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Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by Prolific007(m): 4:07pm On Feb 02, 2021
sunshineV:
after u don soapy finish
Not everyone masturbate...but please what is wrong with humans nowadays

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Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by DrFunmisticGlow: 4:08pm On Feb 02, 2021
One can't even read 'missionary' without thinking impure thoughts.

Isn't this priest supposed to be fleeing all appearance of evil? What is he doing watching music videos?
Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by Pecuman: 4:09pm On Feb 02, 2021
MrColdsweat:


Prosperity is also another mental fabrication.

You created money, business, education etc to escape nature and to pretend about living a meaningful and purposeful life.


Mam created society because he wanted order. He was tired of the wild. He was tired of constantly facing wild animals. He was tired of fighting his fellow men over sex.

He then cleared the bushes and put animals in cages. Is this what God wants for this earth? Man has taken the freewill God gave to animals. Is this what you call prosperity?

The very fact that just about every society in the world has gravitated Historically and recently towards so called "mental fabrications" of money, business and education is evidence of its reality. If it was just a "mental frabrication" then what people consider properity and go after would be highly variable.

And the uniting feature of these is increased Energy, Variety and good availability and variety in to total and per input effort, as well as security, of course. The drive towards these are as natural as living in the bush and the main reason why early man didn't immediately go for it was that the barriers of going from Hunter-Gatherer to town dwellers was very high.

The moment population and climactic pressures increased the barriers to remaining Hunter-Gatherer, Man became a town dweller. The same drives that told him to be a Hunter-Gatherer in bountiful nature, told him to become an agrarian town dweller in desertified river vallies.

So in my view as either outcome is the result of man's nature with the only major difference being different environmental conditions (initially purely nature but more and more man influneced as well), either is as "natural as the other".

And I don't see animals having any freewill. Even Human freewill is more limited than we like to admit.

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Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by Pecuman: 4:11pm On Feb 02, 2021
Prolific007:

Not everyone masturbate...but please what is wrong with humans nowadays

Yeah, like Jesus. It is like they all wish everyone is as desperate and pathetic as themselves so they force everyone into it.
Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by BabaIbo: 4:11pm On Feb 02, 2021
Wittyduchess:
Lol, you sound sexually repressed hence you are this concerned about a shadow in a red light.


Your body do you tirinrin when you watched the videos? grin grin. Did you have wet dream after watching it? ,did your penis release pre-cum after watching? grin grin grin.



You are directing this trash to the wrong person grin...

You know you have to be truthful always irrespective of your sexual experience.

Talking about repressiveness, tell that to another person because I have had more count/round/sex etc. higher than your age in number but does that mean I should not say the truth?
Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by Pecuman: 4:13pm On Feb 02, 2021
MrColdsweat:
Good and bad are subjective. This is fact and not debatable.

Every society has heavy punishments for Murder, what those societies interprete as heavy only vary because of their different historic and current material conditions.

And that is just one.

Why else do you think people don't just immediately start fighting each other when they encounter new people and can actually rudimentally interact.
Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by Bombolistic: 4:15pm On Feb 02, 2021
Biko, ask him what he was doing there, by checking TikTok?
Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by Originalsly: 4:16pm On Feb 02, 2021
Pecuman:


If we are expected to be morally perfect before criticizing anything, then nobody will be able to criticize anything.

And while the Catholic Church's performance is policing the pedophilia issue hasn't been the most Stella, they have been doing it.

So I think under the condition that they are already morally policing themselves, they have the right to criticize others.


Policing themselves by force. Pressure has to be put on them to address such immorality. He can be a great help in speaking out ... encouraging other priests to speak out and be leaders by examples.
Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by UncommonLogic: 4:17pm On Feb 02, 2021
[[s]quote author=Prolific007 post=98672949]

Why Cancel It Like It's Not Valid?? Anyway A Dæmon Spotted. Not Every One With Flesh And Blood That Has A Surname...But If You're Then I Will Call You A Pervert[/quote][/s]
Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by Ubenedictus(m): 4:18pm On Feb 02, 2021
elnath:
The priest is obsessed with sex too, apparently. He never spoke up against the Fulani herdsmen invasion of our farmlands, I didn’t read about his support for the #Endsarz protests. He has never written against bad governance, rape, child molestation, domestic violence but the silhouette challenge has him creeping out of his hole to offer an opinion. Father, go grab your Vaseline and keep up the good work.
do you follow the priest to know what he speaks about, why make a conclusion from ignorance?
Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by MrColdsweat: 4:21pm On Feb 02, 2021
Pecuman:


The very fact that just about every society in the world has gravitated Historically and recently towards so called "mental fabrications" of money, business and education is evidence of its reality. If it was just a "mental frabrication" then what people consider properity and go after would be highly variable.

And the uniting feature of these is increased Energy, Variety and good availability and variety in to total and per input effort, as well as security, of course. The drive towards these are as natural as living in the bush and the main reason why early man didn't immediately go for it was that the barriers of going from Hunter-Gatherer to town dwellers was very high.

The moment population and climactic pressures increased the barriers to remaining Hunter-Gatherer, Man became a town dweller. The same drives that told him to be a Hunter-Gatherer in bountiful nature, told him to become an agrarian town dweller in desertified river vallies.

So in my view as either outcome is the result of man's nature with the only major difference being different environmental conditions (initially purely nature but more and more man influneced as well), either is as "natural as the other".

And I don't see animals having any freewill. Even Human freewill is more limited than we like to admit.


Stop embarrassing yourself. Money is not natural. Man created Money. Everything you need to survive is abundant in nature.

I do not want to deviate with you.

My point is, women, men and animals are all born naked. Because men are comfortable in their slavish laws, men should not expect women to remain slaves to the laws like men. They should not condemn women for going against moral laws.

Women are enjoying their freedom because they have gone against the definition of "women", a definition imposed on them by men, and they have offered men the chance to enjoy freedom. But men cannot imagine being equal to women because it is part of the laws of men.(man is the head of the family, man must protect women etc)

Tell me, asides pride, what would men lose if women eventually eliminate bride price?

Men must not only stop condemning women, men must also emulate women and go against the traditional definition of " man"(a slave), so that he can be free and live longer.
Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by Nobody: 4:22pm On Feb 02, 2021
BabaIbo:


You are directing this trash to the wrong person grin...

You know you have to be truthful always irrespective of your sexual experience.

Talking about repressiveness, tell that to another person because I have had more count/round/sex etc. higher than your age in number but does that mean I should not say the truth?
So what does this make you ? A hypocrite,same with all the rest people who seem to be fixated on this.What is there in the shadow of a red light that you haven't seen before seeing that you have a reputation for your sexual prowess undecided.


If God decides that he will punish the world because a bunch of women decided to dance seductively in a red light ,oh well we are all doomed then grin grin grin.may day,may day hell fire is here ,fire and brime stone will be falling on our heads soon tongue tongue
Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by criuze(m): 4:23pm On Feb 02, 2021
since sigmond frued propounded his sexual analytical theory the world never recovered
Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by Ubenedictus(m): 4:24pm On Feb 02, 2021
DrFunmisticGlow:
One can't even read 'missionary' without thinking impure thoughts.

Isn't this priest supposed to be fleeing all appearance of evil? What is he doing watching music videos?
he is a priest doesn't mean he live in a cave abeg
Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by MrColdsweat: 4:26pm On Feb 02, 2021
Pecuman:


Every society has heavy punishments for Murder, what those societies interprete as heavy only vary because of their different historic and current material conditions.

And that is just one.

Why else do you think people don't just immediately start fighting each other when they encounter new people and can actually rudimentally interact.

Only human societies. Human societies have punishments for murder because of man's moral laws. In the true state of nature, there is no punishment for murder.

Tell me, what is the punishment for the Lion for eating a sheep?


Let me end it here.

Man is the symbol of culture/society. Woman is the symbol of nature.

Society tamed nature for centuries. But nature is fighting back.

Stop judging women for going naked. You are born naked and unclothedness is natural. You chose to create laws to force yourself to wear clothes. Women had every right to take off their clothes. Afterall, they did not create those laws with you.


Stop judging women for using their bodies anyhow they want. Stop bothering yourself with what they do with their pussies. You see how the dogs, chickens, and other animals Bleep around and reproduce? Why don't you get mad at them? Can't you see that you are wired like them to constantly reproduce and fill the earth?

The purposes of art, are appreciation and perfection. Perfection is inhuman. But you can appreciate. Stop condemning women and start appreciating them.

When you look at your mother, do you ever think of the numerous men she's slept with in this life? Even if your mother has slept with numerous men, does it stop you from loving her?

Why bother yourself with the number of men other women have slept with?

Men must stop insisting on their laws and start appreciating nature.
Start appreciating women.
They are nature in human form.
Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by Ghostmode2two(m): 4:26pm On Feb 02, 2021
BabaIbo:


You don pursue that guy from this thread with this your honest and realistic question?

cheesy
grin
In fact I vex when I read wetin he write
Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by sunshineV(f): 4:30pm On Feb 02, 2021
Prolific007:

Not everyone masturbate...but please what is wrong with humans nowadays
werey l'everybody
Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by Bimpe29: 4:42pm On Feb 02, 2021
Man of God is absolutely right. The obsession for sex is alarming and harmful the global morality.

Suffice it to conclude that, sex and sexuality are fast destroying peace, tranquility as well as harmony across diverse society.
Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by BabaIbo: 4:43pm On Feb 02, 2021
Wittyduchess:
So what does this make you ? A hypocrite same with all the rest people who seem to be fixated on this.What is there in the shadow of a red light that you haven't seen before seeing that you have a reputation for your sexual prowess undecided.


If God decides that he will punish the world because a bunch of women decided to dance seductively in a red light ,oh well we are all doomed then grin grin grin.may day,may day hell fire is here ,fire and brime stone will be falling on our heads soon tongue tongue


Stop using words wrongly, young lady/man.

Are you without sin?

Let's leave judgement for God.

Yes, I had those escaped in the past e.g during my secondary school days, university days, NYSC days, few years back etc.
But, I have come to realize it is what it is and doing it doesn't make it right.

We all sin, the main thing is realizing and asking for forgiveness and moving on.

So because I did that in the past and I am now supporting his points, that makes me a hypocrite?

If you are still doing it, desist from it.
Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by Sammiel: 4:47pm On Feb 02, 2021
southniyikaye:
my concern is, how did the catholic priest know how to give a detailed explanation about the challenge if he didn't watch it to his satisfaction?
Why not focus on the message and spare the messenger? Watching it to his satisfaction still doesn't change the fact that the actors of the devilish challenge need to be cautioned. Besides, he is an ordained priest and as such he has to do what he was called to do - Preach the truth!
Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by BabaIbo: 4:48pm On Feb 02, 2021
Ubenedictus:
he is a priest doesn't mean he live in a cave abeg

Don't mind them.

They think once someone becomes a priest, he should not watch movies, music videos, go to the beach, gatherings etc.
Forgetting that some priests are lecturers, doctors, engineers, lawyers, scientists. etc.

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Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by Pecuman: 4:49pm On Feb 02, 2021
MrColdsweat:


Only human societies. Human societies have punishments for murder because of man's moral laws. In the true state of nature, there is no punishment for murder.

Tell me, what is the punishment for the Lion for eating a sheep?


Let me end it here.

Man is the symbol of culture/society. Woman is the symbol of nature.

Society tamed nature for centuries. But nature is fighting back.

Stop judging women for going naked. You are born naked and unclothedness is natural. You chose to create laws to force yourself to wear clothes. Women had every right to take off their clothes. Afterall, they did not create those laws with you.


Stop judging women for using their bodies anyhow they want. Stop bothering yourself with what they do with their pussies. You see how the dogs, chickens, and other animals Bleep around and reproduce? Why don't you get mad at them? Can't you see that you are wired like them to constantly reproduce and fill the earth?

The purposes of art, are appreciation and perfection. Perfection is inhuman. But you can appreciate. Stop condemning women and start appreciating them.

When you look at your mother, do you ever think of the numerous men she's slept with in this life? Even if your mother has slept with numerous men, does it stop you from loving her?

Why bother yourself with the number of men other women have slept with?

Men must stop insisting on their laws and start appreciating nature.
Start appreciating women.
They are nature in human form.

I am not some animal, I am Human, the greatest if all Beasts and the Beast with the spirit of God in it.

Man is as natural as anything else included in "nature".

And actually this whole "stop judging" is unnatural. Humans are highly social creature, isolation is one of the worst punishments to us and Judging is part of the process of social interaction. So it is my and others natural right to mold the social interaction patterns of one another.

Perfection being inhuman is no reason not to strive towards it. It are already like children of God by having God in us why shouldn't we devote our lives to strive away from the imperfection of Beasts to the Perfection of Gods.

She hasn't slept with much, she's as Fundie from a young age but the rest of your statement is correct.

Stop acting like women didn't input into the laws of society. They did, they did alot and it is a constant pattern we see. Igbo societies literally had parallel organizations for women, the works of female saint and Empress Theodora influenced the secular and ecclesiastical laws of Europe and the Harem of the Sultan had ran Sultanates and Caliphates for different times.
Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by Pecuman: 4:50pm On Feb 02, 2021
Sammiel:
Why not focus on the message and spare the messenger? Watching it to his satisfaction still doesn't change the fact that the actors of the devilish challenge need to be cautioned. Besides, he is an ordained priest and as such he has to do what he was called to do - Preach the truth!

Abeg, the guy you responded to is just looking for excuse to justify his debaucherous life style

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Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by OgaNurse: 4:52pm On Feb 02, 2021
Yeayeah
The catholic church not quite long offered the highest payout for sex allegations.
Can we agree that they're obsessed with sex and the 'unclothedness' of young boys??

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Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by BabaIbo: 4:53pm On Feb 02, 2021
Ghostmode2two:

In fact I vex when I read wetin he write

Them full this site.

They talk without reasoning.
Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by Nobody: 4:53pm On Feb 02, 2021
Hammyaladin:
True! you try to download a movie, you get redirected to a porn site!

In school, you see girls displaying clavage up and down, and when asked, they say freedom of dressing! Why aren't men displaying their balls up and down?!!!!

If the white man Prioritized sex @ the beginning, we wouldn't have been enjoying the internet and every other development we enjoy today.

life isn't all about sex. for God sake we aren't Animals!!

But what do I know?!!
We are animals, the only difference is that we can reason.
Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by Wolfeye: 4:58pm On Feb 02, 2021
If this man ain’t gay then my eyes don’t work.

Anyway... nobody cares either way.
Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by Nobody: 5:00pm On Feb 02, 2021
BabaIbo:


Stop using words wrongly, young lady/man.

Are you without sin?

Let's leave judgement for God.

Yes, I had those escaped in the past e.g during my secondary school days, university days, NYSC days, few years back etc.
But, I have come to realize it is what it is and doing it doesn't make it right.

We all sin, the main thing is realizing and asking for forgiveness and moving on.

So because I did that in the past and I am now supporting his points, that makes me a hypocrite?

If you are still doing it, desist from it.
The bolded ,you should take your own advice and stop fussing about people dancing in a red light.



Or you think by castigating and saying demean words about people will make them in your own words "desist" ?.


I am glad the women of this generation are learning to develop a thick skin ,una go wail tire or better still creat another earth for your selves. Last time I checked no one was left in charge by God ,so long as no murder or crime was committed all I see is rants and wailing from a group misogynist garnished with Religious extremism.
Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by Pecuman: 5:01pm On Feb 02, 2021
MrColdsweat:



Stop embarrassing yourself. Money is not natural. Man created Money. Everything you need to survive is abundant in nature.

I do not want to deviate with you.

My point is, women, men and animals are all born naked. Because men are comfortable in their slavish laws, men should not expect women to remain slaves to the laws like men. They should not condemn women for going against moral laws.

Women are enjoying their freedom because they have gone against the definition of "women", a definition imposed on them by men, and they have offered men the chance to enjoy freedom. But men cannot imagine being equal to women because it is part of the laws of men.(man is the head of the family, man must protect women etc)

Tell me, asides pride, what would men lose if women eventually eliminate bride price?

Men must not only stop condemning women, men must also emulate women and go against the traditional definition of " man"(a slave), so that he can be free and live longer.

Money was created by a natural creature (Man) pursuing a natural instinct (drive for prosperity) thus I say it is natural. Are Ant Hills and Beaver Dams not natural now?

Christianity is usually used as a prime example of those "slavish" laws and according to Tacitus, in the first century it was "a religion of Women and Slaves", women consistently rank more for Church attendance than men and so on. Obviously their men aren't forcing them into it and they are conforming to so called "slavish" laws by themselves.

So the the claim that only men go by those "slavish" laws is false in my book.

Perfect. You see the reciprocality of these laws right? Man must provide for Family, thus man is head of family. Haven't u seen NG marriages where the woman provides and is in practice the head?

Same applies to woman. Woman takes care of House, Woman is protected and provided for by man.

These aren't men imposing laws on women, these are practical, reciprocal and stndardized answers to questions of social organization. Men get the benefit of power and women get the benefit of security in most of these agreements because it is the one that optimizes their biological abilities and limitations.

Obviously both Men and Women would like both Security and Power but you can't have your cake and eat it too.

The father not getting some good insert of capital. The Father not getting some more evidence that yes, this man can provide.

Yeah, I and many priests am all for men emulating the traditional stereotype of goo woman and not sleep around.
Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by Pecuman: 5:02pm On Feb 02, 2021
CamusMidas:

We are animals, the only difference is that we can reason.

And that reason is why we are the greatest of all Beasts.

We shouldn't be constantly trying to degrade ourselves back to the level of other Beasts.
Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by judedwriter(m): 5:08pm On Feb 02, 2021
Matthew 5
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
²⁸ But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

²⁹ And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

³⁰ And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Re: Father Kelvin Ugwu Speaks On #SilhouetteChallenge by Nobody: 5:15pm On Feb 02, 2021
MrColdsweat:
Rev father please have sense.

If God wanted you to wear clothes, he would have created you with robes or native and shoes in your mothers Belle.

You are no different from other animals. You were born naked like them.

But your fellow men decided to enslave women by forcing laws on them. They forced clothes on women.

Women are taking the clothes off, so that they can be natural.

Why are you all angry that women are comfortable in their bodies?

Since when did being naked become a sin?

If you like, buy expensive food for your dog, the dog will enter the bush once in a while to eat shit.

Nature will always win.

No matter the number of goats you give to a caged lion, it will still want its freedom.

No matter how much you get angry, you have to accept that we are naturally naked and clothes are man-made. Women have every right To go against the laws of men.


Please, look beyond gender norms and see that women are taking us back to the default state of nature.
Naturalist


Go and burn all your clothes and start moving around naked, it's natural

Don't use vehicles again use foot or camels, it's natural

Infact go and dwell in the forest
With monkeys, natural man.

They will tell me that the world is changing,
They will say that we're in the 21st century,
Yet they'd act so barbaric
Even animals are now surprised at this stupidity.



This guy needs to be flogged

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