You say you are a "business man" with 2 (you edited it to 3, did you forget one?) degrees who's "been to" (whatever that means) "many" (however many that is) of these schools.

Justcash:


Imagine the cow of a dude called Namfav naming a jihard novelist as being influential. Worst of all is that he is a Hausa/fulani man whose wives are still locked up in harems and are meant to bear the consequences of the crimes of their men. Was it not in the north that a woman was almost stoned because a man made her pregnant. what happened to the man? Anuofia!

namfav:

none of those women pay your schoolfees, why are you acting like they have achieved for you are so low in worth that you are crying for someone mothers and sister, does their food make you shyt?  give them 50 years and no one will know them, that is the problem with igbos, you think you are so great but even in history there is not a single igbo woman who is worth mention

londoner:

"Namfav, you are actually agreeing with the article. His point was that historically Igbo women did not make this impact, but in a short space of time they have emerged.

These women he is mentioning in his article have ENSURED that as we go forward history will remember these numerous Igbo ladies who ARE worth a mention.

It may upset you that Igbo women are doing well, but it will not change the facts going forward.

Justcash:

[b]Yes, I'd agree if you said that In the past they were not worth mentioning.

1. We know that being the world bank's VP and a former minister of finance that salvaged Nigeria from its enormous debt profile cannot be forgotten.
2. We also know who comes to mind when NAFDAC is mentioned.
3. We know that the first ever athlete to win a Gold medal for Nigeria in the Olympic games can never be forgotten.
4. We also know that the first female Nigerian Security Exchange Commission  DG can never be forgotten.
I have not mentioned their names, but still, I bet you know them. Those Igbo ladies are more popular in Nigeria and internationally than any Hausa woman can ever be. They have contributed more to Nigeria, and have touched millions of lives than any hausa woman can ever do in the next 100 years. They don't just go around documenting Jihad wars, they added value to Nigeria's pride. Stop talking crap.

I just have a problem with you trying to shout down the idea that Igbo ladies are way ahead of their peers. You are not even arguing about Yoruba women being close to Igbo ladies. You are trying to equate them with Hausa women. Hausa women are inactive. Too over ridden by Hausa men. Can a Hausa man make a lady his deputy? No! Even if that happens, the woman would be dormant and scared to talk.  That is what I mean.You are definitely sad or angry about that. Go and jump into a kunu river and drown.
Those Igbo women don't need to give me money for me to be proud of them. I am proud of them. If there were hausa women like them, I'd be proud of them too. But, there are none! So what's your problem dude?! Love them or hate them, they are worth being very proud of. If you don't like it, go and do your duty, eat some grass. Ewu Hausa!


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namfav:

don't be mistaken, i am happy for them not at all upset but they are not the cream of the crop, igbo women are not out achieving any other womens, they are not now and never have

but you are free to believe that igbo women are the best in the continent

londoner:


Come on, it is quite obvious that you are not happy about there achievements being recognised at all. I would respect you more for admitting it actually.

No-one is saying that Igbo women are the only achieving women on the continent or in Nigeria, but judging on the list of recent achievers they do deserve the commendation being given, especially as they seem to have arisen in a relatively short space of time of 12 years, I think this is the main point of the article and observation.

To go from not being worth a mention as you put it to that formidable list in 12 years is an achievement IMO.

You may not agree, but is that because you have an issue with Igbo's or because you geneuinely dont see it?

Either way, the author of the article and countless many other people have made the same observation.

londoner:

Navfam, whether you want to smear the image of the Igbo woman with prostitution and drug smuggling, the list provided above and the positive impression confirmed by many of Igbo women achievers still stands.

To you, because the article does not focus on negatives of Igbo women, it is therefore flawed.

The article is very specific in subject matter and its assertion.

Trying to include a wider scope just in order to come out with a negative overall opinion of Igbo women is simply an attempt to make the observation of the OP irrelevant.

The reason you seek to have it neutralised is because you are uncomfortable with the positive stance of the opinion.

namfav:

i don't see how those 4 points impact us, they are worthless if you put them in a perspective, they are not example, if you take a igbo woman how has she impacted women the same way that the president of liberia or nana asama'u have? these women are used as examples unlike those jokes, and also they are not the first women to preside over anything, the advisor of the leader of the government is from the north do you think that has any impact if we speak of women in general in nigeria? i doubt it

igbo women are not ahead of anyone, never have and never will, you may think they are the best thing but you've also thought you will lead this nation, how many first ladies have been igbo? lol, im not proud of them because they don't pay my meal , you cant force us to be proud of people who will not exist in our memories  in 50 years time

Justcash:

[b] I aint forcing you, rather you are eating yourself up. Believe it or not, you will always remember them. No matter how you try to wish away their achievements, you will always remember them. The reason is that, they showed that women could do what men do!
What those women gave were the types of representation that Nigerian Women wish for. It is the same hard lines taken by Akunyili, Ezekwesili etc that even made Nigerians to believe that women were more hardened and capable than we thought. Their performances gave way for the appointment of a woman like Farida Waziri as the EFCC boss .  It is such representations that reinforces the belief of Nigerians in women.
there are  Nigerian women that can be categorized with the president of Liberia. They can only be found mostly among the Easterners and recently Westerners.  It is Women like Akunyili, Ezekwesili etc that has the guts to challenge men in Nigerian politics. Look at how the EFCC boss have become so dormant! Because she is threading with care. Can you see what pressure from men has done to her?
I am not saying that Igbo women are more SUPERIOR than other women (As your bigoted and tribalistic brain put it). I am saying that Igbo women are way ahead in terms of national influence, political contribution, radical attitude and fearlessness to compete in the field where women dread to go.
Even Chimamanda Adichie, with her little laurels is more Nationally recognized than your Asama'u. Na who sabi Asama'u? you seem to forget that the Ottoman empire's achievements and stories are now obsolete. Can you tell me how she added value to women? Maybe the same way Queen Amina added value right? My friend wake up! you must be sleeping.[/b]

namfav:

i don't see how those 4 points impact us, they are worthless if you put them in a perspective, they are not example, if you take a igbo woman how has she impacted women the same way that the president of liberia or nana asama'u have? these women are used as examples unlike those jokes, and also they are not the first women to preside over anything, the advisor of the leader of the government is from the north do you think that has any impact if we speak of women in general in nigeria? i doubt it

igbo women are not ahead of anyone, never have and never will, you may think they are the best thing but you've also thought you will lead this nation, how many first ladies have been igbo? lol, im not proud of them because they don't pay my meal , you cant force us to be proud of people who will not exist in our memories in 50 years time

Ileke-IdI:

I never aspired to please you.

Their posts were both rubbish. . . . as my previous posts suggested.

Obiagu1:

Quote from PhysicsMHD

@ PhysicMHD,
Shame on you! When you’re defeated in an argument, you go around attacking someone’s grammar to score a cheap point. There are few things some of you that grew up in the US or UK don’t know.

It’s hard to see a well educated Nigerian that grew up in Nigeria and had his/her first degree in Nigeria that speaks/writes impeccable English. The reason is because the foundation was poor; the English teachers weren’t good enough. That does not diminish someone’s IQ or intelligence or education or achievement. They will still travel abroad and excel in their field of study with their “poor English”. Bring Math, Physic etc, they will beat you hands down, so what were you trying to achieve?

If everyone should be flawless in English to underscore their intelligence, education, IQ, smartness, I wonder why there are proofreaders.

You claimed to have an IQ of 140 or there about but you did not know the meaning of compromise So why where you attacking someone because of few errors here or there and try to diminish his/her status? If others tell you their own IQ, all you’ll end up doing is find where they made one or two mistakes and attack them as if IQ is equivalent to English.

Moreover, this is a forum and not a committee that scrutinizes posters’ English.

I’ll say you and your likes should go screw yourselves!

EzeUche:

I could not have said that better myself. The young man walks around thinking he has a superior intellect, because he can copy and paste sources on the internet better than most, but that does not show his true intelligence. Thank you for shedding light on his behavior.

I can see that I am not the only one who has noticed that from his post.

tpiah!:

he thinks he has a superior intellect because he was told he has a superior intellect.

however, he never stopped to ask himself if the actual facts on ground show him as possessing a superior intellect.

namfav:

well, if you haven't noticed nana asama'u was in fact the most influential woman to emerge out of the 19th century in west africa by a great mile, so it is by all means accurate to mention her name, women like ezekwesili  have nothing on her, not today nor tomorrow, and anyway where does the national influence, political contribution, radical attitude and fearlessness come from? where was it 100 years ago and what did it achieve? just name me 1 igbo woman who is influential, who is refered in many quarters, i beg you to come up with 1 igbo woman who is as influential as nana asama'u, your logic is like comparing george bush to musa, haha comparing chimanada and her sad biafra story to nana, hahahaha, dude, you need a history lesson better just get your facts right, when we talk about women in islam and west africa in general in a historical perspective you can look no further than nana asama'u, you may not know her but that is because you are ignorant, on every islamic forum or community of muslims which has topics on females in muslim society you will most probably hear her name, you hear pakistanis, indonesians talking about her, what about your ezekwesili of this world hehe apart from when igbo men are beating their chests

Onlytruth:

I hope other Nigerians observe the thinking style of namfav and relate it with Nigeria's failed leadership since after the war.
We are talking about women who have influenced the nation's development in the late 20th and earlier 21st century, and a supposed young northern Nigerian is busy trying to shove down a 19th century jihadist author down our collective throats.  
And if we dare to hesitate to accept his own pick, he then mocks the achievements of great Nigerian women who actually achieved things that impacted him socio-economically and politically.  

Pray, wouldn't such a character do his darnedest to thwart any rising Nigerian female star?
Do we stand a chance of having a Nigerian female president when we have characters in northern Nigeria still fixated on 19th century? Of course not.

Wonder why some of us are apprehensive about a Buhari presidency. Buhari rejected a woman FAR MORE COMPETENT than himself as a VP candidate. If anyone still don't understand why, read and follow namfagv on nairaland.  

Justcash:

[b]You still have not told me how Asama'u helped womanhood or influenced Nigeria and the world. You are yet to tell me how she contributed to the wellbeing of Nigeria and Nigerians. Nigeria is also made up of christians o!
I can confidently tell you that an Igbo daughter called Dora Akunyili saved lots of Nigerian lives (Christians and Muslims) through her persistent fight against fake drugs.
I can also tell you that Chioma Ajunwa made every Nigerian proud, irrespective of religious background and ethnic affiliation, by winning Nigeria's first ever gold in the Olympics.
I can tell you that Oby Ezekwesili influences World bank's actions that has notable financial impact on Nigeria, Africa and the world.
I can tell you that when Okereke-Onyiuke was in the SEC, if she coughs, the Nigerian Financial sector shakes. i guess you know the impact that SEC has on Nigeria's attractiveness to foreign investors. Even Dangote found it difficult to stand her.
I can also tell you that Chimamanda Adichie used her influence to create a positive image for Nigeria by exhibiting the beauty of Nigeria to the world (you are here calling her a loser).
Ok, please outline how your Asama'u made an impact on the lives of Nigerians? I hope you know that Nigeria is not Ottoman's empire, because I don't know what you were taught in your Almajiri School.
It is people like you that makes me wonder how I ended up being a Nigerian. You would have been rearing cows and strapping bombs if you weren't fortunate enough to have Igbos and Southern Nigerians around you.
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namfav:

speak for yourself, i don't know a single person who was saved by dora akunyili, i don't care about ajunwa she has not impacted my life, ezekwesili has not impacted my life, onyuike does not impact our lives there are many people that will take an honour to take that position, chimandanda and her biafra book has no impact on us, it's probably stuff that white people will like but it's not a book i will read, i am 100% certain you don't even have that book nor do most igbos

that is where you get lazy, try reading what nana has contributed to the world instead of asking me question, there are many books written (by people from outside) on this great woman, how she has not impacted the world (muslim world) is the question, when we talk about gender in recent history her name is one of those that comes up,  you're pathetic

fstranger3:


Obviously, he has no rival on NL, at least, you, Ezeuche, arent any where close to him. As a matter of fact, you are not fit to iron his shirt. BTW, I dont see him walking around like he has superior intellect. And if you think he has superior intellect, it is because he oozes superior intellect, not because he talks about it.

He obviously doesnt go around acting like he knows everything. he argues with fact and sense, and any one can do that.
He is not a loud mouth like you Ibos.

He wasnt the one who boasted about attending an Ivy League neither did he boast about his group being superior to others.

there is no way you can convince me that a 19th century Islamic author is more relevant to Nigeria than a 21st century technocrat who shaved billions off Nigeria's debt.