Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by OpenYourEyes3: 7:54am On Nov 26, 2020 |
How do we reconcile this two verses:
1. "If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved" — Romans 10:9 (NIV)
2. "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." — Matthew 7:21
The truth is saying JESUS is LORD carnally, without believing, obedience and doing GOD's will won't save you. You have to believe in JESUS and obey HIS teachings in order to be have eternal life or be saved. |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by OpenYourEyes3: 8:34am On Nov 26, 2020 |
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Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by OpenYourEyes1: 7:28am On Nov 27, 2020 |
OpenYourEyes3: How do we reconcile this two verses:
1. "If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved" — Romans 10:9 (NIV)
2. "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." — Matthew 7:21
The truth is saying JESUS is LORD carnally, without believing, obedience and doing GOD's will won't save you. You have to believe in JESUS and obey HIS teachings in order to be have eternal life or be saved. Bump... . . |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by MightySparrow: 5:49pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
Let the OP expatiate more, the post is vague and lack thrust. 2 Likes |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by OpenYourEyes1: 7:46am On Jan 06, 2021 |
OpenYourEyes3: How do we reconcile this two verses:
1. "If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved" — Romans 10:9 (NIV)
2. "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." — Matthew 7:21
The truth is saying JESUS is LORD carnally, without believing, obedience and doing GOD's will won't save you. You have to believe in JESUS and obey HIS teachings in order to be have eternal life or be saved. Bump.. .. .. |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by OpenYourEyes1: 8:07am On Jan 29, 2021 |
OpenYourEyes3: How do we reconcile this two verses:
1. "If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved" — Romans 10:9 (NIV)
2. "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." — Matthew 7:21
The truth is saying JESUS is LORD carnally, without believing, obedience and doing GOD's will won't save you. You have to believe in JESUS and obey HIS teachings in order to be have eternal life or be saved. Bump... . . . . |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by OpenYourEyes1: 8:04am On Feb 18, 2021 |
OpenYourEyes3: How do we reconcile this two verses:
1. "If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved" — Romans 10:9 (NIV)
2. "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." — Matthew 7:21
The truth is saying JESUS is LORD carnally, without believing, obedience and doing GOD's will won't save you. You have to believe in JESUS and obey HIS teachings in order to be have eternal life or be saved. Bump... .. .. |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by OpenYourEyes1: 9:02am On Feb 21, 2021 |
OpenYourEyes3: How do we reconcile this two verses:
1. "If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved" — Romans 10:9 (NIV)
2. "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." — Matthew 7:21
The truth is saying JESUS is LORD carnally, without believing, obedience and doing GOD's will won't save you. You have to believe in JESUS and obey HIS teachings in order to be have eternal life or be saved. Bump... . ... .. |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by OpenYourEyes1: 7:44am On Mar 11, 2021 |
OpenYourEyes3: How do we reconcile this two verses:
1. "If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved" — Romans 10:9 (NIV)
2. "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." — Matthew 7:21
The truth is saying JESUS is LORD carnally, without believing, obedience and doing GOD's will won't save you. You have to believe in JESUS and obey HIS teachings in order to be have eternal life or be saved. |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by OpenYourEyes1: 7:27am On Mar 20, 2021 |
OpenYourEyes3: How do we reconcile this two verses:
1. "If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved" — Romans 10:9 (NIV)
2. "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." — Matthew 7:21
The truth is saying JESUS is LORD carnally, without believing, obedience and doing GOD's will won't save you. You have to believe in JESUS and obey HIS teachings in order to be have eternal life or be saved. Bump... . ... . .. |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by OpenYourEyes1: 7:40am On Mar 26, 2021 |
OpenYourEyes3: How do we reconcile this two verses:
1. "If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved" — Romans 10:9 (NIV)
2. "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." — Matthew 7:21
The truth is saying JESUS is LORD carnally, without believing, obedience and doing GOD's will won't save you. You have to believe in JESUS and obey HIS teachings in order to be have eternal life or be saved. Bump... ... . .. . . |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by OpenYourEyes1: 7:50am On Apr 02, 2021 |
OpenYourEyes3: How do we reconcile this two verses:
1. "If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved" — Romans 10:9 (NIV)
2. "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." — Matthew 7:21
The truth is saying JESUS is LORD carnally, without believing, obedience and doing GOD's will won't save you. You have to believe in JESUS and obey HIS teachings in order to be have eternal life or be saved. Bump... .. .. . . |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by OpenYourEyes1: 7:49am On Apr 28, 2021 |
OpenYourEyes3: How do we reconcile this two verses:
1. "If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved" — Romans 10:9 (NIV)
2. "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." — Matthew 7:21
The truth is saying JESUS is LORD carnally, without believing, obedience and doing GOD's will won't save you. You have to believe in JESUS and obey HIS teachings in order to be have eternal life or be saved. Bump... .... . |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by OpenYourEyes1: 7:46am On May 10, 2021 |
OpenYourEyes3: How do we reconcile this two verses:
1. "If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved" — Romans 10:9 (NIV)
2. "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." — Matthew 7:21
The truth is saying JESUS is LORD carnally, without believing, obedience and doing GOD's will won't save you. You have to believe in JESUS and obey HIS teachings in order to be have eternal life or be saved. Bump.. ... . . .. . |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by OpenYourEyes1: 7:55am On May 11, 2021 |
OpenYourEyes3: How do we reconcile this two verses:
1. "If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved" — Romans 10:9 (NIV)
2. "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." — Matthew 7:21
The truth is saying JESUS is LORD carnally, without believing, obedience and doing GOD's will won't save you. You have to believe in JESUS and obey HIS teachings in order to be have eternal life or be saved. Bump... .., .. |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by OpenYourEyes1: 7:53am On May 21, 2021 |
OpenYourEyes3: How do we reconcile this two verses:
1. "If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved" — Romans 10:9 (NIV)
2. "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." — Matthew 7:21
The truth is saying JESUS is LORD carnally, without believing, obedience and doing GOD's will won't save you. You have to believe in JESUS and obey HIS teachings in order to be have eternal life or be saved. Bump.. . . .. |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by OpenYourEyes1: 7:53am On May 24, 2021 |
OpenYourEyes3: How do we reconcile this two verses:
1. "If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved" — Romans 10:9 (NIV)
2. "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." — Matthew 7:21
The truth is saying JESUS is LORD carnally, without believing, obedience and doing GOD's will won't save you. You have to believe in JESUS and obey HIS teachings in order to be have eternal life or be saved. Bump.. ... . .. |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by OpenYourEyes1: 8:11am On Jun 18, 2021 |
OpenYourEyes3: How do we reconcile this two verses:
1. "If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved" — Romans 10:9 (NIV)
2. "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." — Matthew 7:21
The truth is saying JESUS is LORD carnally, without believing, obedience and doing GOD's will won't save you. You have to believe in JESUS and obey HIS teachings in order to be have eternal life or be saved. |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by Kingsnairaland(m): 12:16pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
OpenYourEyes3: How do we reconcile this two verses:
1. "If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved" — Romans 10:9 (NIV)
2. "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." — Matthew 7:21
The truth is saying JESUS is LORD carnally, without believing, obedience and doing GOD's will won't save you. You have to believe in JESUS and obey HIS teachings in order to be have eternal life or be saved. Only God can give you the ability to believe |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by Kingsnairaland(m): 12:17pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
OpenYourEyes3: How do we reconcile this two verses:
1. "If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved" — Romans 10:9 (NIV)
2. "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." — Matthew 7:21
The truth is saying JESUS is LORD carnally, without believing, obedience and doing GOD's will won't save you. You have to believe in JESUS and obey HIS teachings in order to be have eternal life or be saved. There is no carnal belief because it a spiritual thing not head knowledge |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:51pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
MightySparrow: Let the OP expatiate more, the post is vague and lack thrust. With the below comment: OpenYourEyes3: The truth is saying JESUS is LORD carnally, without believing, obedience and doing GOD's will won't save you. You have to believe in JESUS and obey HIS teachings in order to be have eternal life or be saved. The OP has solved the riddle half way, the only thing that remains is for him to PRESENT a group of people obeying and doing God's will! Jesus said "by their FRUITS you will know them" {Matthew 7:16-18} which means this people will be known globally for certain attributes! Matthew 5:13-16 So it's evident that the OP knows what he is saying but he has not found the group doing it! |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by MightySparrow: 4:09pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:
With the below comment:
The OP has solved the riddle half way, the only thing that remains is for him to PRESENT a group of people obeying and doing God's will!
Jesus said "by their FRUITS you will know them" {Matthew 7:16-18} which means this people will be known globally for certain attributes! Matthew 5:13-16
So it's evident that the OP knows what he is saying but he has not found the group doing it! The truth of Jesus is eternal, universal, not limited to any one age or parochial group. Except some deluded people forming a group of the gospel. And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, Rev. 14: 6 1 Like |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:31pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
MightySparrow:
The truth of Jesus is eternal, universal, not limited to any one age or parochial group. Except some deluded people forming a group of the gospel. And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, Rev. 14: 6 The bolded seems to be your point of emphasis but when God's Kingdom comes and the wicked people are gone PREACHING and TEACHING will end! Jeremiah 31:34 But for the main time Jesus' true followers will be known as they're zealously preaching and industriously teaching their neighbours throughout the earth! Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8 So the OP only need to IDENTIFY the group of people doing God's will now! John 13:34-35 |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by MightySparrow: 9:12am On Jun 19, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:
The bolded seems to be your point of emphasis but when God's Kingdom comes and the wicked people are gone PREACHING and TEACHING will end! Jeremiah 31:34
But for the main time Jesus' true followers will be known as they're zealously preaching and industriously teaching their neighbours throughout the earth! Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8
So the OP only need to IDENTIFY the group of people doing God's will now! John 13:34-35 Going from house to house, and teaching is not the problem, self assessment, content of the toxic teaching are the real issue. For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise. 2 Cor. 10:12. , 1 Like |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:28am On Jun 19, 2021 |
MightySparrow:
Going from house to house, and teaching is not the problem, self assessment, content of the toxic teaching are the real issue. The highlighted is where you got it wrong my friend! When Jesus said "by this all will know that you are my disciples if you have love among yourselves" {John 13:34-35} he was giving wise individuals clues on how to assess his true followers as a unique group out of all the people on planet earth! Matthew 5:13-16 For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise. 2 Cor. 10:12. , Paul is talking about members of the same group where status and class determines who is who not the difference between one group and another!You can't deceive yourself that all groups claiming worshipers of God are OK, Jesus never agreed with such {Matthew 16:5-12} so there is a sharp and clear distinction between false religious groups {Matthew 24:11} and the gathering where God's Holy Spirit is working out what is profitable! Matthew 7:16-18 |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by MightySparrow: 10:55am On Jun 19, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is where you got it wrong my friend! When Jesus said "by this all will know that you are my disciples if you have love among yourselves" {John 13:34-35} he was giving wise individuals clues on how to assess his true followers as a unique group out of all the people on planet earth! Matthew 5:13-16
Paul is talking about members of the same group where status and class determines who is who not the difference between one group and another! You can't deceive yourself that all groups claiming worshipers of God are OK, Jesus never agreed with such {Matthew 16:5-12} so there is a sharp and clear distinction between false religious groups {Matthew 24:11} and the gathering where God's Holy Spirit is working out what is profitable! Matthew 7:16-18 You don't seem to understand this 'love' thing you are are talking about. It is among yourselves but toxic to others. Every group profess ' love'. What do you think operates among fraternities? Illuminati, Boko Haram, Enkankar, Ògbóni and others? They are as JWS unique in their ways and have fraternised love. Your self assessment is mere delusion. Do you know that Reformed Ògbóni Confraternity use the Bible in their coven and meetings, claiming uniqueness, and specialily commissioned by God to execute judgment on Earth? Such claims as yours is only because of the confines and mould you put yourself. Outside the walls is a larger life. When you talk about Holy Spirit or God or Jesus, you talk about God you deny his works and interactions with human, ( a God you know only by your writings) not by experience. You show much ignorance much zeal. My friend, quit delusion. 1 Like |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by Image123(m): 11:18am On Jun 19, 2021 |
Jesus is Lord. i'm saved, alleluia. Lol. Of course, we must grow na. We must read the rest of the terms and conditions. |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:23am On Jun 19, 2021 |
MightySparrow:
You don't seem to understand this 'love' thing you are are talking about. It is among yourselves but toxic to others. Every group profess ' love'. What do you think operates among fraternities? Illuminati, Boko Haram, Enkankar, Ògbóni and others? They are as JWS unique in their ways and have fraternised love. Your self assessment is mere delusion. Do you know that Reformed Ògbóni Confraternity use the Bible in their coven and meetings, claiming uniqueness, and specialily commissioned by God to execute judgment on Earth? Such claims as yours is only because of the confines and mould you put yourself. Outside the walls is a larger life. When you talk about Holy Spirit or God or Jesus, you talk about God you deny his works and interactions with human, ( a God you know only by your writings) not by experience. You show much ignorance much zeal. My friend, quit delusion. My friend i've been to so many groups so there's nothing you can tell me about them that i don't know! When Jesus talk about LOVE he emphasized on two major aspects: First of all a worshiper of God must love his neighbour the same way he loves himself {Mark 12:28-31} this means whatever you expect people to do to/for you do the same to them! Matthew 7:12 Secondly a worshiper of God must draw the line between his fellow believers and his neighbours {Matthew 12:46-49} this means unlike the love a believer has for neighbours he must love his fellow believers the same way Jesus loves him, Jesus was willing to die for his fellow believers so true Christians should be ready to do likewise for their fellow believers (if the need arises) My friend that's the new commandment only JWs possess that no other group do! John 13:34-35 But please let's leave the matter because i can feel it that you're becoming irritated by this! John 17:14 |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by MightySparrow: 11:32am On Jun 19, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:
My friend i've been to so many groups so there's nothing you can tell me about them that i don't know! When Jesus talk about LOVE he emphasized on two major aspects:
First of all a worshiper of God must love his neighbour the same way he loves himself {Mark 12:28-31} this means whatever you expect people to do to/for you do the same to them! Matthew 7:12
Secondly a worshiper of God must draw the line between his fellow believers and his neighbours {Matthew 12:46-49} this means unlike the love a believer has for neighbours he must love his fellow believers the same way Jesus loves him, Jesus was willing to die for his fellow believers so true Christians should be ready to do likewise for their fellow believers (if the need arises) My friend that's the new commandment only JWs possess that no other group do! John 13:34-35
But please let's leave the matter because i can feel it that you're becoming irritated by this! John 17:14 Tell me more of what you know about Ògbóni Confraternity. |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:32pm On Jun 19, 2021 |
I don't want to make you angry because each time you are that's when everything becomes a DELUSION to you. I've been to their gathering several times because my former boss and commandant is a member. They only cover each other's back when there is troubles that's the only thing i noticed in their group apart from their strictly rules that comes with a costly price whenever anyone violates it. So it amazes me when you liken such a group to a global family of peace loving worshipers whose PREACHING and TEACHING program has taken away weapons from the hands and hearts of millions across the globe all in the name of God! MightySparrow:
Tell me more of what you know about Ògbóni Confraternity. |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by MightySparrow: 6:38pm On Jun 19, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: I don't want to make you angry because each time you are that's when everything becomes a DELUSION to you. I've been to their gathering several times because my former boss and commandant is a member. They only cover each other's back when there is troubles that's the only thing i noticed in their group apart from their strictly rules that comes with a costly price whenever anyone violates it. So it amazes me when you liken such a group to a global family of peace loving worshipers whose PREACHING and TEACHING program has taken away weapons from the hands and hearts of millions across the globe all in the name of God!
You mean love one another? That is fraternity for you. nothing special except what your GB conditions your mind to be. There are so many out there, are peace loving, philaotrophists, many endanger their lives to save lives- that you the ONLY loving people is delusion. in fact, the behaviour your members around me betray your claim. 1 Like |
Re: Will Saying "JESUS Is LORD" Save You? How Do We Reconcile This Two Verses? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:46pm On Jun 19, 2021 |
MightySparrow: You mean love one another? That is fraternity for you. nothing special except what your GB conditions your mind to be. There are so many out there, are peace loving, philaotrophists, many endanger their lives to save lives- that you the ONLY loving people is delusion. in fact, the behaviour your members around me betray your claim. I know you're angry now so i'll leave you for the moment! |