Justcash:

[b]LOL! It is funny to see how some Nigerian Yorubas are trying hard to feel like Europeans and Americans just to exhibit their hatred for Eastern Nigeria. Do you know that When you move from Lagos state to Imo state, you will feel a real breath of fresh air? Ok let's do it like this,

Apart from Lagos state, Which other state's capital in the West is comparable to Owerri, Enugu, and Umuahia in terms of cleanliness and urban development?
Do you know that in terms of Juju (Rituals), no Eastern city or state is comparable to Ijebu ode alone?
Do you know that the Crime rate in Lagos alone is far more than that of any of the South Eastern states?
Where d'heck did you hear that Igbos eat foreigners? If it is about history, did Yorubaland not have Cannibals?
Do you know that talking of the Eastern region as a whole (Including Rivers, CRS and AKS), the most naturally beautiful cities in Nigeria (Not built with oil money) are in the East?
The most Nigerianised, widely traveled and welcoming Nigerians are from the East. Unlike the West and North that always descend on Easterners for no just course, Easterners exercise extreme restraint about that, because life is valuable to us. The last time we attacked Northern Muslims was because truck loads of dead Easterners that were killed in the North arrived in the East, and caused some retaliation. That was the first ever in the history of the East.

Please tell me if the Cities (Glorified villages) in Ondo, Ogun, Oyo and Ekiti (Lagos is a more National state due to its former fed. capital status) is comparable to those in Imo, Abia, Enugu and Anambra.
If Oyibo dey read this stuff now, in go think say we dey talk of the West as in America and co, not knowing that it is about some glorified slums and villages in western Nigeria. Sigh.
No insult intended. I am stating facts. I travel from the West (Lagos) to the East (Owerri) to have a breath of fresh air, have peace of mind, enjoy and rest from all the Hustling and bustling, red eyes and strong faces. I am always in an "Ngwori " mood in ala Owerri, and we spray cash in that mood, yet no one approaches us as an alaye to tax us, talkless of kidnapping me. Small boys kidnap rich people in the East to siphon money, but when the gong sounds, they leave their victims and run. They don't slaughter them. Anyway, there is no more kidnapping in the East.
If you don't wish to come to the East, then fine. We won't know that you exist. Just don't complain about us coming to the West. that is where we will have some problems with you.[/b]

ekt_bear:

What exactly is going on here

If I don't want to visit the SE, I have "hatred for Eastern Nigeria"? Look, Calabar is fine, I'd like to visit there. Port Harcourt is a swell city, I like it too. But me not having much interest in going to the SE means I'm hating "Eastern Nigeria"?

When did it become by force to go there?

Do ya'll work for the ministry of tourism, or something?  Why the defensiveness and insecurity? Digressing into stories about "extreme restraint", etc.

If you like it better than the SW (or elsewhere in naija), fine. . . nothing spoil.

Man, next some dude from Utah is going to tell me I'm racist against Mormons because I've no interest in going there. . . when did the world start revolving around you

ekt_bear:

What exactly is going on here

If I don't want to visit the SE, I have "hatred for Eastern Nigeria"? Look, Calabar is fine, I'd like to visit there. Port Harcourt is a swell city, I like it too. But me not having much interest in going to the SE means I'm hating "Eastern Nigeria"?

When did it become by force to go there?

Do ya'll work for the ministry of tourism, or something?  Why the defensiveness and insecurity? Digressing into stories about "extreme restraint", etc.

If you like it better than the SW (or elsewhere in naija), fine. . . nothing spoil.

Man, next some dude from Utah is going to tell me I'm racist against Mormons because I've no interest in going there. . . when did the world start revolving around you

sbeezy8:

WE LOVE OUR "GLORIFIED VILLAGES" fine

ah ah is it by force to wanna live in the East?

my brother I live on the East coast  America and I dont plan on living on the west coast or down south(aside from Miami and ATL) ! lol I dont know what the big deal is

I like Calabar too not PH tho BUT I DONT PLAN ON LIVING AND INVESTING IN EITHER AREA LOL

Nah, I dint say that it is by force for you to live in or visit the East. I am just saying that you guys should stop talking as if the West is any better.

Where you wish to visit, live and invest is totally your choice. I aint canvassing for you to come to the East. why should I? it's not like you will make any difference. 

Justcash:

Nah, I dint say that it is by force for you to live in or visit the East. I am just saying that you guys should stop talking as if the West is any better.

Where you wish to visit, live and invest is totally your choice. I aint canvassing for you to come to the East. why should I? it's not like you will make any difference.

sbeezy8:

exactly why i think the West is better cause I know I can make a difference 

If ibo think east is better I wont even argue Id be like ok. great lol I think the west IS better. but thats my personal opinion.

ekt_bear:

@sbeezy8:

I feel you. There are like 5 or 10 cities in the US which I'd consider settling longterm. Imagine if some jackass wants me to add names to the list just to massage his ego?

People have a lot of gall. If you don't like, go hug a transformer

jason123:

Its like Yorubas are very proud of themselves and their acheivements   . Please guys, be humble. Humble yourselves. The Igbos are your brothers. Forget this internet wars. The truth is that, an economy with with a workable relationship between igbos and yorubas will be anybody's dream especially the us in the SS. Do you know that SS has suffered because you so-called big brother ethnic groups cannot work out the best interest of the South Take a look at the North, they do not discriminate against themselves because they see each other as one. Take a look at Alj Harem, Abu-mayram etc and how they defend the North NOT Hausa or Fulani or Kanuri but the North!!! Yes, the yorubas have their brothers across the border and all but what will it take to include igbos in this family

The Igbos are also very independent and proud  but what will it take to trust the Yorubas If its the civil war, every group has their own story to make them look goo to the world but lets reason here, the war was fought but 3 Brothers about 45 yrs ago and the other 2 brothers reconciled with their third brother. This war was fought by our fathers and grand fathers not US. We are the new generation filled with energy and pride. We have intermixed so much that our founding fathers will never believe it could happen. We are Nigerian and PROUD!!! Whether igbo, yoruba we are one with a common interest but different approach. I have Igbo "brothers" and Yoruba "brothers" and we see each other as Nigerians not ethnic groups.

About Lagos, Lagos is Yoruba land in Nigeria whether you like it or not. But it is also the Nigeria we never had. It is a place were everyone drops their identity and become Lagosians. It is a de-tribalised city with every ethnic group in Nigeria in it. With that said, we should also make efforts not to disturb the peace by increasing the insecurity levels among locals.

I am a proud Nigerian!!!!

jason123:

Its like Yorubas are very proud of themselves and their acheivements   . Please guys, be humble. Humble yourselves.

Justcash:

Good that you noted that IT IS YOUR PERSONAL OPINION.  If I may ask, what do you have to offer that an Easterner does not have? Lol! Do you know that the Easterners move to Lagos State to gain competitive advantage? Everything is in the East, so we move to the west to take advantage of the lack of competition from Westerners in the West.

sbeezy8:

great do you know why westerners stay in the west? because we can sit in the west and still be billionaires LOL. I dont care about compeitition people I know are trying to trade stocks and investment bankers, Oil Telecoms def not worried about competition "trading goods" thats what yoruba women do LOL.

I mean Guys dont even need to be in Lagos I can be based in Ibadan or Akure

Obatoil oil chairman is Based in his TOWN WHERE HES OBA. LOL but hes a billionaire. keep coming to the west Only making dudes like Adenuga, Okoya, Folawiyo, kola daisi, Otudeko, Jimoh, richer because they dont trade they own coporations, stocks, investment banking. - to a yoruba thats whats popping not compeition among alaba workers

Justcash:

Left for me o! I hope the newly discovered gas can convince western Nigerians to seek for their own country. We need to divide, especially if we cannot unite. There is nothing like "Divided unity". Ndi Igbo don't need natural gas to progress. We need good leadership, which we can enforce.
IT IS ONE NIGERIA OR NO NIGERIA! NOT OIL AND GAS ONE NIGERIA, MIGRATION NO NIGERIA!!

Alj Uche:

haba is that not too much

u think say na only you get lagos

we have igbos, SS and northerners that have made it in lagos eg dangote etc

why are you people getting above yourselves

i would start laying clim to lagos as well ooo

sbeezy8:

great do you know why westerners stay in the west? because we can sit in the west and still be billionaires LOL. I dont care about compeitition people I know are trying to trade stocks and investment bankers, Oil Telecoms def not worried about competition "trading goods" thats what yoruba women do LOL.

I mean Guys dont even need to be in Lagos I can be based in Ibadan or Akure

Obatoil oil chairman is Based in his TOWN WHERE HES OBA. LOL but hes a billionaire. keep coming to the west Only making dudes like Adenuga, Okoya, Folawiyo, kola daisi, Otudeko, Jimoh, richer because they dont trade they own coporations, stocks, investment banking. - to a yoruba thats whats popping not compeition among alaba workers

ekt_bear:

^-- Ultimately, people just have different objectives in life. Probably about 4-5 years ago, I wanted to be a professor of some sort. If I went down that route, I'd likely top out at $150-200k a year (at least in pure salary, not mentioning any side gigs/investments.)

However, recently I've decided I'd instead rather focus on making money. I'll (hopefully) top out at at least an order magnitude more in annual salary.

There is nothing wrong with either option. If one prioritizes money (as I do now), fine and well. If something else (like I did before), also good.

sbeezy8:

If alaba boys made more money than I doubt they would even be at Alaba

ekt_bear:

Volume sorts of things like retail, trading, etc can be pretty profitable. Imagine doing $1 million worth of merchandise a week, having a gross profit margin of 1% (which is fairly small.)

Trading has a bad rep amongst Yoruba, but if you do the math can be pretty good. . . assuming you can get the volume.

Justcash:

[b]Well, we are not talking about billionaires here, or stocks. I am trying to tell you that Igbos move to Lagos state to take advantage of the lack of competition from Yorubas. Average Yorubas don't trade as much as average Igbos. This is why Igbos may not have the richest people in Nigeria, but in terms of spread of wealth (As in number of millionaires), Igbos cannot be competed with.
We trade, make money, pick up young Igbo youths to teach them how to trade, then we settle them off with capital for them to go and become wealthy too and touch the lives of the younger generation of Igbos. That is the cycle. Average Igbos are rich. We have " plenty Cashmoney" because we do the raw business. Even very educated Igbos like me still settle for biz. After doing my masters in the UK, all my fellow Nigerian graduates that were mainly Yorubas decided to work or lecture to earn pounds. I left them and flew to Asia to do biz. You cannot compare the Pound to Yen or Yuan remimbi, but still I make 10 times more money than them. I even took some boys from my hometown to teach them the biz, and they are now earning far more than my Yoruba mates that took jobs and lecturing careers. Not that what they did is bad. I may not be the richest man in Nigeria, but I gat Cash. I have also made several families to make the same cash. That is the story of average Igbos. 
So it is not really about having billionaires, it is about the spread of wealth and comfort. I cannot be using Emeka offor and Ibeto to make a point when I can use myself to do same. Those Alaba boys that you mentioned with reckless abandon earn more money than you. Most of them are millionaires, with comfortable homes and lives in the East. [/b]

sbeezy8:

trading not my style - reminds me of my aunties who sell things in their shops LOL

afam4eva:

Well said.

Igbos have proven beyond reasonable doubt that even illiiterates can become millonaire. It's not about having the Dangotes or Ibetos of this world but by having the wealth go round. The number of millonaires or billonaires of Igbo extraction is the highest of any African ethnic group. The so called white collar workers don't even earn a quarter of what those so-called Alaba illiterates make.

ekt_bear:

Agreed, not my style either.

Thing though is if you have a market of 18+ million people (Lagos State), then it can really be a gold mine.

But as I said. . . doesn't really add that much value to society, imo. Not much job creation, no value added (in terms of taking X, Y, and Z and making product A), etc.

sbeezy8:

Id rather be a doctor prof/teacher/ lawyer/ Civil servant or coporate finance.

even if I can make 2 mili weekly trading in Alaba Godforbid.- even thinking about it is making my head hurt.

im not knocking it but dont mean shiot to me.

true I mean thats why I think people esp in the SW are thinking in coporate term everyone cant be a businessman or woman.

ekt_bear:

^-- Personally what I want to do is to pack the people of the SW into factories. Go the same route the US went, from a primarily agricultural society to a manufacturing one.

There are countless stories here of uneducated immigrant types working factory jobs to send their kids to school to become doctors, lawyers, etc.

China is pretty much doing the same thing. . .

Anyway, I think we know what we need to do in the SW, just need to do it

afam4eva:

And who says south-westerners don't trade. So according to you every south-westerner is thinking corporate including the Tomato and pepper sellers, The meat sellers. Pls guy be real. Everyone trades the only difference is that the Igbo people are better at it and do it at the highest level.

sbeezy8:

I was thinking that exactly

theres soo MANY ELITE people in the SW sitting on Money. everyone cant be a business person some just need Jobs in the factories and up to managers.

sbeezy8:

I was thinking that exactly

theres soo MANY ELITE people in the SW sitting on Money. everyone cant be a business person some just need Jobs in the factories and up to managers.

its starting tho cause guys like Okoya, Folawiyo,Otudeko etc have manufacturing coporations. Thats where stocks come into play- so it cant be avoided

Big business is where its at honestly

Im tired of everyone tryin to sell everydamn thing from tooth brushes on the street to pure water its annoying.