Pukkah:

How do the lives of those who attend the church become more interesting?  I know a number of guys who go there and whose lives are not more colourful than those of their non-Winners-chapel-going counterparts.  In fact, one of them (very committed) once worked with and reported to me and I can tell you that his productivity was the lowest in the team.  He DID not stand out in any way. So what the heck?

Whether you are religious or not, good things will happen to you.  Regardless of whether or not you attend Winners, unpleasant things will happen to you.  Why do you guys mystify these things in your lazy and intensive search for miracles and riches that do not follow logic?

dare2think:

Another ignorant response from a deluded individual. Equating criticism with JeAlousy. Are there any sensible OYedepo apologists? Those that have posting so far are just disappointing? Can you guys just be objective for once. Geez.

EarsWide:

@Defenders of the fraudster Oyedepo

I see you are dodging my questions, here they are again:

1) Where does his money come from - if not from your tithes and offering ? Before you say oil rig or some other nonsense make sure you tell us the name of the oil company. [color=#990000]The ministry's finance is divorced from the pastoral aspect of  the ministry. So, Oyedepo does not take offering nor tithe. Has stopped taking salary long time ago. You want to know where he gets his money? come to church[/color].

2) Why are his children in charge of the churches in London and New York - is the annointing now family based ?
I think most of his children studied abroad, and they are older in the ministry than some others who are also humble servants in some developed countries. He brought up his children in the fear of the lord.
3) Why do his/your universities charge more than public ones if the money to run them is coming from tithes and offerings ?
Oyedepo is a very skilled and intelligent man. His vision for the schools is to be among the best in the world. If you think education is expensive try ignorance.
4) Why does he condemn borrowing - yet you can donate online to his church with a credit card ? Free giving is not borrowing. One of the richest men of God is Kenneth Copeland. He still encourages people to be partners in his ministry. He could fund it himself if he wanted. you want to be blessed, you have to get into a covenant by first giving.

Lastly how can he or you call yourselves christians and think there is some genuine explanation for him/or your church owing 4 planes in the midst of so much poverty!!!
In your mind, would be so important to you if we gathered by the Lagos beach instead of the record breaking auditorium reputed to be the biggest in the world?  You wouldn't understand until you come to church.

For those who think he's puffed up, see Ps 34:2.

We have all been there before. When God touches you, you will be on the fore front of the vanguard to destroy mental enslavement and limitation of the people of Africa.  cos to some, It is ok to be poor, but why the hell are they rich?. MAY THE LORD DELIVER YOU!

stildude:

I say it again, you are just jealous of the man's achievement. Would the issue have taken your attention, if he were one of those so called ''men of God'' that walk barefooted in Lagos ringing bells and taking money from commuters inside molues? If no, then you are jealous deluded hypocrite. I think you are also an anti- christ. Wow, I can see 666 on your fore head. Satan get Lost!

stildude:

This man has written books that have sold millions of copies worldwide, yet does not take the proceeds, instead, everything goes into the ministry.

Deduke:

U people better stop gossiping men of God and channel your energies into something more productive that will not get u and your generation into trouble. Dis they say it was Dr. David Oyedepo's jet or the ministry, Its a church remember, and a large one at that, what is wrong with them having as many jets as possible to propagate the gospel, or is he using it for parties and picking up ladies, did he take your money?, did u give offering to him or to God?, or you guys that are complaint, is it your money/?
Do u guys ever stop to wonder how many jets do you think the catholic church has (i.e. the Pope/ vatican) or how rich the church is (so would you then say the pope is a thief and a cunman), you people should remember that @the earth is the Lord and the fullness thereoff, and that when  you seek the Kingdom and God, all toher things shall be added onto you (miracle, money, health etc)

So be careful, The man has done more than any politician in your counttry can vever do, Did he steal from you? Caution  Caution Caution, Watch your mouth and bridle your toungs, TOUCH NOR MY ANNOINTED AND DO MY PROPHET NO HAM (either with your month, your pen or your keyboard). Thank you

fstranger3:

^^^

Olori awom omo mo-r-o0-n

Ki lon shele ni agbole awon reetards? Are you still the king? May your reign last forever!

stildude:

This man has written books that have sold millions of copies worldwide, yet does not take the proceeds, instead, everything goes into the ministry.

Deltagal:

harakiri, u stop believing God because u have asked questions from a few christians and didnt get answers? U call God a non-existent Jewish god because organised religion has failed u? The hypocrisy in the churches and other forms of religion has spanned ages. Has your spirituality also failed u? Organised religion has failed the world over Christian or no but individual spirituality is intrinsic to d existence of man. U have  a Bible, have u read it through severally? If u address any subject on earth with the same cynicism and criticism as u do the existence of God do u think u would prove the veracity any school of thought?

I would love to have broad minded and open ended discussions with u, untainted by emotional reactions to any experience u have had past or present.

The subject of God, his existence, his personality and his ways can be far more enriching than u presently realise. U wanna try? Or your mind made up?

stildude:

This man has written books that have sold millions of copies worldwide, yet does not take the proceeds, instead, everything goes into the ministry.

dare2think:

@ sensible folks

Ignorant people should never impose their feudal ideologies on us. We must never accept. So sane mindS should keep asking questions, that's the only way to expose them.

Did Jesus need  5000 horses to spread the gospel? He had everyright to request it as he was genuine, performing miracles everyone could see.

What does a pastor need private jets for? When kids are dying of hunger in Nigeria/Africa / world.

This is not what jesus died for. To get one of his messengers cruising around in  jets while his other children are dying of hunger around the world.

KunleOshob:

@Deduke

For the record neither the pope nor the catholic church owns a single Jet despite being the richest religious organization in the world. The pope and his entourage normally travel by chartered flight any time they want to travel. They would rather use their riches to finance charities all over the world than use it to massage their egos like that fraudster oyedepo does. And it is sickening your claims that jets are needed to spread the gospel, this can only be lie the devil put in your hearts to justify Oledepo's crimes

Pukkah:

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How many books has he written? What is the annual turnover (in specific naira amount) of these books? Don't prevaricate, just answer the questions.

Delafruita:

@harakiri.
It's virtually impossible to find any evidence of the bible been the word of God except from the bible and probably from the quran which says the holy book "torah" which is the equivalent of the first five books of the old testament was revealed to prophet musa(moses) and that the holy book "injil" or bible was revealed to prophet isa or jesus.however it is claimed by islamic clerics that the book revelaed to isa is different from the one been peddled around today.it is on record that the bible as we know it today was put together by the council of nicea in 325AD.it was an act of selective inclusion and exclusion based on the personal opinion and wishes of emperor constantine and the bishops of his day.it is said that the bible was written by men who were inspired by God.i do not choose to dispute.after studying the bible,its evident that the old testament was a book plainly on the history of isreal as pertains to religion which was most likely written by historians of different ages.historians and archeologists have found a lot of evidence to back up biblical stories.for example davids's conduits have been found,sennacherib's images depicting his war against isreal has been found amidst the assyrian ruins,emperor tutakamen's relics also provide evidence to another story in bible,all this however still donot give evidence that the bible was inspired by God,it simply confirms the bible is historically accurate.the new testament is a book which contains books by apostles of jesus narrating happenings in his life from their perspective.its possible they were inspired by God just as it is possiible they depended on hearsay and personal opinion.it's also curios that the gospel according to barnabas(the man who introduced saulcum paul to the others) was not included in the bible.its also curious that almost half of the new testament was writtn by paul,who never met jesus.the truth is jesus never wrote anything,he never even talked about a holy book,this came about 325 years after his death and almost 225 years after paul's death.truth is even if these men were inspired by God to write,the bible wasnt compiled by them,rather it was compiled by a pagan emperor who had an agenda,along with catholic bishops who decided to include aspects that will support their views and excluded those that did not.personallly i accept the bible as God's word even though a lot of time a lot of its content get me thinking but after studying widely,i got to understand a lot of things,though not everything.

thameamead:

@sagamite
Sir, Oyedepo is not different from David Cameron who you think flew to Majorca on Ryanair because he wanted to, Mr Cameron is nothing but a Master of spin, it was a publicity stunt to show he could live like ordinary people despite him bn a millionaire, evertthing he does is planned or scripted, he use to work in PR before he was given a safe seat in Withey,Oxfordshire.

Mr Cameron claimed large amounts of taxpayers money for mortgage interests on his £1M constituency home in Withey,Oxfordshire after paying off the mortage on his £2M london home, he claimed the maximum amount, infact he claimed the most in mortgage interest than any MP

Mr Cameron used taxpayers money to pay for utility bills, repairs including cleaning wisteris vines from a chimney, resealing his conservatory roof and replacing outside lights @ his Oxford home.

You seem very adept in Uk politics. I agree with your statements. Thanks for the correction of the analogy used in this case.

Mr Cameron initially put his personal photographer on taxpayers payroll until the left wing media leaked the story and their was public uproar, then he did a U-turn, don't forget he was not voted in by the public, he did not get a majority win despite the Murdoch mafia (The SUN @ THE TIMES) endorsing him, Rupert Murdoch endorsed Mr Camerom in exchange of Mr Cameron allowing Murdoch to buy the remainning shares in BSKYB. Murdoch is a foreigner who weighs too much power in the Uk, everybody is terrifired of crossing his path including the Metropolitan Police, Thank God for people like George Galloway, hopefully his Bksyb takeover won't go ahead.

Mr Cameron refused to establish whether Lord Ashcrof who was one of the biggest donors of the Tory Scums paid Uk taxes, Lord Ashcroft who has sustantial stakes in websites like ConservativesHome and PoliticsHomes, he owns main forums in which members of the party speak to each other. turns out Lord Ashcroft has invaded paying £113M in tax, that amount would stop a couple of centres for disabled and old people from closing due to the cuts,

Delafruita:

@harakiri.
It's virtually impossible to find any evidence of the bible been the word of God except from the bible and probably from the quran which says the holy book "torah" which is the equivalent of the first five books of the old testament was revealed to prophet musa(moses) and that the holy book "injil" or bible was revealed to prophet isa or jesus.however it is claimed by islamic clerics that the book revelaed to isa is different from the one been peddled around today.it is on record that the bible as we know it today was put together by the council of nicea in 325AD.it was an act of selective inclusion and exclusion based on the personal opinion and wishes of emperor constantine and the bishops of his day.it is said that the bible was written by men who were inspired by God.i do not choose to dispute.after studying the bible,its evident that the old testament was a book plainly on the history of isreal as pertains to religion which was most likely written by historians of different ages.historians and archeologists have found a lot of evidence to back up biblical stories.for example davids's conduits have been found,sennacherib's images depicting his war against isreal has been found amidst the assyrian ruins,emperor tutakamen's relics also provide evidence to another story in bible,all this however still donot give evidence that the bible was inspired by God,it simply confirms the bible is historically accurate.the new testament is a book which contains books by apostles of jesus narrating happenings in his life from their perspective.its possible they were inspired by God just as it is possiible they depended on hearsay and personal opinion.it's also curios that the gospel according to barnabas(the man who introduced saulcum paul to the others) was not included in the bible.its also curious that almost half of the new testament was writtn by paul,who never met jesus.the truth is jesus never wrote anything,he never even talked about a holy book,this came about 325 years after his death and almost 225 years after paul's death.truth is even if these men were inspired by God to write,the bible wasnt compiled by them,rather it was compiled by a pagan emperor who had an agenda,along with catholic bishops who decided to include aspects that will support their views and excluded those that did not.personallly i accept the bible as God's word even though a lot of time a lot of its content get me thinking but after studying widely,i got to understand a lot of things,though not everything.

thameamead:

@sagamite
Sir, Oyedepo is not different from David Cameron who you think flew to Majorca on Ryanair because he wanted to, Mr Cameron is nothing but a Master of spin, it was a publicity stunt to show he could live like ordinary people despite him bn a millionaire, evertthing he does is planned or scripted, he use to work in PR before he was given a safe seat in Withey,Oxfordshire.

Mr Cameron claimed large amounts of taxpayers money for mortgage interests on his £1M constituency home in Withey,Oxfordshire after paying off the mortage on his £2M london home, he claimed the maximum amount, infact he claimed the most in mortgage interest than any MP

Mr Cameron used taxpayers money to pay for utility bills, repairs including cleaning wisteris vines from a chimney, resealing his conservatory roof and replacing outside lights @ his Oxford home.

Mr Cameron initially put his personal photographer on taxpayers payroll until the left wing media leaked the story and their was public uproar, then he did a U-turn, don't forget he was not voted in by the public, he did not get a majority win despite the Murdoch mafia (The SUN @ THE TIMES) endorsing him, Rupert Murdoch endorsed Mr Camerom in exchange of Mr Cameron allowing Murdoch to buy the remainning shares in BSKYB. Murdoch is a foreigner who weighs too much power in the Uk, everybody is terrifired of crossing his path including the Metropolitan Police, Thank God for people like George Galloway, hopefully his Bksyb takeover won't go ahead.

Mr Cameron refused to establish whether Lord Ashcrof who was one of the biggest donors of the Tory Scums paid Uk taxes, Lord Ashcroft who has sustantial stakes in websites like ConservativesHome and PoliticsHomes, he owns main forums in which members of the party speak to each other. turns out Lord Ashcroft has invaded paying £113M in tax, that amount would stop a couple of centres for disabled and old people from closing due to the cuts,