4ckyou:


You can post without posting links

Rossntti:
COMMUNICATIONS TECHNOLOGY

Most of us believe we lacked proper communications before the advent of the telephone, and lately the mobile phone.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

We had long distance communication technology centuries before Europe. Simple but also complicated, and highly effective.

The Talking Drum

We use talking drums for Owambe parties today.

But do you know that the original function of the talking drum was long distance communication?

And I don't mean rudimentary noises made from one village to reach the next.

It was far more sophisticated than that.

FAR MORE.

The talking drum was used for individualised communication.

Do you know that every Yoruba man who got trained in this science, had his own unique talking drum 'signature' which took advantage of the tonal character of the language. and could be used to transmit messages directly to him in words he could understand to a distance of up to 160 kilometres?

He would equally return the messages.

He would be trained in how to build a talking drum wherever he was, if he didn't travel with one, to send his response back to the sender, in words that would be clearly understood, using the unique 'signature' of the recipient.

It was a kind of 'phone number', this unique 'signature'.

Once the drum was beaten, you would KNOW it was for you. The message would tell you who was 'calling', what they wanted, etc. And what the caller's signature was. You would then respond, using that signature. This could go on over a distance of up to 160 kilometres.

ctd.

Hedonini:
This guy has a penchant for talking absolute rubbish.

Hedonini:
This guy has a penchant for talking absolute rubbish.

rosstiti:
Note: This forum has turned USELESS for posting information with links. The minute you post links your account is banned automatically, and the post is deleted, so I cannot post the links to all this information.

Someone get the mods to stop acting like bushmen, and allow links to be posted on this forum, for proper dissemination and verification of information.

COMMUNICATIONS TECHNOLOGY (ctd.)

If you are a Yoruba man, and don't believe this about TALKING DRUMS, go to your village and ask the elders. They will even tell you more things you had no idea about.

''Niger-Congo languages are tonal in nature. Talking drums exploit the tonal aspect of Niger-Congo languages to convey very complicated messages. Talking drums can send messages 15 to 25 miles (40 km). Bulu, a Bantu language, can be drummed as well as spoken. In a Bulu village, each individual had a unique drum signature. A message could be sent to an individual by drumming his drum signature. It has been noted that a message can be sent 100 miles (160 km) from village to village within two hours or less using a talking drum.''

- wiki


Igbos used the ekwe for similar purposes, ''This is a cylindrical shaped drum, made out of wood (usually a tree trunk) and hollow inside. It has rectangular cavity slits and was used for communication over long distances. It can produce rhythms to connote anything from celebration to emergencies.''


That is why today in rural Igboland, the mobile phone is called ''ekwe nti' meaning ''the ekwe of the ear''.

Leave aside physical instruments, do you realise that precolonial Nigerians used TELEPATHY to communicate? This was a science for which one was trained to build thoughts and transfer them from their belly region to the belly of the recipient. Again, go and ask your elders in your village, and they will confirm this. This technology was known all over West Africa, and was used extensively hundreds of years ago.

A study of this African technology was done on the San people of southern Africa, foolishly termed the 'Bushmen' by western historians.

''...The African Bushmen communicate in a similar way. As anthropologist Bradford Keeney discovered, the Bushmen of the Kalahari Desert believe that all living creatures are connected by a silver stream of energy that extends from one belly button to another. The Bushmen use these horizontal “lines” like telephone wires to send and receive telepathic messages.'' Keeney, Ropes to God, 42.


In Ropes to God: Experiencing the Bushman Spiritual Universe, Keeney includes a Bushman’s description of this type of telepathy:

''You cannot send a thought to another person without first being filled with heightened emotion. . . . In this state you mix your thought, message or directive with your intensified feeling and make the thought a pure feeling. It is concentrated in your belly where the intensity of your feeling escalates to a point where it can no longer be held. Then it is released along the line coming out of your belly and directed to another person’s belly. They immediately respond when you communicate in this way. It may seem like we send our thoughts, but we are actually sending our feelings. Not weak, arbitrary feelings, but intense, almost overwhelming feelings. . . . A thought, message or request is changed into a feeling. . . . The feeling is the carrier.''

CTD.

Starcrest1:
We are talking about cyber rendering, this one is talking about talking drum and ekwe. Is this not shameful? The issue at hand is that OP is massaging his own ego instead of telling himself the truth.

Africa civilise, Africa civilise na for mouth o. What happened to the civilisation today or have you seen where people left a better civilisation for a crude one.

Bia OP no vex me o. The means of communication, health care system, technology, education and writing systems, even religion you practice today who gave them to you. Yet you open your rotten mouth and be talking rubbish.

Abeg take several seats.

rosstriti:


Go back and read how it works. You need to be smart to keep up with this. Each person had their unique tonal signature and only the recipient could understand the message even if thousands of people heard the drum.

Rosskivvyy:
I laugh when I hear people say that we lacked writing before the white man and Arabs came with their written text.

That we were ''illiterate''.

Do you know that it wasn't that we lacked writing, but that we had PASSED that stage of development?

Don't forget that it was us that invented writing, thousands of years ago. In ancient Kush and Egypt.

We taught THEM writing.

Just like we taught THEM speech.

Before we taught them speech, they were grunting like donkeys.

Which do you think came first, ''mama'' or ''mummy''?

''Papa'', or ''pops''?

.....Think about it......

To our ancestors in the 19th century, writing was a backward, obsolete form of communication open to abuse and distortion.

We had forms of record keeping and communication that were more advanced than writing.

Tell the mods to stop blocking my posts, and you will learn more.

illicit:



so in ur head, talking drum that can be heard by anybody and the code deciphered is better than letter which is confidential


abeg stop this nonsense....

Rosskivvyy:


Stop arguing against scholarship done over decades before you learned to pee straight.

The talking drum use was far more sophisticated and nuanced than what you know today. You had tonal signatures unique to each individual who was trained in the practice. That no longer exists today in common practise. It was more 'real time' than letter writing. It was 'instant messaging'.

'Letter writing' had its own indigenous forms. One form known to the Yorubas for example, was the practice of Aroko. We will come to that later.

You are hear to learn about your ancestors, not to argue with them.

illicit:



Your ancestors were happy to ditch..

all these nonsense u are praising here today....

during the Ekiti parapo war, several Yoruba generals used drums to announce their feats on the battle field.... such as Akinlola of Ibadan, the Ekitis used this against him by mimicking his war cry and drum beats .... it resulted to an ambush....

That means of communication is not safe bro....

Rosskivvyy:


No technology is foolproof, even today. Radar can be jammed by enemy forces. That doesn't make radar ineffective.

Get rid of your low self-esteem and self hatred and quit using terms like ''nonsense'', and such terms, or I will cease responding to you entirely.

This thread is for adults, not conditioned children programmed to self-loathe.

illicit:



cease the whole thread entirely, it's nonsense....


Grow up, stop living in the past....
The world has moved on bro


ciao

Rosskivvyy:


We should not study HISTORY because ''the world has moved on''?

Why not send a petition to all History and Anthropology departments and academia across the world to share this bit of wisdom, you little child with the brain of a grasshopper?

illicit:



It's not about studying history....


U were rather thinking Our crude history is better than our refined present and the glorious future


That's reactionary and won't do u any good


Will only make u a fanatic and non conformist....

Rosskivvyy:


This thread is about studying our state of technology compared to the rest of the word during the pre-colonial era, not about comparing it to today's advances.

This was pretty obvious to everyone else. Is there something wrong with your brain?

illicit:


No, it's you who has a malformed brain....


What's not obvious to u is that even ur Kings at that time procured cars and built modern houses with modern facilities and telephone.... They sent their kids to school....


Stop this nonsense

rosstiti:
Note: This forum has turned USELESS for posting information with links. The minute you post links your account is banned automatically, and the post is deleted, so I cannot post the links to all this information.

Someone get the mods to stop acting like bushmen, and allow links to be posted on this forum, for proper dissemination and verification of information.

COMMUNICATIONS TECHNOLOGY (ctd.)

If you are a Yoruba man, and don't believe this about TALKING DRUMS, go to your village and ask the elders. They will even tell you more things you had no idea about.

''Niger-Congo languages are tonal in nature. Talking drums exploit the tonal aspect of Niger-Congo languages to convey very complicated messages. Talking drums can send messages 15 to 25 miles (40 km). Bulu, a Bantu language, can be drummed as well as spoken. In a Bulu village, each individual had a unique drum signature. A message could be sent to an individual by drumming his drum signature. It has been noted that a message can be sent 100 miles (160 km) from village to village within two hours or less using a talking drum.''

- wiki


Igbos used the ekwe for similar purposes, ''This is a cylindrical shaped drum, made out of wood (usually a tree trunk) and hollow inside. It has rectangular cavity slits and was used for communication over long distances. It can produce rhythms to connote anything from celebration to emergencies.''


That is why today in rural Igboland, the mobile phone is called ''ekwe nti' meaning ''the ekwe of the ear''.

Leave aside physical instruments, do you realise that precolonial Nigerians used TELEPATHY to communicate? This was a science for which one was trained to build thoughts and transfer them from their belly region to the belly of the recipient. Again, go and ask your elders in your village, and they will confirm this. This technology was known all over West Africa, and was used extensively hundreds of years ago.

A study of this African technology was done on the San people of southern Africa, foolishly termed the 'Bushmen' by western historians.

''...The African Bushmen communicate in a similar way. As anthropologist Bradford Keeney discovered, the Bushmen of the Kalahari Desert believe that all living creatures are connected by a silver stream of energy that extends from one belly button to another. The Bushmen use these horizontal “lines” like telephone wires to send and receive telepathic messages.'' Keeney, Ropes to God, 42.


In Ropes to God: Experiencing the Bushman Spiritual Universe, Keeney includes a Bushman’s description of this type of telepathy:

''You cannot send a thought to another person without first being filled with heightened emotion. . . . In this state you mix your thought, message or directive with your intensified feeling and make the thought a pure feeling. It is concentrated in your belly where the intensity of your feeling escalates to a point where it can no longer be held. Then it is released along the line coming out of your belly and directed to another person’s belly. They immediately respond when you communicate in this way. It may seem like we send our thoughts, but we are actually sending our feelings. Not weak, arbitrary feelings, but intense, almost overwhelming feelings. . . . A thought, message or request is changed into a feeling. . . . The feeling is the carrier.''

CTD.

Rosskivvyy:

Lethal234:


You are derailing your own thread.

Personally I want to see where all this ends, but while at it stick with the specifics, take away guess works like Kush and Egypt.

The part of the communication makes perfect sense but needs more in-depth research.

Not quite sure of the totality of the talking drum but the telepathy was spot on.

That's what IFA diviners and witches use. The reason why this things were easy to swept away I think as to do with the fact there were no conventional schools in pre-slavery/colonial Africa, so when the whole shit storm dead down there were no pre-defined structure to fall back on.