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Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by Protein0: 9:33am On Dec 17, 2020 |
bobo65:Personally, what do you suggest as a solution? |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by martius101(m): 9:41am On Dec 17, 2020 |
ote author=Harryfrosh post=97134695]Good evening everyone... I'm just really annoyed and angry right now because of what's going on between @bdemix and @omicpet.. Last two weeks ago.. I was scrolling the offerup thread and saw @bdemix post about Samsung note 20 ultra TLC 370k... I called him around 3am that day because I need phone urgently.. I talked to him that day about price and he insisted on the 370k... I said OK... I'll pay... And later asked him when the phone will land... Just to know maybe i can wait or not... He said in between two weeks... I said I have no option than to wait then... I paid him 70k and last week Saturday he called me that the phone is now in Nigeria and @omicpet will handle the waybill... I transferred the remaining balance of 300k... I now asked about the waybill bill... He said @omicpet company will handle that... I told him I'll like to know the actual price... So I can pay everything.. Then I went on to tell him I want home delivery.. Because I just moved to ibadan without knowing any place... And to also be on the safe side... He said Lagos to ibadan should be around 3k or 4k but maximum of 5k... I said OK... I sent him 4k... I was expecting home delivery... Then a man called me around 7pm yesterday.. The man said he was to deliver a package to me... I was really confused.. I called @bdemix just to confirm because I don't really understand... @bdemix said he was expecting the waybill number... And he also mentioned that to me yesterday morning when I asked him for any updates... He said he already sent 3k to @omicpet office and he'll call then in the evening to ask for the delivery number... Just for a public transport man to called me about the package... I said OK no problem... I went to challenge street spending #300 like 1 hour plus to my place.. I called @bdemix before going and getting there around 8:30pm yesterday evening... Driver is not there... I called him and he said he's still in elewe.. I don't know that place.. I asked around and they said elewe is in Lagos.. I feel angry... But I have 370k phone at stake... I told myself I'll wait... Around 9pm I called the man again and he said he was around ogere... I also don't know that place... I keep calling @bdemix to tell him what's going on and my displeasure about the situation... Around 10pm the man is no longer going through... I keep telling myself to wait.. Till around 12am and all the area is empty... Only me and I look for hotel around... The one available is occupied.. I don't just know what to do and I'm really scared... I was just thinking then I saw a filling station.. I walked in and explained what's going on to the filling station security man and the man pity my condition and let me in.. I sat on a bench till 4am I can't sleep because I'm really scared... Exactly 4am I called @bdemix to let him know I slept in the street... But he don't pick up.. I guess he was sleeping.. I called the driver and he went through... Hello sir... I slept inside filling station because of you yesterday and I was just crying on the phone because I've never expected that to happen to me at all... Sleeping in filling station... Empty place... The man said if I see him myself... I'll pity him.. He said he was robbed coming to ibadan.. I don't know what to say.. I called @bdemix again and he picked up dis time around 4:30am.. I explained everything to him on the phone and he told me not to worry that I'm safe... I said OK.. Already around 5am cap already moving... I stopped a cap and went back to my place... Around 8am the man called me again to come to the park.. I put on my clothes and board a cab again and on getting there.. I saw the man really damaged.. His car was also damaged like seriously.. I start feeling scared and nervous.. The man explained what happened to me how him and his passengers were robbed and injured... He now said my own package was stolen by the robbers... He said because the package is not that big.. He put it in front of the car and that's how the robbers was able to cat away the phone and other passengers phones and money... In dis junction, I don't know what to do or say because the man is really injured and his car is also damaged badly... I called @bdemix to explained and he said I should hold the driver responsible... That I should called police on him and all that... Me.. I don't want all dis stuff that's why I paid for home delivery and gave you my home address which you asked for... After all back and forth... I was able to invite some police to the discussion... The people around won't allow the police to do anything because they keep saying if the robbers killed the man like they killed a driver last week who will be asking questions... I called @bdemix and he said i should not agree and hold him very well.. But how na.. He now suggest using Army officers... I don't know any army here in ibadan... I called a junior brother who is army in Lagos and he called some of his friends in ibadan and they also showed up... When they arrived... They asked questions and they said all of us should go to where the robbery happened... We entered and on getting there... It's true robbers operate in the area over night... People around the area confirmed that and the person who towed the man vehicle also showed up that it's one of his friend that paid the man 20k towing money.. The army said we should go back and getting back... The oldest man among the army called me to corner that the situation now should be between me and those who sent the phone... He said I should call them.. I called @bdemix and he said I should call @omicpet and calling @omicpet he asked me did i paid for home delivery and I said yes.. He now asked if I sent my home address.. I said I sent it to @bdemix.. He then asked if I received a call about my package and I said a man called me around 7:30pm yesterday.. He now said since the man called me about my package and the phone already left his jurisdiction and the only thing for me to do is to hold the driver... The Army officer behind is really angry about that statement... But me.. I'm just tired... I don't sleep all night because of my phone and now the phone is nowhere to be found.. I now beg the man to calm down and help me because I'm really tired of everything.... He now went back to the driver to negotiate and the driver said he bought his car just few months ago via higher purchase and still paying debts monthly... But he should be able to pay 200k and keep paying 20k weekly.. The man... His wife and his two children are all crying.. The man said they paid him just 1k for the package... Remember I sent 4k for home delivery... I called @bdemix about it and he said the money is too low... But me I don't just know what to say again or do... I went back home and just trying to get some rest since yesterday.. But I've been trying to reach @omicpet since... Not picking up... And it's like @bdemix is also not ready to say anything about it... And to make things worse... The driver called me not long ago that his car dealer heard about the robbery and the man insist that he must pay his car money finish first and that he the driver will not be able to meet up with the phone money again... I called the army officers and they told me the case is between me and @bdemix and @omicpet that all of us should be able to reach agreement... I called @omicpet again not going through... I don't just have anywhere to than to create dis thread for others nairaland should also see to it and help out... 370k phone and 4k waybill and currently nothing to show for it [/quote see matters... wahala be like car charger e no need head. 1 Like |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by djtommy(m): 9:52am On Dec 17, 2020 |
1. To avoid this kind of issues in the first place, buyer paid 4k to seller which he believes it's a reasonable amount for a proper logistics from Lagos-ibadan 2. is this the first time the seller is working with the logistic company, did he know that the logistic company use to render their services by sending it through bus driver at the park, if not did the seller ask the means they use to run their their services knowing the value of what you want to deliver to the buyer?? 3. after sending the item to the logistic company, was a pick up point agreed between the company and buyer, or I don't get why the item will just be sent to Ibadan without any pick up point, now the company involved another party which is the bus driver and also paying him to help with the delivery (so the company should hold the driver responsible too) At the end I believe the seller was not professional enough and was careless with the item. |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by Onyeka90210(m): 10:02am On Dec 17, 2020 |
Harryfrosh:Bruh, my advice to you would be to get external forces involved, get a court hearing even if it's a virtual one(WhatsApp Group call/zoom) there is one nympho lawyer here, the one that settled the defamation case, you could hit him up. When the Judge jury and executioner are sellers(all of them be guys), in most cases you'll be left with a "sorry" while in the best case you'll get a partial refund, while in real sense you should get full refund and extra if this were settled outside NL. You can check the dispute resolution thread to see how Sellers swindle buyers and get away with it, in the end they'll blame it on technicality. The process is just taking longer because you don't have WhatsApp screenshots or backing, so you're handicapped here. Even people that sell clothes and shoes don't use bus drivers to do waybill, They use legit couriers. 370k no be beans oh, I mean, look at the comment this jokesman made, how will someone that has not touch the phone before, talkless of having the IMEI number track the phone. He already even called it your loss. 18 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by Idboyostic(m): 10:02am On Dec 17, 2020 |
bobo65:Omo, have you guys ask @bdemix if he received the address buyer sent or not? Because he doesn't make sense to me, while would I send my address to a seller when is not home Delivery? As a seller, if I receive such message (the full address)....instantly I will asked what for? And tell you categorically where I can send it to or we conclude on how to get it to your address. And do you know Ibadan has different parks? Some buyers prefer IWO road some preferred CHALLENGE etc. Why would I just send to IBADAN without asking where? On different occasions, even the garage guys will ask you where did the buyer wants to get the package from? There and then they will call the buyer and ask but no call was placed to buyer at the garage. And if we are truthful with ourselves, who pays 4k to garage guys from Lagos to Ibadan if he doesn't want home Delivery? As long as the terms and conditions of waybill is not channeled to the buyer at the point of contact, abeg make una leave the buyer o.....@bdemix asking him to hold the driver is absurd even when the story was played to him.....so far, who has he be holding? He has forgotten buyer never got what he paid for? No compromise nothing nothing He is just repeating same thing all over and over! 21 Likes |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by numtums(m): 10:03am On Dec 17, 2020 |
Hausa:Aliexpress gives an option of opening a dispute, moreover you shouldn't be choosing a picking a free delivery or cheap delivery for such an expensive phone |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by Protein0: 10:05am On Dec 17, 2020 |
I will implore Bdemix and Omicpet to come up with refund to this buyer and move on. Shit happens. Buyer has absolutely no wrong that can be pinned on him and thus should not be made to bear from the loss, unless he willingly offers to forgo part. In the event that a resolution like this is not reached, buyer should hold the seller who should hold omicpet who should in turn hold the driver who should in turn hold the robbers. Of course, the grounds for all but the first holding are debatable. It's all shades of wrong to ask buyer to hold driver, he simply has no direct business with the driver. Going forward 1. I will advise that sellers decline delivery outside their store/warehouse if they are not willing to take responsibility for what happens in transit or issue a caveat to the buyer at that point but I doubt buyers will be aware that they're bearing logistics risks and still go ahead with purchases. The moment you accept to arrange delivery to buyers, it's either item gets delivered intact or you refund the buyer so far buyer use your recommended delivery method. I've personally done this both as a seller and as a buyer on several occasions. 2. Omicpet should work on insurance per item and let clients pay certain % of item value for this. Any client who declines cover accepts whatever happens in transit. GIGLogistics does this. He should also state his terms of service to clients before accepting tasks. Those who are cool with it will deal. 11 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by bobo65(m): 10:08am On Dec 17, 2020 |
numtums: Exactly seller got a full address but told Omicpet to send to ibadan not to the address |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by bobo65(m): 10:09am On Dec 17, 2020 |
OVA200: Brother are u new to Tlc deals? Omics place is the pick up point |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by Mac2016(m): 10:12am On Dec 17, 2020 |
omicpet:Bro, be honorable. You're responsible for a failed delivery. No further statement. Pay him up or be paid be ready for legal issues. If your delivery failed, you commissioned the delivery it's your responsibility to ensure delivery of undamaged item. Pls be honourable and pay back to the person that sent you to deliver then he pays to the buyer. Simple. 8 Likes |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by numtums(m): 10:15am On Dec 17, 2020 |
bobo65:The seller needs to be held responsible for his nonchalant attitude, he didn't do a follow-up on his sale which is very bad. He gave the I don't care attitude and should pay for it |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by numtums(m): 10:16am On Dec 17, 2020 |
Mac2016:Don't blame omnicept though he had the fault of not sending the driver's number to the buyer |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by finalboss(m): 10:18am On Dec 17, 2020 |
let them pick these boys, na waste of time if you Dy do whatsapp group meeting. them suppose don Dy beg now. If you need soldiers I can get some for you. You can't tell me all these things face 2 face. you won't even have time to breath talk less of typing. 10 Likes |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by adecamp(m): 10:22am On Dec 17, 2020 |
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Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by Ipsum: 10:23am On Dec 17, 2020 |
Since buyer hammered on home delivery & was promised a waybiill number according to him (Bus drivers don't use waybiill number), his only mistake was agreeing to have any form of contact whatsoever with the logistics company used because as far as I'm concerned he has no business with them whatsoever. Even more so by the fact that he & the logistics company had no form of any prior contact or communication whatsoever from the very beginning, to when item was taken to the park etc. Buyer should have just relaxed, contacted seller and allowed seller and the logistics company discuss, gloss over & nitpick on what the true technicalities of "Send of to Ibadan" truly means & the service his 3k payment covers. The buyer should absolutely, I repeat, absolutely not be brought into that conversation at all, which he was never part of from the beginning. This is basic, basic, common sense. Only discussion buyer should be brought in, is the final stage of resolution where the way forward will be discussed. 5 Likes |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by Fatbabyfart(m): 10:31am On Dec 17, 2020 |
Las las Na police station this case go settle. |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by bobo65(m): 10:33am On Dec 17, 2020 |
Protein0: Exactly what we want to conclude but buyer doesn't have a whatsapp number |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by OVA200(m): 10:34am On Dec 17, 2020 |
bobo65:Why are you sounding like this now. Did the buyer and seller agreed on Omic office as the pick up station before the item get to Omic office? Because both the seller and the buyer didn't say anything like this. The buyer even said he didn't know Omic or have his number until the driver called him. Hope you've not collected 70 out if the 370 like this? Because I don't see why you are defending the seller like this and doing that with flimsy excuses. 15 Likes |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by bobo65(m): 10:37am On Dec 17, 2020 |
Harryfrosh: Please brother, at what point did you tell the seller that u wanted the item delivered to ibadan, is it when you were making payment initially or when it got to Lagos? 1 Like |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by OVA200(m): 10:41am On Dec 17, 2020 |
bobo65:So you don't know this and you are telling me Omic office is the pick up station. Read what you quoted he clearly said they arrange waybill and he said he told him he want home delivery reason why he later sent 4k. So how is Omic office the pick up station? And how will the buyer begin to beg him to help send the item to Ibadan after it has reach Omic office? This is crystal clear abeg. Bro I swear I dey suspect you now. 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by 1x2x3: 10:44am On Dec 17, 2020 |
Harryfrosh: Call me 0 9 0 3 9 3 7 6 7 8 2 You guys are talking unnecessarily. I will also speak to the seller on how to get this resolved. You had a phone conversation with him and there are recorded call logs which can be retrieved when needed. So don't be boxed because of screenshots. 6 Likes |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by bobo65(m): 10:44am On Dec 17, 2020 |
OVA200: Talk wisely. This is exactly why no other listed judiciary person is replying. I stated before that the buyer is not taking responsibility for the loss. See no one wakes up in the morning expecting gbese, it just happened, it's the solution we are after. Make your statements without dropping insults. |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by bobo65(m): 10:45am On Dec 17, 2020 |
OVA200: I know what I know I'm just telling the seller to state it out clearly, there is a reason. |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by bobo65(m): 10:48am On Dec 17, 2020 |
1x2x3: If you can help with this, then it's perfect Cos from what bdemix wrote, someone is lying here. |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by PotatoSalad(m): 10:48am On Dec 17, 2020 |
Crieff:U be goat sha. No offense 5 Likes |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by bobo65(m): 10:50am On Dec 17, 2020 |
bdemix: ova200 read this |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by OVA200(m): 10:56am On Dec 17, 2020 |
bobo65:I know the difference between proper investigation and ploy to convict someone. In your first post you stated it that the Omic did not receive any address and I ask you since he didn't receive any address who did he send the item to in Ibadan? You refuse to answer. Secondly you stated that it's the buyer that begged the seller or Omic to help him send the item after it has reached his office as the pickup station which is also wrong. It's after I query you on both now that you are asking the buyer if they agree on shipping to Ibadan. You even accuse me if not knowing anything about TLC. If you want to investigate as you claim you suppose to ask the buyer first before making those wrong assumptions. 8 Likes |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by OVA200(m): 10:57am On Dec 17, 2020 |
bobo65:You should have done this before your first post about the issue today. 2 Likes |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by Miyachi: 10:57am On Dec 17, 2020 |
justianoo: It remains for us to tell ourselves the truth. I know it might not be easy for Bdemix, but he has to refund Harryfrosh or reach a settlement plan with him. Omic and Bdemix also need to reach an agreement on how to share the loss. All this 2k or 4k or home delivery issue shouldn't be the case now, that one has passed. 1 Like |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by AududuNine11: 11:01am On Dec 17, 2020 |
Protein0: Kweke... Transsion Holdings Inc. 2 Likes |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by seankafor(m): 11:05am On Dec 17, 2020 |
Oh mehn, e sure me say the money this buyer has spent and is going to spend will amount or surpass the amount of the package itself.. Na the buyer I dey pity pass because I know he will be at loss the most. And if he ends up calling the police or whatever on the two guys delivering and seller.. No be who call police dey always win case.. but shaa the matter go still tey for court.. If na me, I go count my losses and move on... Shit happens |
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by OVA200(m): 11:06am On Dec 17, 2020 |
bobo65:I've done that before. This is where you should have pick your point in the first place instead of saying they agreed on Omic office as the pickup station which the buyer denied with proof (the SMS). By saying Omic office is the pickup station is like believing the seller (despite no evidence) and disputing buyer's side with his evidence. In short that means you saying the buyer is lying. |
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