Of course I know " No one can do so in physical flesh"

But dont you think if we can figure this out without having to die first, it will help the inhabitants of earth for good?

Seeing is believing... No substantial proof for a mortal being to ascertain the realness of heaven or hell... the holy book made only existential proof it exists—but in written form (for Christians particularly) as opposed by some other religion or beliefs.


What if? What if we get to see heaven and hell as living beings rather than in the afterlife? Perhaps if that be the case we can be sure we are not going to return back to where we were before we were born when we die.

It can convincingly help us to strive to make heaven!

Righteousness89

Your first question should be why we die.


We die because of sin. Our first parents sinned, and we inherited that sin.


Your misconception about heaven or hell is another problem.

When people die, they are conscious of nothing. They don't go anywhere. They are not being tormented in hell fire. (Eccl 9: 4 -6).

Hell is simply the common grave of mankind. The doctrine of hell fire is unchristian and supports Satan's plot to label a God of love as though cruel.


People who preach hell fire only want to instill a fear in you not to sin. But aren't people -- even them -- sinning?

We can discuss this at length of you are interested.


The bible teaches of promises for the meek at Rev 21: 3-4. Now think, do those promises apply to heaven or earth?

Surely, the earth! That is to say, people will have to live forever on earth peacefully again...like it was initially designed before Adam and Eve sinned.

I don't want to go to heaven or hell, I just wanna die and be buried when it's time....



I think I should be allowed to make my choice

Good question....

According to my friend,


If you’re rich and can afford anything you desire, you’re in Heaven.
If you’re poor and broke, you’re in Hell.

Well... was thinking though... when I die I will come back again, reincarnated as Joe Biden's first son

It will be unfair to find out that it's all scam in the afterlife... possibly after living the life of a sacred saint

After denying yourself all the pleasures of a carnal life!!

illicit:
I don't want to go to heaven or hell, I just wanna die and be buried when it's time....



I think I should be allowed to make my choice

lol, it seems automatic bro... no options to choose from... they say you will be judged according to your deeds on earth

Kriss216:
According to my friend,


If you’re rich and can afford anything you desire, you’re in Heaven.
If you’re poor and broke, you’re in Hell.

That your Friend the attend God's Kingdom Society baa ? ?

chatinent:
Your first question should be why we die.


We die because of sin. Our first parents sinned, and we inherited that sin.


Your misconception about heaven or hell is another problem.

When people die, they are conscious of nothing. They don't go anywhere. They are not being tormented in hell fire. (Eccl 9: 4 -6).

Hell is simply the common grave of mankind. The doctrine of hell fire is unchristian and supports Satan's plot to label a God of love as though cruel.


People who preach hell fire only want to instill a fear in you not to sin. But aren't people -- even them -- sinning?

We can discuss this at length of you are interested.


The bible teaches of promises for the meek at Rev 21: 3-4. Now think, do those promises apply to heaven or earth?

Surely, the earth! That is to say, people will have to live forever on earth peacefully again...like it was initially designed before Adam and Eve sinned.

Are you saying those who sinned will remain in their graves and be conscious of nothing when they die... while the righteous ones will live forever on earth?

Lalasticlala... help

BadRadio:
Are you saying those who sinned will remain in their graves and be conscious of nothing when they die... while the righteous ones will live forever on earth?

Yes, and the righteous who died will come back to life..not by reincarnation or afterlife which are unscriptural, but through resurrection!

chatinent:


Yes, and the righteous who died will come back to life..not by reincarnation or afterlife which are unscriptural, but through resurrection!

Sounds like a teaching from JW... biblical hermeneutic

Nice

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