them that taught you christianity.

You saying you are more christian than them?

Don't kid yourself.

Truth is, any religion which does not provide punishment here on this earth for transgressions, WILL be flouted and abused by its adherents.

RuudVanNisteroy:


The Bible says "When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn" . Nigeria has been ruled by wicked leaders since 1960, there has never been a time the people have rejoiced.
The Bible is not referring to Christian leaders when it mentions "righteous", but leaders with morals and values.

Look at Japan,Korea,United Arab Emirates,Belgium,Netherlands,Norway,Sweden,Iceland,Finland. Leaders who ruled these great nations don't subscribe to any religion that provides for punishment on this earth for transgressiions. And they still managed to create some of the greatest civilizations.

What every society needs is "checks and balances" which Nigeria doesn't have. The institutions that should have created checks and balances such as the judiciary,police,EFCC,ICPC are all corrupt and that is why there is impunity in the land. You can loot billions of dollars and get away with it.

Rossnitti:


Dude, each and every one of those countries you listed is following their traditional religious and political systems devoid of foreign interference and colonial distortions.

That is why they have strong checks and balances etc.

Africa/Nigeria was exactly like that prior to the colonial era. Today we practice imported religion, imported systems of govt, imported administrative systems, imported economic systems, and imported social ideologies.

THAT is why we are struggling.

Did you see the article I posted recently about the ancient Benin empire?

British journalists did the research on 15th century Benin City, saying:

''With its mathematical layout and earthworks longer than the Great Wall of China, Benin City was one of the best planned cities in the world when London was a place of ‘thievery and murder’''

Benin City was also one of the first cities to have a semblance of street lighting. Huge metal lamps, many feet high, were built and placed around the city, especially near the king’s palace. Fuelled by palm oil, their burning wicks were lit at night to provide illumination for traffic to and from the palace.

When the Portuguese first “discovered” the city in 1485, they were stunned to find this vast kingdom made of hundreds of interlocked cities and villages in the middle of the African jungle. They called it the “Great City of Benin”, at a time when there were hardly any other places in Africa the Europeans acknowledged as a city. Indeed, they classified Benin City as one of the most beautiful and best planned cities in the world.

In 1691, the Portuguese ship captain Lourenco Pinto observed: “Great Benin, where the king resides, is larger than Lisbon; all the streets run straight and as far as the eye can see. The houses are large, especially that of the king, which is richly decorated and has fine columns. The city is wealthy and industrious. It is so well governed that theft is unknown and the people live in such security that they have no doors to their houses.”

In contrast, London at the same time is described by Bruce Holsinger, professor of English at the University of Virginia, as being a city of “thievery, prostitution, murder, bribery and a thriving black market made the medieval city ripe for exploitation by those with a skill for the quick blade or picking a pocket”.

At the centre of the city stood the king’s court, from which extended 30 very straight, broad streets, each about 120-ft wide. These main streets, which ran at right angles to each other, had underground drainage made of a sunken impluvium with an outlet to carry away storm water...

“Houses are built alongside the streets in good order, the one close to the other,” writes the 17th-century Dutch visitor Olfert Dapper. “Adorned with gables and steps … they are usually broad with long galleries inside, especially so in the case of the houses of the nobility, and divided into many rooms which are separated by walls made of red clay, very well erected.”

Dapper adds that wealthy residents kept these walls “as shiny and smooth by washing and rubbing as any wall in Holland can be made with chalk, and they are like mirrors. The upper storeys are made of the same sort of clay. Moreover, every house is provided with a well for the supply of fresh water”.

https://www.nairaland.com/6236042/15th-century-benin-city-finer

See? That was Africa BEFORE the Europeans came in to distort everything.

Many of us say that to get back to where we were, we need to abandon these imported systems, from christianity to Islam to the western systems of government we practice, which are all open to abuse here in Africa.

I subscribe to that view.

In ancient Benin, if the council of chiefs determined that the king was corrupt, they would order him to commit suicide. Same as in other kingdoms like the Oyo empire.

THAT was checks and balances the African way, and it worked.

RuudVanNisteroy:

I am beginning to see your point, we adopted a foreign system and that is why we are struggling. The system Nigeria practiced prior to colonial rule was not egalitarian, the Kings/Queens and their inner caucus held the most powers and cornered most of the resources. The average Nigerian didn't benefit from that feudalistic system of governance.

These same leaders you like to idolize are the same people that sold millions of our ancestors to slavery.

Rossnitti:


African leaders 'sold' 12 million Africans into slavery over a 400 year period, mostly war captives. Those captives would likely have been slaughtered had there not been an economic demand for them by Europeans. So it seemed to Africans to be good business selling them off.

European leaders slaughtered - not sold - slaughtered over 100 million of their own people in just the last century, in their European tribal wars which they deceptively termed ''world'' wars.

So no race is infallible or without blemish. The main thing is ''did the systems work?'' And on the whole, the answer has to be YES THEY DID.

There was no hunger and deprivation in pre-colonial Africa. There were no slums and shantytowns that lacked water and food. The monarchs held authority over the resources, but held them IN TRUST, not as their personal possessions.

Resources were distributed following carefully established guidelines, traditions and principles, such that no man lacked for anything or was overlooked, as happens in today's systems.

BigBashiru:


Ask anyone that was born in the 1930s 40s or 50s they will confirm it to you. The British came for trade and resources but they left the country in decent shape. The currency had more value - this of itself is enough evidence. They also didn't open fire on unarmed protesters....

Dedetwo:


At least, It had good roads, a person can travel at night without fear, there were railway lines across of the Nigeria, pipe born water in every city, no police or soldier molestations and most societal decadences were not rampant as seen today.

RuudVanNisteroy:

Do you have evidence or a source you can cite stating there was no deprivation in pre-colonial Africa. I see countries like Swaziland now known as Eswatini where the traditional institutions were left to function and the King is acting the same way as the corrupt politicians all over Africa. Corner all the resources and leave the people in poverty. I don't see Nigeria being different if we kept our traditional system of governance.

Democracy has been proved as the best form of governance worldwide.

BigBashiru:
The British left in 1960, just 7 years later there was a civil war!

The Nigeria of 1960 is clearly better than the Nigeria of today in all ramifications....

So the conclusion is that Nigerians cannot rule themselves!

tobechi74:
We were not ripe for independence

Rossnitti:



Hahahahahahahahahahahaha...

hahahahahahahahaha

hahahahaha


I always laugh when I hear people say or write stuff like this, steeped in utter ignorance and foolishness.

People whose grandparents/great grandparents under colonialism were STARK VILLAGE ILLITERATE PEASANTS, are here today telling us that THAT ERA was better than today, where THEY have become educated, exposed to modern living, modern infrastructure, by virtue of independence and indigenous rule.

THIS IS HOW COLONIAL MENTALITY HAS DESTROYED YOUR THOUGHT PROCESSES AND REASONING ABILITY.

At independence in 1960, AFTER 63 YEARS of British rule, Nigeria had NOT ONE SINGLE POWER PLANT.

Our first power plant was Kainji Dam, commissioned in 1964 by the Balewa administration.

Prior to that, any electricity you saw in Nigeria was derived from large industrial GENERATORS imported by the British, which they used to power G.R.A.s where their officials resided.

The rest of the country was in darkness. ...Well, not quite, as they used lanterns, candles, and palm oil wicks.

There wasn't even a national grid before independence!

Homes were not wired, so you couldn't use a generator even if you knew what that was and could afford it (highly unlikely).

We had NOT ONE UNIVERSITY at independence in 1960.

The closest thing we had to that was 'University College', Ibadan, a satellite campus of London university.

It didn't become a full fledged university until 1962, after independence.

Today, we have 200+ UNIVERSITIES in Nigeria, courtesy of indigenous rule.

Literacy rate in Nigeria at independence was 5%.

Today, that figure is 75% courtesy of indigenous rule, and massive govt investment in public education.

Today, if you are tired of Nigeria, you can get a visa and travel to anywhere in the world, work there and prosper.

Courtesy of the education you received in post-independence Nigeria.

Your grandparents, stuck in a farm and illiterate, had no such option.

They didn't even know what an airport was, where America was, where Germany or the UK were, or what on earth they'd do if they got there.

Today, courtesy of the education provided you by NIGERIAN LEADERS, even a village kid of 10 years old can lecture you on all these places.

In 1960 NO ROAD LED TO YOUR VILLAGE.

You had to park, or get off the bus at the nearest road to your village, and then WALK ALONG BUSH PATHS, sometimes for hours or even days, before reaching your village. AND NO, there was no okada. You HAD to walk.

Today, a road leads to every village and hamlet in Nigeria. It could be tarred, or it may not be. BUT AT LEAST THERE'S A MOTORABLE ROAD.

In fact today when the road is not (yet) fully tarred and smooth, you scream all sorts of abuse and insults on the government, and call them ''failed'', ''useless'', and ''hopelessly incompetent''.

THE AUDACITY OF YOU.

....To have forgotten how NOTHING you were, just decades ago.

In 1960 we had no expressways, flyovers, airports (apart from one in Lagos), etc etc.

Today, we count such infrastructure in hundreds and thousands.

If you were to be suddenly placed on a street in 1950s Nigeria, you would be SHOCKED at the number of children walking around malnourished, naked and barefooted, with a few cars ridden by the tiny strata of rich, and the middle classes in bicycles.

NONE OF YOU could survive in pre-independence Nigeria.

If you really think things were ''better'' back then, it simply shows the extent of your colonial indoctrination, ignorance, and absolute, utter tomfoolery.

Thanks.

Rossnitti:


I think this one needed another 50 years of walking naked on bush paths to be happy.

alphaRego01:


Mr man.

Are u trying to say Nigeria made a deal with Satan himself?


If so,we de citizens are yet to reap de benefits.

Rossnitti:


I've no idea what you're talking about. Personally I don't think you'd recognise 'benefits' if they walked up to you and thumped you in the head.

alphaRego01:





---maybe ur work in shell,or ur parents work there



-----maybe ur dad or mum is a politician or has been in the line of politics





-----maybe u might be a politician even





Certainly,u are not a hustler.because it is the sweat of de citizens in this country that is pushing it toward,yet with no benefits..u want to blame us for crying for Justice.evil

Rossnitti:


I'm not here to convince you to be positive. That's your damn business. What I won't do is be quiet while any of you ignorant kids with nothing upstairs tries to rubbish our achievements as a nation since independence, or claim we were somehow better off under colonial subjugation. Cheers.

alphaRego01:







U think u are God