Iegendhero:


Who need you guys in the first place?

NOONE.. very inconsequential lots. Do they even have PVC??

In 2023, SW, NW, NE, Middle belt and parts of SS will vote en masse for a South West candidate and God willing the South will produce next president of Nigeria

ThumbzTNA:
Instead of power to go to South West, let it remain in the North. Yoruba should know they are not the only region in the South

You will cry tire. We have beaten you to it severally, we will beat you to it again.

tamdun:

Remember when we voted for Jonathan back in 2011? What did the rest of the south do when Jonathan marginalised sw? Nothing, u people should have warned him not to changewinning formula but u were too busy...

Too busy with "Igbo are the pillars of my govt" with 5% votes,do they have the numbers ? I beg bring your first 11 to both parties primaries,let the best man win, enough of blackmail.

PROUDIGBO:


Why do you sneakily try to limit the south-easts presidential ambitions to just PDP? Aren’t there Igbos in your APC that you can push forward if you have any sense of fairness and justice?

Southern solidarity my black ass!

Your region hates APC with passion,once both candidates are from your region,u will vote PDP, everybody knows your game plan,APC is not that foolish.

fergie001:

You are stuck on SE gang-up and Atiku as if Atiku got all his votes from one region....but the SW voted more for that same person.

That's the point.

Your Ohaneze leader came up with the gang up issue and not me. My point is very clear, nobody is ganging up against the Igbos. If the SE want the presidency, they should go for it and stop accusing others of gang up.

It is highly immoral and unfair for Igbos to be pushing for Atiku presidency while accusing others of gang up against them at the same time. They should choose one.

loopman:
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According to this man, Nigeria was built on a tripod, so where does Jonathan falls on this tripod ?

As far as we know, Jonathan already used the period of the East

U are bad man,that's below the belt, Jonathan is Ebele from East. EOD

seunmsg:


Your Ohaneze leader came up with the gang up issue and not me. My point is very clear, nobody is ganging up against the Igbos. If tge SE want the presidency, they should go for it and stop accusing others of gang up.

It is highly immoral and unfair for Igbos to be pushing for Atiku presidency while accusing others of gang up against them at the same time. They should choose one.

That is OK....

@ least we have established the SW accrued more votes for him than the "gang-up people."

SuperBold:
Nobody is ganging up on igbo presidency, it is the igbos that are ganging up on other people presidency.

They can't milk a cow but can throway the milk of others

I dare you to tell this lie to God



Imagine hurt feelings on nairaland clouding truth..smh

Letthrmsay:




U are bad man,that's below the belt, Jonathan is Ebele from East. EOD

Just following simple logic of his analogy of a tripod

fergie001:

That is OK....

@ least we have established the SW accrued more votes for him than the "gang-up people."

Which party won the SW on vote difference? APC right?

So how can you compare two things that are incomparable bro?

Are the general vote count for SE and SW thesame?

This your analogy is comparing two things that are not relatable statistically wise.

.

PROUDIGBO:


Why do you sneakily try to limit the south-easts presidential ambitions to just PDP? Aren’t there Igbos in your APC that you can push forward if you have any sense of fairness and justice?

Southern solidarity my black ass!

How many Igbos will vote for an igbo candidate of APC if PDP presents another Igbo man

Will you vote for an APC igbo candidate?

Have the fear of God when writing

flokii:
The same people boasting during GEJ's tenure are the same ones crying foul today.. truly, nothing lasts forever.

The only reason they hate PMB is cos they weren't able to penetrate and take over his government like they did to Goodluck. They always hate what they can't have or possess.

You capture it so well, once they are not major shareholders in a project they must destroy it and bring it down

reality1010:

Sabotage Igbo presidency and increase the tempo for Igbo soveriengty, that is the agenda. Try get sense small. Igbo presidency will kill the Biafra dream and it is not the best because Igbos v alot to gain if they stay as a nation unlike the Yorubas that survive on govt proceeds and opportunities.

Better for u,y not Biafra straight instead your blackmail? Recall all your legislators and declare Biafra,you think all your elites that are looting with other regions care abt that elusive Biafra and of recent Oduduwa,we should wake up and smell the coffee,elites are the problems of the useless contraption called Nigeria

Iegendhero:


Which party won the SW on vote difference? APC right?

So how can you compare two things that are incomparable bro?

Are the vote count for SE and SW thesame?

This your analogy is comparing two things that are not relatable statistically wise.

The writer said there is a gang-up against the Igbos
The guy I quoted said...there is no gang-up, that infact the Igbos are ganging-up against other parts of the South.

My analogy is simple:

He explained like one region is responsible for all the votes the man earned. How are we sure, IF #ProjectAtiku comes again..the SW won't vote him overwhelmingly.

fergie001:

The writer said there is a gang-up against the Igbos
The guy I quoted said...there is no gang-up, that infact the Igbos are ganging-up against other parts of the South.

My analogy is simple:

He explained like one region is responsible for all the votes the man earned. How are we sure, IF #ProjectAtiku comes again..the SW won't vote him overwhelmingly.

Context is very important to fully understand the import of a text, if you contextualize his stance, the import becomes clearer. SE can't be seeing championing Atiku's presidency in one hand while complaining of gang up on the other hand. It stands logic on its head. Like he said, they should stick to one.

seunmsg:
Actually, Igbos are the ones ganging up against the rest of the south. They are the ones pushing for Atiku to continue with northern rule. They are the dominant group in PDP and still, they have no plan to field an Igbo candidate to contest for the ticket of the party.

If you want the presidency, put up a candidate and contest for it with other southern zones in 2023. South west leaders are making effort in APC. Start making serious effort in PDP.

They're not doing so because they haven't told you on nairaland abi

I know some people consider anonymous posters to be appointed spokesperson


"Southern zones"
Obasanjo
Jonathan
??

Which southern zone is missing?

Did the igbos fight the above or lend their votes?

My bad I forgot we're pretending n posting with amnesia.


I wish some of you will just say it with your chest "you don't want an igbo president" N stop beating around the bush N hiding behind semantics

fergie001:

The writer said there is a gang-up against the Igbos
The guy I quoted said...there is no gang-up, that infact the Igbos are ganging-up against other parts of the South.

My analogy is simple:

He explained like one region is responsible for all the votes the man earned. How are we sure, IF #ProjectAtiku comes again..the SW won't vote him overwhelmingly.

Alright got you.

But I can tell you Atiku will NEVER get any overwhelming vote against a Tinubu or Osinbajo in the SW.

Also, Atiku got that vote in the West in the first place because of Buhari performance which most people are tired of.

However do you know same cannot be said of the SE’ners? In as much as a PDP man (whether Fulani or Kanuri) is on the ballot, the SE’ners will vote him overwhelmingly over any other Igbo candidate. They did it against Ojukwu so no need to deny it.

Ohaneze here might have their own point but it’s directed at the wrong audience. They should rather threaten the PDP to give them the slot and not necessarily threaten Nigeria or some supposedly people marginalizing them.

Liposure:
As it stands, it would be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for an ibo man to become president.

Funny thing, your landlord made similar statement about you being timely with your rent

Nexus25:


Context is very important to fully understand the import of a text, if you contextualize his stance, the import becomes clearer. SE can't be seeing championing Atiku's presidency in one hand while complaining of gang up on the other hand. It stands logic on its head. Like he said, they should stick to one.

Mr. Nexus, right?
There are SE members in the APC who will also champion that the Presidency comes to them. They are defecting in droves for the same reason.

Out of 5, the APC has 2 states. Hence, someone screaming for a gang-up is likely a member of the opposition who is doing what the opposition does.

I am not aware of a meeting where Atiku or a Northerner was heralded as the Candidate of the PDP or has the APC zoned theirs, if yes, to where?

Nonetheless, I don't know where the Igbos have any hierarchy wrt the dominant parties.

Which of them have a SEner as National Chair or so.... They are complaining the same way the SWners complained in 2014 before taking their decision or is there no SWner in the PDP?

loopman:
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According to this man, Nigeria was built on a tripod, so where does Jonathan falls on this tripod ?

As far as we know, Jonathan already used the period of the East

This is okay for nairaland
But can you repeat this lie to God?
Just asking oo

Ikinternational:



They're not doing so because they haven't told you on nairaland abi

I know some people consider anonymous posters to be appointed spokesperson


"Southern zones"
Obasanjo
Jonathan
??

Which southern zone is missing?

Did the igbos fight the above or lend their votes?

My bad I forgot we're pretending n posting with amnesia.


I wish some of you will just say it with your chest "you don't want an igbo president" N stop beating around the bush N hiding behind semantics

According to Ohameze, Nigeria is standing on a tripod, the North, West and East.

The obj you mentioned was of Western extraction, Jonathan from Eastern extraction of the tripod and Buhari from the North.

In the spirit of fairness and equity, the next President should be from the West...

Obj.......West
Yardua...North
GEJ......East
Buhari....North.

The next President?

Iegendhero:


Alright got you.

But I can tell you Atiku will NEVER get any overwhelming vote against a Tinubu or Osinbajo in the SW.

Also, Atiku got that vote in the West in the first place because of Buhari performance which most people are tired of.

However do you know same cannot be said of the SE’ners? In as much as a PDP man (whether Fulani or Kanuri) is on the ballot, the SE’ners will vote him overwhelmingly over any other Igbo candidate. They did it against Ojukwu so no need to deny it.

Ohaneze here might have their own point but it’s directed at the wrong audience. They should rather threaten the PDP to give them the slot and not necessarily threaten Nigeria or some supposedly people marginalizing them.

Mind you, this is a former member of Ohanaeze...How many young people or voters know whether there is an Ohanaeze?

How many of their EXCOs do we even know? It is just an Organisation seen as Elders' Forum, to be frank.

Who are the people that did it to Ojukwu? That was a South v South encounter..and they went for OBJ..were they wrong, especially as APGA was a growing party at the time.

The Igbos don't hold any proper position in the political parties involved. The SS even vote overwhelmingly for the PDP more than the SE, but why is the stressing on the SE. Was Jonathan from the SE?

You are blaming the SE...but here we have Uzodinma, who left the PDP. We have Umahi that recently defected. 2 out of 5.

In the SS....all complete on the PDP..No comments from anyone.

The whipping boys must be the SE, but originally who should the APC be scared of...the SE or the SS?

Does the APC not have members in the SE?

People want an alternative but where is it?

Politicians are Politicians....It has nothing to do with the region.

kayusely70:
Yes they were busy cornering all the juicy and key positions and expected us to support him again.

Those people no serious

flokii:
The same people boasting during GEJ's tenure are the same ones crying foul today.. truly, nothing lasts forever.

The only reason they hate PMB is cos they weren't able to penetrate and take over his government like they did to Goodluck. They always hate what they can't have or possess.

I swear na them make Jonathan lose 2nd term

Ikinternational:


This is okay for nairaland
But can you repeat this lie to God?
Just asking oo

I quoted your man and indeed Nigeria stands on a tripod..North West and East

Jonathan- East
Buhari - North
- West (2023-2031)

ThumbzTNA:
Instead of power to go to South West, let it remain in the North. Yoruba should know they are not the only region in the South

Really?

Letthrmsay:



Too busy with "Igbo are the pillars of my govt" with 5% votes,do they have the numbers ? I beg bring your first 11 to both parties primaries,let the best man win, enough of blackmail.

U get good memory

fergie001:

Mr. Nexus, right?
There are SE members in the APC who will also champion that the Presidency comes to them. They are defecting in droves for the same reason.

Out of 5, the APC has 2 states. Hence, someone screaming for a gang-up is likely a member of the opposition who is doing what the opposition does.

I am not aware of a meeting where Atiku or a Northerner was heralded as the Candidate of the PDP or has the APC zoned theirs, if yes, to where?

Nonetheless, I don't know where the Igbos have any hierarchy wrt the dominant parties.

Which of them have a SEner as National Chair or so.... They are complaining the same way the SWners complained in 2014 before taking their decision or is there no SWner in the PDP?

The bolded is what is needed of a group in dare need of a very competitive position in a pluralistic country like Nigeria. Nobody will hand it over to them on a platter and as such they should show willingness and readiness to pursue their aspiration to any length.

Not this their lukewarm attitude of wanting something but too scared to pursue it but instead elect to engage in petty talks and illogical innuendos.

Point of correction, SW didn't complain of ethnic gang up, they were only dissatisfied with the administration of Jonathan and they showed in their action they wanted Jonathan to go. If SE wants power, they should show seriousness.

Nexus25:


According to Ohameze, Nigeria is standing on a tripod, the North, West and East.

The obj you mentioned was of Western extraction, Jonathan from Eastern extraction of the tripod and Buhari from the North.

In the spirit of fairness and equity, the next President should be from the West...

Obj.......West
Yardua...North
GEJ......East
Buhari....North.

The next President?

simple arithmetic

Nexus25:
The bolded is what is needed of a group in dare need of a very competitive position in a pluralistic country like Nigeria. Nobody will hand it over to them on a platter and as such they should show willingness and readiness to pursue their aspiration to any length.

Not this their lukewarm attitude of wanting something but too scared to pursue it but instead elect to engage in petty talks and illogical innuendos.

I don't know where you get the word "scared" from?
In a region of 5, you have 2 sitting Governors. You had 1 in 2015.
In 2015....You had no Senator......
In 2019,....You have 2+ Senators

In that same party.....You have several ex-Governors, former Army Chief, et al...and you say scared?

You should already know scared and the Igbos don't go in the same sentence.

There is no lukewarm attitude. Even the SW didn't put all their eggs in the same basket in 2019.
PDP - 1776670
APC - 2036450

The SW voted for Buhari with just a 53% margin.....Were you not lukewarm considering you needed to crush your opponent in that region, knowing that the sitting VP (who lost his PU) is from that region?

Was it not the same reason the Kano Gov's aide was also threatening the APC SW chapter?

If there is any region since 2019 that has made the biggest statement in the APC ....It is the SE. They are just simply adapting by throwing their eggs around.

Point of correction, SW didn't complain of ethnic gang up, they were only dissatisfied with the administration of Jonathan and showed in their action they wanted Jonathan to go. If SE wants power, they should show seriousness.

I can see how satisfied they are with this administration.

Well, you know you aren't telling yourself the truth. The SW angst with Jonathan was that they were marginalised in the Jonathan administration, like they didn't belong...I don't know where you got ethnic gang-up from or is that what you have been made to believe all these years?

I never inclined towards an ethnic gang-up hence, there is no correction to be made.

fergie001:

Mind you, this is a former member of Ohanaeze...How many young people or voters know whether there is an Ohanaeze?

How many of their EXCOs do we even know? It is just an Organisation seen as Elders' Forum, to be frank.

Who are the people that did it to Ojukwu? That was a South v South encounter..and they went for OBJ..were they wrong, especially as APGA was a growing party at the time.

The Igbos don't hold any proper position in the political parties involved. The SS even vote overwhelmingly for the PDP more than the SE, but why is the stressing on the SE. Was Jonathan from the SE?

You are blaming the SE...but here we have Uzodinma, who left the PDP. We have Umahi that recently defected. 2 out of 5.

In the SS....all complete on the PDP..No comments from anyone.

The whipping boys must be the SE, but originally who should the APC be scared of...the SE or the SS?

Does the APC not have members in the SE?

People want an alternative but where is it?

Politicians are Politicians....It has nothing to do with the region.

The stressing is on the SE because they are the one that took this issue of PDP and Jonathan defeat too serious that they tend to become the scapegoat when trying to throw banters.

Even the Ijaws who lost their son chance are not this vocal about PDP like the Igbo. For far too long, the Igbo have played the poster boy for PDP while the big boys controlling the party who are obviously not Igbos are scheming underground while using the Igbos as the mouthpiece to take the fall.

Like you said, the author of this post might not be the true Ohaneze voice but I’m pretty sure he re-echoes their sentiments which is the same sentiments most Igbos push.

And yes, the SS produce more votes for the PDP than the SE like you rightly said.