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By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by FatherOfJesus: 12:54am On Dec 27, 2020
Mary was from the tribe of Levi
The Bible claims that Jesus is from the tribe of Judah and lineage of David.

This could not have been true because Joseph wasn’t the biological father of Jesus. It means that Jesus is not from the lineage of David and from the tribe of Judah as the Bible purports. This is a big error

He possibly had more of Levi blood than Judah in him. He’s a bastard by definition

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Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by BigDick70inch(m): 1:00am On Dec 27, 2020
FatherOfJesus:
Mary was from the tribe of Levi
The Bible claims that Jesus is from the tribe of Judah and lineage of David.

This could not have been true because Joseph wasn’t the biological father of Jesus. It means that Jesus is not from the lineage of David and from the tribe of Judah as the Bible purports. This is a big error

He possibly had more of Levi blood that Ju
dah in him. He’s a bastard by definition

No u r the bastard......
Product of a leaked contaminated sperm....

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Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by FatherOfJesus: 1:14am On Dec 27, 2020
BigDick70inch:


No u r the bastard......
Product of a leaked contaminated sperm....
Bro, I know my father, Jesus didn’t know his father.

He was a bastard in Isreal. He was born out of wedlock. grin

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Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by AntiChristian: 8:59am On Dec 27, 2020
Adam had no father and mother.

Eve had no mother.

Jesus had no father.

Others have parents.

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Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by orunto27: 9:19am On Dec 27, 2020
JESUS IS BORN BY THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD.
Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by obonujoker(m): 9:21am On Dec 27, 2020
The Lord Jesus Christ forgive you... Coz it's obvious you don't know what you are doing....
Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by ChukwuZobamBiko: 9:54am On Dec 27, 2020
FatherOfJesus:
Mary was from the tribe of Levi
The Bible claims that Jesus is from the tribe of Judah and lineage of David.

This could not have been true because Joseph wasn’t the biological father of Jesus. It means that Jesus is not from the lineage of David and from the tribe of Judah as the Bible purports. This is a big error

He possibly had more of Levi blood than Judah in him. He’s a bastard by definition


You do not know what you are doing,

Wake up before it's too late
Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by FatherOfJesus: 11:25am On Dec 27, 2020
ChukwuZobamBiko:



You do not know what you are doing,

Wake up before it's too late
lol, just answer the question
Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by FatherOfJesus: 11:26am On Dec 27, 2020
orunto27:
JESUS IS BORN BY THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD.
hes a bastard

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Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by ChukwuZobamBiko: 2:03pm On Dec 27, 2020
FatherOfJesus:
lol, just answer the question

I was once doing worst than you're doing.
Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by sonmvayina(m): 2:08pm On Dec 27, 2020
FatherOfJesus:
Mary was from the tribe of Levi
The Bible claims that Jesus is from the tribe of Judah and lineage of David.

This could not have been true because Joseph wasn’t the biological father of Jesus. It means that Jesus is not from the lineage of David and from the tribe of Judah as the Bible purports. This is a big error

He possibly had more of Levi blood than Judah in him. He’s a bastard by definition

Exactely...according to the story. Well if we rule out the assertions by mathew and luke about the holy spirit lie, it will mean that either joseph is the biological father, or Mary is an olosho or she was raped...
Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by advocatejare(m): 2:42pm On Dec 27, 2020
FatherOfJesus:
Mary was from the tribe of Levi
The Bible claims that Jesus is from the tribe of Judah and lineage of David.

This could not have been true because Joseph wasn’t the biological father of Jesus. It means that Jesus is not from the lineage of David and from the tribe of Judah as the Bible purports. This is a big error

He possibly had more of Levi blood than Judah in him. He’s a bastard by definition

Ignorance is your problem. If you think, you'll simply do research before you display your ignorance online:

Both Mary and Joseph are descendants of David.

Joachim and Anna are the parents of Mary. Joachim is a descendant of King David


Jacob and Heli were half brothers, and when Heli died childless, Jacob married
his widow and got his son Joseph.

Jacob is Joseph's biological father, but Heli
is his legal father
.

Both Jacob and Heli were of the Judah tribe - one through
Solomon and the other through Nathan.

Regardless, Joseph is from the
Judah tribe whether legally or biologically



So, from both the maternal and foster father's side, Jesus is from the tribe of Judah and a descendant of David.

But God was also making a point by telling us that by Joseph's adoption of Jesus, Jesus became legally a son of Man while also retaining his divinity as the son of God.

Why is this necessary? Because Jesus had to adopt us humans who are children of Men to become children of God by adoption.

Jesus adopted us to become co-heir, co-children of God as he is.

This adoption law had been in existent for long, and adopted children have the same legal rights as biological children and adopted children even use and answer the biological children's name and all the laws binding the biological children bind the adopted children too.


It was this law of adoption that Muhammad cancelled just because he wanted to snatch the wife of his adopted son Zaid. Muhammad had adopted Zaid since Zaid was 8 years old so legally and morally Muhammad could not have married Zaid's wife because the same law that binds a father from marrying his biological son's wife also holds for adopted child. Hence, Muhammad used Allah to cancel law of adoption in order to marry Zaid's wife despite the fact that muhammad already had many wives and Zaid had none.



وَإِذْ تَقُولُ لِلَّذِىٓ أَنْعَمَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَأَنْعَمْتَ عَلَيْهِ أَمْسِكْ عَلَيْكَ زَوْجَكَ وَاتَّقِ اللَّهَ وَتُخْفِى فِى نَفْسِكَ مَا اللَّهُ مُبْدِيهِ وَتَخْشَى النَّاسَ وَاللَّهُ أَحَقُّ أَنْ تَخْشٰىهُ ۖ فَلَمَّا قَضٰى زَيْدٌ مِّنْهَا وَطَرًا زَوَّجْنٰكَهَا لِكَىْ لَا يَكُونَ عَلَى الْمُؤْمِنِينَ حَرَجٌ فِىٓ أَزْوٰجِ أَدْعِيَآئِهِمْ إِذَا قَضَوْا مِنْهُنَّ وَطَرًا ۚ وَكَانَ أَمْرُ اللَّهِ مَفْعُولًا
"And [remember, O Muhammad], when you said to the one on whom Allah bestowed favor and you bestowed favor, Keep your wife and fear Allah, while you concealed within yourself that which Allah is to disclose. And you feared the people, while Allah has more right that you fear Him. So when Zayd had no longer any need for her, We married her to you in order that there not be upon the believers any discomfort concerning the wives of their adopted sons when they no longer have need of them. And ever is the command of Allah accomplished."
(QS. Al-Ahzaab 33: Verse 37) [/quote]
Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by jesusjnr2020(m): 2:47pm On Dec 27, 2020
When someone claims to be the father of Jesus, and yet says Jesus was a bastard, you should begin to have an idea of who the real bastard is. wink
Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by enilove(m): 2:55pm On Dec 27, 2020
FatherOfJesus:
Mary was from the tribe of Levi
The Bible claims that Jesus is from the tribe of Judah and lineage of David.

This could not have been true because Joseph wasn’t the biological father of Jesus. It means that Jesus is not from the lineage of David and from the tribe of Judah as the Bible purports. This is a big error

He possibly had more of Levi blood than Judah in him. He’s a bastard by definition


Nonsense . You are an ignorant and agent of darkness .

Have you not read these :

Matthew 10:32 KJV
Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before MY FATHER which is in heaven.

Matthew 11:27 KJV
All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

Because you don't know someone's father does not make him/ her a bastered , as long as the father does not deny him/her as his .

Mark 9:7 KJV
And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.
Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by FatherOfJesus: 4:44pm On Dec 27, 2020
ChukwuZobamBiko:


I was once doing worst than you're doing.
spare me the stories, not interested
Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by FatherOfJesus: 4:46pm On Dec 27, 2020
advocatejare:


Ignorance is your problem. If you think, you'll simply do research before you display your ignorance online:

Both Mary and Joseph are descendants of David.

Joachim and Anna are the parents of Mary. Joachim is a descendant of King David


Jacob and Heli were half brothers, and when Heli died childless, Jacob married
his widow and got his son Joseph.

Jacob is Joseph's biological father, but Heli
is his legal father
.

Both Jacob and Heli were of the Judah tribe - one through
Solomon and the other through Nathan.

Regardless, Joseph is from the
Judah tribe whether legally or biologically



So, from both the maternal and foster father's side, Jesus is from the tribe of Judah and a descendant of David.

But God was also making a point by telling us that by Joseph's adoption of Jesus, Jesus became legally a son of Man while also retaining his divinity as the son of God.

Why is this necessary? Because Jesus had to adopt us humans who are children of Men to become children of God by adoption.

Jesus adopted us to become co-heir, co-children of God as he is.

This adoption law had been in existent for long, and adopted children have the same legal rights as biological children and adopted children even use and answer the biological children's name and all the laws binding the biological children bind the adopted children too.


It was this law of adoption that Muhammad cancelled just because he wanted to snatch the wife of his adopted son Zaid. Muhammad had adopted Zaid since Zaid was 8 years old so legally and morally Muhammad could not have married Zaid's wife because the same law that binds a father from marrying his biological son's wife also holds for adopted child. Hence, Muhammad used Allah to cancel law of adoption in order to marry Zaid's wife despite the fact that muhammad already had many wives and Zaid had none.



وَإِذْ تَقُولُ لِلَّذِىٓ أَنْعَمَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَأَنْعَمْتَ عَلَيْهِ أَمْسِكْ عَلَيْكَ زَوْجَكَ وَاتَّقِ اللَّهَ وَتُخْفِى فِى نَفْسِكَ مَا اللَّهُ مُبْدِيهِ وَتَخْشَى النَّاسَ وَاللَّهُ أَحَقُّ أَنْ تَخْشٰىهُ ۖ فَلَمَّا قَضٰى زَيْدٌ مِّنْهَا وَطَرًا زَوَّجْنٰكَهَا لِكَىْ لَا يَكُونَ عَلَى الْمُؤْمِنِينَ حَرَجٌ فِىٓ أَزْوٰجِ أَدْعِيَآئِهِمْ إِذَا قَضَوْا مِنْهُنَّ وَطَرًا ۚ وَكَانَ أَمْرُ اللَّهِ مَفْعُولًا
"And [remember, O Muhammad], when you said to the one on whom Allah bestowed favor and you bestowed favor, Keep your wife and fear Allah, while you concealed within yourself that which Allah is to disclose. And you feared the people, while Allah has more right that you fear Him. So when Zayd had no longer any need for her, We married her to you in order that there not be upon the believers any discomfort concerning the wives of their adopted sons when they no longer have need of them. And ever is the command of Allah accomplished."
(QS. Al-Ahzaab 33: Verse 37)
you are the ignorant fellow, Mary is not from descendant of David, she’s from the Aaronic priesthood which is Levi.

It’s funny how you people don’t know your Bible. You are still so ignorant that you don’t know that Lineage is not from the mother rather from Father
Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by FatherOfJesus: 4:49pm On Dec 27, 2020
enilove:



Nonsense . You are an ignorant and agent of darkness .

Have you not read these :

Matthew 10:32 KJV
Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before MY FATHER which is in heaven.

Matthew 11:27 KJV
All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

Because you don't know someone's father does not make him/ her a bastered , as long as the father does not deny him/her as his .

Mark 9:7 KJV
And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.
lol, Joseph not biological father. It’s not logical to say Jesus is from tribe of Judah
Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by ChukwuZobamBiko: 4:52pm On Dec 27, 2020
FatherOfJesus:
spare me the stories, not interested


Okay.
Once more, there is no gain doing all these.
Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by advocatejare(m): 5:19pm On Dec 27, 2020
FatherOfJesus:
you are the ignorant fellow, Mary is not from descendant of David, she’s from the Aaronic priesthood which is Levi.
Prove this, I've proven to you that Mary is from the tribe of Judah because Joachim her father is from that tribe

It’s funny how you people don’t know your Bible. You are still so ignorant that you don’t know that Lineage is not from the mother rather from Father
You lack comprehensive capacity, now go back and read my first post, and pay attention to 'adoption'

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Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by FatherOfJesus: 5:52pm On Dec 27, 2020
advocatejare:

Prove this, I've proven to you that Mary is from the tribe of Judah because Joachim her father is from that tribe


You lack comprehensive capacity, now go back and read my first post, and pay attention to 'adoption'

wikipedia

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Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by FatherOfJesus: 5:53pm On Dec 27, 2020
ChukwuZobamBiko:



Okay.
Once more, there is no gain doing all these.
Ok bye
Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by advocatejare(m): 6:20pm On Dec 27, 2020
FatherOfJesus:
wikipedia
Wikipedia didn't say Mary is from Levi, it says Elizabeth who was from the tribe of Levi.

The same Wikipedia said Joachim is Mary's father, so that it easier. Just ask Wikipedia the tribe of Joachim, Mary's father

Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by FatherOfJesus: 6:23pm On Dec 27, 2020
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advocatejare:

Wikipedia didn't say Mary is from Levi, it says Elizabeth who was from the tribe of Levi.

The same Wikipedia said Joachim is Mary's father, so that it easier. Just ask Wikipedia the tribe of Joachim, Mary's father
read it well. This time slowly

Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by Tcwork: 6:26pm On Dec 27, 2020
All through the verses of the bible, he told you who his father was.
By definition, a bastard is an illegitimate child. Christ was the only begotten of his father, the heir to the Father's kingdom.
So unless you have another mean of the word 'bastard' Jesus Christ was not one.
Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by advocatejare(m): 6:27pm On Dec 27, 2020
FatherOfJesus:
Pread it well. This time slowly

https://sanctoral.com/en/saints/saint_joachim.html

Open your eyes and read, you will see that Joachim, the father of Mary is from the tribe of Judah, same tribe of David

Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by enilove(m): 6:27pm On Dec 27, 2020
FatherOfJesus:
lol, Joseph not biological father. It’s not logical to say Jesus is from tribe of Judah

You are beclouded with evil ,that is why you can't think straight.

The only father Jesus had on earth was an adoptive father , Joseph , which was why he was from the tribe of Judah.

Legally , any adopted child bears the name of the adoptive father .
Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by FatherOfJesus: 6:30pm On Dec 27, 2020
enilove:


You are beclouded with evil , that is why you can think straight .

The only father Jesus had on earth was an adoptive father , Joseph , which was why he was from the tribe of Judah.

Spiritually speaking , when you accept something as yours and there is no contention about it , it becomes yours .

Legally , any adopted child bears the name of the adoptive father .


Jesus was bastard in Israel, born out of wedlock
Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by FatherOfJesus: 6:31pm On Dec 27, 2020
advocatejare:


https://sanctoral.com/en/saints/saint_joachim.html

Open your eyes and read, you will see that Joachim, the father of Mary is from the tribe of Judah, same tribe of David
Wikipedia is more respected source of the information

Mary is levite
Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by Tcwork: 6:37pm On Dec 27, 2020
FatherOfJesus:
Wikipedia is more respected source of the information

Mary is levite
Wikipedia is not actually a very authoritative source. Anyone including you can be a contributor.
The bible never stated Mary's tribe but other sources teaches that she is from Judah
Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by Tcwork: 6:42pm On Dec 27, 2020
Obviously he was an adopted son of Joseph but being adopted and being a bastard are not the same thing. By the law of man, he was legally the son of Joseph.
Remember Joseph claimed him as his own after the angelic visit.
He is the legitimate son of the almighty God.
At his baptism, his father declared, this is my only begotten son. So you need to go back and learn what it mwas to be a bastard.
Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by enilove(m): 6:42pm On Dec 27, 2020
FatherOfJesus:
Jesus was bastard in Israel, born out of wedlock

Are you an Israelite ? The Israelites who knew him and knew the story behind his birth called him '' son of Joseph '' .

John 1:45 KJV
Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.

Matthew 13:55 KJV
Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

Why didn't they call him , even once , a bastard ?
Re: By Definition, Jesus Is Actually A Bastard With Unknown Root. by advocatejare(m): 6:43pm On Dec 27, 2020
FatherOfJesus:
Wikipedia is more respected source of the information

Mary is levite
Keep lying to yourself, you think your lies can change history. You're wrong.

You lack comprehension, Zechariah and his wife, Elizabeth are the ones from the tribe of Aaron/Levi not Mary.

Luke.1.5 - In the time of Herod king of Judea there was a priest named Zechariah, who belonged to the priestly division of Abijah; his wife Elizabeth was also a descendant of Aaron.


Luke.1.26 - In the sixth month, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee,
Luke.1.27 - to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin's name was Mary.

Wikipedia always reference their information, show me the reference that Wikipedia used to claim that Mary is from Levi tribe, I've shown you from the Bible, the standard for Christians that Mary is from Judah tribe

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