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Re: Abortion: Head Of US Bishops' Conference Warns Biden by Obi1kenobi(m): 3:56pm On Jan 22, 2021
Theoutsider:



Its called feminisms do your home work


What's the relevance of feminism to black women doing more abortions than other women?
Re: Abortion: Head Of US Bishops' Conference Warns Biden by helicoptarr: 4:52pm On Jan 22, 2021
WE WILL ALL SEE THE CONSEQUENCES.
Re: Abortion: Head Of US Bishops' Conference Warns Biden by Chapii: 5:36pm On Jan 22, 2021
kingxsamz:



You wey dey stay for North. Oga rest. You've not finished raising your children in the Northern part of Nigeria, na America be your problem.
I don't know why many Christians feel the world revolves around their beliefs.
Oga. Its not about Christianity which I have denounced. I am an agnostic. It is about Nature, about order, about life. I am not against Termination of Pregnancy which should be done early but if you know what these guys do you will shudder. Read about stem cell research you will now why they allow the pregnancy to grow till it is terminated
Re: Abortion: Head Of US Bishops' Conference Warns Biden by cococandy(f): 6:11pm On Jan 22, 2021
Obi1kenobi:


You'll wait till you grow pink hair. Trump fans are a special level of stewpid which is why they're so gullible and susceptible to every disinformation and malevolent propaganda and inhabit a different reality. Nigerian Trump fans are an even different level of stewpid.
I thought as much
Re: Abortion: Head Of US Bishops' Conference Warns Biden by Theoutsider: 8:49pm On Jan 22, 2021
Obi1kenobi:


What's the relevance of feminism to black women doing more abortions than other women?

" According to that report, black women make up 14 percent of the childbearing population. Yet, 36 percent of all abortions were obtained by black women. 36 percent of all abortions were obtained by black women. At a ratio of 474 abortions per 1,000 live births, black women have the highest ratio of any group in the country. White women are five times less likely to have an abortion than black women. 79 percent of Planned Parenthood’s surgical abortion facilities are located within walking distance of minority communities "

now look up Margaret Sanger eugenics

feminisms is the core of the failing black community masked to make it look as women have or are being oppressed as if men do not die every day providing for families.

You forget about Madam Tinubu of Yorubaland or Anna Nzinga?

No someone said about population control, yet the USA wants to open the boarders to allow more people. Get your stories straight.. opening boarders is equal to allowing more votes so parties can stay in power.
Re: Abortion: Head Of US Bishops' Conference Warns Biden by Obi1kenobi(m): 9:10pm On Jan 22, 2021
Theoutsider:


" According to that report, black women make up 14 percent of the childbearing population. Yet, 36 percent of all abortions were obtained by black women. 36 percent of all abortions were obtained by black women. At a ratio of 474 abortions per 1,000 live births, black women have the highest ratio of any group in the country. White women are five times less likely to have an abortion than black women. 79 percent of Planned Parenthood’s surgical abortion facilities are located within walking distance of minority communities "

now look up Margaret Sanger eugenics

feminisms is the core of the failing black community masked to make it look as women have or are being oppressed as if men do not die every day providing for families.

You forget about Madam Tinubu of Yorubaland or Anna Nzinga?

No someone said about population control, yet the USA wants to open the boarders to allow more people. Get your stories straight.. opening boarders is equal to allowing more votes so parties can stay in power.

I've read conspiracy theories about Margaret Sanger, and it makes zero sense. There is no coherence to it. Black people have more abortions than white people for the same reasons black people have a far higher rate of single-parenthood than white people: their own social dysfunction and comparative lack of education leading to poor decisions. That single parenthood rate would be a far worse social catastrophe if not for access to birth control and abortions. A 16-year-old girl aborting an unwanted pregnancy is doing it to safeguard her future by not condemning herself and unwanted child to an existence of misery and poverty. And it's for the best. She's not doing it because of a long-dead white woman who believes in eugenics. Again, nobody forced anyone to get an abortion. If you want one, you walk into a clinic and they assist you. If you claim it's a conspiracy against black people, you're insulting black people as being too dumb to know what they want.

Opening borders to allow more votes so parties can stay in power? In that case, since black people are the most dedicated voters of Democrats (often voting up to 90%+ Democrat), then following your conspiracy theory, Democrats should want as many black people as possible to be born since abortion of black people reduces their potential voting population. You see your ridiculous logic?

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Re: Abortion: Head Of US Bishops' Conference Warns Biden by Theoutsider: 10:46pm On Jan 22, 2021
Obi1kenobi:


I've read conspiracy theories about Margaret Sanger, and it makes zero sense. There is no coherence to it. Black people have more abortions than white people for the same reasons black people have a far higher rate of single-parenthood than white people: their own social dysfunction and comparative lack of education leading to poor decisions. That single parenthood rate would be a far worse social catastrophe if not for access to birth control and abortions. A 16-year-old girl aborting an unwanted pregnancy is doing it to safeguard her future by not condemning herself and unwanted child to an existence of misery and poverty. And it's for the best. She's not doing it because of a long-dead white woman who believes in eugenics. Again, nobody forced anyone to get an abortion. If you want one, you walk into a clinic and they assist you. If you claim it's a conspiracy against black people, you're insulting black people as being too dumb to know what they want.

Opening borders to allow more votes so parties can stay in power? In that case, since black people are the most dedicated voters of Democrats (often voting up to 90%+ Democrat), then following your conspiracy theory, Democrats should want as many black people as possible to be born since abortion of black people reduces their potential voting population. You see your ridiculous logic?

Either you suffer from low IQ or simply not bright enough for complex situation, ideas, or conversation.

The core point of feminism or any other -ism is to relieve women or individuals of accountability based on their actions. This is the same of all other groups like BLM and the LGBT community. If a woman makes a mistake the load is place on society and if the man makes a mistake the load is placed on him. This is years of conditioning by feminist groups Its so bad, some countries will not let you get a DNA test because the burden will get shift to society aka government aka socialist program (as over 30% of children do not belong to the father) Actions have consequences and we are removing these consequences by making SPECIAL GROUPS


BLM - If a black person makes a mistake he can shift victim hood to the society. George Flloyd was an excessive drug user, robbed houses and had a gun to a pregnant woman stomach and after years of playing catch and release with the police.. life caught up to him. Brenna Taylor was a drug king pin with her boyfriend and had Ar-45 and was under surveillance after a dead man was found in her rental car after a shot-out. (The media painted her a a sweet heart)

Gays can say they are not getting hired because of their sexual selection , when often I've seen gays bringing unwanted attention to themselves and others. Now they want it legal for men to dress up as women and work in places of power. sad aka Feminism (female) claims to want equality for women.. but what does a baby that has its own soul have anything to do about (her body/my choice) You have been convinced that aborting a baby 5-9 months into its development is normal. If you were aborted you wouldn't be here.

You know what's wrong with people like you. You think because it looks good or sounds good - that it is good Like when Nigeria borrows billions of dollars to build a rail system. You are one of the donkeys that computing stops when you hear good $hit and unable to digger deeper because your emotions have been quenched.

The democratic party has plans to make Puerto Rico and washington DC to get more votes as they want undocumented immigrants to have voting power and opening boards is most often on the buffet of feminist propaganda.. Europe does the same thing they open boards for votes while these power politicians live in highly secured and protected area. You talk about education, but it seems that you lack information.

Sanger was a know

Sanger called for the sterilization of those with mental and physical disabilities, including “morons, mental defectives, epileptics.”


Or why dont you read "My Way to Peace” (1932) by Sanger

keep the doors of Immigration closed to the entrance of certain aliens whose condition is known to be detrimental to the stamina of the race, such as feeble-minded, idiots, m0ron$, insane, syphiletic, epileptic, criminal, professional pro$titutes, and others in this class barred from entrance by the Immigration Laws of 1924.

apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization, and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is already tainted or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to offspring.


the whole dysgenic population would have its choice of segregation or sterilization.

The second step would be to take an inventory of the secondary group such as illiterates, paupers, unemployables, criminals, pro$titutes, dope-fiends; classify them in special departments under government medical protection and segregate on farms and open spaces as long as necessary for the strengthening and development of moral conduct.

This is straight from her writing

But even after this... to protect your ego and argument you will find a way to support a white know eugenics who would rather see you in a baby blender. Go on keep defending this person..

Re: Abortion: Head Of US Bishops' Conference Warns Biden by Obi1kenobi(m): 1:21am On Jan 23, 2021
Theoutsider:


Either you suffer from low IQ or simply not bright enough for complex situation, ideas, or conversation.

Insulting my intelligence is no substitute for constructing a coherent argument. I'm not impressed by any riffraff hiding behind his anonymous moniker to ramble about "IQ".


The core point of feminism or any other -ism is to relieve women or individuals of accountability based on their actions. This is the same of all other groups like BLM and the LGBT community. If a woman makes a mistake the load is place on society and if the man makes a mistake the load is placed on him. This is years of conditioning by feminist groups Its so bad, some countries will not let you get a DNA test because the burden will get shift to society aka government aka socialist program (as over 30% of children do not belong to the father) Actions have consequences and we are removing these consequences by making SPECIAL GROUPS

No, the core point of feminism is equality. Simple. That losers like you feel threatened by a society where women are accorded greater agency and control is your cross to bear, but the social progress is here to stay unfortunately for you. It's easy to ramble about "mistakes" and accountability when it's only women that have to bear the burden of carrying an unwanted pregnancy. Black Americans have an astonishing rate of single motherhood which contributes to the cycle of poverty and general social dysfunction. You've not addressed that. Your genius solution is for more unwanted pregnancies to be carried to term for more fatherless babies that end up as more drains on the welfare system and eventual lives as thugs and gangsters with no father figures to give them balance, structure and guidance in their lives. Yet, the problem to you is "feminism". Because of course, you're just a rabid misogynist. See how you're regurgitating every single dumb ass right wing argument I've ever seen like a brainwashed zombie. And you're the clown talking about "IQ"? grin


BLM - If a black person makes a mistake he can shift victim hood to the society. George Flloyd was an excessive drug user, robbed houses and had a gun to a pregnant woman stomach and after years of playing catch and release with the police.. life caught up to him. Brenna Taylor was a drug king pin with her boyfriend and had Ar-45 and was under surveillance after a dead man was found in her rental car after a shot-out. (The media painted her a a sweet heart)

Gays can say they are not getting hired because of their sexual selection , when often I've seen gays bringing unwanted attention to themselves and others. Now they want it legal for men to dress up as women and work in places of power. sad aka Feminism (female) claims to want equality for women.. but what does a baby that has its own soul have anything to do about (her body/my choice) You have been convinced that aborting a baby 5-9 months into its development is normal. If you were aborted you wouldn't be here.

I'm not sure why you're rambling about irrelevant things. Criminals are still entitled to civil rights in civilized societies. George Floyd robbing houses in the past was irrelevant to how he died. There is zero evidence Breonna Taylor was a drug "kingpin" beyond knowing the people who were subjects of a warrant and she herself was not the target of the raid that killed her. Again, irrelevant to how she died even if she was a drug kingpin.
And nobody aborts 9-months foetuses except there is a clear health emergency for the mother and there is no state where that is legal in the US. There is no such thing as a "soul". And yes, my body/my choice emphasizes the fact that misogynists like you who do not carry pregnancies have no right to lecture women on what they do with their bodies. If I were aborted, I would not exist. And if I don't exist, I wouldn't miss my lack of existence. So it makes zero difference to my argument. Aborted foetuses simply end up as organic waste to be disposed. There is no heavenly chamber where aborted foetuses are - living in some paradise. Maybe if you rid yourself of silly superstitions, you may reason better.


You know what's wrong with people like you. You think because it looks good or sounds good - that it is good Like when Nigeria borrows billions of dollars to build a rail system. You are one of the donkeys that computing stops when you hear good $hit and unable to digger deeper because your emotions have been quenched.

Again, your intellectual posturing here doesn't impress me. I'm not sure why you're making presumptions about my thoughts on borrowing money to build a rail system. I'm a critic of this administration on a long list of issues. Claiming your arguments are not emotional is empty posturing. Your arguments are emotional regurgitations of the right wing drivel that has saturated your head.


The democratic party has plans to make Puerto Rico and washington DC to get more votes as they want undocumented immigrants to have voting power and opening boards is most often on the buffet of feminist propaganda.. Europe does the same thing they open boards for votes while these power politicians live in highly secured and protected area. You talk about education, but it seems that you lack information.

Washington DC deserves representation, hence their agitation for a state. They pay their taxes like everyone else and are entitled to contribute their quota to national debate. Same with Puerto Rico. The relevance of this to "feminist propaganda" beats me. You're obviously deranged. grin


Sanger was a know




Or why dont you read "My Way to Peace” (1932) by Sanger

keep the doors of Immigration closed to the entrance of certain aliens whose condition is known to be detrimental to the stamina of the race, such as feeble-minded, idiots, m0ron$, insane, syphiletic, epileptic, criminal, professional pro$titutes, and others in this class barred from entrance by the Immigration Laws of 1924.

apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization, and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is already tainted or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to offspring.


the whole dysgenic population would have its choice of segregation or sterilization.

The second step would be to take an inventory of the secondary group such as illiterates, paupers, unemployables, criminals, pro$titutes, dope-fiends; classify them in special departments under government medical protection and segregate on farms and open spaces as long as necessary for the strengthening and development of moral conduct.

This is straight from her writing

But even after this... to protect your ego and argument you will find a way to support a white know eugenics who would rather see you in a baby blender. Go on keep defending this person..


Again, this rambling is irrelevant to people aborting unwanted foetuses. Nobody was arguing about whether Sanger was a eugenicist or not. I'm pointing out that all Americans - black or white, blue or pink - have the free will to make a choice. The US has some of the most restrictive abortion laws in Western democracies, and even many Eastern nations. None of this has anything to do with Margaret Sanger. Or feminism. Only a brainwashed witless clod would believe that Margaret Sanger represents the views of anyone who supports the right of women to terminate unwanted pregnancies.
Sanger was also an advocate of highly restrictive immigration policies, which puts her at odds with the dumb right wing propaganda you're regurgitating. In one sentence, you claim pro-immigration policies are a conspiracy to increase the voting base of Democrats and you're too dumb to understand the contradiction of the same Democrats being black baby killers - eliminating potential voters among the most Democrat-friendly race in America. Hilarious.

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Re: Abortion: Head Of US Bishops' Conference Warns Biden by Theoutsider: 3:54am On Jan 23, 2021
Obi1kenobi:


Insulting my intelligence is no substitute for constructing a coherent argument. I'm not impressed by any riffraff hiding behind his anonymous moniker to ramble about "IQ".



No, the core point of feminism is equality. Simple. That losers like you feel threatened by a society where women are accorded greater agency and control is your cross to bear, but the social progress is here to stay unfortunately for you. It's easy to ramble about "mistakes" and accountability when it's only women that have to bear the burden of carrying an unwanted pregnancy. Black Americans have an astonishing rate of single motherhood which contributes to the cycle of poverty and general social dysfunction. You've not addressed that. Your genius solution is for more unwanted pregnancies to be carried to term for more fatherless babies that end up as more drains on the welfare system and eventual lives as thugs and gangsters with no father figures to give them balance, structure and guidance in their lives. Yet, the problem to you is "feminism". Because of course, you're just a rabid misogynist. See how you're regurgitating every single dumb ass right wing argument I've ever seen like a brainwashed zombie. And you're the clown talking about "IQ"? grin



I'm not sure why you're rambling about irrelevant things. Criminals are still entitled to civil rights in civilized societies. George Floyd robbing houses in the past was irrelevant to how he died. There is zero evidence Breonna Taylor was a drug "kingpin" beyond knowing the people who were subjects of a warrant and she herself was not the target of the raid that killed her. Again, irrelevant to how she died even if she was a drug kingpin.
And nobody aborts 9-months foetuses except there is a clear health emergency for the mother and there is no state where that is legal in the US. There is no such thing as a "soul". And yes, my body/my choice emphasizes the fact that misogynists like you who do not carry pregnancies have no right to lecture women on what they do with their bodies. If I were aborted, I would not exist. And if I don't exist, I wouldn't miss my lack of existence. So it makes zero difference to my argument. Aborted foetuses simply end up as organic waste to be disposed. There is no heavenly chamber where aborted foetuses are - living in some paradise. Maybe if you rid yourself of silly superstitions, you may reason better.



Again, your intellectual posturing here doesn't impress me. I'm not sure why you're making presumptions about my thoughts on borrowing money to build a rail system. I'm a critic of this administration on a long list of issues. Claiming your arguments are not emotional is empty posturing. Your arguments are emotional regurgitations of the right wing drivel that has saturated your head.



Washington DC deserves representation, hence their agitation for a state. They pay their taxes like everyone else and are entitled to contribute their quota to national debate. Same with Puerto Rico. The relevance of this to "feminist propaganda" beats me. You're obviously deranged. grin



Again, this rambling is irrelevant to people aborting unwanted foetuses. Nobody was arguing about whether Sanger was a eugenicist or not. I'm pointing out that all Americans - black or white, blue or pink - have the free will to make a choice. The US has some of the most restrictive abortion laws in Western democracies, and even many Eastern nations. None of this has anything to do with Margaret Sanger. Or feminism. Only a brainwashed witless clod would believe that Margaret Sanger represents the views of anyone who supports the right of women to terminate unwanted pregnancies.
Sanger was also an advocate of highly restrictive immigration policies, which puts her at odds with the dumb right wing propaganda you're regurgitating. In one sentence, you claim pro-immigration policies are a conspiracy to increase the voting base of Democrats and you're too dumb to understand the contradiction of the same Democrats being black baby killers - eliminating potential voters among the most Democrat-friendly race in America. Hilarious.

Everything you said is false or lies.

Beyonna is caught recorded talking to her boyfriend in jail and have surveillance evidence to go to the trap house... YOU ARE CLEARLY getting your news from one sided media.


feminisms = female = fem = feminine
It has nothing to do with equality and what do you know about America?
Women simply want to be men.

You are hilarious and uneducated cheesy
Re: Abortion: Head Of US Bishops' Conference Warns Biden by Theoutsider: 3:55am On Jan 23, 2021
Obi1kenobi:


Insulting my intelligence is no substitute for constructing a coherent argument. I'm not impressed by any riffraff hiding behind his anonymous moniker to ramble about "IQ".



No, the core point of feminism is equality. Simple. That losers like you feel threatened by a society where women are accorded greater agency and control is your cross to bear, but the social progress is here to stay unfortunately for you. It's easy to ramble about "mistakes" and accountability when it's only women that have to bear the burden of carrying an unwanted pregnancy. Black Americans have an astonishing rate of single motherhood which contributes to the cycle of poverty and general social dysfunction. You've not addressed that. Your genius solution is for more unwanted pregnancies to be carried to term for more fatherless babies that end up as more drains on the welfare system and eventual lives as thugs and gangsters with no father figures to give them balance, structure and guidance in their lives. Yet, the problem to you is "feminism". Because of course, you're just a rabid misogynist. See how you're regurgitating every single dumb ass right wing argument I've ever seen like a brainwashed zombie. And you're the clown talking about "IQ"? grin



I'm not sure why you're rambling about irrelevant things. Criminals are still entitled to civil rights in civilized societies. George Floyd robbing houses in the past was irrelevant to how he died. There is zero evidence Breonna Taylor was a drug "kingpin" beyond knowing the people who were subjects of a warrant and she herself was not the target of the raid that killed her. Again, irrelevant to how she died even if she was a drug kingpin.
And nobody aborts 9-months foetuses except there is a clear health emergency for the mother and there is no state where that is legal in the US. There is no such thing as a "soul". And yes, my body/my choice emphasizes the fact that misogynists like you who do not carry pregnancies have no right to lecture women on what they do with their bodies. If I were aborted, I would not exist. And if I don't exist, I wouldn't miss my lack of existence. So it makes zero difference to my argument. Aborted foetuses simply end up as organic waste to be disposed. There is no heavenly chamber where aborted foetuses are - living in some paradise. Maybe if you rid yourself of silly superstitions, you may reason better.



Again, your intellectual posturing here doesn't impress me. I'm not sure why you're making presumptions about my thoughts on borrowing money to build a rail system. I'm a critic of this administration on a long list of issues. Claiming your arguments are not emotional is empty posturing. Your arguments are emotional regurgitations of the right wing drivel that has saturated your head.



Washington DC deserves representation, hence their agitation for a state. They pay their taxes like everyone else and are entitled to contribute their quota to national debate. Same with Puerto Rico. The relevance of this to "feminist propaganda" beats me. You're obviously deranged. grin



Again, this rambling is irrelevant to people aborting unwanted foetuses. Nobody was arguing about whether Sanger was a eugenicist or not. I'm pointing out that all Americans - black or white, blue or pink - have the free will to make a choice. The US has some of the most restrictive abortion laws in Western democracies, and even many Eastern nations. None of this has anything to do with Margaret Sanger. Or feminism. Only a brainwashed witless clod would believe that Margaret Sanger represents the views of anyone who supports the right of women to terminate unwanted pregnancies.
Sanger was also an advocate of highly restrictive immigration policies, which puts her at odds with the dumb right wing propaganda you're regurgitating. In one sentence, you claim pro-immigration policies are a conspiracy to increase the voting base of Democrats and you're too dumb to understand the contradiction of the same Democrats being black baby killers - eliminating potential voters among the most Democrat-friendly race in America. Hilarious.

Beyonna is caught recorded talking to her boyfriend in jail and have surveillance evidence to go to the trap house... YOU ARE CLEARLY getting your news from one sided media.


feminisms = female = fem = feminine
It has nothing to do with equality and what do you know about America?
Women simply want to be men.

You are hilarious and uneducated cheesy
Re: Abortion: Head Of US Bishops' Conference Warns Biden by BigIyanga: 4:38am On Jan 23, 2021
Why do hypocritical Nigerians care more about US unborn than Nigerian birthed kids? Nigeria has 15m homeless, uneducated, unloved and uncared kids. Naija has about 3m kids in IDPs. How many have you visited and adopted?
Naija has no child support and protective laws. Why do care about US? Your bible admonishes you to do to the least of you not your superior. US is your superior. Have you collected your N300 covid indomie from ur politrickians?
Re: Abortion: Head Of US Bishops' Conference Warns Biden by Akasammyoka: 9:00am On Jan 23, 2021
Billyonaire666:



What makes you think I wouldnt have thrived in another body? Must I operate from this particular body on this consciousness spectrum without which I do not experience this realm?

Existence is not common sense, so I am not disappointed in you, yet.
you sound more religious than i thought, why not be obedient to immortal you worship because am sure he is also against abortion
Re: Abortion: Head Of US Bishops' Conference Warns Biden by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 7:39pm On Jan 23, 2021
Sterope:
The punishment is to seperate them from their kids, rape and torture thalema and force doctors to perform hysterectomy?

Are you an animal? Eranko ni e ni? Self-hating monkey?

That is the only logical conclusion to justify inhumane punishment.




Obama did it, what did you say?

An animal is one who commits crime with his kids. A co-animal believes the kids should be imprisoned with the parents

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