Barristter07:

The angels know the Father pass the son ?

Open your thinking cap bro

Nobody means no person . Holy spirit is not a person ... If it is, then it's among the NOBODY knows which is another problem . The more you drag this, the more you rope yourself

see mumu, because Jesus said no body knows the father except the Son, it means angels do not know the father right?

Nobody has seen God, at any time,

John 1:18
No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

It includes the Angel's, right?

Interesting

Nobody has ascended up to heaven, it included the Angel's right?

John 3:13
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Nobody recieved John's testimony, it includes the Angels and his disciples and even Jesus right?
John 3:32 And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.

1 Corinthians 2:11
For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

Only the spirit of man knoweth what is in man, that means God does not know right?

livingchrist:
see mumu, because Jesus said no body knows the father except the Son , it means angels do not know the father right?

Nobody has seen God, at any time,

John 1:18
No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

It includes the Angel's, right?

Interesting

Nobody has ascended up to heaven, it included the Angel's right?

John 3:13
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Nobody recieved John's testimony, it includes the Angels and his disciples and even Jesus right?
John 3:32 And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.

1 Corinthians 2:11
For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

Only the spirit of man knoweth what is in man, that means God does not know right?

@Bold , Matthew 11:27 includes the angels , Nobody in the universe knows the Father EXCEPT the son and nobody in the universe knows the Son, EXCEPT the Father. The same language of Matt 24:36 " EXCEPT the Father . Where there is only one person that knows, Nobody else knows , emphasis on " Except " . Or else that will mean two persons.

Barristter07:


@Bold , Matthew 11:27 includes the angels , Nobody in the universe knows the Father EXCEPT the son and nobody in the universe knows the Son, EXCEPT the Father. The same language of Matt 24:36 " EXCEPT the Father . Where there is only one person that knows, Nobody else knows , emphasis on " Except " . Or else that will mean two persons.

so the angels do not know who Jesus or the father is?
Yet they revealed who Christ was, at his birth.

Matthew 1:21
And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Who Jesus is, was rightly revealed by the angels.


Even the Demons knew who Jesus is

Matthew 8:29
And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?

Same knowledge that peter knew when it was revealed by Peter.

Matthew 16:15-17 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

How market barrister, you resulted to insult because you are empty and confused.

Jesus said in Revelation 2:17 that the new name given to overcomers will only be known by them.
Going by your insanity, even God does not know because he said the name is not known by anybody


Revelation 2:17
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

livingchrist:
Jesus said in Revelation 2:17 that the new name given to overcomers will only be known by them.
Going by your insanity, even God does not know because he said the name is not known by anybody


Revelation 2:17
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

A fool and blind that Jesus doesn't even know is here claiming what Jesus said of true believers.

Continue deceiving yourself, don't repent until the day you'd find out that He never knew you.

And you'd be sent packing to where your true master is, in the pit.

If you think such unwarranted argument that Jesus is Jehovah would save you, you have been fooled!

Don't repent. Be there arguing about things that have no spiritual significance until you find yourself in the pit.

jesusjnr2020:
A fool and blind that Jesus doesn't even know is here claiming what Jesus said of true believers.

Continue deceiving yourself, don't repent until the day you'd find out that He never knew you.

And you'd be sent packing to where your true master is, in the pit.

I know what I said on that thread hurt you so much but yet it is the truth.
Think about it carefully, dont allow the devil to finally destroy you. It is too late to cry when the head is cut off, Jesusjnr.

livingchrist:

I know what I said on that thread hurt you so much but yet it is the truth.
Think about it carefully, dont allow the devil to finally destroy you. It is too late to cry when the head is cut off, Jesusjnr.

You don't even know it's the devil using you, and that you're the one blindly working for him, so you couldn't have spoken any Truth but the lies of your master.

If you weren't blind, you'd see that the concerns I expressed on the thread were genuine concerns of someone that wants the church to do things the right way.

So forget about what hurts me and think about what your concerns are and whose interest you really represent here. I mean look at this your thread you opened. To whose benefit? Does Jesus really care about whether people see Him as Jehovah or not?

Yet you're concerned about someone who opened threads that reflect what really matters to Jesus.

Maybe you foolishly think it's by answering livingchrist, but don't repent, til you'd find yourself in livinghell!

jesusjnr2020:
You don't even know it's the devil using you, and that you're the one blindly working for him, so you couldn't have spoken any Truth but the lies of your master.

If you weren't blind, you'd see that the concerns I expressed on the thread were genuine concerns of someone that wants the church to do things the right way.

So forget about what hurts me and think about what your concerns are and whose interest you really represent here. I mean look at this your thread you opened. To whose benefit? Does Jesus really care about whether people see Him as Jehovah or not?

Yet you're concerned about someone who opened threads that reflect what really matters to Jesus.

Maybe you foolishly think it's by answering livingchrist, but don't repent, til you'd find yourself in livinghell!

@ bolded, first remove the beam in your eyes before you correct others.
Do you take corrections?
SMH
If you know Jesus you would have abided in his doctrine.

Matthew 7:5
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Romans 2:1
Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.

Instead Jesusjnr repent of your wicked ways of maligning and perverting the gospel of the Lord Jesus.

livingchrist:

@ bolded, first remove the beam in your eyes before you correct others.
Do you take corrections?
SMH
If you know Jesus you would have abided in his doctrine.

Matthew 7:5
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Romans 2:1
Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.

Instead Jesusjnr repent of your wicked ways of maligning and perverting the gospel of the Lord Jesus.

Imagine a modern day version of the hypocritical Pharisees like yourself trying to correct someone, do you think it would be wise to accept it?

You'd think same of Jesus that was corrected severally by the Pharisees but never accepted as refusing to take corrections.

You think it's wise to accept foolish and wrong advise in the name of accepting corrections.

Perhaps you don't know that the saying of Jesus was directed at the likes of you who are spiritually blind yet trying to correct those that can see clearly.

The gospel I preach is to make the likes of you who work iniquity in the guise of Christianity to repent of your wicked ways, but if you like don't repent when the time comes your eyes would be clear that you were only fooling yourself.

OK it's no more JWs that needs to know the identity of Jesus, rather two Trinitarians are now disputing over who knows Jesus better!

When i said there's no need wasting time with this guy he's just blabbing it might seem as if Max was joking. Now let's see how two Trinitarians agree first before they can help JWs (who are united in faith) to know Jesus better!

MaxInDHouse:
OK it's no more JWs that needs to know the identity of Jesus, rather two Trinitarians are now disputing over who knows Jesus better!

When i said there's no need wasting time with this guy he's just blabbing it might seem as if Max was joking. Now let's see how two Trinitarians agree first before they can help JWs (who are united in faith) to know Jesus better!

same way an atheist will also discredit the existence of God due to disagreement by theists.
Belief in God or trinity is not basis for unity for even the devils believe there is God.

MaxInDHouse:
OK it's no more JWs that needs to know the identity of Jesus, rather two Trinitarians are now disputing over who knows Jesus better!

When i said there's no need wasting time with this guy he's just blabbing it might seem as if Max was joking. Now let's see how two Trinitarians agree first before they can help JWs (who are united in faith) to know Jesus better!

All of them just enjoy masquerading under their usual “Jesus is Lord” slogan but when problem arises, you'll see them for who they truly are

Mechie onu gi there
You can even see the title of your thread—you want to prove something to Jehovah's Witnesses something when you've not proved the identity of your trinity god to your trinitarian brother that both of you worship. Remove the rafter from your eye and from your brother's before you approach JWs and start displaying your ignorance on NL.

livingchrist:
same way an atheist will also discredit the existence of God due to disagreement by theists.
Belief in God or trinity is not basis for unity for even the devils believe there is God.

Is Jesus a servant?

The bible repeatedly tells us that Angels are all servants (ministers) that do what God commands.

Psalms 103:20
Bless the LORD, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do his commandments, hearkening unto the voice of his word.

Psalms 104:4
Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:

Inother words, no matter the
highest position an angel or even a man occupy he is still a servant.

But what does the bible say about Jesus.

Philippians 2:7
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:


Jesus had to condescend to the position of servant in other to fulfill the father's plan.

It means Jesus was not originally a servant and what this means is that Jesus is not an angel nor was he originally a man before his in incarnation

Never mind Sir Jehovah's Witnesses are united globally and performing well as zealous preachers and industrious teachers of God's word, it's trinitarians that needs to agree amongst themselves first before you can think of convincing any sane person that Jesus is Jehovah!
Haba how on earth do you think a right thinking person can ever take you serious?
You called out a global family of peace loving worshipers trying to falsify their teaching but here you are you can't even agree with your own people. I purposely asked you to tell me the name of your church because it's a known fact that you guys are confused and divided on the issue so Jesus' words is fulfilling over you people he said "those who are not on my side will scatter (confused as in divided never come to terms)" Luke 11:23

Please first prove to all right thinking followers of this thread that Jesus' words at Matthew 12:30 is not about you guys by presenting a united family of peace loving worshipers performing better than Jehovah's Witnesses otherwise you're just deceiving your own soul, you don't have any business with Jesus, he is the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} and for you to prove you're part of his followers you need to present, point, show, tell us the name of your spiritual family of peace under Jesus' direction today!

You can't speak against a global family of peace loving worshipers yet you're here contradicting your own fellow trinitarian nah!

Haba please let's see how Jesus is working out PEACE amongst you at least for a proof! John 14:27

May you have PEACE!

livingchrist:
same way an atheist will also discredit the existence of God due to disagreement by theists.
Belief in God or trinity is not basis for unity for even the devils believe there is God.

The highlighted is a perfect description of who or what Jesus is for real!
Please let's here from the horse's mouth!
John 4:34, 5:30, 6:38, 8:28
You can now continue with your story Sir but try to correlate with what the person in question said about himself not what TRINITY infused in your brains!

livingchrist:
Is Jesus a servant?

The bible repeatedly tells us that Angels are all servants (ministers) that do what God commands.

Barristter07:
Matt 24:36 ONLY THE FATHER

The Father is how many persons ?

Where does it say ONLY ONE PERSON KNOWS?

Lying liar JWs!

Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and knows the very MIND of God.

Which means the Holy Spirit knows the very Hour and day, true or false?

Is this what you are reduced to ? Power of the truth.

For your information, the word " NO ONE and NOBODY " means NO PERSON. - Oxford Dictionary

See the idiotic quoting dictionary and when the same dictionary is provided, he will still be twisting it or act blind to it.

livingchrist:
so the angels do not know who Jesus or the father is?
Yet they revealed who Christ was, at his birth.

Matthew 1:21
And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Who Jesus is, was rightly revealed by the angels.


Even the Demons knew who Jesus is

Matthew 8:29
And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?

Same knowledge that peter knew when it was revealed by Peter.

Matthew 16:15-17 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

How market barrister, you resulted to insult because you are empty and confused.

You are just not wise . This means Jesus lied, angels know but Jesus claim No one knows except the Father.

To make matter worse for you, If nobody in that text means no man, it means the Father is a man

" No man knows the son, except the Father "

" No insect eat sugar Except Owl " does it make sense placing owl in the same category with insect's .

Emusan:


Where does it say ONLY ONE PERSON KNOWS?

Lying liar JWs!

Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and knows the very MIND of God.

Which means the Holy Spirit knows the very Hour and day, true or false?



See the idiotic quoting dictionary and when the same dictionary is provided, he will still be twisting it or act blind to it.

How many person is meant by ONLY the Father ?

Barristter07:
How many person is meant by ONLY the Father ?

The question for you since is:

Where does it say ONLY ONE PERSON KNOWS?

Lying liar JWs!

Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and knows the very MIND of God.
Which means the Holy Spirit

Emusan:


The question for you since is:

Where does it say ONLY ONE PERSON KNOWS?

Lying liar JWs!

Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and knows the very MIND of God.
Which means the Holy Spirit

Father is ONLY ONE person. Oya deny , make you enter Yawa

Barristter07:

Father is ONLY ONE person. Oya deny , make you enter Yawa

The question still remains:
Where does it say ONLY ONE PERSON KNOWS?
Lying liar JWs!
Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and knows the very MIND of God.
Which means the Holy Spirit knows the hour and day!

Emusan:


The question still remains:

Where does it say ONLY ONE PERSON KNOWS?

Lying liar JWs!

Except the Father. The Father is now many persons ?

Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and knows the very MIND of God.

Which means the Holy Spirit knows the hour and day!

Making two persons that know ?

Barristter07:

Except the Father. The Father is now many persons ?
Making two persons that know ?

The lying liar like your father the Devil
Where does it say ONLY ONE PERSON KNOWS?
Lying liar JWs!
Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and knows the very MIND of God.
Which means the Holy Spirit knows the hour and day!

Emusan:


The lying liar like your father the Devil

Where does it say ONLY ONE PERSON KNOWS?

Matt 24:36 The Father.

I dare you to tell me how many persons make up the Father .

Lying liar JWs!

Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and knows the very MIND of God.

Which means the Holy Spirit knows the hour and day!

And Jesus lied. Two persons know

Barristter07:
Matt 24:36 The Father.
I dare you to tell me how many persons make up the Father .
And Jesus lied. Two persons know

So no scripture says "ONE PERSON" that was just from your deluded lying mouth.
Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and knows the very MIND of God.
Which means the Holy Spirit knows the hour and day!

Barristter07:

You are just not wise . This means Jesus lied, angels know but Jesus claim No one knows except the Father.

To make matter worse for you, If nobody in that text means no man, it means the Father is a man

" No man knows the son, except the Father "

" No insect eat sugar Except Owl " does it make sense placing owl in the same category with insect's .

What a daft reply!

Matthew 24:36
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

If no man includes the angels, why did Jesus mentioned the Angels?

Jesus was only speaking in the context of persons the disciples were familiar with.

livingchrist:
What a daft reply!

Matthew 24:36
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

If no man includes the angels, why did Jesus mentioned the Angels?

Jesus was only speaking in the context of persons the disciples were familiar with.

That translation is fraudulent, do u saw the bold ? Not in the text .

Jesus didn't say no man, he said NO one . If left that way, the translator won't need that fraud

Emusan:


So no scripture says "ONE PERSON" that was just from your deluded lying mouth.

Comedian

Am I wrong that the Father is one person ?

Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and knows the very MIND of God.

Which means the Holy Spirit knows the hour and day!

Two persons , Ejor ... Jesus dey lie dey na only the Father knows ? This film dey sweet me

Barristter07:
Comedian

No wonder you've been laughing like a mad man since.

Am I wrong that the Father is one person ?

Two persons , Ejor ... Jesus dey lie dey na only the Father knows ? This film dey sweet me

Just as scripture dey lie say Holy Spirit SEARCHETH all things of God and know the very MIND of God.

Emusan:


No wonder you've been laughing like a mad man since.
Just as scripture dey lie say Holy Spirit SEARCHETH all things of God and know the very MIND of God.

Yes o na big lie If Holy spirit na person. Because Jesus don talk am say na only the Father , one person pere , knows.