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Prayer Is Not The Key by youngchopper(m): 10:32am On Nov 22
miracles happen when all human means of solving a problem has been exhausted , that's when God comes in to take the glory alone "jealous God".
Note.
if you have life challenging problems try as much as possible to look for solutions for your problems by your self and if no solution is been found that's when God will have a reason to answer your prayers.
example if you are sick sir/ma try and look for solution to your health challenges by going to hospital there u will find health but if hospital fails to cure your health challenge, that's when God comes in to take the glory alone.
my people suffer for lack of knowledge.
my kindid advice to all christains flee and run away from any pastor that discourages you from taking drugs that pastor lack the knowledge of God (wisdom).
for it's written in genesis that God planted herbs.
this is the word of God.
apply this in all your challenges in life and see if my God is not a living God.


authored by Attamah David chijioke
servant of God.
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by youngchopper(m): 10:34am On Nov 22
knowledge is the master key

Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by diridiri: 10:41am On Nov 22
so just do what unbelievers are doing except instead of luck you believe sky daddy will save the day
so god will let you suffer and suffer just so he can take the glory when life has already finished you

you christians eh...
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by GforGee: 11:06am On Nov 22
diridiri:
so just do what unbelievers are doing except instead of luck you believe sky daddy will save the day
so god will let you suffer and suffer just so he can take the glory when life has already finished you

you christians eh...

S/he is not a Christian and is definitely not quoting from the Word of God.
Prayer is effective when you have a precise knowledge of the Word of God. This simply means, now you know that if you ask (in prayer), you will receive Matthew 21:21-22 KJV
Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done. [22] And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.

In these two verses, the knowledge is having "faith and believe", the action is "prayer".
Please don't leave God out of anything.

Jesus is Lord. We win
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by youngchopper(m): 12:11pm On Nov 22
salvation is good.
we have a choice to choose btw poverty and wealth
if you want God to take u out of poverty u don't pray your way out of poverty but work your way out of poverty.
we only need God so as to help us in spending
if you don't spend wisely u end up broke
wisely is a word from wisdom and God alone gives wisdom.
the most poorest christians are poor not that they don't pray but they forget that prayer without work is failure.
No food for a lazy .
all my nuggets all have biblical backing.
if what ever have said here is false teaching pls prove me wrong with Bible quotes.
now back to the issue of luck
there is no such thing like luck every thing u have today is not as a result of luck but hard work.
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by youngchopper(m): 12:17pm On Nov 22
GforGee:


S/he is not a Christian and is definitely not quoting from the Word of God.
Prayer is effective when you have a precise knowledge of the Word of God. This simply means, now you know that if you ask (in prayer), you will receive Matthew 21:21-22 KJV
Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done. [22] And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.

In these two verses, the knowledge is having "faith and believe", the action is "prayer".
Please don't leave God out of anything.

Jesus is Lord. We win
prayer is simply a request
there is no power in prayers.
God answer prayers base on the request
if u request that u want God to bless u with money and u have no certificate, no skills, no talent and no business
that prayers can never and will never be answered. sir God cannot answere such myopic prayer. that's why Africa will always take the lead of poorest continet because we pray too much.
prayer with faith
what's faith
you start having faith because u posses some qualification to get a job so the faith is the skills u have that's what God will use to answer your prayers.
a word is enough for the wise.
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by youngchopper(m): 12:22pm On Nov 22
diridiri:
so just do what unbelievers are doing except instead of luck you believe sky daddy will save the day
so god will let you suffer and suffer just so he can take the glory when life has already finished you

you christians eh...


God's intension was not for man to suffer
that's why He gave man everything man needed in the garden
but man dissobeyed God
so that disobedience is what led man to suffering
now Jesus came to die for our sins (sin of Adam)
to earase the suffering
now
why are Christian's still suffering in abject poverty
it's because they lack the word of God in them
they so believe only salvation can take them out of poverty.
to be a true Christian is by studying the word of God but to be frank most chriatians are church gooers,
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by youngchopper(m): 12:27pm On Nov 22
lol I saw a reply that I'm not quoting any scripture
I laugh
the devil can quote scriptures more than the best pastors on Earth.
but since he is not a doer of the word it won't manifest.
even if u like quote from Genesis to revelation as long as you are not a dooer of your preaching it won't work.
thanks

some people may want to know why all this?
every thing we do must have a reason behind it
my reason is the rate of poverty in Africa is too much but we have the highest numbers of churches on planet Earth.
something is wrong.
you can't serve a living God and be a broke ass nation .
the problem is that we are hear the word of God but we don't do as the word says.
stay bless
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by GforGee: 12:46pm On Nov 22
youngchopper:

prayer is simply a request
there is no power in prayers.
God answer prayers base on the request
if u request that u want God to bless u with money and u have no certificate, no skills, no talent and no business
that prayers can never and will never be answered. sir God cannot answere such myopic prayer. that's why Africa will always take the lead of poorest continet because we pray too much.
prayer with faith
what's faith
you start having faith because u posses some qualification to get a job so the faith is the skills u have that's what God will use to answer your prayers.
a word is enough for the wise.

It is obvious that you are one of those who pray amiss. You cannot start praying to God for money, money is an earthly thing created by men, if you want money, then you earn it by the rules of the earth that created it - that is, by working.
If you go through the scriptural prayers, material things are not in focus, there are divine things to ask for in prayer. How about you ask God in prayer for what your purpose is in life? And from His answers to you, you can then know in what career you can venture into that you'll even make your earthly money from.
Pray that God should help you discover who you are in Christ, lean not on your own understanding Proverbs 3:5 KJV
Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by GforGee: 12:58pm On Nov 22
youngchopper:
lol I saw a reply that I'm not quoting any scripture
I laugh
the devil can quote scriptures more than the best pastors on Earth.
but since he is not a doer of the word it won't manifest.
even if u like quote from Genesis to revelation as long as you are not a dooer of your preaching it won't work.
thanks

some people may want to know why all this?
every thing we do must have a reason behind it
my reason is the rate of poverty in Africa is too much but we have the highest numbers of churches on planet Earth.
something is wrong.
you can't serve a living God and be a broke ass nation .
the problem is that we are hear the word of God but we don't do as the word says.
stay bless

The riches of God is not measured in human currency. Philippians 4:19 KJV
But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.
Note the phrase "riches in glory". It is not riches in naira or dollars, it is not riches in material things, but riches in glory.
Do not mix spiritual and material things, you will get it wrong. Like you have rightly pointed out, many people are getting it wrong. They think they can ask God for money. Jesus was a carpenter, He worked to feed Himself. Peter was a fisherman, and Paul was a tent maker. So, prayer is been used wrongly by people, and that is what you should tackle, not that people shouldn't pray. Even if you're going into a business that you know and are sure of, it is a good thing to ask of God concerning it, that's the kind of prayer that God expects from you. Not that you should wake up in a rolls Royce. Remember when Jesus told Peter to go and catch a fish and use the money to pay their tax Matthew 17:27. He told him (Peter) to go and work, the only difference is that Jesus had authority to answer prayer, so He had blessed the work of Peter's hand. Deut. 28:12, Job 1:10
And your assertion that the devil can quote bible, well, didn't Jesus use the same scriptures quoting to win over and rebuke the devil? Matthew 4:1-10
Jesus is Lord. We win.
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by youngchopper(m): 1:06pm On Nov 22
GforGee:


It is obvious that you are one of those who pray amiss. You cannot start praying to God for money, money is an earthly thing created by men, if you want money, then you earn it by the rules of the earth that created it - that is, by working.
If you go through the scriptural prayers, material things are not in focus, there are divine things to ask for in prayer. How about you ask God in prayer for what your purpose is in life? And from His answers to you, you can then know in what career you can venture into that you'll even make your earthly money from.
Pray that God should help you discover who you are in Christ, lean not on your own understanding Proverbs 3:5 KJV
Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
thanks for your beautiful reply
I have ask God for my purpose in life and my purpose in life is to serve God "preaching the gospel"
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by GforGee: 1:11pm On Nov 22
youngchopper:

thanks for your beautiful reply
I have ask God for my purpose in life and my purpose in life is to serve God "preaching the gospel"

Good. That means you prayed. And you prayed for the right thing.
Now, I would like you to encourage others on how to pray and what to pray for. That way, people will be out of their confused state.
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by youngchopper(m): 1:17pm On Nov 22
GforGee:


The riches of God is not measured in human currency. Philippians 4:19 KJV
But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.
Note the phrase "riches in glory". It is not riches in naira or dollars, it is not riches in material things, but riches in glory.
Do not mix spiritual and material things, you will get it wrong. Like you have rightly pointed out, many people are getting it wrong. They think they can ask God for money. Jesus was a carpenter, He worked to feed Himself. Peter was a fisherman, and Paul was a tent maker. So, prayer is been used wrongly by people, and that is what you should tackle, not that people shouldn't pray. Even if you're going into a business that you know and are sure of, it is a good thing to ask of God concerning it, that's the kind of prayer that God expects from you. Not that you should wake up in a rolls Royce. Remember when Jesus told Peter to go and catch a fish and use the money to pay their tax Matthew 17:27. He told him (Peter) to go and work, the only difference is that Jesus had authority to answer prayer, so He had blessed the work of Peter's hand. Deut. 28:12, Job 1:10


Jesus is Lord. We win.
thanks
we are on the same page sir.
I never said prayer is not Good never
we misuse the privilege of prayers.
for clarity sake
material things are very ensetial to human race
acquiring material things is not a sin and can never be a sin for even Jesus rode on the best horses
even Solomon axknowdge that money answerent all things.
most poor christians will want to cover their failure to have money on a Bible quotation you know that says the love of money is the root of all evil without understanding the meaning of that verse.
the meaning of that verse is.
when you go out of your way to commit evil just to make money. example of love of money. arm robbers, Yahoo boys, bad politcians, fake pastors and prophets, prostitution etc
any job you do to make money that destroys the payee at the end of the transaction is called love of money
stay blessed and may God almighty help every one of us with wisdom to understand his words
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by GforGee: 1:24pm On Nov 22
youngchopper:

thanks
we are on the same page sir.
I never said prayer is not Good never
we misuse the privilege of prayers.
for clarity sake
material things are very ensetial to human race
acquiring material things is not a sin and can never be a sin for even Jesus rode on the best horses
even Solomon axknowdge that money answerent all things.
most poor christians will want to cover their failure to have money on a Bible quotation you know that says the love of money is the root of all evil without understanding the meaning of that verse.
the meaning of that verse is.
when you go out of your way to commit evil just to make money. example of love of money. arm robbers, Yahoo boys, bad politcians, fake pastors and prophets, prostitution etc
any job you do to make money that destroys the payee at the end of the transaction is called love of money
stay blessed and may God almighty help every one of us with wisdom to understand his words

You're welcome.
I'm glad we found our footing in the same foundation.
The Word is easy to confuse oneself if there's no good teacher. But I pray like Paul in Philemon 1:6 that we may have a deeper understanding of our union with Christ Jesus.



Pass the next person a crumb and a drop, and the world would be great.
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by youngchopper(m): 1:32pm On Nov 22
GforGee:


You're welcome.
I'm glad we found our footing in the same foundation.
The Word is easy to confuse oneself if there's no good teacher. But I pray like Paul in Philemon 1:6 that we may have a deeper understanding of our union with Christ Jesus.



Pass the next person a crumb and a drop, and the world would be great.
I feel like blessing you with airtime if you don't mind
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by GforGee: 1:38pm On Nov 22
youngchopper:

I feel like blessing you with airtime if you don't mind

Well, I will accept your gift. Thank you.
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Pass the next person a crumb and a drop, and the world would be great.
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by youngchopper(m): 1:45pm On Nov 22
God did not create the universe with prayers.
He spoke his words and it came to life.
for the religious people the word of God is superior to prayers (mere request).
stay blessed
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by GforGee: 1:58pm On Nov 22
Thank you very much. I have seen your gift. God bless.







Pass the next person a crumb and a drop, and the world would be great.
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by youngchopper(m): 2:20pm On Nov 22
GforGee:
Thank you very much. I have seen your gift. God bless.







Pass the next person a crumb and a drop, and the world would be great.
may heaven be praise
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by Donedeal1: 3:15pm On Nov 22
"prayers is not the key"if you are not a believer because if you don't believe in something it will likely not make an impact for you.As for a good believer"Rejoice Evermore, Pray without ceasing"1Thes5:16&17
For our gospel came not unto you in words only but also in power.
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by xproducer: 4:47pm On Nov 22
Sometimes one may have to take physical action toward healing, but know that GOD doesn't need a person to take any action, "for with GOD nothing shall be impossible" & without GOD there is no healing, or life! - Luke 1:37

"In those days Hezekiah was sick and near death. And Isaiah the prophet, the son of Amoz, went to him and said to him, “Thus says the Lord: ‘Set your house in order, for you shall die, and not live.’ ” Then he turned his face toward the wall, and prayed to the Lord, saying, “Remember now, O Lord, I pray, how I have walked before You in truth and with a loyal heart, and have done what was good in Your sight.” And Hezekiah wept bitterly. And it happened, before Isaiah had gone out into the middle court, that the word of the Lord came to him, saying, “Return and tell Hezekiah the leader of My people, ‘Thus says the Lord, the God of David your father: “I have heard your prayer, I have seen your tears; surely I will heal you. On the third day you shall go up to the house of the Lord. And I will add to your days fifteen years. I will deliver you and this city from the hand of the king of Assyria; and I will defend this city for My own sake, and for the sake of My servant David.” Then Isaiah said, “Take a lump of figs.” So they took and laid it on the boil, and he recovered." - 2 Kings 20:1-7

GOD mercifully hears and answers prayer (Psalm 65:2), and pays attention to detail! "But the very hairs of your head are all numbered." - Matthew 10:30
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"Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus." - Philippians 4:6-7
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by youngchopper(m): 5:23pm On Nov 22
xproducer:
Sometimes one may have to take physical action toward healing, but know that GOD doesn't need a person to take any action, "for with GOD nothing shall be impossible" & without GOD there is no healing, or life! - Luke 1:37

"In those days Hezekiah was sick and near death. And Isaiah the prophet, the son of Amoz, went to him and said to him, “Thus says the Lord: ‘Set your house in order, for you shall die, and not live.’ ” Then he turned his face toward the wall, and prayed to the Lord, saying, “Remember now, O Lord, I pray, how I have walked before You in truth and with a loyal heart, and have done what was good in Your sight.” And Hezekiah wept bitterly. And it happened, before Isaiah had gone out into the middle court, that the word of the Lord came to him, saying, “Return and tell Hezekiah the leader of My people, ‘Thus says the Lord, the God of David your father: “I have heard your prayer, I have seen your tears; surely I will heal you. On the third day you shall go up to the house of the Lord. And I will add to your days fifteen years. I will deliver you and this city from the hand of the king of Assyria; and I will defend this city for My own sake, and for the sake of My servant David.” Then Isaiah said, “Take a lump of figs.” So they took and laid it on the boil, and he recovered." - 2 Kings 20:1-7

GOD mercifully hears and answers prayer (Psalm 65:2), and pays attention to detail! "But the very hairs of your head are all numbered." - Matthew 10:30
=========

"Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus." - Philippians 4:6-7
thanks for all the beautiful Bible quotation
but sir without faith none of your prayers will be answered by God I mean none.
how does a child of God build his faith?
by hearing the word of God.
which means the word of God is what it takes to trigger God to answer our prayers.
what's the word of God ?
it's wisdom.
sir stop disturbing God with unesscery prayer point.
when you apply the word of God in all your doings on Earth it paves way for miracle Job, money, good health etc.
Go and read the Bible to discover the hidden treasures in it.
we are all on the same page but we focus more on prayers here in Africa because we are too damn lazy to put Faith to work.
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by youngchopper(m): 5:39pm On Nov 22
my observation from this my topic is that Africans are too religious conscious .
religious is not the way to Christ.
you guys should learn to differentiate religious life with Godly life.
funny enough most of you feel that marijuana, cocian and natural palm wine intake are all sin against God. more over you guys consume all of this above without even knowing but taking it at it's natural form to u all is sin? my people suffer for lack of knowledge you can also help me with the biblical quote.
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by Kobojunkie: 5:39pm On Nov 22
youngchopper:
miracles happen when all human means of solving a problem has been exhausted , that's when God comes in to take the glory alone "jealous God".
Note.
if you have life challenging problems try as much as possible to look for solutions for your problems by your self and if no solution is been found that's when God will have a reason to answer your prayers.
example if you are sick sir/ma try and look for solution to your health challenges by going to hospital there u will find health but if hospital fails to cure your health challenge, that's when God comes in to take the glory alone.
my people suffer for lack of knowledge.
my kindid advice to all christains flee and run away from any pastor that discourages you from taking drugs that pastor lack the knowledge of God (wisdom).
for it's written in genesis that God planted herbs.
this is the word of God.
apply this in all your challenges in life and see if my God is not a living God

authored by Attamah David chijioke servant of God.
if all you need God for is to obtain miracles, then you are greatly misinformed.

God pours out His mercy and compassion on even the wicked and the righteous daily, so it is false to assume that miracles only happen in the lives of those who believe in God. Since miracles also happen in the lives of unbelievers, it follows that

1. A solution is possible without God, even if not guaranteed by God to be the best
2. A miracle is possible even without God's direct presence in the lives of those who receive His mercy and compassion daily.

If the above is possible, then why God? While I do agree with the notion that prayer is not the key, I don't believe what you have here is according to the words of Jesus Christ.
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by xproducer: 5:43pm On Nov 22
youngchopper:

thanks for all the beautiful Bible quotation
but sir without faith none of your prayers will be answered by God I mean none.
how does a child of God build his faith?
by hearing the word of God.
which means the word of God is what it takes to trigger God to answer our prayers.
what's the word of God ?
it's wisdom.
sir stop disturbing God with unesscery prayer point.
when you apply the word of God in all your doings on Earth it paves way for miracle Job, money, good health etc.
Go and read the Bible to discover the hidden treasures in it.
we are all on the same page but we focus more on prayers here in Africa because we are too damn lazy to put Faith to work.

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Faith is essential!

"But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him." - Hebrews 11:6
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by youngchopper(m): 5:50pm On Nov 22
most of you feel that prayer is a way of apreciating God's love. when you listen to people prayer in churches u will be maveled hearing the rubish they are telling God.
the only way to appreciate God is by testimony.
God loves testimony that's the glory he loves and not your constant request (prayer)
of your lazy request.
a word is enough for the wise.
even if Jesus come today and tells you the word of God without quoting a verse in the Bible
you religious people will still doubt all his preachings because of your African magic idealolgy of how God functions.
my question to all of you why does it seem like all your African prayers are not working
bokoharam has killed so much Christian's and it seems like all your prayers for shekarua and Boko Haram to die is not working
your prayers against bokohamr and shekarua will only work when you battle him with guns the gun is the faith that God needs to work with.
and not some lazy prayers
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by youngchopper(m): 6:21pm On Nov 22
Kobojunkie:
if all you need God for is to obtain miracles, then you are greatly misinformed.

God pours out His mercy and compassion on even the wicked and the righteous daily, so it is false to assume that miracles only happen in the lives of those who believe in God. Since miracles also happen in the lives of unbelievers, it follows that

1. A solution is possible without God, even if not guaranteed by God to be the best
2. A miracle is possible even without God's direct presence in the lives of those who receive His mercy and compassion daily.

If the above is possible, then why God? While I do agree with the notion that prayer is not the key, I don't believe what you have here is according to the words of Jesus Christ.
whithout miracle how can you convince a sinner that God exist.

miracle happens in everybodies life so as to prove to humans that God is real.
I no all of your pain is that I said that prayer is not the key. till the world ends prayer can never be the key.
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by youngchopper(m): 6:25pm On Nov 22
prove to me with Bible quotation that prayer is the master key! and I will pay you 50k.
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by Kobojunkie: 6:29pm On Nov 22
youngchopper:

whithout miracle how can you convince a sinner that God exist.

miracle happens in everybodies life so as to prove to humans that God is real.
I no all of your pain is that I said that prayer is not the key. till the world ends prayer can never be the key.
Jesus Christ warned you about those who will seek signs and wonders to be convinced of Him, or did He not? So what sort of question is this that you who claim to be of Him ask here?

Miracles happen in every human life because God wants it so. That you chose to believe it proof of God is all you and nothing more.
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by youngchopper(m): 6:36pm On Nov 22
Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ warned you about those who will seek signs and wonders to be convinced of Him, or did He not? So what sort of question is this that you who claim to be of Him ask here?

Miracles happen in every human life because God wants it so. That you chose to believe it proof of God is all you and nothing more.

James 4:3: “When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.”
This verse from the book of James tells us why God says “No” to many of our prayers—they are selfish, self-centered, and sometimes downright bad for us. Because God is wise and loving, like any good parent, he will not give things that will harm us or others.
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by Kobojunkie: 6:38pm On Nov 22
youngchopper:


James 4:3: “When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.”
This verse from the book of James tells us why God says “No” to many of our prayers—they are selfish, self-centered, and sometimes downright bad for us. Because God is wise and loving, like any good parent, he will not give things that will harm us or others.
That verse has absolutely nothing to do with your assertion in your last post and it stands contrary to your declaration in your OP.
Re: Prayer Is Not The Key by youngchopper(m): 6:38pm On Nov 22
50k is on the line I give all of you 10years to make a research bout my topic
who ever that convince me with a Bible quotation I must give the person 50k

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