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Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by iamDrRhymes(m): 4:32pm On Dec 13, 2020
kumulus:
I'm Yoruba and I believe the correct translation for 'destiny' in Yoruba is 'Àyànmó'.

I ask myself, what does this mean!?
Simply put without complicating matters, àyànmó breaks down as;

"To choose (yàn) and add (mó) to something already in place/existing".

Hence the philosopher said; 'Mans destiny is in his hands'.

Dangote sits atop the financial chain in the country today because he keeps adding to his dreaming new ambitions, Elon is making waves because he won't stop choosing newer ideas to pursue......... If as a poor man you fail to 'choose' to be rich and do what's required you shall remain poor.

In life, everything grows/expands/get better by receiving novelty. A man that doesn't desire a good thing wouldn't do the works necessary to achieve and hence shouldn't expect to receive the fruits of doing the good works.

It's astounding the wisdom we can attain IF we come back home


By the choices I make, hence my actions and/or inactions I Am.

Come back home and stop confusing yourselves by means of a foreign language.

Have a blessed week everyone and make better choices as you add to your life, this is the work, this is destiny!

-Lloyd


Thanks for taking your time to type all these. I have learnt something new.
Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by iamDrRhymes(m): 4:34pm On Dec 13, 2020
Gombecity8866:
There was this real life story an old woman told me those days. She said in 1940s, she was told by a native doctor that she has a very tall tree in her house and some individuals will try to cut
down the tree, but they won't be successful, meaning she will give birth to a very rich man, and no body will succeed in killing him and it eventually happened in 1980s, and I my self witness it. That woman is later now, her rich son is almost 70 year old. If not destiny how will the native doctor be able to see her's son future? Even one of the individuals that wanted to kill him was his uncle and he confessed when he was about to die.

Wow!
Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by iamDrRhymes(m): 4:36pm On Dec 13, 2020
vincentjk:
People often make statements like "no one can temper with my destiny". But that's a lie

When evil people see a child that has a good star, they can block or take that destiny away from them, it's quite difficult but kinda easy especially for occultic men.

Stop collecting things anyhow from people all in the name of things are hard, someone can give you 1k and tap 100k from you and this is very common in africa

Open your eyes and then you'll see what I'm saying very clear.

Please explain more elaborately on this.
Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by oluogbon0000(m): 4:40pm On Dec 13, 2020
Destiny is what Almighty have in stock for you and its a duty to fulfill your destiny

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Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by iamDrRhymes(m): 4:40pm On Dec 13, 2020
Cyrus77:
Yes scripturally, destiny is real. God has a plan prepared for you before you got here.
But fulfilling it ,is very optional because of the gift of freewill given to you.
For you to make most of it:
You have to know it exists
You have to ask for it
You have to take account of your natural endowment because everything points to a purpose.
Just as man makes nothing without purpose, so does God.
You cannot do everything and prosper by them equally
It also requires lots of hardwork and searching to understand your purpose on earth.
It is also in stages, as you get your self trained and fulfil a level, the next is opened to you.
If you decide not to work towards it ,which is your choice,you may experience some success but you may not experience ultimate fulfillment.
The pursuit of destiny is scripturally real.
For more Google Myles Munroe teaching on purpose
And lastly, destiny is very personal,so take this contribution personal.I wish you d best."He that seeketh,findeth "

Thanks for this contribution!
Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by Sent4rina: 4:53pm On Dec 13, 2020
seanwilliam:
stop saying nonsense.. the bolded is better than you in a trillion ways no matter the criteria you're using..
I understand u trying to make yourself happy but you took it too far haba...
I wonder why some people talk as if they know it all.
He said he's neither superior nor inferior to anyone and you're here saying tah. For your information, we are all equal in the face of DEATH(This alone is a pointer to his claim).

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Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by seanwilliam(m): 4:56pm On Dec 13, 2020
Sent4rina:

I wonder why some people talk as if they know it all.
He said he's neither superior nor inferior to anyone and you're here saying tah. For your information, we are all equal in the face of DEATH(This alone is a pointer to his clam).
you're not worth arguing with self.. u just open your mouth gbaaa without understanding shit
Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by Sent4rina: 5:06pm On Dec 13, 2020
kumulus:
I'm Yoruba and I believe the correct translation for 'destiny' in Yoruba is 'Àyànmó'.

I ask myself, what does this mean!?
Simply put without complicating matters, àyànmó breaks down as;

"To choose (yàn) and add (mó) to something already in place/existing".

Hence the philosopher said; 'Mans destiny is in his hands'.

Dangote sits atop the financial chain in the country today because he keeps adding to his dreaming new ambitions, Elon is making waves because he won't stop choosing newer ideas to pursue......... If as a poor man you fail to 'choose' to be rich and do what's required you shall remain poor.

In life, everything grows/expands/get better by receiving novelty. A man that doesn't desire a good thing wouldn't do the works necessary to achieve and hence shouldn't expect to receive the fruits of doing the good works.

It's astounding the wisdom we can attain IF we come back home


By the choices I make, hence my actions and/or inactions I Am.

Come back home and stop confusing yourselves by means of a foreign language.

Have a blessed week everyone and make better choices as you add to your life, this is the work, this is destiny!

-Lloyd
If Àyàmó is destiny, what is Kádàrá?

Pardon my curiosity.

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Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by Sent4rina: 5:11pm On Dec 13, 2020
seanwilliam:
you're not worth arguing with self.. u just open your mouth gbaaa without understanding shit
I'm not in for argument, I just want you to know that everyone has his opinion to make, and so be it.
Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by seanwilliam(m): 5:18pm On Dec 13, 2020
Sent4rina:

I'm not in for argument, I just want you to know that everyone has his opinion to make, and so be it.
it’s alright brother man
Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by kumulus(m): 5:23pm On Dec 13, 2020
Sent4rina:

If Àyàmó is destiny, what is Kádàrá?

Pardon my curiosity.

To be honest, I do not know what it means exactly but I suppose it should be along the lines of destiny as well.

Truth be told, a great part of the beauty of Yoruba language had been lost. Hence the ineffectiveness when communicating in the language.

Might we try splitting the components as we did with Àyànmó?;

Ká (We should) dà rá (buy individually).

Like something each must obtain/buy/purchase by himself/herself. I may be very wrong though, as I've previously stated I'm not an authority on the matter.

Bless your curiosity ma'am, hope you find that which you seek.

-Lloyd
Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by kumulus(m): 5:27pm On Dec 13, 2020
iamDrRhymes:



Thanks for taking your time to type all these. I have learnt something new.


Glad you gleamed a thing or two too. Have a refreshing end of the week.

-Lloyd

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Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by Ultimus: 5:32pm On Dec 13, 2020
Truthissupreme:
There is no contradiction.

You have a free will doesn't mean you won't have an end.

God knows the end yes, but man also controls his destiny completely.

It's like a scriptwriter knowing the outcome of a movie even though the characters determine the role to play

And that is not a contradiction? How do you justify that? A scriptwriter is the destiny-maker, not the characters.
Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by Sent4rina: 5:36pm On Dec 13, 2020
kumulus:


To be honest, I do not know what it means exactly but I suppose it should be along the lines of destiny as well.

Truth be told, a great part of the beauty of Yoruba language had been lost. Hence the ineffectiveness when communicating in the language.

Might we try splitting the components as we did with Àyànmó?;

Ká (We should) dà rá (buy individually).

Like something each must obtain/buy/purchase by himself/herself. I may be very wrong though, as I've previously stated I'm not an authority on the matter.

Bless your curiosity ma'am, hope you find that which you seek.

-Lloyd

Thanks.
The dynamics of Yoruba language can't be overemphasized.

I think what Àyànmó ni Kádàrá means is "What will be will be". Something like, Qué Sera Sera.

I for one belief in destiny and predestination. We can alter it through some metaphysical force. The world we live in is vast and concentrated beyond our reasoning.

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Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by Badb0y4lyf(m): 6:05pm On Dec 13, 2020
Truthissupreme:
There is no contradiction.

You have a free will doesn't mean you won't have an end.

God knows the end yes, but man also controls his destiny completely.

It's like a scriptwriter knowing the outcome of a movie even though the characters determine the role to play

You just said my mind the O.P was on point too. Using the movie analogy There is a Master Script and we all are actors or pawn in the divine scheme of things so if you are destiny to be rich u will be even if you drop out and go to Prison infact that prison u went is how you gonna make money in life. The choice we make can offset a different course of reality. That's why destiny is tied with time. If one can go back in time and change a certain important decisive event in time it will change the course or path of one destiny. How do we know we have free will yes we have the ability to choose yes or no why don't we think the answer we choose is also part of destiny life as a whole is rule by certain uncontrollable phenomenon. Chance, fate, destiny, time, Luck

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Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by Bliss955(m): 6:23pm On Dec 13, 2020
I believe life is a function of the choices we make.

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Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by enemyofprogress: 6:47pm On Dec 13, 2020
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Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by benwas123: 7:01pm On Dec 13, 2020
iamDrRhymes:


The concept of destiny and predestination has always been a subject for argument as some ardently believe in it while others don't, some others are just indifferent about it. I used to tell people that if destiny does not exist, then why does the word 'destiny' have a translation in most or even every languages? Yoruba people will always say that, 'the head that will wear the crown must eventually wear the crown'.

Personally, I believe that destiny is what we don't have control over, a path or a pattern a man's life trajectory must follow, an unavoidable end of a man either good or bad. However, I think that not all men have destinies to fulfill as some are mere victims and beneficiaries of choices, circumstances and chances. I will explain.

I see life as a movie that has both active and passive actors and God Almighty, the Creator himself is the script writer. I think that only the active actors, those who have a major role in life have destinies. Jeremiah 1:5 says “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.” No wonder people always say God knows tomorrow just like a scriptwriter will alway know the end of a movie he wrote.

The life of Jesus Christ is a perfect example of destiny and I belief many other people of old and present age are like that. Take for example, Goodluck Jonathan, how would he have become a president in a country like Nigeria if not for destiny? Destiny can also be an incurable curse and that's is why some people don't have the power to stop somethings about themselves (habits and characters) because they are destined for destruction. For example, some people will never stop arm robbery just because they are destinies to die by the gun.

On the other hand, can we say that those babies that were born and died immediately have destinies? Well, I don't think so, I will group them with the passive actors in life, those who plays minor roles in life (the waka pass). Some other lives are victims and beneficiaries of choices, circumstances and chances- those who the saying, 'your destiny is in your hands' fits. I belief this set of people are the majority in life. They can achieve whatever they want to.

Well, the above are just my personal thoughts destiny which are subjected to debate and reorientation. In fact, I have heard from an elderly man who is a strong believer in destiny that, some men are destined to have more than one wife no matter how discipline they are. Hmmm!

Now, do you also believe in destiny? If yes, can destiny be really altered by prayers and curses? And for those who do not believe destiny, what are your reasons?

Elders in the house, where are you?


‭‭

Do not be deceived! Destiny exists: You do not have to be a Christian to ponder over these words in Ecclesiastes 9:11

“I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, not the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.''

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Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by Mryacks(m): 7:24pm On Dec 13, 2020
Oluwaseun2020:
According to the bible the moment you connect with God... you have a chance to table your request in prayer...
Thats choosing your own destiny. .
Jeremiah 33:3
Call to me i will answer you

My take too exactly...

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Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by josielewa(m): 7:43pm On Dec 13, 2020
Sent4rina:

If Àyàmó is destiny, what is Kádàrá?

Pardon my curiosity.
kadara is fate...

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Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by josielewa(m): 7:46pm On Dec 13, 2020
kumulus:


To be honest, I do not know what it means exactly but I suppose it should be along the lines of destiny as well.

Truth be told, a great part of the beauty of Yoruba language had been lost. Hence the ineffectiveness when communicating in the language.

Might we try splitting the components as we did with Àyànmó?;

Ká (We should) dà rá (buy individually).

Like something each must obtain/buy/purchase by himself/herself. I may be very wrong though, as I've previously stated I'm not an authority on the matter.

Bless your curiosity ma'am, hope you find that which you seek.

-Lloyd

I think kadara is fate...your choices translates to your fate....like saying kadara leads to ayanmo like I explained earlier...cheers..I like your contributions
Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by josielewa(m): 7:57pm On Dec 13, 2020
kumulus:
I'm Yoruba and I believe the correct translation for 'destiny' in Yoruba is 'Àyànmó'.

I ask myself, what does this mean!?
Simply put without complicating matters, àyànmó breaks down as;

"To choose (yàn) and add (mó) to something already in place/existing".

Hence the philosopher said; 'Mans destiny is in his hands'.

Dangote sits atop the financial chain in the country today because he keeps adding to his dreaming new ambitions, Elon is making waves because he won't stop choosing newer ideas to pursue......... If as a poor man you fail to 'choose' to be rich and do what's required you shall remain poor.

In life, everything grows/expands/get better by receiving novelty. A man that doesn't desire a good thing wouldn't do the works necessary to achieve and hence shouldn't expect to receive the fruits of doing the good works.

It's astounding the wisdom we can attain IF we come back home


By the choices I make, hence my actions and/or inactions I Am.

Come back home and stop confusing yourselves by means of a foreign language.

Have a blessed week everyone and make better choices as you add to your life, this is the work, this is destiny!

-Lloyd
you can read this article too
https://www.ajol.info/index.php/gjh/article/view/79372

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Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by josielewa(m): 8:00pm On Dec 13, 2020
Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by iamDrRhymes(m): 8:03pm On Dec 13, 2020
Badb0y4lyf:


You just said my mind the O.P was on point too. Using the movie analogy There is a Master Script and we all are actors or pawn in the divine scheme of things so if you are destiny to be rich u will be even if you drop out and go to Prison infact that prison u went is how you gonna make money in life. The choice we make can offset a different course of reality. That's why destiny is tied with time. If one can go back in time and change a certain important decisive event in time it will change the course or path of one destiny. How do we know we have free will yes we have the ability to choose yes or no why don't we think the answer we choose is also part of destiny life as a whole is rule by certain uncontrollable phenomenon. Chance, fate, destiny, time, Luck

Nice
Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by kumulus(m): 8:05pm On Dec 13, 2020
josielewa:
you can read this article too
https://www.ajol.info/index.php/gjh/article/view/79372


Thank you for this good read, corroborates the earlier narrative.

Bless you

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Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by kumulus(m): 8:07pm On Dec 13, 2020
josielewa:
I think kadara is fate...your choices translates to your fate....like saying kadara leads to ayanmo like I explained earlier...cheers..I like your contributions



Choices translate to fate which in the end is man's destiny....hmm


Cheers

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Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by kumulus(m): 8:14pm On Dec 13, 2020
Sent4rina:

Thanks.
The dynamics of Yoruba language can't be overemphasized.

I think what Àyànmó ni Kádàrá means is "What will be will be". Something like, Qué Sera Sera.

I for one belief in destiny and predestination. We can alter it through some metaphysical force. The world we live in is vast and concentrated beyond our reasoning.


From josielewa's input, I think àyànmó ni kádàrá would translate loosely as "Choices makes our fate". Hence, putting it in context Que Sera Sera does carry similar undertones, so yes!

-Lloyd

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Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by Kenneygirl(f): 8:31pm On Dec 13, 2020
iamDrRhymes:


Yes, it is like that sadly.
angry very sad

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Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by Sunnyja: 12:22pm On Dec 14, 2020
thesilentman:

I disagree with you.Destiny was never a matter of choice.Infact,it's Your destiny that pushes you to make the choices you make.Did Jesus decided on his own to die on the cross?
The death of Christ on the cross was as a result of the choices Adam and Eve made in the garden of Eden. If it's destiny, can we now say once again that Adam and Eve were destined to disobey God?!
Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by thesilentman(m): 4:39pm On Dec 14, 2020
Sunnyja:
The death of Christ on the cross was as a result of the choices Adam and Eve made in the garden of Eden. If it's destiny, can we now say once again that Adam and Eve were destined to disobey God?!
Wow,i like this question.
Some people lament today that if only Adam and Eve did not disobey God,i.e by eating the forbidden fruit.Let me make it clear to you that everything that happens in our world today-whether good or bad-is exactly the way the almighty God wanted it to be.Imagine when there was war in heaven and the devil was casted down to the earth.And for what?To come and be tormenting the people of the earth.Why did God not kill him outrightly?
See,if I continue to expose what i know about destiny here,some people will lose interest in God at the end of the day.

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Re: Do You Really Believe In Destiny? by thesilentman(m): 4:57pm On Dec 14, 2020
iamDrRhymes:



Thanks for taking your time to type all these. I have learnt something new.
Sorry to say,you have only learnt assumptions.Nobody's destiny is in their hands.They talk about one's destiny being in one's hand.But the fact is that it's this same destiny that pushes you to make the choices you make.We are living in a spiritually programmed world.I can prove to you that everything that is happening in our world today is exactly how God planned it.As human beings,we can only strive and pray for a better life.

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