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Re: Ivory Coast’s Gbagbo Surrenders by andyanders: 11:19am On Apr 06, 2011 |
HE SHOULD BE EXECUTED FOR WAR CRIME. THERE IS NOTHING TO TRY HIM FOR IS ALREADY KNOWN. DO NOT WASTE TAKING HIM THROUGH TRIAL AS THIS WILL BE TAX PAYERS MONEY. EXECUTE HIM AND HIS FAMILY. |
Re: Ivory Coast’s Gbagbo Surrenders by superboi(m): 11:23am On Apr 06, 2011 |
andyanders:By what you have written it shows that given the opportunity, You would commit the same crime that you accuse Gbagbo of |
Re: Ivory Coast’s Gbagbo Surrenders by andyanders: 11:36am On Apr 06, 2011 |
[table]@superboi .By what you have written it shows that given the opportunity, You would commit the same crime that you accuse Gbagbo of[/table] THAT IS YOU. I HINK YOU MUST BE MYOPIC. IF YOU THINK RIGHT, YOU MUST KNOW IT IS WRONG FOR AFRICAN LEADERS TO BE POWER DRUNK TO THE DETRIMENT OF THE ELECTORATE. HOW COME A MAN WHO WANTS TO GOVERN BE OUT KILLING HIS PEOPLE AND NOW WANTS TO BE GRANTED AMNESTY TO LIVE? IF YOU HAVE BRAIN, PEOPLE LIKE THAT SHOULD NOT LIVE. IN CHINA, JAPAN AND SOME COUNTRIES,THEY EXECUTE THEIR LEADERS BECAUSE OF FRAUD. IF WE START EXECUTING OUR CORRUPT LEADERS HERE IN NIGERIA, IT WILL MAKE POLITICS, LESS ATRSCTIVE TO CORRUPT INDIVIDUALS, THEN DESENT PEOPLE WILL NOW COME OUT TO CONTEST. YOU SHOULD GROW UP. MAYBE YOU OR YOUR PARENTS MUST HAVE BEEN ONE OF THESE CORRUPT LEADERS, HENCE YOU ARE SUPPORTIN GBABO. |
Re: Ivory Coast’s Gbagbo Surrenders by superboi(m): 11:42am On Apr 06, 2011 |
andyanders:Look at how Blood thirsty for Gbagbo's blood because you don't agree with him , Is that not the same thing you are accusing him of??. Do you know the same Quattara you are supporting now also rejected the election result that brought Gbagbo to power and started the rebel army that led to this mess. Should he also be killed too?. |
Re: Ivory Coast’s Gbagbo Surrenders by andyanders: 11:51am On Apr 06, 2011 |
@superboi IF THE UN/ INTERNATIONAL ELECTION MONITORING TEAM HAS DECLARED QUATTARA AS THE RIGHTFUL PERSON THAT WON THE ELECTION, WHY CAN'T GHAGBO STEP DOWN AND ALLOW QUATTARA TO GOVERN? WHY MUST HE ROLE OUT ARMY AGAINST HIS PEOPLE? NOW THAT HIS HOME HAS BEEN SUROUNDED, WHY THEN HAS HE AGREED TO LEAVE? |
Re: Ivory Coast’s Gbagbo Surrenders by superboi(m): 11:57am On Apr 06, 2011 |
andyanders:My Advice to you Andyanders is this, Go and read about this issue from different sources. Read from as far back from Circa 1994 when Quattara was acting president/prime minister and sold almost all public utilities in CIV to the French and other western companies at 1 CFA franc each and tell me how western based UN would not say he won a election, And mind you it is Ivorians that also voted and are fighting for Gbagbo. And it was Quattara and his boys that have been killing people since 2002 with UN and French supplied weapons( They even burned down Drogba village recently but since it not Gbagbo it is okay). |
Re: Ivory Coast’s Gbagbo Surrenders by andyanders: 12:13pm On Apr 06, 2011 |
@superboi MY BRODA, TWO WRONGS CANNOT MAKE A RIGHT. LET US LOOK AT THIS,EVEN YOUR COUNTRY, NIGERIA ACCEPTED QUATTARA AS THE RIGHTFUL PERSON THAT WON THE ELECTION. MUST HE GBAGBO BE RIGHT BY TAKING UP ARMS SINCE HE HAS BEEN TOLD TO VACATE HIS POST? AGAIN, IF YOU AS A PERSON IS HAVING PROBLEM WITH YOUR BILOGICAL BROTHER AND THE WHOLE ELDERS PLEADED WITH YOU BY TELLING YOU TO DROP YOUR ACTION AGAINST YOUR FAMILY FOR THE INTEREST OF YOUR CHILDREN OR RELATIONS, AND THEN YOU SAY, NO. SHOULD IT BE THAT WAY? YOU MUST CONSIDER THE CHILDREN AND YOUR WIFE AND OTHERS AND ALLOW PEACE A CHANCE SINCE THE ELDERS HAS SPOKEN. |
Re: Ivory Coast’s Gbagbo Surrenders by superboi(m): 12:22pm On Apr 06, 2011 |
andyanders:You have to understand this Gbagbo have been willing to dialouge but it is Quattara that have refused to talk to Gbagbo because he knew he could kill his way through the country and remove Gbagbo. If Ecowas was as strong as SADC this wouldn't have come to this stage, But the biggest boy in the Block(our Nigeria) is being ruled by a little man (as one female analyst put it) who does not see the implication of a rebel army taking over government protend for the region in future. Tomorrow when Goodluck or whoever doesn't play ball the west will just recongnise MEND or any rebel group and Arm them!!! Finnish school don close bye bye Nigeria be dat |
Re: Ivory Coast’s Gbagbo Surrenders by andyanders: 12:43pm On Apr 06, 2011 |
@superboi MY BROTHER, I ENJOY YOUR PERSON. BUT NOTE THIS;WE SHOULD NOT BE TOO EGOTRIC IN LIFE. IF YOU HAVE A WIFE AND YOU KNOW ,YES YOU ARE THE HEAD OF THE HOUSE. IF YOUR WIFE BECOMES VIOLENT, AND PEOPLE NOW COME TO YOU AND SAY, STAY OFF AND ALLOW YOUR WIFE TO BE FOR PEACE TO REIGN. YOU MUST LISTEN AND COOL DOWN BECAUSE OF YOUR CHILDREN. WE SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN 2 ELEPHANTS FIGHT, THE GRASS SUFFER. WE ALL SHOULD LEARN TO BE VERY CAREFUL IN DOING THINGS. FIRST CONSIDER THE INTEREST OF PEOPLE ARROUND YOU. JUST LIKE WHEN YOU ARE ON A WHEEL DRIVING YOUR CAR, CONSIDER THE INTEREST OF OTHER ROAD USERS. THE SCHOOL CHILDREN, PREGNANT WOMEN, THE BLIND AND EVEN OTHER CAR USERS. LET US LEARN TO KNOW THAT WE MUST NOT ALLOW PEOPLE TO BE KILLED AS A RESULT OF OUR OWN SELFISH INTEREST. IT IS ONLY GOD THAT HASSUPREM POWER |
Re: Ivory Coast’s Gbagbo Surrenders by superboi(m): 12:55pm On Apr 06, 2011 |
andyanders:We must understand that Gbagbo was not fighting a personal battle alone(yes basic human greed was involved). we should remeber that even with the election results that the UN used to declare Quattara winner Gbagbo won 46% Of the votes and Quattara won 54% of the votes. If Gbagbo had immediatly stepped down and collected french settlement he would have been labeled a traitor by a lot of people calling him hard headed now. note even with the removal of Gbagbo peace would not reign in CIV for a long while thanks to weak regional leadership. |
Re: Ivory Coast’s Gbagbo Surrenders by superboi(m): 1:03pm On Apr 06, 2011 |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12981300 |
Re: Ivory Coast’s Gbagbo Surrenders by andyanders: 1:18pm On Apr 06, 2011 |
@superboi [b]WELL MY BROTHER, AFRICA HAS BEEN A TOOL TO THE WESTERN WORLD BECAUSE OF OUR HUMAN RESOURCES IVEN TO US BY GOD. AMERICA DON'T GO TO WAR UNLESS THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO BENEFIT FROM IT. IRAQ'S PROBLEM WAS BECAUSE AMERICA HAS SELFISH INTEREST. HAVING SEEN SADDAM HUSSEIN AS AN AUTHORITATIVE MAN, THEY USED THAT AS AN EXCUSE TO DESTROY IRAQ. IN SIERRA LEON, BECAUSE TAYLOR BECOME ARROGANT AND POWER DRUNK, HE WAS USED AS A TOOL TO DESTROY SIERRA LEON. WE SHOULD LEARN AS LEADERS IN AFRICA, EVEN NIGERIA, THEY SHOULD NOT BE POWER DRUNK BECAUSE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY =AMERICA AND BRITAIN WILL CAPITALIZE ON YOUR WEAKNESS TO ATTACK YOU. YES, THEY CAN ARM MEND TO GAIN WHAT THEY WANT. IF YOU GO TO AMERICA NOW, YOU FIND OUT THAT MOST NIGERIAN STUDENTS IN AMERICAN UNIVERSITIES ARE THE BRIGHTEST AND IMMEDIATELY THEY GRADUATE, AMERICA WILL BRAIN WASH YOU TO STAY IN AMERICA. LOOK AT AMEGWAM'S ISSUE, IT WAS OUR PEOPLE WHO STARTED CRITICIZING HIM. WE AS AFRICANS SHOULD LEARN TO KEEP TO OURSELVES AND STOP TO BE POWER DRUNK, JUST LIKE OBJ WANTED THIRD TERM.[/b] |
Re: Ivory Coast’s Gbagbo Surrenders by Makbo: 2:10pm On Apr 06, 2011 |
The problem in Ivory Coast goes futher than a simple elections standoff. That is what Nigerians should understand for good! In 2002, Gbagbo was already acting president when France perpetrated a coup d'Etat asking him to step down. At that moment, IC did not have any electoral problem to debate upon, but French government asked President Gbagbo to step down. Already in 2002, the motto was "step down". Upon Gbagbo's refusal to do so they converted the coup d'Etat into a rebellion in the northern part of Ivory Coast that became the rebellion shrine. The rebel northern stronghold (60% of the territory) remained out of government control from 2002 to 2010. Rebels were provided weapons and funding by France for eight years. In November 2004 Gbagbo launched a military action on the North to liberate the country from rebel ruling, the same France came to rescue the rebel by destroying all the ivorian Air force. Where were you Africans when all that went on? The AU cynically condemned Gbagbo for attempting to liberate his country. France since then tried to organise hastilly elections in IC so that it could declare Ouattara winner and oust Gbagbo from power, but the ivorian constitution states clearly that no elections can be handled whenever one significative portion of the territoty is out of government control. France then said Gbagbo is hiding behind the Constitution to postpone election. All african nations stand one France's side to sing tha same song. Go back to the news one year ago to have evidence of what western media said and wrote at that time. Finally Gbagbo accepted to go to election and the UNOCI had to disarm the rebels first. They did not do anything and rebels remained heavily armed. Elections were handled in the North with massive riggings so that Allassan could be declared winner. People willing to vote for Gbagbo have been intimidated raped in the poll station. All these frauds have been denounced by AU observers. The Supreme Court took its responsibility to cancel the results where all the fraud has been committed. Since that decision France declared war to Gbagbo and Ivory Coast. Here are the facts you should be mindful of before diserting uselessly on Gbagbo stepping down. How can the ivorian people can accept this kind of diktat from a bigoted western country who think he is Master in Africa? How long shall they be killing our leaders without any action from our part. Killing Gbagbo will not resolve the ivorian crisis. The thing is Ivorians are fed of French people. |
Re: Ivory Coast’s Gbagbo Surrenders by beeke(m): 3:17pm On Apr 06, 2011 |
When will Africa and it it is always easy for our rulers to blame the west when they fall out of favor with them, have you ever heard that a formal dictator or a formal president in Africa kept his stolen money on African soil. NO instead it is always in UK, SWISS or ASIAN COUNTRIES thereby impoverishing his own people. the truth is that our Pharaohous rulers in Africa has sold Africa for a porridge of rice to their masters in the west. the NEW WORLD ORDER is just in it Quarter-final stage |
Re: Ivory Coast’s Gbagbo Surrenders by MyJoe: 3:58pm On Apr 06, 2011 |
Makbo:The United States, acting in concert with the UK and other Western powers, manipulated Nigeria’s elections chief so that materials did not arrive on time and the election would be postponed so that they can continue to steal Nigeria’s oil! Anybody that refuses to see this FACT is a Western stooge and is blind and is feeding on BBC propaganda. Pure conjecture. Makbo:And, pray, WHY does France hate monsieur le professeur Gbagbo so much? Be creative – provide a motive. Oh, I heard someone mention "French business interest". That must be it! Gbagbo refused to protect French businesses in Cote d'Ivoire throughout his time in government and Quatarra has vowed to protect them! Makbo:Yeah. Just the small percentage of vote required to give Mr Gbagbo victory was rigged and the rigging just happened at some village in the North where people voted for Quatarra. There was no rigging whatsoever in the areas where people voted for Mr Gbagbo, so the Supreme Court had to step in and act on behalf of God by saving Ivory Coast from the great injustice represented by those figures. Great court! Makbo:I wish you had bothered to supply any fact instead of conjectures – America incited Tunisians and Egyptians to go into the streets so that those regimes can fall and Russia and China will lose and America can steal Middle Eastern oil and Nigeria is next and . . . Honestly, I can’t even tell you how tired and nauseated I am at all these shifting of blames for our problems, created by our own hands, on the West. Now, please answer the following questions: [b]* When in the 80’s Gbagbo was arrested on the orders of then Prime Minister Quatarra and France mounted pressure for his release and he was released into exile in Franch, who was called a French puppet then? * Where did Gbagbo go on exile when he was fighting Houphouet-Boigny? * When the rebels almost overran Abidjan in 2002 was it not the French troops who created a buffer zone that prevented them from doing so? * During the last elections, why did Gbagbo hire a French company to run his campaign while Quatarra hire an Ivorien company? * There was a first round election. When you say “Elections were handled in the North with massive riggings” which round are you referring to, since your candidate did not dispute the first round which he won before Bedie directed his supporters who come from the central part of the country to vote for Quattarra. Can you, sir, demonstrate that the second round results did not correlate with the first round results to prove your assertion of “massive riggings” in the second round? * Did Gbagbo ask for a recount immediately disputes (inspired by him) broke out or did he not rush straight to his ethnically-bigoted friends in the Constitutional council who declared that the election was rigged, invalidated some votes and then declared him winner based on the same election? * And, pray, why has your candidate been using murder and intimidation as a means to retain power? How many Ivoriens need die just so monsieur le professeur who is himself no kamikaze can continue to rule? What is wrong with most of these "African leaders"?[/b] |
Re: Ivory Coast’s Gbagbo Surrenders by congoshine(m): 4:40pm On Apr 06, 2011 |
MyJoe:I was about to comment again until I read the above intellgently structured arguments. . . .I needn't say more. People always play the 'vitim' card whenever things aren't going their way in life. Whether its muslims blaming US & Israel for all their poblems or Nigerians blaming hausa people for their problems its the same everywhere. GBAGBO should be shot at the first opportunity. Raila Odinga - the Kenyan Prime Minister who went through similar travails to reclaim his mandate and has visited Ivory Coast TWO TIMES to help negotiate a solution as the AFRICAN UNION representative ,said whenever he was alone with GBAGBO he would sound cooperative and willing to compromise,but whenever HIS WIFE AND SUPPORTERS were with him ,he would put up a defiant face 7 say he would not step down. If indeed the elections were rigged,why was he hastily declared the winner & sworn in? This same problem came up in Kenya,Zimbabwe & Nigeria. The whole world has had enough of all these crappy dishonest politicians. |
Re: Ivory Coast’s Gbagbo Surrenders by Sunofgod(m): 5:38pm On Apr 06, 2011 |
He should have taken cyanide - See ridicule. |
Re: Ivory Coast’s Gbagbo Surrenders by oluwabamis(m): 9:20pm On Apr 06, 2011 |
I just hope JEG wont offer him any assylum. |
Re: Ivory Coast’s Gbagbo Surrenders by Sunofgod(m): 9:29pm On Apr 06, 2011 |
De Ja Vu [flash=400,400] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muxuHR8Uwu8&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/flash] |
Re: Ivory Coast’s Gbagbo Surrenders by jobadmin(m): 4:35am On Apr 07, 2011 |
this is great and good news |
Re: Ivory Coast’s Gbagbo Surrenders by Ibomade1: 10:54pm On Apr 07, 2011 |
I am not sure most people here know what is really going on in that Country. Nairalander always take the Western Media reports with a pinch of salt. Ivory Coast is about to jump from frying pan to fire |
Re: Ivory Coast’s Gbagbo Surrenders by megawave(m): 5:51pm On Apr 09, 2011 |
I believe Ivory coast is about to witness another dictator, why will the elected president address the nation when u claim u av not captured Gbagbo, claiming he is hiding in a bunker and yet we av seen Gbagbo's soldiers captured as prisoner of war. who is fooling who, is it the French or Mr elected president.
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Re: Ivory Coast’s Gbagbo Surrenders by Gbenge77(m): 1:23pm On Apr 14, 2011 |
He was captured by the Quattara militia with some help from the French |
Re: Ivory Coast’s Gbagbo Surrenders by aribisala0(m): 1:34pm On Apr 14, 2011 |
i wonder what he thinks about the elections in nigeria |
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